The Pod Bay

Undo the Snowman

00:06

Chris went away ;(. I only lost 16.

I was bracing myself for -200 or -300

TildalWave

00:45

Hmmm yes looks like only accepts and perhaps some other rep changes are reverted, either that or the normal votes are still left to be recalculated. Honestly, I haven't a clue :O

Undo the Snowman

Oh, yeah. Let's see what happens if I trigger a rep recalc...

accepts shouldn't be reverted, though.

TildalWave

looks like they were

Undo the Snowman

Recalc didn't do anything.

TildalWave

I checked one of my answers that I know CHris accepted and it's now without an accept ... kinda makes sense, if there's no user to accept it

Undo the Snowman

Then how'd I manage -16?

TildalWave

00:47

@UndotheSnowman No I didn't expect it would, these things are likely manual.

@UndotheSnowman 8 answers of yours that Chris accepted

Undo the Snowman

Then that should be... way more than -16.

accept = +15.

TildalWave

@UndotheSnowman hmmm no wait... I got confused of course, what I meant is those +2 that you accepted an answer by him

Undo the Snowman

Hmm...

TildalWave

Oh I don't know

irrelevant, I would rather Chris is here

Undo the Snowman

Yeah.

But it's his decision.

TildalWave

00:50

well it's mine to miss him around here

Undo the Snowman

;)

TildalWave

who's gonna answer my space debris and odd orbits questions now?

neah, actually that's not fair, we do have folks that are perfectly capable of answering them ... we'll just have to kick them more often to move their butts and write something

Undo the Snowman

;(

TildalWave

what's that?

Undo the Snowman

@TildalWave User graph.

That's better.

But still sad.

TildalWave

00:55

@UndotheSnowman you should probably add some filter to unanswered questions, it's kinda unfair that they're there if they're only a few hours old

Undo the Snowman

@TildalWave Can't, that's how the system hands them to me.

I don't have any kind of info about the unanswered questions themselves.

TildalWave

@UndotheSnowman can't you subtract by the number of new questions?

Undo the Snowman

Hmmm....

Sounds like effort. But I'll try it.

TildalWave

sound suspiciously like effort ;)

"Sound like" is out of fashion, and the "Sounds suspiciously like" is obviously on the rise, which is proven here: books.google.com/ngrams/…

:)

Or even better: books.google.com/ngrams/…

to prove that you have to combine them if you wanna be hip

which I might not be because I just used "hip"

Undo the Snowman

Aaargh:

This might take a while.

Hmm.

TildalWave

01:04

huh?

of what?

Undo the Snowman

Making an initial backup. Over the network.

@DavidFreitag there's something wrong with your script.

TildalWave

Oh yes ... I forked out for proper Intel NICs for that, makes a huge difference

David Freitag

@UndotheSnowman hahahah, that happens to me sometimes... I'm not sure why.

Undo the Snowman

There's five now.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag what's it supposed to be?

David Freitag

01:06

Just mash F5 and they will go away

@TildalWave That's the MathJax extension

Undo the Snowman

@DavidFreitag Didn't work. All that happened was my keyboard backlight got turned down ;P

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag Oh you init before you destroy don't you?

David Freitag

@UndotheSnowman Sounds like you need to mash FN+F5

TildalWave

You're likely Swiss

Undo the Snowman

@DavidFreitag Cmd - R ;)

David Freitag

01:07

@TildalWave Nah, the extension only injects the javascript into the page

Undo the Snowman

I'd actually like to see how many of those things I can get.

No idea what triggers it.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag yes, but it's an extension, it lives outside the window

Undo the Snowman

Someone ping me.

David Freitag

@TildalWave No, it lives within the chat window.

@UndotheSnowman moo

TildalWave

@undothesnowman PING!! (that's the strongest one)

Undo the Snowman

01:08

Hmm, that's not it.

Still only five of 'em.

TildalWave

should shake your browser pretty good

David Freitag

It has to do with having multiple chat windows open simultaineously

Undo the Snowman

@DavidFreitag Not in this case.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag yes, like I said, you initialize before you check if the object already exists

David Freitag

Perhaps it has something to do with returning from sleep / hibernate

Undo the Snowman

01:10

Ah. @DavidFreitag every time I press the upload image button it adds one.

David Freitag

@UndotheSnowman Can't replicate that..

Undo the Snowman

upload... > upload. Don't even need an image.

TildalWave

hehehe new "window" with a chat handle

Undo the Snowman

David Freitag

@UndotheSnowman aha, it works. heh it's kinda funny

Undo the Snowman

01:11

David Freitag

I suppose i could check for my button class before adding it, that would fix the issue.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag make sure you're not reinitializing all of it, otherwise it's a proper memory hog

David Freitag

@TildalWave There's no initialization, all that happens is that the MathJax file gets added to the head and the button gets displayed

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag Ah OK then you should be fine

David Freitag

Actually, i don't have to add anything, just move a bit.

David Freitag

01:29

Well, that's freaking weird.

Hmm, must've been a neutrino.

Either way, @UndotheSnowman, your extension should update automagically to version 1.2 just as soon as Google's minions are done scanning it.

Undo the Snowman

They don't think you would try to do evil, do they?

David Freitag

If you can't wait, or you prefer non-play based extensions, the packaged crx file is in the github: github.com/dvdfreitag/SE-Chat-MathJax

Just don't have both versions enabled, I'm not sure they will play well together...

David Freitag

01:43

On average 35.1 people per day use use my extension. Or, at least, they have it enabled when they load a chat page. Oh, and a maximum of 57 users ever on 11/14.

TildalWave

01:57

@DavidFreitag yes yes a type Ia supernova no less

David Freitag

@TildalWave Heh, i meant it must've been a neutrino having an adverse affect on my computer

TildalWave

OK which one you like more: meta.astronomy.stackexchange.com/a/177/13

Just curious, I know which one is better

David Freitag

The first one i'd say. But there are elements of the second one that should be incorporated into the first one to make it better.

The second one doesn't quite look right, the colors on the shore change a bit to abruptly. Otherwise it looks good. The first one is a bit too boring and repetitive.

TildalWave

OK yes the first one is a lot better, but on both the image and the text. If you look at just the OnO part you'll see why. Small details like that make you actually look closer at some image you glanced with the corner of your eye.

The colors from the second one are too contrasty at edges because I needed them so before applying photo filter over it to get the first one. I didn't feel like improving on the byproduct too much.

David Freitag

Just replace the bottom part of the first one with the second one and you're golden

TildalWave

02:09

No, the first one's text is better. The second one might look better, but that's not the point of ads.

David Freitag

@Scrooge Bah Humbug!

@TildalWave Wait... ads aren't meant to look good o_O

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag No, ads are meant to be seen and read.

and in this case ... clicked on

David Freitag

Yes, but it's in plain text just beneath that..

TildalWave

Ah you mean the astronomy.stackexchange.com text in white?

David Freitag

yep

Despite your feelings, it's still extremely readable in that star shape, you can still see that it should represent an 'o'

TildalWave

02:13

OK that is perhaps slightly blurred because of the photo filter, true. I probably forgot to exclude that area when I was applying it

David Freitag

In it's current state, the first image is a bit boring, but the bottom one is not.

Also, in the first image the dot looks more like a comma, whereas the small white star looks much better in the second one.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag No it's not about readability with those O's it's about symmetry and what we're trained to look at ... e.g. eyes and wheels are good examples that you'd recognize with peripheral vision and subconsciously refocus

David Freitag

@TildalWave Well, fine. Just take the insides of the second 'o' in the second image and exchange them so that they aren't exactly the same in the first image.

Or, at least, make the inside two 'o's on the first image different from each other.

TildalWave

But that's the point, they have to be exactly the same. For same reasons I describe before. Trust me, I did try first with what's now "the second one" and some other ways, including changing inner spots so they're not the same. IMO they didn't have the desired effect, at least not as good as with two exactly the same. BTW, Coca Cola is using this trick too, even from "ancient times" of advertising.

vimeo.com/37687147

David Freitag