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I'm not clear to me how "the negative of 'I usually eat breakfast'" differs from "not eating breakfast is what I usually do." Do you mean to imply that not eating breakfast is the only action (or non-action) the person takes? — Robusto 30 secs ago
Someone might want to have a look at this. I can't make head nor tail of his difficulty.
03:02
Are they trying to do the contrapositive?
The negation of I usually eat breakfast is of course merely I don't usually eat breakfast. I have no idea what this person's confusion is, perhaps because it's past my bedtime.
Or perhaps they're just confused after all.
All that inversion contrapositive stuff is just so many LSD nightmares.
Yes, I'm just too tired to think, or perhaps not to overthink, because the next questions is equally perplexing.
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Q: Is this usage of "at" grammatically correct?

josevilleIs this usage of "at" grammatically correct? On behalf of the Columbia, South Carolina team at American Red Cross, I'd like to thank you for your generous donation. "the Columbia, South Carolina team of the American Red Cross" sounds better to me, but is the version with "at" also correct? And ...

 
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@CowperKettle Looks like an artist drew it.
06:05
@vikas It’s a horse-drawn carriage-;
@Mitch Yeah, my mom only made it a few times. But it cost maybe 50 cents at the commissary, so I made it all the time, in the '80s. My mom was too busy cooking to teach us how to cook.
@Mitch I brought Nesquik in a plastic bag to school. Absolutely would not drink white milk. Told my parents it tasted like there was blood and pee in it. LOL. I still think Maola may have some pee in it. IDK why.
06:38
In general, I don't usually make sweeping remarks, but generally, I'm not a prisoner to detail. It released me a long time ago, due to limited space.
Sometimes generalizations are just lies…
Would someone just translate all the weird words in 'Peaky Blinders'?
IDK why I decided to finish this series…
It just seemed more wholesome all of a sudden.
Do we have an Icelandic English expert yet?
I watched TV by accident today
It's frightening
Are we annexing or colonizing?
Hawaiians hate us. Sure do.
IDK how the cold affects people.
 
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@HippoSawrUs Historically the US just buys for cash.
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I scored 748/1000🎗️

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@jlliagre Not quite a statistical tie. A couple of those had no clues as to location. How do you tell where a ship is in the world if all you can see is the deck, and damn little of that?
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Connections
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Damned if I would have ever guessed purple first on this one.
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@Robusto Same with me; never heard the purple category before. Other words are also tricky because they can apply to multiple category (i.e. red herrings); my first guess was spoiler, confirmed by their Connection Bot which says that 19% made the same mistake.
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@GratefulDisciple I'm going to coin a phrase here to describe Connections categories that are NWT3K: "Not Worth the Trouble to Know." That certainly describes today's purple.
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@tchrist Thank you for the explanation; it's very helpful to see how you would apply historical citations and dictionary meanings into elucidating grammatical peculiarities. Plus it's rather inspiring to dig further into connection with evolution of Latin grammar. It's a field where as newbie I probably need learn if I go back to school for AI NLP.
@Robusto Completely agree with you there. The author (or the peer reviewers) must have invested interest in that category, or 2) simply desperate to try to find a connection, or 3) used a LLM bot to make that category for them.
@tchrist Knowing that Augustine was very well trained in Latin rhetoric (influenced by Virgil and Cicero), it would be interesting if Augustine was mangling (?) classical Latin motivated by the pathos he wanted to express in his sermons, or in his Confessions that is rightly regarded as the first Western autobiography.
15:07
> As the crypto boosters like to say, hold on for dear life. “A lot of bankers, they’re dancing in the street,” Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase said at a conference in Peru last year. Maybe they should be. The bankers are never the ones left holding the bag.
@Robusto The house always win?
That's another way of putting it, yes.
@Robusto Unless they are deemed "too big too fail" and got billions of bailout, which arguably can be a "moral hazard" that bankers sometimes cite hypocritically toward forgiving loans.
But then (not knowing much about finance) if the new administration supports crypto it would be a disaster for even less accountability and transparency. Better bail out banks rather than crypto.
@GratefulDisciple That's the point of the comment, and the whole article as well.
@GratefulDisciple Exactly.
@Robusto Oh, didn't see the subtitle yet until I clicked on it. Will read the article later.
15:25
@Robusto I guess some people would recognize the other guy and deduce the country and possibly which port the ship might be docked at.
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15:39
> Powerful front page from L'Humanité on Jean Marie Le Pen: 'His Profession Was Hatred'. The dagger pictured was recovered at the scene of the brutal torture and murder of Ahmed Moulay in Algiers in 1957. One of multiple pieces of evidence showing Le Pen was a torturer.
@GratefulDisciple Augustine is the oldest surviving attestation; it's unlikely that he invented the word himself.
@alphabet That's fair. Obviously I'm a newbie when it comes to the primary sources of post-classical Latin (is that the right term?). My lay "expertise" (as an amateur theologian) is more on the primary sources of Christianity.
@jlliagre Nice job on that one.
"Positive, adj.: Mistaken at the top of one's voice." ---Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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@Robusto Not on that one though.
16:05
@GratefulDisciple It is an odd word, though; I can't see the relation to cernere.
Aug. Conf. 5.10:
> talem itaque naturam eius nasci non posse de Maria virgine arbitrabar, nisi carni concerneretur. concerni autem et non coinquinari non videbam, quod mihi tale figurabam.
@alphabet Google search led me directly to the page in Loeb Classical Library, helpful to see the English side by side, though the translation is far from literal.
16:55
@HippoSawrUs For one summer my mom got me Lender's frozen bagels and baloney for me to make my lunch every day. To this day, I really don't like baloney. Lender's Bagels are fine though.
Why am I telling you this? I have no idea.
But I never had rice-a-roni or mac and cheese as a kid.
>_>
'come on, no mac and cheese?
@HippoSawrUs 1) that's clever. Powdered Nesquik I presume, not already mixed in with milk? I've never understood milk-in-a-bag. Seems precarious.
@handan_toddler look man I could complain but I wasn't buying the groceries.
Very few kids do, man.
@Xanne Erich Fromm's book "To Have or To Be" seems to be the source of the ELU question. So I was mistaken, the hypothesis is about 'be' and not 'make'. But I think it would be fun to look at several languages and their histories and how they use have, be, make, whatever, in the relevant idioms and how (or if) they changed.
@handan_toddler Well, you can use that to answer your own question "Come on, no mac and cheese?".
17:13
@Mitch do you not eat it as an adult either
@handan_toddler also no. that stuff is nasty.
that ain't cheese, that's the dust scraped from the sides of a petroleum refinery, then painted orange.
You don't like the flavor of cheese?
@handan_toddler if by 'cheese' you are referring to byproducts of petrochemical and plastics manufacture, then no.
@Mitch that's true for ALL junk food
@handan_toddler To be fair, the 'cheese' used in the manufacture of Flamin Hot Cheetos is a gift from the gods.
The heart wants what the heart wants.
A foolish inconsistency is the hobgoblin of those who don't like Flamin Hot Cheetos.
17:19
That's why I said "flavor."
I don't like the flavor of that kraft mac and 'cheese'.
I also don't like the flavor of smoked Gouda. I've tried to like it, but it keeps reminding me that I don't like it.
@Mitch Yes, it was Nestle's Quik then, powder in a tin instead of plastic.
@HippoSawrUs I highly recommend to your childhood self to try Ovaltine. I was too old when I first had it to enjoy as a kid.
17:24
@Mitch Not a fan of the malt.
If there was time travel, people always say they'd go back and kill baby hitler, or give penicillin to stop the Black Plague (OK no one ever says that last one but I had to add something for balance).
But Nesquik mixed in vanilla ice cream is still my favorite.
If I had time travel I'd go back to my youth and give myself Ovaltine. Also to tell myself to wear more sunscreen.
@HippoSawrUs I'm sorry.
@HippoSawrUs I liked to mix in cornflakes or rice crispies into chocolate ice cream.
@Mitch Mexican restaurant MiCasita uses cornflakes to make "fried ice cream"
like faux fried ice cream
It was that or the flan
Not crazy about flan, ew
the custard with caramel thing, gross
@Mitch Your young self would still do as he pleased. "What do you know, you're old!"
17:35
@Robusto ...and then kick me in the shins and run away. "I'll get you , you little bastard!"
@Mitch I miss Lender's Soft frozen bagels
What happened to them?
They were the best
@HippoSawrUs Still frozen? underneath the frozen lasagna, you know, just in case.
I can't find them
@HippoSawrUs Google says they're still sold at grocery stores. Maybe just not the ones around you?
Did you say something?
I've been eating these dense bagels for what, 30 years now?
17:37
@Mitch And then do donuts on your lawn with his lowrider bike.
@HippoSawrUs I've really never understood what fried ice cream is supposed to be.
@Robusto Goddam that kid. He'll find out.
I just want a soft bagel without worrying about misappropriating someone's culture
Do I complain when people add sugar to grits?
Of course I do; that's just ridiculous.
But I'd rather have soft bagels. If I could go back in time…or just move wherever.
I just redefined misappropriate
Maybe, IDK
@HippoSawrUs OK, Miss Appropriate, have it your way.
@Mitch No whey, dude!
@Robusto keep milking it
18:08
How come I can't find -ed as a suffix meaning having, as in talented or skilled?
ELL calls it a past (passive) participle
That can't be right…
IDK, I give up
Closed anyway
 
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@HippoSawrUs The participle can function as an adjective.
 
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I don't know, this "Extreme" Octordle seems somehow easier to me.
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@Robusto But from nouns?
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@HippoSawrUs Nouns can be verbed.
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@Robusto Yes, the question is about ones ending in -ed that can't or, rather, aren't currently used as verbs (not in the usual sense). No specific name for that, I guess.
I guess some are leftovers from archaic verbs.
And IDK which came first, the chicken or the egg.
Maybe both
I find it hard to believe that every adjective ending in -ed has a root that was a verb before
But all I see people come up with is latter-half body parts: toed, legged, armed, hearted, etc.
three-toed, short-legged, long-armed, hard-hearted, etc.
Where -ed means having, not providing with
That is, M-W's definition of skilled, not OL&G's
Oxford Languages and Google
I got that abbreviation from here
Then I left and eventually came back, and you all forgot the abbreviation you made up in the interim
I'm busy baking and eating muffins and sewing pillow buddies and such
I'm not a wild abbreviation-maker
JSYK
Correction: I gather some are leftovers from archaic verbs (from answers).

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