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KitFox

17:00

@Robusto Now you're catching on.

You both know what I look like anyway.

So you'd know if I were fibbing.

Matt Эллен

would I? Or could it be that you've been fibbing about your appearance?

KitFox

Well, you also know my name, so you could just look.

Robusto

I don't know your name.

KitFox

But I suppose I might be clever enough to have lied about my name too.

@Robusto You don't? I thought...

goes to check something

Matt Эллен

you say I know these things, but I think I haven't been paying attention. well, except for that time you showed us those crazy photos of you with your head upside down

Robusto

17:02

No, you emailed me from an anonymous account.

Matt Эллен

I remember that

I think I know your name, but I'm not sure

KitFox

Oh. Oh right! Rob never saw my research video.

Matt Эллен

Nor have I, AFAIK

KitFox

But...I thought...well, how do you know my name then?

Matt Эллен

you posted a letter you wrote to a newspaper. I think it had your name on it

KitFox

17:05

I have gone by Kit Fox for so long, it feels like my real name.

@MattЭллен Oh right! The op-ed.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт If only! But I am glad you like it.

@Jasper Yes. And your mother.

user19161

@Cerberus Haha, I think my mum looks younger than you!

Cerberus

Possibly.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox if we ever met and you weren't a fox, I'd not recognise you.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Fair enough. I suppose it's not like you have my image burned into your memory.

Oh, there's my gravatar.

Matt Эллен

17:07

not yet...

KitFox

What do you think? Too tiny?

user19161

@MattЭллен I was thinking about why dinosaur is not historical. The conclusion is that the word dinosaur is still used today.

KitFox

If I talk a lot it might be OK.

But then I would have to not get tweened.

So the icon would expand.

Like that.

Matt Эллен

it looks good in the roster on the top right

user19161

I see @kit new gravatar.

KitFox

17:08

I stole it.

Matt Эллен

@cerberus will never see it, for he never refreshes

KitFox

I think it makes me look fancy.

Kinda famous.

user19161

@matt Do you now agree with my idea that dinosaur historical and archaic are three diff categories?

Matt Эллен

world's famous Kit Fox

user19161

I think only the Oxford lexicographers can answer this question, but I hope to guess their intention @matt.

Matt Эллен

17:09

@JasperLoy dinosaur, historical and archaic are three different categories

@JasperLoy I emailed them about 10 minutes ago

Cerberus

@MattЭллен See It?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Kit's new gravatar

user19161

@MattЭллен Oh, OK. They should give me a million pounds if my answer is correct.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy yes. that's how it works :D

Cerberus

Oh ah...

I see it on her user page. It's cute.

user19161

17:11

Wow @kit it looks very cute!

user19161

I think it is time I change mine to something else...

cornbread ninja

brainpickings.org/index.php/2011/11/01/art-of-the-hobbit @tchrist

KitFox

looks around Am I seeing something different than the rest of you? Cute seems a little overstated for this avatar.

user19161

@corn I think this cake is the best gravatar of all, other than yourself.

KitFox

The cake is a lie.

Matt Эллен

17:12

the cake is a pie!

cornbread ninja

@KitFox ooooh, I like the letters

The cake is a spy.

Matt Эллен

splat the cake will not fly

user19161

I am thinking what to change into, I am not good with gimp.

KitFox

You could have @Vitaly's avatar. He isn't using it anymore.

cornbread ninja

:(

KitFox

17:14

waits for retribution

user19161

@KitFox And you still ping him!

KitFox

He's not gone from everywhere.

cornbread ninja

old hobbits die hard.

oh.

KitFox

He could visit if he wanted to.

He probably won't hear it though. I'd probably have to super-ping him.

user19161

I would like a rainbow picture.

cornbread ninja

17:15

@KitFox the letters remind me of Cheers.

KitFox

@cornbreadninja Yes. I see that.

@JasperLoy How about a cute kitteh?

user19161

@KitFox Nah, too girly.

KitFox

user19161

Kittens are for girls. QED.

KitFox

That's how I picture you.

user19161

17:16

Is that your kitten?

KitFox

No.

Matt Эллен

KitFox

That's from the Aww room, I think.

Matt Эллен

see, it's manly because it has a gun

KitFox

I have a spider I could let you have.

user19161

17:17

Guns are for wusses.

user19161

Someone said "this is the time to be strong, not to act strong" Who?

user19161

Hmm, maybe it was from a movie...

Cerberus

@KitFox OMG this looks so much like you!

cornbread ninja

Cerberus

Awww.

user19161

17:19

@cornbreadninja That one looks like you.

Matt Эллен

the cats came marching two by two

cornbread ninja

MετάEd

Do I have to post cats playing patty-cake?

Because I will ...

Matt Эллен

oh, sorry, that's a rabbit

cornbread ninja

@MετάEd you do now.

Cerberus

17:23

@MattЭллен Yes, clearly. The left one or the right one?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus the one on the right!

cornbread ninja

@MattЭллен is that Fred Mertz?

Cerberus

Yes, yes.

Matt Эллен

I can't remember the man's name

Cerberus

I actually remember her from cartoons. Horrible.

Matt Эллен

17:24

Jessica Rabbit

cornbread ninja

I mean William Frawley.

Matt Эллен

Married to Roger Rabbit.

that picture caused scandal in toon town

Cerberus

Gasp.

Matt Эллен

I forget you don't watch films, @Cerb :D

Cerberus

Your memory is so bad!

Matt Эллен

17:27

Is it? I forget.

MartyIX

Hi, how is pronounced "and/or"? "and[short pause]or" or "and slash or"? Thanks

Cerberus

Usually without "slash", I would say.

But with "slash" is also OK.

MartyIX

thank you ;)

Cerberus

Are you really 93?

MartyIX

nope :)

I guess the "slash" issue would not really matter then if I was :o)

Cerberus

17:31

Heh.

Perhaps not.

user19161

I just avoid using and/or altogether. I think it looks stupid in ordinary writing.

MartyIX

I'm 25. And it seems it is the age when people lose much of their dreams. haha

user19161

Your dreams will return some day. You can also wait till your future life to fulfill them if you believe in rebirth.

MartyIX

@JasperLoy I'm just reading an scientific paper. In my opinion the expression is useful in mathematics.

*a

user19161

@MartyIX In mathematical texts, you will almost never see and/or.

user19161

17:35

That is because or is always used in the inclusive sense there.

MartyIX

I do not believe in rebirth. So I hope in the first option

user19161

Hope keeps us alive.

MartyIX

*hope for

dammit :)

user19161

There can be miracles when you believe. --- Mariah Carey

MartyIX

Well, look at her body. It's easier to do miracles then :)

Actually, I believe the life will turn out to be good but it will take a lof of work.

user19161

17:39

The above line by Mariah Carey may be dismissed by some as rubbish.

user19161

But it actually makes sense for suitable interpretations.

user19161

However, the margin of this chat is too narrow for me to elaborate.

Matt Эллен

use a smaller font

user19161

I leave you to figure out how it makes sense as your homework children.

MartyIX

I made joke of it but I truly believe in what she said

@MattЭллен who?

Matt Эллен

17:41

look what just came up on my facebook stream...

user19161

@MartyIX Me.

Matt Эллен

@MartyIX Jasper

user19161

@MattЭллен As with all words, they need to be interpreted in context.

MartyIX

Hmm, I don't see any difference in messages' fonts

user19161

@MartyIX Never mind, you don't get his joke.

MartyIX

17:43

ah, I get it now

user19161

Mariah's line is all about the interplay between two concepts: willpower and destiny.

user19161

Some say life is determined by willpower, not destiny.

user19161

Others say life is determined by destiny, not willpower.

MartyIX

It is willpower for me

user19161

I say willpower determines what you do and destiny determines what you get.

user19161

17:45

Again, this is too deep for me to elaborate in this chat. I leave it as an exercise for the reader.

user19161

@mah Boo!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hi.

MartyIX

I tried the willpower once on climbing wall. I was totally exhausted, my hands ached. But something in my mind switched and I was able to climb to the top. This is a stupid example because sport is not really that important in life but it demonstrated the power of willpower to me.

Andrew Leach

@MattЭллен Miracles can happen in defiance of learning and science.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-11325433

Matt Эллен

that's one thing you can call it.

user19161

17:55

Even science is belief.

user19161

Why do we think something will happen? Because we make predictions based on observations.

KitFox

Hey @Matt, I was hailing you. Did you not hear me?

Matt Эллен

sorry! no

KitFox

Don't you know how demanding I am?

MετάEd

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Matt Эллен

17:58

@KitFox I should by now

user19161

@MattЭллен Where are you two hiding?

Matt Эллен

I'm here, in the plain open

@MετάEd rofl

user19161

I know what to use as my new gravatar now, wait a moment...

Matt Эллен

waits a moment more

user19161

@kit See my lovely new picture @matt

Matt Эллен

18:11

awwww

KitFox

Is it a new shade of blue?

user19161

@KitFox No.

KitFox

OMG ur a chikin!

user19161

Indeed, Chicken Little is one of my nicknames.

Matt Эллен

I need to get some foodz. bbl

Cerberus

18:41

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Hmm they have really improved Susan Boyle's looks.

She now looks normal.

With a couple more pounds off, she can look great, I think.

It is of course pop music, but her voice is good.

KitFox

From 3 years ago?

I don't know who those people are.

Oh the music burns us.

Cerberus

You don't know Susan Boyle?

She was very famous in pop culture. Ugly woman (semi-Down, she looked) with a magnificent voice, in this talent-hunt show.

I can't believe I know this.

I only followed a link once.

And now this was under related videos on YT.

Related to Ed's pattycake cats.

TRiG

@JasperLoy Do you keep your head surprisingly still?

cornbread ninja

@MετάEd oh yeah, that! :D

KitFox

in The Overlook Hotel, 29 mins ago, by KitFox

Hey, the article is done: Writing Erotica.

TRiG

18:57

Chicken time!. @JasperLoy.

user19161

@TRiG I was summoned by your ping!

TRiG

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@JasperLoy Hello again.

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