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jlliagre

00:06

I just learnt this Italian word: stoccafisso.

Cerberus

Hmm it doesn't sound very nice?

jlliagre

Can you guess its meaning?

jlliagre

00:19

@Cerberus Let me rephrase that. You can guess its meaning! :-)

Cerberus

Hah.

In Latin, fissus means cloven, fissured.

Stocca could be...a stick?

Cloven by inserting a stick?

jlliagre

Stick: almost, same root very likely.

Cloven, no.

Cerberus

Hmm.

I don't know any Italian.

What could fisso be?

jlliagre

You don't need to :-)

Cerberus

Unless it is afisso?

Or is it...stokvis?

jlliagre

00:24

Not Italian.

@Cerberus Bingo!

Cerberus

That is funny indeed.

I don't exactly know what the Dutch word means, and of course it is not used any more.

Must be a kind of fish.

Probably some preparation of it?

jlliagre

> Le terme originel néerlandais stokvis est construit à partir des mots stok, « bâton », et vis, « poisson », car ce dernier est souvent suspendu sur des treillages en bois.

Stockfish

Stockfish is unsalted fish, especially cod, dried by cold air and wind on wooden racks (which are called "hjell" in Norway) on the foreshore. The drying of food is the world's oldest known preservation method, and dried fish has a storage life of several years. The method is cheap and effective in suitable climates; the work can be done by the fisherman and family, and the resulting product is easily transported to market. Over the centuries, several variants of dried fish have evolved. The stockfish (fresh dried, not salted) category is often mistaken for the klippfisk, or salted cod, category...

Cerberus

Right, suspendu à sécher?

By the way, can you explain why the pronunciation of the root changes in the singular forms, je sèche?

Robusto

@jlliagre Sounds like a chess enigne.

Stockfish (chess)

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jlliagre

@Cerberus That's because of the stressed syllable.

Cerberus

00:30

Why does the stress make us not want to have é?

jlliagre

Sèche has a single and closed syllable, sécher has two, the first one is open.

I believe there is never a é in a closed syllable.

Cerberus

Ah, I see.

Interesting.

And why is it appelle but appelons?

Is it because, in a closed syllable, it must always be è? (Is it a schwa in appelons?)

jlliagre

Yes to both.

Cerberus

OK makes sense.

jlliagre

@Cerberus People with a strong Corsican accent pronounce "apélle". That's very distinctive.

Cerberus

00:39

Also with a different a sound?

And does the double ll have a function, then?

jlliagre

Same /a/. The double ll has no function.

Cerberus

OK.

Funny.

Would that be Italian influence? But Italians can do the è sound just fine?

tchrist

00:54

@jlliagre That hurts my head. Please be talking about some other contrastive pair than /e/ vs /ɛ/.

jlliagre

@Cerberus Some (other) Tuscan variant or other Italian languages might pronounce it the same way. What is sure is 'seven' (sette) is pronounced /'sette/ in Corsican but /ˈsɛtte/ in standard Italian.

tchrist

@jlliagre Interesting!

Cerberus

@jlliagre OK and this /e/ is closer to é?

jlliagre

Yes, é is /e/.

Cerberus

OK.

And è is /ɛ/.

jlliagre

01:07

Right.

jlliagre

01:21

Come distinguere gli ACCENTI italiani?

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@Cerberus 14'41" Outside Central-Italy, the Italian vowel system is a casino :-)

Cerberus

@jlliagre I can understand that with the Italian subtitles.

I didn't know north/central/south was a major division.

jlliagre

@Cerberus The only difference I already knew was the one of casa.

Cerberus

You know a lot more about Italian that I do.

jlliagre

@Cerberus That depends on the millennium. We go back a couple of them and you win hands down :-)

tchrist

@Cerberus casa is casa is casa in any number of tongues. :)

To provide your words over the computer, like here in chat, you're doing what?

1. writing them
2. saying them
3. typing them in
4. keying them in
5. keyboarding them
6. entering them
7. posting them
8. publishing them
9. punching them
10. (something else than any of these, and if so, what?)

Cerberus

01:36

@jlliagre We wouldn't call that Italian, though!

tchrist

Is not any language spoken on the Italian peninsula by definition an Italian language? :)

Even 50,000 years ago? :)

We do such silly things with country names, as though they are aeternal.

Cerberus

@tchrist An, yes; the, no.

Though, in the linguistic sense, not any.

tchrist

Henceforth rebranded "Languages of the Italian Peninsula".

jlliagre

@tchrist Dropping them?

tchrist

It's hard to find something that works for people who are just waving at virtual keyboards instead of pushing physical keys on a tactile keyboard like I am.

Cerberus

01:47

I am pushing physical keys.

tchrist

What I'm getting at is that our terminology for producing input is just as abstracted, if not more, into some extended metaphor as "printing" is in a programming language, per the ELU question.

Cerberus

@tchrist Any of these is valid.

@tchrist But programming languages are not as widely known.

Besides, not al use print.

Does Javascript use print?

Autohotkey certainly does not.

tchrist

@Cerberus This is quite true.

Keypunch

A keypunch is a device for precisely punching holes into stiff paper cards at specific locations as determined by keys struck by a human operator. Other devices included here for that same function include the gang punch, the pantograph punch, and the stamp. The term was also used for similar machines used by humans to transcribe data onto punched tape media. For Jacquard looms, the resulting punched cards were joined together to form a paper tape, called a "chain", containing a program that, when read by a loom, directed its operation. For Hollerith machines and other unit record machines the...

That's why I thought of punching them in.

Late Pleistocene technology.

@Cerberus Well, there's window.print() but that's not the same as console.log() is.

Many languages use read and write as opposites.

Cerberus

Punching in letters in typing is not an uncommon expression?

tchrist

agree

Cerberus

01:54

Do you really thing it came from punched cards?

tchrist

No, but it's what made me think of the connection.

Cerberus

Ah, OK.

tchrist

"Punch in the coördinates, Mr Sulu!"

Cerberus

Yeah, that suggests violent pressing!

tchrist

Beethoven has a Hammer(clavier) sonata, or rather, the Große Sonate für das Hammerklavier. Always sounded violent to me!

Cerberus

01:58

Well, yes, a piano has hammers!

tchrist

Yes, but look how it starts!

Bang bang bang. Fortissimo with extra hard accents!

Cerberus

Let me put it on.

tchrist

> The work was perceived as almost unplayable but was nevertheless seen as the summit of piano literature since its very first publication. Completed in 1818, it is often considered to be Beethoven's most technically challenging piano composition[25] and one of the most demanding solo works in the classical piano repertoire.

It's complex and incredibly difficult.

> Structurally, it follows traditional Classical-era sonata form, but the recapitulation of the main theme is varied to include extensive figurations in the right hand that anticipate some of the techniques of Romantic piano music. NPR's Ted Libbey writes, "An entire line of development in Romantic music—passing through Schubert, Chopin, Schumann, Brahms, and even Liszt—springs from this music."[22]

jlliagre

02:15

Italian Accents & Dialects - Beginner Italian Course: Lesson 23

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Accents: They can differ in vowel sounds. 1'52"

Robusto

02:30

@Cerberus I tried it, but I didn't get a single row.

Cerberus

@Robusto Oh, dear!

And I thought it would be easier than the NYT ones.

Do you have any suggestions on how it could be improved?

I have already realised that bone is not right.

Robusto

@Cerberus I don't know. I just didn't see any full-row relationships.

Cerberus

I mean when you saw the solutions?

Replace "bone" with "piercing".

Robusto

It didn't show me the solutions.

That's another thing I was going to mention.

Cerberus

Ah OK, you need to make four wrong guesses.

Robusto

02:34

I did.

Cerberus

Then you can choose "Reveal".

But it doesn't happen automatically on that site, you could keep trying.

GratefulDisciple

@Cerberus Spoiler

Robusto

The NYT one does reveal the answers. I didn't realize it was manual in yours.

Cerberus

It's not my site.

GratefulDisciple

@Cerberus I guess so. That's why I could also guess it as the first set.

Cerberus

02:36

@GratefulDisciple Right! I tried to hedge it with "something to do with".

Robusto

@Cerberus Ah, OK. I thought it was. I was going to congratulate you on putting it together in such a short time.

Cerberus

@GratefulDisciple Right!

@Robusto Heh maybe I could do that with GPT...

But there already exist various sites for this.

Robusto

Well, I wondered if you'd suddenly got serious about programming.

Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

Cerberus

Well, I guess I could do it myself in Javascript.

But it would be a ton of work.

GratefulDisciple

@Cerberus Yup, quite easy for me too, 77% solve rate.

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Cerberus

02:39

Yay.

HippoSawrUs

Once when I was ~20, with a fresh brain, brighter than most, I forgot how to spell train for a minute: Trane? No, not trane…bane, cane, dane, feign, gain, insane…am I having a stroke? What's happening? Where'e the dictionary? Are there tranes in the Lexicon Encyclopedia?

You know, like that

It happens to the finest people

What are those episodes called?

And I just remembered the Lexicon Encyclopedia set…

I can't believe I forgot the word lexicon last month. OMG.

I spent maybe $1000 for that word, to sit in my living room…

It had trans surgery in it, yeah

But I couldn't retain lexicon

Wow

Cerberus

02:57

@Robusto So let me know how it could be improved after revealing the categories.

tchrist

@HippoSawrUs It does.

HippoSawrUs

Anyway, so can somebody buy the Cross-whatever encyclopedia volume for this person…

tchrist

Dressing? :)

HippoSawrUs

Oh, they've never had encyclopedias or a library maybe

tchrist

When I'm bonking — hitting the wall physically, usually due to needing to replenish calories or sometimes water, or rarely oxygen — it can feel like ALL words are hard.

Or just plain underslept.

I don't know who "this person" is.

But when I was 20 I also routinely did double-all-nighters. Crazy, I know.

HippoSawrUs

03:08

@tchrist Probably someone who just needs electolytes or oxygen or something

I'm supposed to stop being mean this year

tchrist

@HippoSawrUs Urgery is what urgers do. I don't know what this has to do with tranes, though.

HippoSawrUs

And bake more cookies and muffin tops

Cerberus

@tchrist Yes, low blood sugar or sleep deprivation.

tchrist

@HippoSawrUs Just muffin tops, eh? Are you one of those people who have discrimineaten the muffin bottoms?

HippoSawrUs

I'm going to try to seem sweeter in my feebleness

tchrist

03:11

You probably just need to hang out with my friend Stevia more. Sweetness incarnate.

HippoSawrUs

@tchrist No, it's my husband

Him and his muffin tops

tchrist

tsk tsk

Does he treat cupcakes the same way?

HippoSawrUs

But he buys bananas all the time, and they make better muffin tops than whole muffins, I've found

Or the easy banana muffin recipe found online, that is

Oh, I know why I started that now

Mitch

There's no emoji for 'emoji'.

HippoSawrUs

All I had was the self-rising biscuit flour one time

White Lilly brand

And it's too soft for whole muffins

Mitch

03:15

Has the new year already started or do we get a mulligan and it really starts tomorrow?

HippoSawrUs

But makes great muffin tops

Mitch

You keep saying muffin top over and over and soon it'll become a thing.

tchrist

@Mitch 🯄

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HippoSawrUs

My mother-in-laws muffin-top pans were getting rusty

Mitch

@tchrist I just finished translating 'Finnegans Wake' into emojis and it never came up.

tchrist

03:17

Crusty?

Mitch

@tchrist well that's just cheating.

HippoSawrUs

She was English. IDK if she actually made muffin tops in them.

tchrist

@Mitch You should go to the next Emojicon and make them put out. Clearly there are missing emojika to be had.

HippoSawrUs

Or some kind of tarts or whatever they do

Anyway, I threw away the pan and bought a new one

tchrist

@Mitch ¿moi?

Mitch

03:19

Like all those 18th c novels that redacted peoples names...look man we know you're writing about your mom and dad, just make up a name.

HippoSawrUs

So I have to use it or regift it

To justify that

Amazon rewards are dangerous

Like crack and fenty probably

Somewhere up there

Mitch

@tchrist there's a form to fill out. I'll propose an image and we'll see how far it goes.

HippoSawrUs

But I've recovered now

No more Wilton pans

Mitch

I wonder how Toki Pona does it...I'll copy them

tchrist

Are those the moldy ones?

HippoSawrUs

03:21

I would pay money to have my old aluminum jelly roll pan back

tchrist

What befell it?

Wait, your mother in law was English?

Cerberus

@Mitch Are those actually real people? I always assumed those were fictional?

tchrist

Or are you just Pennsylvania Dutch calling all the rest of us English? :)

HippoSawrUs

From Ramsgate

tchrist

I sea, I sea.

Mitch

03:22

@Cerberus I'm going on the well founded assumption that all fiction is thinly veiled autobiography.

tchrist

Jelly roll pans do not truly last forever, at least not these days.

Mitch

Your friends will be upset if they don't find themselves in your latest novel

HippoSawrUs

My husband had IDK how many pizza pans from the '70s, nice ones, and he used my jelly roll pan for pizza one time…

Mitch

Also if they do find themselves, but in a different kind of anger.

Cerberus

@Mitch Oh, dear!

HippoSawrUs

03:24

I would go on, but my best friend retrieved it from the trash, gave it a good home, and prevented a domestic abuse situation

Cerberus

That changes things.

HippoSawrUs

She's a gem

Mitch

@Cerberus I think it was Thomas Hardy how said that all these novelists who think they have to have lived experience to write a good story are just lacking imagination.

Or maybe Mark Twain.

HippoSawrUs

I'm really good at measuring and following baking instructions

tchrist

Try a cookie sheet? Or are you making bars?

HippoSawrUs

03:26

And my husband is really good at cooking with secret ingredients

It takes all kinds

tchrist

Secret ingredients will make you either oversleep or undersleep.

Cerberus

@Mitch Take that!

Mitch

Like Anna Karenina... Tolstoy used his personal experience as a woman to inform his story. Also his lived experience in reading Madame Bovary.

I hope I got that right. Who wrote which one first?

tchrist

Twain.

Mitch

22 Twain?

Cerberus

03:28

@Mitch Hee was he a pseudonym or transsexual?

tchrist

Anna Karenina principle

The Anna Karenina principle states that a deficiency in any one of a number of factors dooms an endeavor to failure. Consequently, a successful endeavor (subject to this principle) is one for which every possible deficiency has been avoided. The name of the principle derives from Leo Tolstoy's 1877 novel Anna Karenina, which begins: In other words: happy families share a common set of attributes which lead to happiness, while any of a variety of attributes can cause an unhappy family. This concept has been generalized to apply to several fields of study. In statistics, the term Anna Kareni...

Mitch

@Cerberus yeah that was a bit much but people liked his books so I guess he could get away with being so catty.

tchrist

Chekov's lingerie?

Cerberus

Do I need to read him?

Have I read anything by him?

tchrist

Madame Bovary was a cow.

HippoSawrUs

03:30

For 30 years, he was like, 'Here, here's a bowl of Mexican rice, no big deal, just thought you'd like some…how was it, BTW? Ah-ha! I added onion! Gotcha! I'm a genius! I just invented something…let me file that under Unexpected Onion…and never find that again…

Gotta love him, and food

tchrist

I get so confused by the differences between what in American we call "Mexican rice" and what we call "Spanish rice".

Mitch

@tchrist Happiness is the 'bottom' object in the Boolean algebra of family features. It is the intersection of all properties...there are many ways to miss being happy,you have to have all the properties to be happy and there's only one way to have them all.

@tchrist I hope he's had it washed

tchrist

Rice-a-Roni has ruined me forever.

Mitch

@tchrist snirkle

@tchrist In Mexico, they call Spanish Rice 'el arroz americano'.

HippoSawrUs

His daughter is half Mexican-American. Her mom's family just called it the Mexican word for soup. Sounds like so-pah. I'm sure you know. I will look it up again.

Mitch

03:36

@tchrist I don't think I've ever had that. We were all envious of the contestants on 'The Price Is Right' when they won a box.

HippoSawrUs

Sopa

Mitch

Soh puh

HippoSawrUs

Short for Sopa Aguada de Arroz, I think

Mitch

In my best American accent

HippoSawrUs

Puerto Ricans like yellow rice. Mexicans like red rice.

That's all I know

They can fight amongst themselves while I eat

I'm not the United Nations

tchrist

03:42

And Cubans? I think there's an egg involved.

HippoSawrUs

Just an old, sweet, feeble lady

That's the goal

This year

We'll see

tchrist

Brown in Cuba. Whiter in Spain. Con huevo.

This is not a deliberately racist remark.

Arroz con frijoles ≠ Arroz a la cubana

Pondian issues.

HippoSawrUs

In my hometown, all the ethnic food, Cuban whatever, was cooked by the Greeks

They owned all the restaurants

They really did

tchrist

They mostly did in my town, too.

HippoSawrUs

There was a greek restaurant set up in a mobile building with attached covered dining area by the main gate of Ft Sam Houston, TX 30 years ago. That was my favorite food and I've been disappointed in everything else ever since

I would go to the Greek festivals every year, just hoping…

But to no avail

They can't even do the green beans right

It's sad

tchrist

03:52

Are green beans following the Anna Karenina principle?

HippoSawrUs

You don't know what you got till it's gone…

tchrist

Is there only one happy road for green beans, and all others lead to sadness?

PROTIP: Edamame are not the green beans you are looking for.

HippoSawrUs

The green beans (string beans) were in a tomato-based sauce, so good. Maybe everything had lamb juice in it, IDK. But everything was fantastic; hold the olives. And no grape leaves or licorice whatever for me.

My granddaughter would eat a whole bag of edamame beans. Too much estrogen for a little person, they said.

Oh, it was 35 years ago…

What is happening?

I may have lost 5 years somewhere…

Time flies when you're napping

Babies understand that right off the bat

Happy 2025

Zzzz...

HippoSawrUs

04:21

@tchrist My husband does make the best lemon bars, I forgot. Not for diabetics. But maybe for my birthday this year, a small batch.

I made him butterscotch bars once. The English are obsessed with gross stuff. Why does everything have to be like toffee? I don't understand…GN.

Cerberus

04:37

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HippoSawrUs

04:55

@Mitch Never had Rice-a-Roni? How is that possible? Were you on a space station in the '80s? Because I know all the ships at sea and Siberia had Rice-a-Roni then.

The rice is browned first to give it a nutty flavor, like with sopa.

CowperKettle

07:01

> Fully electric vehicles accounted for 88.9% of new cars sold in 2024, up from 82.4% in 2023, data from the Norwegian Road Federation (OFV) showed.

CowperKettle

11:20

Lex Fridman has published an interview with Zelensky

handan_toddler

11:37

Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury: A Victory Beyond the Ring

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Usyk beat a 20 pound heavier Fury.

handan_toddler

12:03

> After his win, Usyk held aloft a sword that had once belonged to Ivan Mazepa, a 17th‑century Ukrainian Cossack warrior and leader. Usyk's promoter, Alex Krassyuk, said "This is the original sabre of the legendary Hetman who fought for Ukraine's freedom from Russian invaders over 300 years ago". It had been flown in from a museum in Ukraine.

handan_toddler

12:19

> Russia considers Mazepa a traitor and an enemy of the state.

tchrist

font porn

handan_toddler

You know it when you see it.

handan_toddler

12:48

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Robusto

13:06

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handan_toddler

13:23

So is perfect the enemy of good.

Robusto

13:44

Or is good the enemy of perfect?

handan_toddler

Xor

Robusto

Now, you boys stop fighting and play nice. Think of good as a younger perfect.

handan_toddler

good, 🤔 enough

~~good enough~~

Not good enough.

Robusto

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@handan_toddler When I was programming, I yearned for perfection but never had enough time except for my own projects. Most companies don't give you enough time for perfection. Or perhaps there are different notions of perfection?

handan_toddler

13:59

Yup, time is money.

Robusto

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handan_toddler

14:29

@Robusto that reminds me of a Lombardi quote: practice doesn't make perfect. A perfect practice makes perfect.

Robusto

@handan_toddler There's an alternative to that in music: "Practice makes permanent." Which is a two-sided coin.

I coached when my boys were in Little League, and I used to tell them: "How you practice is how you play."

CowperKettle

handan_toddler

Now, that^ is how one shouldn't practice.

Mitch

@HippoSawrUs I blame my mom. Also, no Frosted Flakes. Or rather it was discouraged highly. Also, she bought the groceries so we ate what she got.

How dare she.

Robusto

@Mitch Some kids in grade school got chocolate milk with their lunch. I used to envy them mightily.

HTML Is Actually a Programming Language. Fight Me

> When haters deny HTML’s status as a programming language, they’re showing they don’t understand what a language really is. Language is not instructing an interlocutor what to do in a way that leaves no room for other interpretations; it is better and richer than that. Like human language, HTML is conversational. It is remarkably adept at adapting to context.

Hmm, I'm not a hater, but I disagree.

Mitch

14:44

@Robusto spoiled brats

Robusto

Right?

Mitch

@Robusto yeah, I was open to see what he would say, but he lost me at 'conversational'.

also at 'like human language'.

also his lack of use of 'the' really bothers me.

Robusto

@Mitch Did he forget to put a close tag on it?

tchrist

15:07

@Mitch More duplicate rereopopeningingses?

Possible duplicate of English does not have “numbered conditionals” — at least, not unless you number them in the thousands. — tchrist ♦ 1 min ago

Mitch

@tchrist I used to think that duplicates were easy close reasons, but now I kind of think it's OK to ask similar questions to those previous. People forget, new people are around, being stuck to exactly what was said before is stifling.

And so it was written.

And so "And so it was written" was written.

It's like a dictionary...people think because it was written, it must be the authoritative truth.

@Robusto nah I ws going to say I didn't like how he used 'the' just to be annoying, and then I checked and he didn't use it at all, and I thought that was odd, 'the' being the most common word in the universe.

Robusto

@Mitch I thought that would be a, not the; an isn't even in the race.

Mitch

> Etymology fact of the week: "calque" is a loanword, while "loanword" is a calque. #etymology #language #linguistics Calques VS Loanwords A calque is a word or phrase that was coined by translating the components of a word or phrase in another language. For example, the English word 'skyscraper has been calqued into Spanish by directly translating the words 'sky' and scraper, to give 'rascacielos

> A loanword is a word or phrase that was taken from one language to another. For example, the English word 'patio' is from the Spanish word 'patio, which means 'patio" Loanwords make up berween 70 and 80% of English vocabulary. Example of a calque: German Lehnwort (morphemes translated) English loanwordS loanword Example of a loanword: calque (word borrowed) English calque

tchrist

15:25

Unfortunately, all that is correct.

Mostly.

Mitch

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M.A.R.

@Mitch so Bluesky is now the platform for nerds (read dem supporters) and X is for rednecks?

Or is there no comparison yet?

Nerds and Rednecks sounds like an arcade game

Mitch

@M.A.R. That's all the do all day long on bluesky...compare themselves with Xitter

@M.A.R. but yeah, people seem to be saying something like that, though I'm not sure that's actually the case.

M.A.R.

Wait, I just figured out American politics. You just jump and double jump and eat mushrooms until you win. Any connection to reality is coincidental

Mitch

@M.A.R. Or actual candy you can get at a movie theater.

at least Nerds.

Rednecks should be... redhots?

or candy corn? I think of candy corn as redneck candy. It's free candy you get at Halloween that nobody wants.

M.A.R.

15:32

With a picture of a chilli pepper smiling disturbingly

Mitch

I say this with full transparency that I really like candy corn. especially the mixed yellow and brown kind.

If you're going to tell me that they all taste the same, that it is just food coloring, I'm going to swear at you and slam down the phone.

M.A.R.

It mostly looks like sugar with added sugar

Even I have standards

Mitch

@M.A.R. That is a gross oversimplification, almost to the point of having some small nits to pick about it like its not mushrooms.

tchrist

@M.A.R. hands vs minds

Mitch

@M.A.R. To be fair, there's no added sugar. It's just sugar by itself.

tchrist

15:35

Mushrooms make reindeer fly?

Mitch

Frosted Flakes is sugar added to sugar.

I knew some kids when I was a kid who would sprinkle sugar over their Frosted Flakes.

So I applaud them for their ability to recurse.

jlliagre

#WhenTaken #314 (06.01.2025)

I scored 803/1000🏅

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2️⃣📍407 km - 🗓️2 yrs - 🥇185/200
3️⃣📍7.7K km - 🗓️15 yrs - 🥉79/200
4️⃣📍969 km - 🗓️5 yrs - 🥈166/200
5️⃣📍27.7 m - 🗓️7 yrs - 🥇191/200

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tchrist

@Mitch And on their maple syrup.

M.A.R.

@tchrist depends what the middle-aged women voter demographic think

Mitch

M.A.R.

15:40

Dems depend a lot on black voters but they usually don't show up

Mitch

@M.A.R. 👆

Robusto

@jlliagre I seriously messed up the geography on those. It didn't seem like there were a lot of clues.

Mitch

so that helps me with another stopword ('X'). somehow the researchers who I follow there talk about 1) their research, and 2) how much X is bad.

M.A.R.

@Mitch I don't have an account on either but I really doubt it's that bad

It's not the comment section on Infowars, is it?

GratefulDisciple

Yup, purple is a good one (not farfetched but not easy either).
Connections #463
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Mitch

15:46

@M.A.R. Yeah I don't see all the bad things that people talk about but then I don't have many followers and I don't post much so I don't get replies.

@M.A.R. I don't look at infowars.

I 'curate' my feeds: mute words that are associated with 'not in good faith' speech, remove things I don't like from my feed.

Every so often I'll look at the comment threads on Washington Post or NYT and I usually don't get anything meaningful out of it so why bother.

GratefulDisciple

@Robusto "Most companies don't give you enough time for perfection." That's somewhat hard for me to adjust to, given the ideal inculcated in classical performers. Took me some time to adjust to the 80% / 20% pragmatic ethos in business IT programming (as opposed to product programming where there is more reason for perfection).

jlliagre

@Robusto Spoiler

GratefulDisciple

For example, many times I realized after finishing that a refactoring would be good for future improvement, but my manager (rightly) thinks that my time is better spent on another project that is more business time-sensitive.

@Robusto That IS so true. A successful conclusion of many weeks of practice sessions for a piece means you retain your muscle memory in such a way that the final state minimizes the likelihood to stray from what you intend to perform at a recital. And years later, you still retain at least 75%.

Robusto

OK, going back I realize I *did* get one row, the yellow one. Upon examining the others, I take exception to "bone" in the green one; we say "stone-cold" and "common cold" and "bitter cold" but we don't say "bone cold," though we do say "chilled to the bone" or (adj) "bone-chilling". Blue is fine, though I thought it a bit opaque when doing the puzzle. But purple was flummoxing.
In the first place, to use "something" for "things in your eye" is to include the class name in the class you're looking for ("something" is not an element of "things", at least not in the same way that *iris*, *san…

GratefulDisciple

@Mitch No wonder it's one of my favorite cereal, along with Fruit Loops.

Robusto

15:57

@GratefulDisciple Let's hope it's 75% ;-).

@jlliagre I would only note that any Spanish- or Portuguese-speaking can have a rio. Hell, there's a cycling club in my state that used to be named "Rio."

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