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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

04:33

@Cerberus V of D?

TemporaryNickName

07:22

I realised that you don't need to work at Mcdonalds to support your life while in college

because it's not like Mcdonalds actually want to take away your dignity and force put on a Mcdonalds hat

and you always have parents supporting you 4ever

Cerberus

08:00

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hmm is that some other series you're referring to, the Vicar of D—? This is Keeping Up Appearances.

David Wallace

08:12

@Cerberus Dibley.

Cerberus

It sounds familiar.

But I've never seen it.

David Wallace

Dawn French.

Cerberus

And hello!

Yay!

I like her.

David Wallace

Hello.

Cerberus

It's early here.

David Wallace

08:13

10:13am I believe.

Cerberus

And somewhat late for you.

Ding!

David Wallace

Not really late here.

Cerberus

Not 10:13 PM?

Has the sun set already?

David Wallace

It is 8:13. And sunset was about 5:05. It is almost winter, after all.

Cerberus

Probably.

Oh...Jesus.

See, that's what you get when you talk to me early in the morning.

David Wallace

08:15

i don't often talk to you early in the morning.

Cerberus

And when you live upside-down.

David Wallace

Except when you're still up from the previous night.

Cerberus

That doesn't help either.

@DavidWallace This is true.

But I got up at 8.

Because my dear friend insisted that we visit a museum on a Saturday morning.

And do a guided tour, of all things.

I hate those.

Mais c'est la vie.

David Wallace

The things we do for our dear friends!

Cerberus

Indeed.

Our les-than-dear-to-be friends.

David Wallace

08:18

Oh. That's not good. What did he/she do wrong?

Cerberus

Well, this!

But I am mostly joking.

David Wallace

haha

Any particular museum?

Cerberus

How do you say that properly anyway? Less-than-dear friend to be?

The Rijksmuseum, the State Museum.

It has at last reopened, after having been renovated and partly closed for a decade.

David Wallace

OK. And I don't know. especially don't ask me about the hyphens.

I was never very dashing.

Cerberus

Haha that is a lie!

David Wallace

08:21

Oh, Cerby, you're so sweet!

Cerberus

Have we seen pictures of you when you were 18?

David Wallace

Umm, I don't think so.

If you have, it wasn't intentional.

Cerberus

Heh.

I don't think so either.

The museum in the distance.

David Wallace

Nice!

Cerberus

It's actually a bit of a tacky, Catholic monster from the 19th century.

But we like it now, because...everything built after the war is so hideous.

You may disagree.

I think most people do.

TemporaryNickName

08:25

Nice

David Wallace

Umm, I don't know. It looks nice. I'd have to go there.

TemporaryNickName

is that where you live?

Cerberus

Yup.

TemporaryNickName

sick

Cerberus

@DavidWallace Yay!

I'm hardly looking forward to this:

David Wallace

08:26

Is that the queue to get in?

Cerberus

Yes.

Although this was probably soon after the reopening.

And I have already printed a ticket, so we get to enter through some side door. But there may still be queues.

David Wallace

Wow.

TemporaryNickName

I wonder why it feels nothing when I plug in earphones to my nose

Cerberus

It?

This was during the renovation. They broke open the floors.

TemporaryNickName

but when you plug them in your ears, you start to hearing sound

Cerberus

08:30

The opening banquet, Queen at the centre.

I dislike that colour grey.

@TemporaryNickName Well, what organ do you normally use to hear sound, your ears or your nose?

TemporaryNickName

ears, but I found that when you put a earphone deep inside your mouth, you can slightly hear the music

David Wallace

How did you find that out?

Cerberus

The sound can reverberate around your skull.

And it may be able to pass from your mouth to your ears through certain tubes that you have there. Your ears are connected to your throat in some way.

Which is why swallowing and chewing can help if your ears are clogged during a flight.

Amaan Cheval

09:00

Haha, such a strange discussion

TemporaryNickName

wow, watching youtube is better than watching boring Australian tv shows

I have come to a conclusion that Australian TV shows have been focusing on making fun of fat people since 2000 and it hasn't changed

Robusto

10:08

> As far as we know, no life form evolved separately, so all organisms have a common ancestor if you go back far enough. Animals and plants fall under the category of eukaryotes, with membrane bound organelles. This category also includes organisms such as fungi and slime molds. I believe this split was around 1.6 billion (1,000,000,000 UK billion (edit: maybe not UK but 109 however you look at it) years ago

Harrumph.

RegDwighт

12:03

"I want 5 new of them" seems right. Sometimes adjectives can be used as nouns, e.g. the rich. — Stan 2 hours ago

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A: Adjective + "of them"

The main problem with the sentence "I want five new of them" is that the word "new" is an adjective. Generally, the word that comes directly before the phrase "of them" is usually a noun that is used to specify some type of quantity. For example: "I want five of them." "Out of the hundre...

I don't know what to say.

In fact I'd prefer to outright delete both.

"It is silly of them" is a completely different construction and a red herring. And "the rich" have absolutely nothing to do with anything here. "I want five of them new" is probably the only comment worth addressing in an answer. That answer, however, must not say things like "several is a noun". We should get our act together. This is one of the worst first impressions we have ever made on anyone. To answer the actual question, "I want five new of them" is ungrammatical in any dialect I am familiar with. "I want five new ones" is what a native speaker would say. — RegDwighт 19 secs ago

RegDwighт

12:30

There, threw away half of the comment and turned it into an answer.

Frühstück!

TemporaryNickName

13:20

I hate Korean people in Australia. Most of them live in their comfort zone, which is this little tiny Korean town in Sydney and Australian tv shows make fun of it sometimes

some people never get a chance speak to a real Australian person because they came here to work for Korean employer

Amaan Cheval

14:17

And why is that reason to hate everyone of their ethnicity in Australia? They can't all be that way

RegDwighт

14:32

Just when you thought Wikipedia had a list for everything, it goes ahead and demonstrates that you can't begin to imagine how huge "everything" really is.

List of fish on stamps of Bulgaria

This is a list of fish on stamps of Bulgaria {| class="wikitable" |- !rowspan="2"| Year !!rowspan="2"| Date !!rowspan="2"| Type !!rowspan="2"| Species !!rowspan="2"| Species author !!rowspan="2"| Value !!colspan="4"| Stamps catalogues !!colspan="2"| Taxonomy !!rowspan="2"| Common name |- ! Scott !! Yvert !! Mitchell !! Sta. & Gib. !! Order !! Family |- | 1965 || () || NOR || Dasyatis pastinaca || (Linnaeus, 1758) || 1 ct || 0 || 1328 || 1542 || 0 || Rajiformes || Dasyatidae || Common stingray |- | || || || Sarda sarda || (Bloch, 1793) || 2 ct || 0 || 1329 || 1543 || 0 || Perciformes || Sco...

Cerberus

14:44

@RegDwighт Hey, why are you posting my article?

I wrote most of that.

Not the widely disputed sturgeon, of course.

@JohanLarsson What's up with all the riots? Where the hell did that come from?

Johan Larsson

I don't know much about it really

Cerberus

Hmm.

Johan Larsson

Think it is hooligans

Cerberus

Is anything happening near you?

Johan Larsson

Some of the cars burning might be insurance frauds also.

Quiet here, I live in a small city

Cerberus

14:55

How far from SH?

Johan Larsson

200km

As I understood it the riots started with an arrest where some guy got killed.

Maybe they wanted a Rodney King thing

Cerberus

Okay, that's far.

Johan Larsson

But I think the guy who got killed pulled a knife on the cops

Cerberus

But I heard there were also riots in Malmö and Göteborg...

Or how do you spell it?

Johan Larsson

think I don't really know much about the whole thing

Göteborg

Cerberus

14:59

I understand.

Ahh.

Gothenburg

Gothenburg () is the second largest city in Sweden and the fifth largest in the Nordic countries. Situated by the Kattegat, on the west coast of Sweden, the city proper has a population of 528,014, with 549,839 in the urban area and total of 949,812 inhabitants in the metropolitan area. Gothenburg was founded by royal charter in 1621 by King Gustavus Adolphus. At the mouth of the Göta älv, the Port of Gothenburg is the largest port in the Nordic countries. Gothenburg is home to many students, as the city includes both the University of Gothenburg and Chalmers University of Technology. ...

Johan Larsson

There has been riots in Malmö a couple of times over the years.

Cerberus

Hmm.

Johan Larsson

You probably know more than I do about this :D

the only news I read is this chat

Cerberus

15:25

Haha.

But we're hardly new!

Noah

Howdy

When we say video do we mean that it's both audio and video or do we mean just video?

Cerberus

Ehh.

Context?

Noah

in screencasts for examples

a screencast is a video recording.

Does it mean audio+video

David Wallace

Usually, yes.

Noah

or does it mean a video that may have audio narration

David Wallace

15:34

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, Akhi Noah.

Cerberus

@Noah That is also possible.

David Wallace

Yes, it may well have audio included.

Noah

@DavidWallace Salam U alikum

How are you doing, Brother.

David Wallace

Very well, by the grace of Allah.

@Cerberus, how was the museum?

Noah

Great. Haven't seen you for quite sometime. Hope you have been splendid. @DavidWallace

David Wallace

15:37

Mostly yes. I am often quite splendid indeed.

Noah

So here is the thing: a screencast is a video recording that may have audio narration some times.

David Wallace

Yes.

Noah

Okay, great. Thank you.

@DavidWallace When we say de facto what do we really mean by it? This is becoming the de facto standard...

etc. etc.

David Wallace

It means it's not REALLY a standard, but it may as well be!

Noah

Okay, thanks.

Cerberus

15:51

@DavidWallace It has turned out rather well, it looks nice. Lots of art and stuff, you know!

How was your evening?

David Wallace

You sound surprised.

Lovely, actually.

You are lucky to have such a quality museum.

Cerberus

16:04

@DavidWallace I have been to that museum a couple of times...but this was the first time since the big renovation. And I just wasn't looking forward to a guided tour. But it was OK.

What did you do?

David Wallace

I spent most of the evening skyping with someone.

Cerberus

Ahhh.

With a certain someone?

Is it the non-T. of T.?

David Wallace

That would be the one.

Cerberus

Interesting.

David Wallace

How so?

Cerberus

16:07

That's been going for quite a long time now!

Oh, just 'cause.

David Wallace

yes, it has been a while. It's been weird too.

Cerberus

Hmm.

Weird in a fun way, or in a frustrating way?

David Wallace

Almost always in a fun way.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Cerberus Yes sir, Vicar of Dibley.

poof

David Wallace

Hi Cornbread. Bye Cornbread.

Cerberus

16:14

@DavidWallace Good.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Kewl.

David Wallace

I don't know how much I can really tell you, sorry.

Cerberus

No need.

David Wallace

I know!

Cerberus

Good!

BRB

Noah

16:45

@DavidWallace Around?

David Wallace

yes

Noah

Can I ask you something?

Not related to English

Or writing.

David Wallace

ok

Noah

What's the best book you have or might recommend on Islam?

David Wallace

for what audience?

Noah

16:48

general

David Wallace

No, be more specific. For new Muslims? Born Muslims? Non-Muslims who might convert? Non-Muslims who probably won't convert? What is your aim?

Noah

I want to know about the history of Islam.

David Wallace

Sorry, I haven't read anything specifically on the history of Islam. Do you want to ask some of my friends?

Noah

Yeah, that would be helpful.

I found one book by Martin Lings, but they don't have it for Kindle.

David Wallace

I will try to remember. You could ask the other Muslims who come to this room too.

Noah

16:52

Other Muslims in this room?

David Wallace

Well, I don't see any here at the moment.

Or at most one anyway, other than the two of us.

Noah

LOL. Let me ask you this: What is the most interesting book on Islam you have read so far?

Aside from the Holy Quran.

David Wallace

I'd like to say The Qur'an! But if I had to be honest, I'd say the one by Yahya Emerick.

"The Complete Idiot's Guide to Islam".

Noah

I was just skimming through the list on Amaazon.

Great.

David Wallace

It does have a little about the history.

Noah

16:57

Okay- great. The cool thing is that it's available for Kindle.

Not sure if you have a Kindle. But it's a great reading device. specially the new one. Kindke Paperwhite

A good book on the meaning and translation of the Holy Quran? Consider me a newbie.

David Wallace

I don't have one. I read that book on dead trees.

It is a general introduction to all aspects of Islam.

The only translation/interpretation that I have is the Yusuf Ali one. It seems OK to me.

A friend of mine has Pickthall and finds it good.

Noah

I got a great recording from noorbox production. I think they have modified the one by Mohsin Khan and Dr. Hellali. But the text and narration seem to be of outstanding quality. I sent them an email asking if they had it in text, haven't heard form them yet.

I think the English version of this recording is available on Audible.com. But it doesn't accompany the arabic recitation with it.

David Wallace

Have you seen any of the web sites with lots of translations and recitations?

Noah

Yeah, I think so. Mostly, I google them. So i don't really have a favorite one.

David Wallace

There are two that I use. quran.com has many translations but just one recitation. quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en has many recitations but just one translation.

The latter is nice, because it highlights each Ayah in the translation as the recitation progresses.

Cerberus

21:04

@DavidWallace !

Surely not a translation?

RegDwighт

21:38

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A: What is the noun that corresponds to the verb "to miss"?

Good day,ladies and gentle men, my name is Dr AMADI the great spell caster in Africa, i have help so many people for different kind of problems,who say there is no solution to problems on earth, that person as tell you a big lie, i cast all kind of spell, such as, spell to make quick money, magic...

Cerberus

22:17

@RegDwighт A gem.

David Wallace

23:42

@Cerberus Surely not. Although some translation did occur!

Cerberus

@DavidWallace phew!

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