@RegDwighт and soon you'll be able to ride on a real life T2

@Robusto What? holy shit you just gave away the ending...

I'm riding a shark right now.

Or jumping it.

@Robusto There's only one "49ers", I guess.

@Mitch Second place is a set of steak knives. Third place ... you're fired.

I did not see that movie recently.

But I do remember...what was his name...that guy...

L Ron Hubbard.

Nope..

John somethety something...

@RegDwighт Let me know if you need a hand. i always have my ark.

Irishy name

John Quincy Adams.

Mahoney.

No he was a Patriot.

@RegDwighт Yours? I think this build style works better for the shark than some of the other animals

Samuel Adams.

@RegDwighт LEGO is a leaky abstraction, much like a Javascript framework.

But his daughter is Ione Skyye and she visited him in prison.

Noah The Second

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 not sure what you mean.

Elven shenanigans.

and then John Mahoney held up his boom box so that everyone could hear when the Galaxy quest crashed into the convention hall.

@RegDwighт is this your shark?

Oh John Cusack.

@Robusto that's the whole point. That's the challenge. Building awesome stuff using a bunch of leaky abstractions.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 of course it is.

It has similar characteristics to your other animals

Of course it does.

mainly, the squarish look and the two-wide body

@RegDwighт The Titanic was a leaky abstraction and look what happened to it.

Actually I wrote up some text for CUUSOO today. When I'm over 15 animals, I'll put them up.

But I think that works better on this shark than it does on, say, the giraffe.

Hmm.. so I'm thinking that John Mahoney got sent to prison with John Cusack because he couldn't sell enough to get the knives.

Has anyone seen "Blow"?

I like the shark. I like them blue lego.

@RegDwighт Whoa dude...how is Lego a leaky abstraction?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 well there's not many parts you can use for the giraffe at this scale. Or really, any animal.

@Noah I think I saw it a million years ago.

@Mitch What? John Cusack got sent to prison?

@Mitch ping Rob about that, not me. He said that.

How do you know John?

@RegDwighт I know. But looking at your menagerie, I just like some of the animals a lot more than some of the others.

@KitFox shaking

@Robusto Yeah and he framed the warden and head guard and broke out and went to Mexico.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you liked the goat, right?

yes

@Mitch You are a mean person.

@RegDwighт oops...and you weren't even in the line of sight.

It's...I can't...

@Noah What?

@KitFox Million years?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You see, here's the fun thing. I've been publishing the animals one at a time for about a year now, on a whole number of sites, testing them on my friends and wife, this chatroom, etc. One typical reaction across the board has been "I like them all, but I like X most" — where X differs wildly from person to person.

@KitFox I think he's cold.

In fact you are the only one to like the goat so far, with the exception of my wife.

@RegDwighт what? really?

OK, bye!

Bye!

It's started snowing, so I'm leaving.

Bye?

Have a great day.

@Robusto OK try again...how is Lego a leaky abstraction.?

Safe travels!

@RegDwighт my favs are the goat, the sheep, the rhino, and the reindeer. And now the shark. It's the best so far. but it's also kinda huger than the others, in scale.

Hope you are not in the Mid West

I think that is the real issue.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 A friend of mine could kill for the donkey. Some dude on Reddit almost broke out in tears of joy when he saw the elephant. Elsewhere, people are most obsessed with the hippo. And overall, the most popular one is the rhino, which I myself found to be the weakest when I did it.

@Mitch If you have to represent a curve you have to get out a soldering iron.

@RegDwighт How do you make it...hover?

@RegDwighт The elephant I'm lukewarm about. It has some problems but then elephants are hard and these animals are stylized anyway, so maybe those problems aren't problems. But I find, eg, the cow has too bulky a body. It looks wrong to me.

@Mitch magic. A ringlet of David Copperfield's. Plus two transparent parts.

And the mountain goat, which is very similar to the goat, I don't like as much. I think it's the eyes.

@Robusto I can see how that would leak...and also produce toxic plastic fumes. but it has one well defined interface, that littel round thing and the thing it snaps into. If you're using it for some unintended purpose that's not a leaky abstraction. Or is it?

magic, it has flying and trample.

Do programmers really work 8 hours a day?

yes

@RegDwighт sweet. Magic. searches amazon

some work more

@Noah except the ones who frequent this room.

:D

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 lol

> Officially, Facebook Home only is available for the Samsung Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4 and the Galaxy Note 2, and the HTC One, One X and One X+

aww, my Nexus 4 won't get it? shucks

How about the iPhone?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes, the cow is my least favorite right now as well. Its whole point was to demonstrate a different SNOT technique, using a different slope as a seed part. nothing else. in that, it succeeded, but that's about it. At that time that's all I was doing. I only started going after higher realism and a more consistent scale as time passed.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 aw man...they have to come out with a Galaxy Quest now. They would totally corner the market.

And actually the sheep is now quickly losing ground with me as well, for much the same reasons as the cow. It's huge.

I might remake both.

in your own image?

You mean in LEGO?

@MattЭллен well not in yours. green orc.

@RegDwighт The sheep, at least, has a head that's reasonably proportioned to its body. It's just a fluffy sheep.

:D they might look good ferocious and green!

@Mitch I hate Samsung's branding so much. It's so friggin confusing.

@Mitch I never use things for unintended purposes. All my purposes are intentional.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh yeah. Plus it was the first of the bunch. The one with which it all started. Still, it doesn't quite work with the elephant and the crocodile, or really most of them.

And the heads (and eyes) are the one thing that is supposed to be a bit too big, for the cuteness effect.

Anyway. If I put them up on CUUSOO, and they actually reach 10000, then the final word is with LEGO anyway. They'll likely redo them all from scratch.

apparently the preferred blend is crocophant. neither elodile nor eledile come up

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 oh and the shark's scale is fine. These photos can be misleading when viewed in isolation.

@RegDwighт No, what I mean is the shark has to be approximately 12 studs long? while the elephant is 10 studs long.

It could be bigger. Especially next to that giant piglet.

And ignore the fox for the moment, it's still in beta.

okay, so I've just consulted some actual information sources, and the largest sharks are way longer than any elephant

Yes.

I always have Google Images open when designing.

So anyway. My main goal is that they are recognizable as belonging to the same series, while using completely different approaches. Different tails, different legs, different eyes.

Then comes the scale.

I do want to have it work as a zoo of sorts, at City scale

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I actually put the manta on my list yesterday.

And I've been flirting with dinos today.

I also tried a turtle yesterday, but so far it's a dead-end.

I'd really love to use the new masonry profile bricks for the shell.

Not feasible, it would appear.

hm

try the giant squid

Hah.

Well, never say never.

the scale would be right for a 1x1 round tile as its eye

But it must be cute, so I'd have to use the 2x2 radar dish.

heheh

well, i must be off. happy building!

Thanks and CU.

Hibye!

@aediaλ That's my favorite country in the Middle East.

@RegDwighт I do quite like the hippo, but I think the reindeer and pony are cuter

See, and with that you are neither alone, nor in the absolute majority.

I'm actually using that as a pitch in my CUUSOO draft.

> One typical reaction across the board has been "I like them all, but I like X most" — where X differs wildly from person to person. So LEGO doesn't run the risk of producing forty different animals and then only ever selling four. All animals will be sought after by their respective fans.

Thinking about turtles just reminded me of a turtle toy I had as a child. I think its head maneuvered in and out of the shell and maybe its flipperlegs flipped. I wish I could remember anything else about it, like the manufacturer, to look up a picture.

Though it's probably disappointing now because I'm sure I remember it more adorable than it really was.

Yeah a retractable head would really be nice. I wonder if it's doable at this scale.

Right now I'm still figuring out the general outline. Not even thinking about such details.

I can't think of how, but it would be awesome.

Well, a couple Technic parts here and there go a long way.

The actual problem would be, where to press or what to do to make the head appear again. You don't want to be breaking your fingernails trying to get it out.

The turtle toy I'm thinking of was like a giant plastic thing maybe 10" across, so not comparable. I'm trying to remember how it worked and I think it was submersible

You stuck the turtle in the water and its head would come out of the shell.

Wow.

Archimedes at work? David Copperfield?

Definitely sorcery.

So Daniel Radcliffe, then.

Uhh he may not have been born yet when this turtle first came into my possession.

Forbidden use of a time-turner?

Well they did do time travel in the, what, fourth? movie. Or fifth.

They only took precautions not to run into their other selves. Nothing about turtles. No guidelines that I remember.

turtles time travel

Hah. Just ran into this hilarious JK Rowling quote.

they went back to Feudal Japan

> It is simply impossible to incorporate every one of my storylines into a film that has to be kept under four hours long.

Whatever happened to 90 minutes.

I ate them?

Heck, never mind 90 minutes. Whatever happened to films running under three hours.

Youtube

Editors got fired?

everything is under five minutes

@MattЭллен Have you been to YouTube? Every video these days is 10 hours of this, 10 hours of that.

Don't make me link.

oh, sure, if you want to hear an annoying song forever, they have that

bops head in tune with mental music, curses softly

It doesn't have to be annoying. Not in the first nine hours anyway.

@aediaλ oh I have the perfect video for you.

Wait, you said mental, not metal.

I honestly misread.

Not that it takes away from the perfectnessity of the video.

Wow.

I can't watch. Ow my brains.

Skip to the last ten seconds.

It's actually nicely edited and all. Not just two frames for the entire duration. Quite some thought has been put into this piece of, um. Yes.

Heh.

Entertainment.

nice

Here's another one. Wait for it. It's worth it.

Can you make me a triceratops, @Reg?

But you are a triceratops, already.

Haven't you noticed, Cornbread Samsa?

rimshot

Hey a Kafka joke gets a rimshot. Only In This Room!™

You hadn't said that part yet.

Come on, I"m making you look good.

Way to be honest.

I don't have to take this.

You can take a grain of salt instead.

Anyway I think there's an official triceratops already.

Rawr!

@RegDwighт haha! cute

Not my scale, of course, so perhaps worth trying.

He looks like he oughta be a Transformer.

This is more like my scale and I think I can do better.

Though usually I don't look at official models prior to creating one of my own. So now I must quickly forget all about this one.

Whoa. Um. Is that real and was it actually meant to be a triceratops and not some sort of... weird antlered beast in red footy pajamas?

@aediaλ well how should I put it. Not every official LEGO model is good.

And yes it's real, and yes I'm even missing three parts. Put them on my order this very second.

Gotta run. Dinner, games, and hopefully not too much more werk that insane thing where everything's broked.

CU

Have a stress-free triceratops, everyone!

You three!

Thanks! you troo!

good night

for I am tired

and it is dark

Well I'll use that opportunity to log off as well, for I must finish the building instructions for the crocodile, and get going with the ones for the shark.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I suppose the risk is fairly small either way, for a responsible user such as I, hehe.

Bye Schnappi!

Actually I must build the crocodile, too.

I only have the bigger version right now.

Don't forget your Schnapps.

And the last missing part for the smaller version came just today.

You have it, yet you have to build it?

Ahh.

It's a nice opportunity to put my own building instructions to a test.

Oooh.

Make sure to post an update for your best bud!

It's been a while, so I can't build it from memory. So it's a fair test.

But you have tried following other instructions of yours before?

@Cerberus just visit Flickr ten times every day and fiercely click reload a hundred times.

Next up is the croc, then I think the piglet, then the shark.

And then I must start working on my CUUSOO presentation.

@Cerberus yes of course. But from designing to building to creating the instructions it's typically just a day or two. With the croc I had to wait a full twenty days for the parts.

And it's not a trivial build, either. So it's a more real test this time than usual.

@RegDwighт You happen to have a script lying around that presses f5 every 100 ms?

I dunno, some Dutchman gave me one once, but I don't remember when or who.

Hmm...who could that be?

Wow.

Very pro.

Looks like a real booklet.

I have at last added you as a contact btw.

I was in your list, but you weren't in mine. Somehow.

So the designer hides certain seams, but not all?

@Cerberus Yeah, I'm getting the knack. The ones for the shark will be insanely more complex still.

I mean the picture with all of your animals.

Oh...

Is there a shark?

@Cerberus depends on the scale, as you can see it doesn't really do antialiasing.

@Cerberus scroll up.

Oh!

Great!

I see everything can move!

Made the photo on our terrace just a couple hours ago.

The tail too?

@Cerberus Yes, it has six or seven submodels.

@Cerberus yes, left and right.

It's not exactly terrace weather here. It's rainy and cold.

Nice.

The best weather for taking LEGO pictures.

LEGO is allergic to sunlight.

Ah.

It crumbles after a minute of sunlight.

Very much so.

Your goat is...woolly.

I think they used LEGO for that scene in Interview with a Vampire.

@Cerberus which one? The mountain goat must be woolly.

It's cold and all.

The crumbling LEGO scene.

Oh noes!

Poor Legos.

I have actually seen that film, you know.

The normal goat looks woolly too.

More like a different species of mountain goat.

Cf. the pony and the reindeer.

The donkey is probably just fat.

A thief that can barely walk yet, so instructed by her father.

Hahaha.

> [In the box] was a bottle of dog vitamins. I hear they're going for $ on the street. All the kids are doing them these days.

Heh.

Dog vitamins are awful, I tell you.

And there I was wondering how you came across the video.

I prefer...hamburgers!

Yeah.

It was actually on nrc.nl.

@Cerberus so that statement leaves us with two possibilities. 1. You're not the thief cuz you wouldn't take them. 2. You are the thief, and this was the first time you tried them.

Who do you think I am able to disguise myself as a toddler?

David Copperfield?

Ugh. *why

It's a good book?

Weiß ich nett.

Oh, you speak Moselfränkisch?

One tries.

Muss i' denn, muss i' denn...

Then it should be isch, not ich, while you're at it.

Ah.

I knew it was incomplete...

And weiß is more like wehs.

Jetzt wehs isch es.

Wessischnett.

@Cerberus joh, awei weschde's.

I know what that is?

Joh = Dutch.

Actually even that transcription is not accurate, though common. It's more like wezhes.

I'm sure.

@Cerberus "ja, jetzt weißt Du es".

If only we had vocal chat.

Ahh...

Awei = a weil = eine Weile.

Ahhh.

How it came to mean "now", no idea.

I had no idea what that was.

You can know the etymology but it still makes zero sense.

Yeah. Although you will get a feel for it once you hear it more.

Anyway, a typical sentence would be "Awei muß isch die wesch wesch, wesche?"

"I have to do laundry now, you know?"

Die Wäsche waschen, weißt Du? -> die wesch wesch wesche.

I understood!

Without reading your translation.

I know. After all, you speak Moselfränkisch.

Well, it doesn't that different from Dutch.

Moet ik de was wassen, weetje?

Actually it is, you couldn't pronounce any of the SCH's to save your life.

That's the one that always gives away a Dutch.

Why not?

Remember that parliament woman?

The video you posted?

No?

Of course not.

We had a long discussion about her sch'es.

I would need to see her again.

@Cerberus well then scroll up for about a year.

Gah, you have 10 pages worth of videos in the transcript. I'm not checking them all.

Hehe.

So what does sch sound like when it's wrong?

I might check out the Hot Girls of Comic-Con 2011, Part 2.

Did I post that?

@Cerberus oh noes not that again. Scroll up I said!

Ah...

A mere three weeks ago!

Ah, Mitt Romney!

You really would make for the best spy.

I barely knew what the video was about when I posted it.

You wouldn't give away any secrets, or nonsecrets. You wouldn't even know what "give away" means.

It was just for Romney.

I know!

You'd just sit around chewing on vitamins.

They're icky.

But see, you would have forgotten.

Forgotten what?

Anyway I was going to log off. Like an hour ago!

Exactly one hour, to be precise!

And forty-seven seconds, okay.

Either way I'm not staying for another hour.

You go look for that video. You have work to do.

You're even worse than I.

Good luck with your zoo.

Thank you. You will be the first to know, if you keep clicking Reload on flickr.

Over and out herewith.

Haha bye.