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According to a popular usage of the preposition 'to': He worked to 5:00pm. 'to' is used to designate a point in time when an activity ends. So, in the following: http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?id=1426 Polish veteran Tomasz Gollob held the lead to the finish line for his ...

Mitch

02:41

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 ha ha... ha... hmm... frowns ... sobs into hands.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mitch it's okay, Mitchy. The state will take care of you!

Mitch

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 sobs harder

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mitch :(

Mitch

sobs so hard that no sound comes out

Ya know like a kid that just fell and scraped his knee, stands up and looks at it dully, gathers strength, and then starts bawling.... stops, gathers more breath... and then starts bawling louder.

So what's up with cats? why aren't there cute puppy pictures? or is that the new trend?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

There are some cute puppy pictures.

But, like, cats.

Cats just have more personality.

JSBձոգչ

02:55

also, cats can be evil, which makes them more interesting

a puppy is never evil

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JSBձոգչ I guess he doesn't like cats.

JSBձոգչ

i love cats.

much better than dogs

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Yes!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

03:28

buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-most-legendary-pictures-ever-taken

Damn you, buzzfeed.

JSBձոգչ

03:42

lots of pictures of celebrities is not what i expected when i clicked through there

at least half of those are of people i don't know and/or don't care about

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

04:03

I'm extra sorry

Johan Larsson

04:52

@JSBձոգչ I prefer dogs to cats, much more interaction with dogs.

TemporaryNickName

haha this is really funny.

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RegDwighт

09:31

@TemporaryNickName and there I thought this was going to be a dance video, with two people dancing synchronously on adjacent moving escalators. What a disappointment.

TemporaryNickName

Anyways, I have a question. Is "Shet" euphemistic word for Shit?

RegDwighт

I'm not sure I would call a word that close to the original a euphemism.

I mean, that's like saying that shitt is a euphemism for shit.

I'd go with minced oath.

Which, of course, is a kind of euphemism... Hm.

Robusto

09:54

@RegDwighт Heck is a euphemism for hell. So is whale, as in "We had a whale of a good time."

I mean, geezis.

Shoot is a euphemism for shit.

But so is poop.

RegDwighт

Here's your phemism.

TRiG

10:42

@WendiKidd That's not cute: it's flipping creepy!

@TemporaryNickName I've never heard shet.

Robusto

11:09

@RegDwighт If you spell that backwards, you pooped a little.

RegDwighт

msimehp ruoy s'ereH?

Yeah, sure looks like it.

Robusto

No. Pood.

As in "Reg pood."

RegDwighт

Please explain the joke some more.

Robusto

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

RegDwighт

Yes, that's why I asked.

Matt Эллен

11:18

People over-explaining jokes is a fetish

Robusto

Do you always get everything you ask for?

RegDwighт

Fetish? As in "akin to feta"?

Matt Эллен

yes, quite cheesy

RegDwighт

@Robusto what, you jealous now?

Robusto

If you get everything you ask for?

RegDwighт

11:19

Then what?

Thank you for using complete sentences?

Robusto

Are you asking for any particular reason?

RegDwighт

Yes?

Robusto

Do you think "yes" is a question?

RegDwighт

Yes?

"Yes" is not a question, but "Yes?" is, okay?

Did you drop out of first grade?

Robusto

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RegDwighт

11:21

That man is old.

Robusto

Statement. One-love.

RegDwighт

Represent.

Matt Эллен

The cutest link you ever did see

Robusto

Is representing like regifting?

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен it's just red on tan, as all other links here.

Robusto

11:25

@MattЭллен No kiddie porn links in chat, please.

RegDwighт

And yeah, the photos are OLD. He's like 27 by now.

Which is good, because he looked crap as Link, I wouldn't play that game.

Matt Эллен

you're both old meanies :Þ

RegDwighт

Hey! Listen!

Matt Эллен

it's a fountain, in the carpark

RegDwighт

The Legend of Zelda: The Car Parker.

Robusto

11:29

Well, I done the deed. Switched from Comcast to Verizon FiOS.

RegDwighт

That's a collection of letters with no meaning to me, sorry.

Check back with Kit.

Preemptive congrats, though.

user19161

@MattЭллен Hmm, looks like you, green and blond!

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy ha! yes. but I'm much older

user19161

@MattЭллен Will you be running for this year's elections?

KitFox

12:11

> I'm a middle school secretary and have been with the dist for 21 yrs. The dist's maintenance man, John, came to see the principal. I noticed that John was wearing a Harley jacket. I asked him if he rides a lot or was in a motorcycle club. John's wife, Tracy, is a teacher at my school.

> I then said to John "AFTER I GET MY F.O.I.D. CARD TRACY AND I SHOULD GO FOR SHOOTING LESSONS". The other secretary in the room then said "WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT?" I replied with the following flippant comment, "TO SHOOT YOU". I am now getting fired. I was joking, but I need to explain in technical terms.

This made me laugh this morning.

Robusto

What, people getting fired makes you laugh?

Where did you see this story, btw?

KitFox

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Q: Why would you want to do that?

I recently shared with several coworkers that I wanted to go to a particular class. My coworker responded to me with the following question: "Why would you want to do that?" I responded with a sarcastic comment. Her question seemed negative to me. Can someone explain the "usage" to me. One o...

meaning-in-context expressions phrase-requests connotation rhetoric

I'm laughing that someone would be thoughtless enough to "joke" about shooting someone in a middle school.

And then seem surprised that she was getting fired.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy no, I'll just be voting

KitFox

@MattЭллен Oh, no, you must run again!

It would be even funnier if she worked in the Newtown school district.

Robusto

@KitFox I think people are way too sensitive.

Matt Эллен

12:18

hiya @KitFox :D

KitFox

Hiya.

@Robusto Maybe. Maybe the other secretary had good reason to think that her co-worker might not really be joking.

Robusto

So you can lose your job for joking. That's idiotic.

KitFox

No, you can lose your job for joking about killing your co-worker.

Robusto

There was nothing said about killing. Only shooting.

KitFox

Like you can for joking about how you hope she gets raped on her way home or that her husband beats her.

Robusto

12:20

I dunno. It's kind of a blurry line, innit?

Matt Эллен

tries to find a way to joke about shooting a coworker's SO for raping them on the way home

KitFox

Yeah, can be. Which is why the smart ones ought to stay away from it.

Robusto

If I said, "Well, I hope a piano falls on your head," it doesn't mean I want you dead or that I am planning to rig up a piano trap for you.

KitFox

I wouldn't take kindly to having a co-worker joke about shooting me.

RegDwighт

I will rape SO while coshooting a worker. And that's not even a joke!

Robusto

12:22

I hope a piano falls on your head.

RegDwighт

@Robusto I hope it already did. That at least would explain things.

KitFox

@Robusto No, but if you were just seriously talking about how you wanted to learn how to rig a piano trap so that it would kill someone...

@RegDwighт Is your wife back?

Robusto

People should be able to tell the difference between a joke and a threat.

KitFox

Maybe she could.

RegDwighт

@KitFox No, she needs an alibi, duh.

KitFox

12:23

Haha.

And why am I wading through a pile of flags this morning? Usually you have these all cleaned up by the time I get in.

RegDwighт

It's all part of the plan to rape SO.

Start small by not clearing the flags.

Robusto

@RegDwighт That's your solution for everything.

RegDwighт

Nobody will object to that, because they are not flags.

@Robusto no, my solution for everything is acid.

Robusto

Trippy.

KitFox

Highly reactive in certain contexts.

MετάEd

12:25

@RegDwighт Be more specific. HF maybe?

RegDwighт

Mar 14 at 11:33, by RegDwighт

Breaking breadth, breaking breadth, we are gathered here together to break breadth.

@MετάEd High Fidelity? Hugh Laurie?

MετάEd

@RegDwighт Hydrofluoric.

RegDwighт

Wait. Hugh Laurie is no HF.

Matt Эллен

Happy Flapper

RegDwighт

Disregard!

@MετάEd ah yes, so it is Hugh Laurie.

Hyghrolauric.

KitFox

12:28

@Matt!

So I woke up with pinkeye in both eyes this morning.

RegDwighт

> An idea is 1/100000 of the development process. The other 99 percent is the hard part.

Actual upvoted comment from Reddit.

@KitFox got it from your little one?

KitFox

Did you write it?

@RegDwighт Couldn't be. Both of them were over it last week.

This is just out of the blue.

RegDwighт

@KitFox no, I responded to it.

@KitFox incubus period.

KitFox

waits for Reg's pithy witticism

RegDwighт

@KitFox if you insist. reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1dug14/someone_make_this/c9u0sv0

KitFox

12:37

@RegDwighт No, I really don't think so. The onset is very fast usually.

@RegDwighт Well. You've done better work, but that's some solid workmanship right there.

RegDwighт

Nah, it sucks. I don't want to waste time on those kiddies.

KitFox

Yeah, yeah, even your crap is better than most.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox the 1920s were an exciting time

KitFox

I was just trying to disturb your game. I was being a bitch for your attention.

Because it seems like it's been ages since I saw you.

Robusto

@KitFox More likely a withy pitycism.

Matt Эллен

12:43

@KitFox hehehe :D

I was on a stag do from Friday to Monday

KitFox

Uh. What's that mean?

Robusto

@KitFox I've heard of attention whores, but not attention bitches. Is this a thing now?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox Oh, um. Bachelor party

KitFox

@Robusto Yes. I've just coined it. Freshly minted. Mmm, minty.

Matt Эллен

minty coins. my favourite

KitFox

12:45

@MattЭллен Oh, I thought maybe so, but the whole weekend?

Well, attention bitch does neatly sum up those kind of women.

The ones who find problems so they can tear people up for an audience.

I'm kind of feeling like that today, so I have a little sticky here that says "Be kind."

Matt Эллен

@KitFox aye. I drove up on Friday. Saturday was paint ball, Sunday was raft building and Monday I drove back, stopping off at a friend's to play a bit of MtG and catch up.

KitFox

My son told me yesterday that I was not being kind and thoughtful to him.

@MattЭллен Whew. That sounds like a blast.

We just went to a strip club.

Matt Эллен

yeah, it was great fun. lots of booze

Yeah. stag dos have started getting all "keeping up with the Joneses"

you have to try and be inventive and shit

KitFox

It sounds like more fun than a strip club.

Matt Эллен

Definitely more fun than a strip club

KitFox

12:48

But really, hanging with the peeps and drinking...that's pretty much all you need.

Matt Эллен

aye

Robusto

Gotta commute. Laterz.

KitFox

See you!

Matt Эллен

CU

KitFox

Hey, it's Teacher Appreciation Day.

Matt Эллен

12:50

@KitFox why did he say that?

KitFox

Somehow that applies to me because I'm somehow a member of the NEA.

@MattЭллен I was playing with my other son and didn't want to play with him.

But he wanted just me to play with him.

So that wasn't very nice either.

Matt Эллен

indeed

KitFox

Damn. I didn't include a particular key in this view that would be really helpful right now.

Oh wait. I did! pats self on head

Matt Эллен

yay!

KitFox

So...positive mindset, thinking happy thoughts, saying nice things to people.

It's harder than golfing.

Matt Эллен

12:54

indeed

It's easier for me to appear nice, by virtue of being quiet

that way I just don't say anything unkind

KitFox

I'm trying to break this spiral of negativity.

Matt Эллен

it's more difficult if you have people who want to talk to you

KitFox

Ha! I will happily make your life more difficult.

Matt Эллен

lol

I have to go and buy a birthday present. I have no idea what to get.

KitFox

Who for?

Matt Эллен

12:56

a friend. it's their 30th

KitFox

A woman?

Matt Эллен

we're not super close.

Yes

KitFox

Does she like reading?

Matt Эллен

Yes

well, I assume so. I don't have friends that don't like reading

KitFox

Does she like good stuff, or crap?

Matt Эллен

12:57

I've text her sister for ideas

@KitFox I don't know

KitFox

Difficult. Water for Elephants was really good. I read that around the time I turned 30.

Earrings, maybe.

Or a nice coffee/tea cup.

Something nice, but not too personal.

Or lacy pants.

Matt Эллен

I'm no good at picking jewellery.

KitFox

That's nice and not too personal.

giggles

Matt Эллен

but that book sounds good

@KitFox raises single eyebrow

KitFox

@MattЭллен I meant for you. Lacy pants...for you.

Matt Эллен

13:00

lol

KitFox

suppresses giggles

If she likes drinking coffee or tea, you could do well with a nice cup.

Matt Эллен

yes. a nice cup is also a good idea

KitFox

I wish I could remember what I've read any time in the last decade or so.

Is she blonde?

Matt Эллен

no

KitFox

Most of the stuff I've plowed through despite its crappiness, or I've re-read stuff I liked.

If she liked graphic novels...

Matt Эллен

13:02

@KitFox I'm currently reading ECMA 262 version 5.1

because I'm that awesome

@KitFox oh! yeah. that's a good idea

KitFox

But it's hard to recommend big-kid books without knowing more about what she likes. Water for Elephants is broadly appealing, I think.

@MattЭллен You are hard-core.

Matt Эллен

heh

KitFox

@MattЭллен So then. tries not to think about Girl Genius

Gah. Why do I like only boy stuff?

Matt Эллен

right. I'm going out. I'll be back once I have a card and gift.

CU

KitFox

Good luck!

Matt Эллен

13:04

thanks!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:14

@MετάEd It's a VW bus. The original lego AT-AT model has an orange minifig (luke skywalker in pilot uniform) hanging down.

MετάEd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The little thing is a baby bus standing in for Luke Skywalker?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MετάEd yes

a baby model of the original bus that that at-at-vw is based on.

Cerberus

Morning.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

morning

MετάEd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think it should have been a baby biped, then. Maybe a bicycle, or a Segway.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:18

@MετάEd A Segway, with its wheels replaced by the AT-ST (two-legged walker from RotJ) legs would be funny too. But 'tisn't my model so you'll have to just imagine it.

Cerberus

My friend hung a bag with bread on my door.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

do you have a cold today?

Cerberus

A little bit, but that's not it: I had forgotten my bread at her house, and she happened to pass by my house long before I normally wake up.

So that was funny.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:30

no I asked because you wrote "by friend" as if your nose is blocked

Cerberus

Oh haha.

KitFox

Hi @Mr.Shiny.

Cerberus

That would have been funnier than I am capable of.

KitFox

Hi @Cerb.

Cerberus

Hi!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:31

@KitFox morning

Cerberus

> Mogadiscu in 1936.

KitFox

Hi @MετάEd

Cerberus

It was a beautiful city, until the war came in 1990.

It really is a pity.

MετάEd

13:45

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Okay. I did.

@KitFox Mornin!

RegDwighт

14:01

Sounds good to me.

MετάEd

14:30

Clearly I missed something.

Robusto

15:23

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A: Should the words "much needed" be hyphenated or not?

Noun phrases are normally hyphenated when used as adjectives. For example: These is some oak panels. This is my oak-pannelled wardrobe. This is green cotton This is my green-cotton sweater. Hence you would say This is a much-needed holiday. That being said, English is s...

Nonsense.

Also, crappy use of NGrams.

Sudhir

15:59

Hi @MattЭллен

I've one question.

Is every Tuesday there is a meeting?

Hi @MattЭллен

Matt Эллен

16:13

I writer's chat, yes. There is a writer's chat meeting there. It's not related to here, except that some of the same people go

@Sudhir although it hasn't been running for the last few weeks

KitFox

16:36

@MattЭллен Last week!

And this week, since you reminded me.

JSBձոգչ

17:00

@Cerberus that is really tragic. so pretty!

Cerberus

@JSBձոգչ Yeah! I think most of that was Italian architecture, though (so not nearly as old or special as Timbuktu).

JSBձոգչ

still. wars are stooopid.

Cerberus

Very.

I'm so glad most of Timbuktu was saved.

I think it contains the most important cultural treasures of black Africa.

Although I'm not even sure how black they are in Mali...

Okay, pretty black.

Not very much like north Africa.

Johan Larsson

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 3 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus

What can the red glow behind this guy be called, I don't think it is a halo

Cerberus

An aura?

Aureole? Nimbus?

KitFox

17:10

You could call it a halo. It looks like the kind of halo you'd see on a religious ikon, except it's red.

Matt Эллен

@JohanLarsson lookslike the dot from the Japanese flag

Johan Larsson

lol

Yeah maybe it is an evil halo, liked aura also

got to walk all four dogs for a while now, babysitting one

Matt Эллен

have fun!

JSBձոգչ

nimbus is probably a good neutral word, like Cerb recommended

KitFox

Nimbus is a nice word. Like limnus.

Johan Larsson

17:16

When I read Nimbus I think boats, that does not mean much

walking dogs in 20'

JSBձոգչ

boats??!

KitFox

Nimbus makes me think of fluffy clouds.

Johan Larsson

Anyone need vector graphics for something

@JSBձոգչ Nimbus boats, maybe not known outside of Sweden

JSBձոգչ

@JohanLarsson never heard of 'em. maybe a swedish thing, maybe i just don't know much about boats

Johan Larsson

I have this idea to learn how to use Blend tonight and for some reason it is never fun to work on my own stuff. If you have requests for simple icon type graphics please ping and I can try to hack something ugly for ya

MετάEd

17:19

@JohanLarsson It's a halo.

Matt Эллен

yay!

KitFox

Hey @Mετά, you want to write with us today?

Or @JSB?

MετάEd

Yes. And can't. I am generally behind the eight ball all day every day now, because I'm doing the plant's production planning.

And learning as I go ...

Matt Эллен

is it a magic 8 ball?

Johan Larsson

@MετάEd nice find, looks like some kind of hat also

MετάEd

17:21

@MattЭллен Answer hazy. Ask later.

KitFox

@MετάEd Yipes. OK then.

Matt Эллен

:D

KitFox

Hey, at least you are aware of the clitoris now.

Things could be worse.

Cerberus

This is really interesting. I wonder why this has never occurred to me:

> Security experts have proposed a simple way for websites to better secure highly sensitive databases used to store user passwords: the creation of false "honeyword" passcodes that when entered would trigger alarms that account hijacking attacks are underway.

This could be really effective.

MετάEd

@KitFox Me?

KitFox

17:33

Yes.

MετάEd

@KitFox Indeed. Life is good.

JSBձոգչ

@KitFox what are we writing about?

KitFox

@JSBձոգչ The first day of school is the ten-minute one today.

JSBձոգչ

in the overlook hotel?

KitFox

Yes.

Sudhir

17:49

Hi @KitFox

How do you do?

KitFox

I'm well. And yourself?

Sudhir

I'm fine.

How's your ear?

KitFox

Better, thanks.

Sudhir

I found one sentence drink for England

What does it mean?

KitFox

Hard to say. Probably a toast in honor of England?

Sudhir

17:52

ok

I've one confusion.

The population of Tokyo is greater than any other town in the world.

greater than that of any other?

Which one is more apt?

What's the difference between the two?

KitFox

Uh...Probably "Tokyo is the most populated city in the world."

@Sudhir There isn't any real difference.

Sudhir

Grammatically wise I'm asking.

KitFox

There isn't any real difference.

Sudhir

Both are correct?

KitFox

Yes. Except I would use city instead of town.

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