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18:00
i don't actually speak Hebrew, but i've failed to learn it three times
i can at least read the alphabet
hi @Kit! how was your thanksgiving?
Great! I read your blog post. Sounds like you had much to be thankful for.
thanks
did you have family or anything over?
My brother-in-law and his new girlfriend.
and that went well?
Both of them were having Thanksgiving without their kids.
18:02
hmhmmm. that sounds sad
my brother and his wife and kids came over
their kids are the exact same ages as ours. less than one month difference for each of them.
We'll have Christmas with all of the kids.
It's our first time meeting her boys.
are they pretty serious?
@JSBձոգչ That's cool. Both my boys are three months younger than their cousins.
@JSBձոգչ Um. Apparently.
I like her quite a bit, although to be honest, almost anyone is better than his ex.
@KitFox you said "new girlfriend", which leaves a pretty wide spectrum of relationship stages they could be in
But I think they are going way too fast, and I think she's the one pressing the gas.
18:04
the day after my brother left, Sebi asks me "Is Uncle Jared coming over again tomorrow?"
it was adorable
Oh, sweet.
My sons were both sad that their uncle and his friend had to go home.
@cornbread. Seriously. Get rid of that dude.
He's been hanging around for weeks and it's weirding me out.
@KitFox I can't seem to shake him.
@cornbreadninja Vit had a solution. Let me see if I can find it. It has to do with the ratings.
@KitFox k. I never did delete all and re-upload as Jasper suggested.
Vit told me that this chat retrieves the PG-rated gravatar.
Or something. Switch the rating to PG on the one you want.
I think. Was what fixed it.
Apr 23 at 19:52, by Vitaly
@KitFox So what happens if you rate your spider gravatar as PG?
18:09
Will do!
Here's where we talked about it.
But I didn't really document it well.
On my Thanksgiving visit, I learned all about all the medications that people can take. Because they're taking them.
some of my curds are floating. that seems a little odd.
There's a medication for that.
@Mitch oh, fun! no one in my family takes medications, because jesus told us not to.
18:12
@JSBձոգչ Which way is worse?!!
i don't know. ask jesus.
He never calls back.
Kinda uncool.
@JSBձոգչ which whey?
My mom doesn't take medications because it's other people who are crazy and anyway it is just a way for doctors to make money.
(actually, we do take medication. my mom would have died when i was a little kid if it weren't for Cortisone.)
@cornbreadninja whey over there.
18:13
@KitFox I like the 'other people are crazy'...because they are.
@KitFox i like the cut of your mom's jib
She told me she didn't see the point in going to a therapist because she would know all the right things to say anyway because she took psych 101 in college.
okay, so the more i cook them, the more the curds are rising. i suppose this is normal?
And when I was suicidally depressed, she said I should eat more potatoes.
but normally when you cook curds they fall to the bottom because they're expelling water and getting more
whatever. i give up understanding my cheese.
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@KitFox when i was depressed, my parents told me to cheer up.
but i don't hold it against them. none of us had any idea what we were doing.
18:15
Yeah, except my mom is crazy.
You know how in the retro Jetson's vision of the future, all we would hav to do is take a 'meal' pill and get all our nutrients? But that is obviously not a good thing for your GI tract: lack of fiber, low motility, atrophy from lack of use, leading to bowel ischemia and worse.
And who wants to take a pill?
@JSBձոգչ no whey!
Eating is such a joyous experience.
Something to be savored. And something we should give thanks for.
i would reject your protien pills even if they existed
@KitFox amen
18:17
I had the best filet mignon ever a couple of night ago.
But we've solved that...take a bucket load of meds, you get fiber and mass and frankly alot of carbs (in the filler and coating of the pills). add in a multivitamin and you're set for a full (but yes, light) meal.
> Operation is not valid due to the current state of the object.
What the hell?
I've never gotten that error before.
@JSBձոգչ well some advice is idiotic. but you can't tell it's idiotic til afterwards. it's hard to know the right thing (takes lots of study to get to the simple right thing).
InvalidOperationException
usually the error message gives you some detail
@Mitch nonono, see the food would expand in your stomach. the first batch of pills killed seven interns. also you'd have to chew to get the reactions going
18:19
> The URL-encoded form data is not valid.
@Mitch right. there are lots of things that we did at that stage in my life which are retroactively horrifying, but none of us really knew what we were doing
But it really ought to be the same as with paging on.
@MattЭллен the capsule replacing my wisdom tooth...hm...tastes like almonds...
oops, that was the radio transmitter.
And who the hell truly believes that eating potatoes is going to help?
@JSBձոգչ wait, you're still talking about cheese right?
18:20
@KitFox well... a lot of mood disorders are related to diet
@Mitch of course :)
No, you don't—it's just—you'd have to talk to her to understand.
@Mitch oh dear. no you've done it. Google wil have to come round and fit a new one.
@KitFox don't be -so- dismissive. dumb things like exercise really do (clinically) help with depression, even severe.
@Cerberus What is the second letter in from the left on the bottom row in my picture above? Thanks.
18:21
43 secs ago, by KitFox
No, you don't—it's just—you'd have to talk to her to understand.
@tchrist lower-case q?
double-stem 'q', duh
@MattЭллен thank god. then I can tell them about changin my age to 'older that 13' so I can search for pron legally.
@KitFox i have a decent idea. i have another friend whose mother is famous for giving out epically bad advice, including things like eating nothing but pineapple juice to address a serious medical condition
@tchrist 'it's a paragraph in a right to left font
@JSBձոգչ I have that medical condition!
Liking pineapple juice!
18:23
Did you ever read the writing exercise I did that was just a dialog?
Can't be.
Let me find it.
and she complains that none of her children take her suggestions seriously any more
That’s the complete repertoire.
I do not know what the glyph fifth from the end is meant to represent.
18:25
@JSBձոգչ shudder Oh you mean things your parents had you do? also shudder All I remember from childhood is severe sunburns. That's the first thing doctors ask you, then they go all quiet, and then ask if I have a will.
@Mitch Not some kind of pilcrow?
@JSBձոգչ The q looks different in that font.
There is some special a that @Cerb mentioned. That’s why I’ve asked.
this is true. it's a lovely font, by the way
hey! i just realized why my curds are rising!
it's because i'm almost to the end of this jug of milk, which means that my milk has more cream in it than normal
@JSBձոգչ It’s the “Kells SD” font, a true uncial.
so these curds are mostly cream
18:28
Are you making poutin?
@KitFox This. What's annoying is 1) not everybody is like that, so why can't my mom -not- be like that. 2) It ain't gonna change, just moreso. 3) It sounds like real speech so after every sentence, you're prepared to respond, but it keeps going as they walk into another room.
@cornbreadninja No. Putin.
@Mitch ...or if you walk into another room.
@Robusto you only get out what you Putin.
Vladimir Putain.
18:29
gasp
matt is gone from the chat roster
Don't be such a Puritain.
@KitFox oh..that makes sense though, because you obviously have something to do while talking to her, you're just multitasking.
How come I can't get no tang round here?
@cornbreadninja right now i'm making monterey jack
Ta-da! @cornbreadninja is back!
18:30
@JSBձոգչ oooooooooooh
@KitFox she was already my only PG-rated avatar.
Interesting.
aaah. Now he's gone from the chat box, too.
@Kit When you delete those Tourette’s postings, could you please edit out the grossness, too? Thanks.
@WillHunting wonder no more.
@Mitch She's insane. Well, not insane. Just really dumb.
@tchrist Oh. Sure.
18:32
@MattЭллен You mean like epoxy? jots down idea for cholera treatment
Do you actually read them?
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Q: "Planning for next year" vs. "planning for the next year"

Michael Goldshteyn I would like to start planning for next year. In the above sentence, there is no definite article before the words next year. Should it be present, as in the following sentence which sounds far less natural to me? I would like to start planning for the next year. Or, is it more proper ...

Do you think John Lawler dreamt, when he was growing up, that he would one day be able to field questions like these?
@KitFox I see them. @Reg edits them out. I’ve just now taken care of yours for you. Thanks.
@KitFox You realize of course that everybody in the world has exactly those same thoughts running through their heads, just most of us have a filter.
@tchrist Well, I wouldn't call it mine. Something that lovely really belongs to the whole community.
18:34
Yes, right. Sorry.
@Mitch No, most people have a higher level of thinking.
But also, she speaks stream-of-consciousnessly.
@KitFox it's not a problem if it doesn't affect daily living (by definition of 'problem')
Well, given her level of indebtedness, I think she does in fact have a real problem.
@KitFox also, I've given myself away. but really, I don't have those exact same thoughts.
And that few people can stand to be around her for any period of time.
Trust me. She's bonkers. Or stupid. Or both.
She's a conspiracy theorist and the kind of "skeptic" who likes to fabricate crazy stuff just to suggest that scientists are all about conspiring.
You should hear her theories on why the perpetual motion machine that she saw on YouTube is universally declaimed as a hoax by scientists.
18:40
@KitFox let's just say I was visiting some old people this past weekend, who were, for the sake of argument, 'institutionalized', some of the people there would say in the politest way possible, some pretty revolting epithets. Now it's a family joke! Yay! that we can't repeat. Ever!
"Declaimed" is not the word I am looking for.
@KitFox nothing against your mother, but that kind of skepticism is annoying. it's the effing scientists who were the skeptics first, you can't one-up them with more skepticism. They're the ones who are disbelieving for you.
Oh, everything against my mother.
@Mitch I'm sorry, I am trying, but I can't quite figure out how to put this sentence together.
@KitFox I kinda thin that the corn-oil industry is a conspiracy. not on purpose like with be pollen spreading fluoridated hallicinogens to make you think you're taking the elevator when there really are only stairs because the power grid fell apart decades ago.
@KitFox ha ha! I'm showing my age!
Oh god. You are like my mother, aren't you? You're just trying to break it to me gently.
Oh. Except that would make you not like my mother.
18:45
I mean t to say that some old lady at the nursing home we visited said, on hearing where we (the visitors) came from, said (pardon the repeated 'said', I do that in case you forgot) said 'Oh you come from the ** place'.
It's fairly easy to be crazy. I can very easily indulge in myself a form of paranoia. It's kind of like taking psychedelic drugs: fun maybe but something I don't do because of the madness.
@Mitch Oh. I see.
That's awkward.
So maybe Mitch finds it easy to be crazy too.
@KitFox also, it's a test of your ability to parse comlex sentences. a test of neurological facility. which of course you failed.
I used to be a neuroscientist. I am well aware of the implications of my failure.
18:46
@MετάEd That's not funny.
oops...that would be 'easy to be humorless'
@Mitch Good. I wasn't trying to be funny.
I think we are all borderline something.
Mom's just borderline.
@MετάEd 'borderline' has a very definite technical meaning, which is not what you think.
I feel bad for her sometimes, but mostly I don't have any contact with her anymore.
@KitFox Yeah, I could only think (because I couldn't say it in front of the kids) was 'Wow, how did she know?'
18:48
@KitFox That's gotta be hard. I took an apartment with a guy who turned out to be paranoid and have violent psychotic episodes, and that was tough and scary enough, but I could move out.
realtime, real time, or real-time (context is continuous live monitoring)
@KitFox If it makes you feel any better, we're all just automatons.
@rlemon It depends.
@Mitch We Are Individuals! We Think For Ourselves!
@MετάEd added context
@rlemon Answer is the same.
18:49
@MετάEd Oh. Ouch.
well then, depends on what?
@MετάEd I am unique!
@MετάEd Well, she's not that bad. But she knows how to dig. And if you aren't focusing on her, she'll find some way to make you pay attention. I almost killed her once.
@rlemon Depends on where in the sentence. "The system collects data in real time", but "the system collects real-time data".
ahhh i see i see
18:50
Hey, where's the question that deals with hyphenation of compound adjectives?
@KitFox Right, she knows where all your buttons are.
Benefits:
- Real-time information on the system process
........^ correct usage of the hyphen?
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Q: When is it necessary to use a hyphen in writing a compound word?

kiamlalunoSome words are written without hyphens (nonaggression, nonbeliever), and some words are written with a hyphen (well-intentioned). Is there a schema in the use of a hyphen?

@rlemon Looks reasonable to me.
^ good man!
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Q: To hyphenate or not?

DelipAs a non-native speaker of English and an engineer by training, I always get confused about hyphenation and almost always end up referring to Google every time I need to make that decision. Does anybody know of a concise, comprehensive style guide to hyphenation that explains this rather complex...

18:51
@KitFox Thank you! @rlemon Check out the articles Kit's posting.
That one might be better.
@KitFox your mom most likely does not have this:
Borderline personality disorder (BPD) (called emotionally unstable personality disorder, borderline type in the ICD-10) is a personality disorder marked by a prolonged disturbance of personality function, characterized by unusual variability and depth of moods. These moods may secondarily affect cognition and interpersonal relations. The disorder typically involves an unusual degree of instability in mood and black-and-white thinking, or splitting. BPD often manifests itself in idealization and devaluation episodes and chaotic and unstable interpersonal relationships, issues with self-i...
@Mitch I know what it is. My ex-sister-in-law has that. My mom doesn't rage in quite the same way, but it's not too far off.
Sadly this sounds exactly like someone who's not taking a breakup very well.
@Mitch It's a good bet, and in fact you'd win.
18:53
@MετάEd a good bet is one where the other person thinks they're gonna when, but most likely won't.
I always thought she was closer to schizotypal personally.
@Mitch Hence "prolonged". The disorders in the DSM are typically qualified with terms like that, or "chronic".
so you can lay a lot of money down/
@Mitch Good point.
@MετάEd really -bad- long term relationship breakup? Does that count as moving the goal posts?
18:56
@Mitch I have had relationship breakup depression that lasted a long time, but I wouldn't call it chronic.
19:06
@MετάEd the part that I (superficially) see in the 'borderline' article that is reminiscent of bad relationship breakup is the volatility/manipulation, just a superficial recognition.
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Q: The meaning of question 'Blended thought trains?'

Chad TimenI has a college task to create a review of the paper, and in the review form it has question : Blended thought trains ? Please help me what the meaning of that question .. ?

I has a problem with this.
May 14 at 14:36, by Robusto
user image
Why would paging affect my linkbuttons?
Nice.
Ballsack closed, please use other side
19:16
Ballsack experiencing unexpected congestion. Expect delays ahead.
@KitFox someone's choking the vas deferens.
@cornbreadninja Vas the deferens?
@Robusto Vlad the Impaler.
@KitFox De lays are always welcome. Delays are not.
Yes, I love chips.
19:19
@cornbreadninja That was just his gay porn name.
De Molays?
@MετάEd You are not 12-21 and you do not acknowledge a higher power. So forget about it.
When your tongue is afire like a high-tension wire, that's a molé.
@Robusto I probably am getting close (in dog years).
19:23
You are not DeMolay material. Sorry.
There's a bite on your toes and you can't feel your nose, that's a moray.
I hate to be the one to break it to you.
When the sitter is in and she's guilty as sin, that's De Mornay.
giggles
When your suitor is tall and he's from Montréal, that's amour, eh.
19:31
bwa!
a a a a a a a a a a that's some more a
Fixed it.
Broke it again.
When there's something you do that is not quite taboo, that's a more.
If you're drinking your brew and it's quite like a stew, that's a Guinness.
Shit. That doesn't rhyme properly.
But it does make me want an oatmeal porter.
yeah, carrying oatmeal around is such a chore
19:39
giggles That's awful.
And I haven't been able to write today either.
Too much real work interfering.
booo to real work
I should be writing write now
They are questioning the pizza guy. I just can't seem to get the details right in my head anyway.
Imagine them all naked. that should calm your nerves
19:41
Sure. I could always write a crazy sex scene. That sells anyway.
sooner or later I'm going to have to write the surprise sex scene
There is surprise sex?
and with but 6k to go, it will be sooner
@KitFox When you say crazy sex ... I'm kind of thinking now of a psychotic sex episode.
yes, Sergius and Lucilia.
19:43
But there's no way I could write it.
I mean it's been alluded to
@MετάEd Hmm. That could be really interesting.
but it's the last horrible part before the end
@KitFox I can give you the address for royalty checks.
I can give you an address for royal chicks
19:44
@MattЭллен Is it the sex that's horrible?
@KitFox surprise sex is a euphemism
I avoided saying rape
and murder
Well, you could always say she enjoyed it.
At least she doesn't have to worry about getting knocked up that way.
true, true
she does like a good fight
19:47
OK. I'm going to stick this on production and see what happens.
fingers crossed
the cheese is in the press
fingers crossed
yup. and i almost forgot to add the pepper.
it ain't pepper jack without the pepper
20:03
Haha. I forgot to add the sproc.
sprocs are like pepper
Kinda.
They make my eyes water.
Now it is all red.
Oh, what's this? My project lead is sharing a Google Doc of user submitted comments.
What a jack-off.
Submit it to wikileaks and blame him
20:16
Damn it. My left-hand nav isn't expanding.
maybe you misspelled a css class?
Misspelling doon’t matter. Ask John Lawler.
Ah, Joan Lorelore.
such a prolific answerer
@MattЭллен Maybe...I have a min-height set to 420px. Oh. But I add the tree afterward, so it probably doesn't know to grow. I wonder how I fix that?
add water and miracle grow...
I don't know, sorry
20:39
How would I get elements closer together? The hyperlinks seem compressible.
set the margin to 0
also set the padding to 0 if there is any
Shit. It is rendering it with a little inbetween div.
So I am going to have to frig with the control.
I'm trying to think of a phrase for "ran after" but it's more like "he made chase" but it's not that, because that's not a thing. any idea what I'm trying to think of?
oh, maybe it's made chase...
He gave chase. He hoofed it. Hmm. Can you give me a fill-in-the-blank?
gave chase! yes! thanks :)
21:16
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Q: Shorten a paragraph

Irishgirl Most Deaf people are bilingual. They may know the written (or for some, the spoken) form of their national/regional (spoken) language. Many also may know another signed language. How can I shorten this to 27 words? That mean reduce one word. But all is good as above?

simchona already killed it
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UbuntuGNOME 12.10 has frozen on me 4 times since installation. This is a sign that Ubuntu is going downhill.
@JSBձոգչ but I had something witty to say...
> Remove 'Deaf'. That'll make it fit just right
doing other people's homework can be fun.
@WillHunting I don't use computers anymore. They suck.
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@Mitch I need 300 more to reach 25k, after which I will retire.
I don't want to retire you, yet it would be rude to ignore a request...
21:21
@KitFox Here is John McPhee making a comment on the topic: "Don's father, Arthur Ainsworth, was born in Lancashire, and came to Canada, and then to western New York, near Rochester, after the Second World War. He became the editor-in-chief of Screw Machine Engineering, a magazine whose name a hyphen would have improved."
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@JSBձոգչ wow and the Irishgirls's other one deleted quickly too. How will she know that she shouldn't be posting editing questions?
@WillHunting done. or part way there at least.
user19161
Why are they called hyperlinks and not just links?
user19161
Are there hypolinks and epilinks as well?
user19161
@Mitch Now you can't delete your account, or it will all fall apart!
user19161
22:01
This chat is dead.
You killed it.
Bad Jasper. Baaaaaad.
And now it's time to commute!
@Mitch I left a comment. It'll still hit her inbox.
@Robusto It wasn't me, I swear.
22:37
I am the One True Chatkillah.
your face is back to normal!
:D
I punched Gravatar is all.
good work! It needed putting in its place.
They've got a Christmas version of Matt (I think) now.
:D
so they do
what a cheesey face!
22:47
I can't decide whether he looks less like a d-bag.
nice magnolia, though.
:D
I must away to bed, I'm afraid. 'tis late for me!
good night.
D'you think he cut his hair or just stuffed it under that hat?
good night to you!
looks like a cut
his facial hair is trim too
toodles!
user19161
22:53
@corn I think that person in the pic doesn't look like you at all!
user19161
@argon Why have you come here again?
@WillHunting No reason :)
@WillHunting I should take a picture wherein I imitate this one.
@WillHunting nobility
user19161
@cornbreadninja On second thoughts, with a wig and some makeup you could look like that.
@cornbreadninja I have already heard enough Argon jokes for a lifetime... :)
user19161
22:55
@cornbreadninja Let me tell you a secret, Argon likes to come here to post his Integral Of The Day!
@WillHunting that's . . . radical
Or irrational.
oh, XP . . .
Yes, my install came on 3 1/2 inch floppy and CD, and it all came in a 5 1/4 box.
@cornbreadninja Hey! No mocking my XP!
@Cerberus I <3 XP.
user19161
22:59
I think Windows 8 looks really nice, those who wana upgrade should get it!
@tchrist I don't know, isn't that simply the paragraph sign? Can't think of anything else.
@cornbreadninja Yay!
@Cerberus I've recently resurrected a computer I call Babytop.

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