I'm not saying ppt is great at that, it's just something everyone has, so it's easy to get them to take a look. I'm talking about getting individual people to look at something when I need their review but maybe they're non-programmers who won't/can't get to a development site version, or an HTML prototype is too time-consuming, etc. Not a mind-numbing group presentation.

Though I have created presentations for other people to use, when I couldn't talk them out of it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm impressed with how you do that. It's a rare skill. You should be very very proud of yourself.

PPT is all about simplification. On another note, I recently had someone give a presentation, with diagrams and bullet points and the whole schmeer...in Excel.

I suggested consume, he did not love it

'consuming media'?

@Mitch I would have said that too

'viewing' (that doesn't work so well for books)

I bet this is for some db field or a superclass of media.

In that case just use WatchingReadingOther

Why bother with the modality, just say 'Usage' or 'Completion Status'

lol I suggested two words, still no love :D

in progress?

But I don't speak the language much

@JohanLarsson words are overrated. Just point. if it is ambiguous, grunt.

@Mitch then shoot?

ha ha. no.

point with your finger.

@aediaλ was already suggested

violence is also overrated. On the other hand, words with violence is not appreciated enough.

@JohanLarsson I think I need more sleep. I read that as "I don't speak the language mulch"

I haven't mulched my language either and I was worried for a moment.

@aediaλ worries now about language mulch

I mean, it's snowing outside and I haven't got any grass clippings yet, am I going to be left behind?

what does mulch mean? Sounds like eating to me.

No, you're thinking of munch.

it's the stuff you put around the base of bushes to...well, I don't know what for...it just seems the thing to do. old leaves, pine bark, that sort of thing.

ok ty

I forgot how to play the "you're thinking of" game. "No, that's munch. You're thinking of a late breakfast"?

No, not brunch. You're thinking of a car accident.

No, not a crash, you're thinking of what the Hulk does.

No, no, not a crash. You're thinking of that thing that's not a hyphen.

No, no, Not smash, you're thinking of a fast guy in red tights

so @aedia I am sorting my lego

no, no not a dash or flash, you're thinking of the bottle of liquor.

No, not a hyphen. You're thinking of something else.

I just got a pile of boxes from amazon

Boxes!

no no not something else, you thinking of that other thing.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Was there anything in them?

Anyone can send you boxes. It's the stuff in them that counts.

Stuff doesn't count, it's people that count.

@Robusto Yes, they had boxes in them

like that, only, empty

15"x14"x3" with removable dividers

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 drools

soon to be filled with lego bricks

@aediaλ Now that you own a house you can get back into the habit!

Anyone know a good place to find names from Nordic mythology? I'm getting a puppy in three weeks and need a name.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 mind = assploded. That's got to be a security violation. An illegal box injection!

@JohanLarsson The days of the week will give you a few

I was thinking Loke or Garm, does not love Garm but he was a dog at least

Also bought one of these

It's like the same thing, but smaller, with smaller compartments

@JohanLarsson Fenrir?

ha nice! ty Fenrisulven was dogish

my good deed for the day

I wonder how many dogs have that name in nordic countries

Hmm dogs?

I have just switched to Nova Launcher btw.

The "add widget" menu is so much better!

And you can get rid of the Google search bar.

And you can add widgets by long-pressing the background on your home screen, which is far more intuitive than the default Android way.

yeah Android 2 used to have "add widget" right in the long-press menu of the launcher

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 not that many, I know no one and I know a lot of dogs :D

I have no idea why they changed it to the way it is in ICS

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 There are some board games that I'm considering getting boxes like that for (well, maybe even smaller ones, depending on the game). I hate when components get mixed that take a long time to sort during setup, but opening and closing lots of little baggies annoys me too.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Exactly. No idea why they removed that.

How often do you change wallpapers??

@Cerberus my wife is still using the wallpaper I had when she took the phone from me.

And now you have both wallpapers and widgets to choose from in the same menu.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Aww.

Granted, it's a photo of our son, after he fell asleep in his lunch.

Haha.

Removing that would feel like betrayal for her...

So do you use the stock launcher?

Still happy with your Nexus 4?

@Cerberus yes. All of its flaws remain theoretical for now.

@Cerberus I almost never change wallpapers. I've changed mine more often on this phone than usual (a couple times already) because my calendar widget is a bit transparent and I've been trying to find a photo I took that looks nice with it. But typically I have the same wallpaper for most of the life of a phone.

I don't really add or change widgets that often either once I do a lot of initial setup, unless I get some new app, so the functionality for doing that could be like 10 clicks for all it matters to me. Maybe I'm weird.

I change wallpaper maybe every few months

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's adorable

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Awww.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Great! What would its flaws be anyway? Storage?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 did you know that a wallpaper with a hot woman gives you bad luck in online poker?

@Cerberus no removable battery, no support for USB accessories...

@aediaλ Sounds familiar, although I switched to an all-black background.

@aediaλ And 10 swipes...

@JohanLarsson Hm, I never have a wallpaper of a hot woman, but I also never play online poker.

@Cerberus I have all-black right now. But I don't like how it looks on the lock screen.

I need a new wallpaper.

If my daughter would agree to pose for a photo, I'd take a picture of her and her brother. But she is such a difficult subject.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I change desktop wallpaper maybe that often.

I usually don't change widgets at all, but then once in a while I am in a bout of Novelty and Experimentation. Then I want to, say, test a couple calendar widgets. And each calendar application has 10–screens of widgets for itself alone! Lots of annoying swiping.

But no more, with Nova!

Tele lens is great for portraits, then you can go into sniper mode. Also gives nice depth of field.

I happened to score Nova Prima for € 0,20 or so a while ago, during some Google jubilee.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh! Yay! But why not?

@aediaλ OMG I have never in my life changed that, at least not on XP. I have one of the standard blue background, with basically nothing in it.

Lock screen appearance is a good point. That's probably part of why I don't change mine much - my husband and I have had identical phones several times in a row, and I like that really quick identification of "that's one's mine" when I'm trying to grab the right one off the table

Ahh...

Yes.

@Cerberus I find it looks wrong with just a black background. The lock screen is so bare.

It is.

But I never use the lockscreen anyway.

I swipeit away within .5 seconds.

And at home I have it disabled.

I use my home screen(s) for quick info checking.

I don't need two similar applications doing the same thing!

wow, with Nova launcher I can remove unused desktop screens. And allow rotation! nice.

And also put more icons on the screen!

Yeah!

That is one of my biggest complaints about the GN and N4: there is more screen than the NS but they didn't add more icons

I'm sorry, I thought you knew!

You can also remove the dock! The fixed icons at the bottom.

Because what good is a dock?

well, I use the dock

Why?

I use the dock a lot

You can just as well put the icons on your primary home screen.

because it's on every screen

I don't need to switch to a different screen to access things

Why do you need it on every screen? I haven't removed my dock yet, but I think it is irrational.

actually it'd make more sense to remove the icons from the screen and use dock folders

and fill the home screen with widgets

You could do that...

But I like to have some non-folder applications.

The ones I really use a lot, like the browser.

Still, think about the dock. Do you really need to have 5 icons available on all home screens? You can just press the home button to return to home screen 0.

Isn't it just because you are used to it, because it's always been that way on every phone?

I like being able to get to texts/phone/mail/browser without having to think. There's no click to get back to the home screen or remember where they are.

By the way, be aware that widgets can be memory and CPU "hogs", in that fewer widgets is usually better, ceteris paribus.

@aediaλ Huh, but if you tap home while on another home screen than primary, you go to the primary page, "home screen 0".

So you could always get to your texts with one tap.

@Cerberus Home takes you back to whatever home screen you were on when the app started

Yes, but press again.

But I can be looking at one of the screens to the side, that has my shopping list widget, and click text button in the dock, without going back to the middle home screen.

Hmmmmm OK.

If you often do that, then your set-up is vindicated!

Congratulations!

I might get rid of the search bar given that the home button can be swiped up to invoke google now

And you could just use a button!

The "search bar" serves no purpose at all, and it doesn't work like a search bar at all. It is basically a huge button whose size serves no purpose.

well, it has that microphone at the side

Okay, two buttons.

I never ever use it anyway.

wow, I can hide the notificaiton bar! That'll come in handy no days.

I use that all the time!

Except I have it assigned to a gesture so I can hide it when I'm using the browser or something that likes lots of screen real-estate. It also hides the back/home/task buttons.

I have never begrudged my browser those extra few pixels

I like to be able to see the time

I like that I can resize the clock widget

I don't think I would have been able to tell you one way or the other if stuff covered the notification bar. Now that I've looked, I guess I like the notification bar and back/home/task bar always being present. At least Back. I don't think I use home/task buttons much at all compared to Back

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Don't you like having the full screen when watching videos already?

@aediaλ Same.

I would definitely end up ignoring all my messages if the notification bar was hidden

You could set Back to a gesture, like swipe up from the bottom centre.

@aediaλ Yeah I only want it hidden in certain applications and under special circumstances.

@Cerberus youtube already hides the controls and stuff

Yes, and don't you like that?

I pinch with three fingers to toggle notification/bottomthingy on or off anywhere.

By the way, did you know you can also have your dock have several pages? You can swipe it left and right independently.

Not sure I like that, too confusing.

Gotta shovel moar snow. Catch y'all later.

Poor you!

Latorz.

Actually, I need to get food!

@Cerberus yes, it's fine for video. I don't need it for browsing.

We got over a foot of new snow here. Fuck winter.

Wow.

Move to Singapore?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Need, need...it's nice.

@Cerberus I'd rather be able to see my notificaitons

You don't see your notifications when your screen is off either.

So you can do without for short periods of time.

@Robusto I thought coke was snow?

Well, if snow is coke, I have to say shoveling it for over an hour yields a high of a disappointingly low order.

@Cerberus Snow:

Oh, God, not that...

@Cerberus And you're not using your phone while sleeping, so you clearly don't need it at all.

it bugs me when I'm playing a game and a message comes in and I can't see who it's from

I have to stop the game to see if I need to stop the game

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Rap in anything but ghetto English is just silly. Ya feel me?

@Robusto I'm not really big on rap, period.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You don't need to leave the game to check your message, though.

Either assign a gesture to toggle full screen, or to expand notifications.

@Cerberus Why is it his responsibility to bestir himself to compensate for defective software?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 As an alternative, you could instruct Tasker to pronounce the name of the sender whenever you get a message while playing a game!

@Cerberus Tasker is so annoying to use though.

@Robusto It's not defective if you ask me. I normally wouldn't want the bar displayed in full screen.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Naah it's all right, you just have to get used to it a bit. It already feels intuitive to me.

@Cerberus If it behaves otherwise than expected, it's defective. QED

@Cerberus It works fine in youtube, where touching the screen makes the controls appear. But in games you can't have gestures and shit from other apps. they need exclusive control.

@Robusto But this is as expected.

Oh, you can have gestures with GMD Gesture Control.

Sounds like Mrs. Hiny is unhappy with how it behaves. I'd call that otherwise than what he expected, unless he expected it to be shitty.

Something like a 3-finger rotation never interferes with anything.

@Robusto But he happens to have great expectations.

Well, if you're trying to sit down and someone sticks a 3-finger rotation in your sitting place, it would interfere enough.

Some might say turgid.

@Cerberus Just like Dickens.

@Robusto Then you just counter-rotate, easy as pie.

@Robusto Last time I read D. was in high school...

I don't remember what his prose was like.

My point is that I like the status bar and wish I had it more, not less. I don't want to have to make it appear. I'd usually rather have it than not.

@Cerberus "My father's family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be called Pip."

Then again, there are some games where the soft buttons are a major problem. So maybe I should look into hiding htem.

@Robusto winter is fucking awesome.

Until you get bored of it. So one foot of boredom is your limit?

Winter is fucked. And the ass-muncher who drives the snowplow just realized he hadn't fully socked in the end of my driveway on his first pass so he backed up and hit it again.

@Mitch What part of tropical paradise don't you lust after?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then make it so that it automatically appears for 10 seconds when a notification appears.

@Robusto the skin cancer part

@Robusto the muddy malarial parts.

@Robusto I'm not sure what to say.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that workls itself out after a few generations.

@Mitch I don't think it does.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 In paradise nobody gets skin cancer or malaria.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah huh it does.

@Robusto exactly.

or if you do, you just take a nap.

I didn't say tropical hellhole. I said tropical paradise. There is a difference.

@Robusto Okay. If your tropical paradise is like, say, regular tropical places, but the skin doesn't burn you or age you or cause skin cancer or otherwise require you to wear piles of sunscreen, then I'm totally with you. Let's move there. now.

And that was the last we saw of Mitch, Mr. Shiny and New and Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think the place you're describing is southern Norway.

damn

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 All I'm sayin' ...

In case you're not tempted enough yet, I hear they also have flying cars in the tropical paradise.

@Robusto warm and sunny but lots of shade? wind to blow away mosquitos?

@Robusto driverless?

All those things. And no predator drones. And no politicians.

@Mitch wind doesn't work

In Aruba it's pretty frickin' windy. All the palm trees grow sideways. And there are still mosquitos.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Not in Canada it doesn't. You need an AR-15 to blow away the mosquitoes in Canada.

@Robusto Paradise would have all predator drones -all- the time. keeps you feeling cozy and secure, like in a drone blanket.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 hm...they can't stay still enough to use a magnifying glass on.

@Mitch mosquito-zapping predator drones. with frickin' laser beams.

ooh...I know. Infect all the mosquitos with plasmodia that you've already infected with a malaria virus that you have already infected with a DNA strand that instead of producing the fever-and-delirium-inducing toxic death protein, produces a fever-and-delirium-inducing toxic death protein that makes you feel really good. death optional.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that cause skin cancer.

in mosquitos

really quickly

Or breed the mosquitoes to, instead of causing itchy hives and malaria, eat skin cancer and inject sun-damage-repairing enzymes

What mosquitoes? Death, where is thy sting?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 problem solved. Now you can say goodbye, Matt.

@Mitch sounds good to me. Bye everyone!

later!

"Fudge off". Hmm. That's some strong language.