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psmears

09:58

@Cerberus Yes, it's mock Essex, or thereabouts. (And as a consequence it's "ahx", to rhyme with (non-rhotic) "parks", rather than "ox" or "ax" :-)

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Robusto

12:15

@Cerberus — Yep, doesn't bother me at all.

Cerberus

@Rob: @Rob: You are a beast!

Robusto

I never denied it.

Cerberus

True.

@PSM: Oh! I will listen to her ahx more closely next time, see whether I can distinguish it from ox...

The Raven

12:36

Hi guys - so how do create a bulleted list on stack exchange? Do I use <ul> followed by <li></li> and so forth?

Robusto

Just use a hyphen preceded by a space and followed by a space.

- this is a bullet on SE

psmears

Yep - asterisk works as well as hyphen

The Raven

Many thanks, Robusto. I'm an editor so it is painful for me to need people to come back and clean up my work.

Cerberus

I don't think it needs to have a space in front? I do think it needs a double return?

psmears

@Cerberus It's not so clear in the instances when she's talking quickly, but compare the very last time she says it with the vowel she uses in "doctor" just afterwards - that's probably the clearest way to hear the contrast :)

Cerberus

12:46

Haha I see you've studied her well!

psmears

I wouldn't want you going around speaking Essex dialect wrongly, would I? ;)

Cerberus

Of course not!

Okay most of her ahxes are closer to a. But some are a bit o-ish too I think...

psmears

When she's speaking quickly the vowels aren't that distinct...

There are more examples here (if you want to make a study of it :)

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Cerberus

Hehe I have already made a study of Lauren in general, that is, I have watched every one of her videos.

By the way, I wonder how hard the following expression is to hear for a native speaker, though not of Essex descent (probably). It is in my video, at 4:22. She says it really fast and it is rather out of context, I had to rewind several times before I got it.

Robusto

I like the part where he turns her into a doll. Point Shakespeare.

psmears

13:00

@Cerberus Do you mean the "You take the high road" comment? Or before that?

Cerberus

That. Was that hard?

psmears

No, but the song line is very well known (and associated with Scotland, naturally)

Cerberus

Oh, I see.

Cultural references at work.

psmears

Her mock-Scottish-on-top-of-mock-Essex doesn't make it any clearer I'm sure :)

Indeed

Cerberus

I did hear that she did a Scottish (or Irish as far as I could tell) accent there, yes. But I suppose it didn't help that the lines mean nothing to me.

The French one is also good.

Robusto

13:26

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psmears

@Robusto I would also have got zero on the US slang terms there...

Robusto

I would have got "chin wag" but not "chuffed"

And btw, I wouldn't have got flossed at all. Never heard it before.

psmears

That makes me feel a little better :)

Robusto

I only got "shorty" from watching TV and hearing that stupid FLo Rida song.

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I only know it from the film Tropic Thunder. It's the song Tom Cruise (as the soulless movie producer) dances to when he's trying to intimidate the agent (Michael McConnaughey).

Cerberus

13:58

Oh I know that Ellen video. I think I got none of it either.

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