The Pod Bay

TildalWave

00:02

There's only one Tigger on SE, and that's quite enough :P

mind, there might be more, but I don't wanna hear about it, I shiver just at the thought of it LOL

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave :-)

duzzy

04:14

I'm not really a Reddit person, but apparently Scott Kelly will be doing an AMA tomorrow.

kim holder

18:27

Check check one two three

Anybody just hanging out?

duzzy

>_>

kim holder

Guess what happened once I had windows all loaded and set up

duzzy

Lost control of mouse/keyboard?

kim holder

It said my graphics card wasn't good enough to run the program

duzzy

Oh nooooo!

That's pretty annoying.

kim holder

18:31

and there was a bit of privacy involved wihigh i'm now trying to fix

But if there is such a thing it was legitimate piracy

i didn't want to use my legal copy of win 8

duzzy

I don't blame you.

kim holder

so i useda pirate 7

duzzy

The only people who actually want to use Windows 8 probably created it... and I bet they say things like "it's not that bad"

Windows 7 is much better.

kim holder

and it took me most of yesterday to realize the persistent problems with the usb and pci bus weree because of the pirate hack

duzzy

You can't really trust those.

kim holder

18:39

no
but they are extrenely common here

so i wiped everything and tried to install my legal win 8 this morning

duzzy

Ohhh nooooo!

kim holder

and it tells me the product key isn't legit

so i called microsoft, twice

duzzy

That's weird.

kim holder

and they say (in spanish first and then in english), sure it's legit, that key is absolutely legal

and i say, my machine is telling me it isn't

duzzy

and they said "your machine is a liar!"

kim holder

18:43

and of course i've typed it in like 8 times

duzzy

If it was Apple, they'd probably just tell you that you were holding it wrong.

(Sorry for all of these dumb comments. I haven't been outside yet today)

kim holder

so they said download a new iso

oh, the dumb comments are just what ii was hhoping for

duzzy

:P

What happened with the new image?

kim holder

it has been stuck at 1% for the last 15 minutes

duzzy

How is it downloading?

kim holder

18:46

i booted up my husband's crappy machine, which is connected by ethernet right now because his wifi stopped working 3 days ago, and it's downloading it

and i am considering the possibility his wifi stopped working because of a problem with lockout due to duplicate addresses that i had to fix on my machine at some point

known problem with windows ubuntu dual boot

of course my graphics card is a gtx 960 that cost me $300 a few months ago

duzzy

Well, a wired connection will usually be faster than a wireless connection.

where did you go to download the win8 image?

kim holder

it is still at 1%

windows themselves, the tech support guy gave the link

duzzy

Okay.

How is the wireless connection failing?

kim holder

though i am twitchy that that isn't even the problem.

duzzy

Is the interface still enabled?

It may not be. Where did you get the previous win8 image?

kim holder

18:51

which one

duzzy

the wireless interface that is causing difficulty.

What I'm wondering is if it might be trying to make a connection and take control, and if it does that but doesn't have a good connection, your activity may stop. If it's giving you trouble and you're just using a wired connection anyway, try disabling the wireless interface.

kim holder

oh, no. i got that working, though i didn't try seeing what happens if i unplug the cable from hubby's machine

duzzy

Ah, okay.

It's sitting at 1%, but is it telling you how much of the file is downloaded?

kim holder

he was using it fine that way last night

gotta be. says downloading file, 1% complete

duzzy

but does it say, for instance, 217 MB / 942 GB complete?

kim holder

18:55

no. windows gives info on a need -to-know basis

it says please wait

942 gb, hehehe, i like that

duzzy

:P

Gah... Microsoft.

Where did you get the previous windows 8 image from?

The one that isn't accepting the key.

kim holder

download too, direct from the microsoft store

duzzy

Hm. Maybe it wasn't the correct version?

kim holder

how incorrect can it be? it had that deep purple background, i think it said win 8 on the splash screen

it ain't 7, and it ain't 10.

duzzy

Right, but I mean if your license is for a "home" version or something, and the image is for a "professional" version, it might not work.

kim holder

19:01

not that i remember, but i am pretty sure i only downloaded it once, when i bought it

but it would be nice if the problem were that simple

duzzy

Oh, so you've used that image before?

kim holder

and it was a long time ago

yes, and i asked them if it was not transferrable

but they said i can use it, no problem

i asked specifically about that

duzzy

It kind of seems like your computer is intentionally trying to annoy you.

kim holder

doesn't it though

the download is still at 1%

duzzy

Hmm... if it was me, I'd probably try to start over. Worst case, you lose 20 minutes.

kim holder

19:05

ah, i'm ahead of you

i did that once already

last time it managed to get to 5%

duzzy

Hm.

kim holder

i could of course try again. but you can see why i'm nervous,

duzzy

Yeah, if you try again you may end up only getting 0.2%

kim holder

it's like the reverse of the race where each stride is half the length of the stride before

maybe i'll boot into the ubuntu live cd and try downloading it on my machine as well

duzzy

That may work better.

Can't hurt to give it a shot.

kim holder

19:13

the hd is blank right now, wonder if that will make a difference

duzzy

As long as it has a partition where the file can be stored, that is capable of saving a file that large.

How large is the image file?

kim holder

i wiped it with the pirate win 7 disk to see if the existing pirate7 files were what was making win8 install disk reject the product key. and also because the gparted utility wasn't working for that, same issue as before

shot in the dark

i think it's 3.5 gb

duzzy

It'll probably be okay.

the file size is fine, as long as it's under 4gb.

kim holder

hm, internet definitely slow

duzzy

regardless of the partition table.

well, if you're downloading a huge file, that will have an impact.

kim holder

19:21

no, i mean it has been spending 30 seconds now just trying to load the web page for the download

duzzy

Are you still downloading on the other computer?

kim holder

this happens to us sometimes

duzzy

Ah, well that could be your problem. :P

kim holder

yes, and it looks like i'm better off not giving our connection even more stuff to do

TildalWave

so I should wait with that 200 MB gif I wanted to post here? :))

duzzy

19:23

:P

kim holder

guess this is the day i do some reading

@TildalWave you can post it for duzzy and then you can describe it to me in words :P

duzzy

It's like radio! Except... you look at it.

Back before TV was invented, I remember we used to sit around and stare at the radio... and back before that, we used to go to the center of the village and listen to the bards.

TildalWave

you remember

duzzy

Of course!

TildalWave

and tablets were made of clay?

solid state memory LOL

duzzy

19:34

The fancy ones were.

lol

TildalWave

reminds me of that archeology joke

dunno how it goes exactly but I can try ...

duzzy

Go for it!

kim holder

yes do

i shut off hubby's machine and will try again later

TildalWave

so archeologists were digging in England and they found a layer rich in copper ... they concluded that their ancestors must have been using coaxial data cables for broadband

archeologists in France discovered a layer rich in silica glass so they concluded their ancestors were using optical broadband networks

archeologists in Russia were digging, and digging, and they didn't discover anything, so they concluded their ancestors must have been using wireless

kim holder

so what's the punchline?

duzzy

19:41

lol

kim holder

:D

TildalWave

that's it

duzzy

that's awesome.

kim holder

ya, hard-time-giving aside - those archeology jokes.

what cards they are.

duzzy

Archaeology seems like a lot of fun.

kim holder

19:57

it does? spening hours on your hands and knees brushing away with extreme care at a tiny patch of ground under the hot sun?

duzzy

It can happen in places other than the desert.

kim holder

yes, you might have some cloud cover. that makes it all better. :P

duzzy

I think there's more to it than just digging (although, that part seems interesting and fun). It's about understanding people from the past based on what they left behind. It's history. I think that's interesting.

kim holder

that part is indeed interesting. but the time it takes to get to that part i understand involves an awful lot of the above,

duzzy

Yeah, and that also sounds like fun to me. :P

kim holder

20:08

well, you're one of those patient people who can actually handle a tech support job :]

duzzy

tech support jobs suck. :P

kim holder

yeah but you survived one without killing anybody, isn't that so?

duzzy

As far as I know, everyone survived.

kim holder

ah, so some of them DID kill people :D

duzzy

Sometimes people would disappear, and we never found out why.

kim holder

20:24

ok, now i'm trying again to download win8 using firefox through the ububntu live cd

and doing it this way, you don't get the handy 'download tool' that i'd gotten on hubby's win 7 machine

so it tells me the download progress firefox style, amount and time remaining

which says 347 kb of 4.0 gb, 3 days, 14 h remaining

and has said that same thing without progress as i typed it out

beyond whining, point being, it never asked me where to put it

hm... when i right click on computer and go to properties, it shows 8.3 gb free, 60 mb used

duzzy

I wonder if it might be trying to save it on the cd. :P

You should be able to tell it where to save downloaded files in the settings.

kim holder

yep, it let me tell it to put it on the external disk that's plugged in

had to restart though. now it has downloaded 64.4 kb and there is 271 days remaining 8D

duzzy

Every time you start over, it's worse than what it was before.

kim holder

well, i suppose it is better to leave it open on my machine this way, so it starts downloading normally whenever the connection perks up, and that way i'm not using aldo's machine.

duzzy

20:40

Is it just kind of a normal accepted thing that sometimes the internet just does that?

kim holder

i wonder if microsoft is being ddosed or something. it hasn't gotten even a kb more yet

it occasionally happens. the electricity occasionally goes out, sometimes the roads into town are blocked for a whole day because of a stupid and illegal protest, sometimes there is no tea in the grocery store.

duzzy

Sounds like some post-apoc movie or something.

kim holder

oh, did you see the documentary i linked to a while ago on my home state?

let's see, what was that called...

ah yes Cartel Land

i'd post a link but my connection is too slow :P

duzzy

I didn't.

I'm on its IMDB page

A doctor vs a drug cartel?

kim holder

we haven't either, actually. aldo thought it would be too emotional for him

duzzy

20:49

I can understand that.

kim holder

yes, small town doctor from the area. he is now in jail and his health has gone sharply downhill.

there are rumors he is being denied proper medical attention

duzzy

I just watched the trailer. It looks like it would hold my attention.

kim holder

21:14

sure holds our attention :D

duzzy

I can imagine. It would be something to keep an eye on.

kim holder

aldo has a construction company that has been increadingly successful. he keeps a careful eye on it indeed.

duzzy

21:38

Is he worried about something happening to it?

kim holder

22:02

he does government contracts almost exclusively. many small governments in this state are mixed up intimately with the cartels. he has had to pay protection money. he has had to compete for contracts with cartel-backed companies.

btw, now downloading quite well, 42 minutes remaining :)

PearsonArtPhoto

23:23

Finally, a Planet 9 question that's on topic here!

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Q: Are any spacecraft heading remotely where Planet 9 is expected to be?

Planet 9, the hypothetical planet predicted Batygin and Brown, is expected to have an apoasis near the galactic center. Is there a spacecraft that is heading in that direction? Specifically, they state: perihelion position is straight overhead in late May. ... aphelion (the furthest point fro...

kim holder

23:39

@PearsonArtPhoto heh, though i expect the answer has to be a resounding no.

someone will have a little fun figuring out where the pioneers, voyagers, and new horizons will be over the next few decades

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