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Why not?
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@GratefulDisciple Joyce was used to that. BTW, would you like to know what British author condemned Ulysses condemned it and why?
Hint: He wrote the lascivious novel Lady Chatterly's Lover.
BTW, Joyce was no stranger to book burning. Some rich lady bought all the copies of Dubliners and had them burned. And other obstacles.
@jlliagre If you boys can't play nice you'll have to go outside for your staring contests.
Lest we forget George Dawson's book Life Is So Good being censored at the very school named after him.
> the district stipulated the book must be accompanied by "teacher-led instruction" if it's used in the classroom.
Because he starts the book by recounting the false lynching of his best friend for impregnating a white girl.
@think_meaning_buildß I can't forget that because I never knew it.
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"You have 27 skill points, right? Every billionaire has 7 luck points and 20 evil points." —Angela Collier
@Robusto I heard about D.H. Lawrence novels, but not James Joyce. What surprised me was the book burning part. It's one thing to shun a book, ban it, censure it, etc; it's quite another to burn it, reminiscent of the pre-modern era.
@GratefulDisciple People are stupid, what can I say?
@Robusto Stupid people in power, that's more worrisome.
Too late.
 
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@Robusto Oh, I know this author. Can't recall the name, but I read his other poem about a mine worker
Ah. DH Lawrence.
> "Don't yuk someone else's yum, unless their yum is taking your rights away" (Thomas Paine, 1791)
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yum is replaced by dnf now. as in "did not finish" which is an inauspicious name for the update process.
@Criggie pacman's apt to work better.
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@alphabet honestly, I'm a bit of an apt hoe myself, unless I'm exploring in which sometimes I still revert to dselect.
@Mitch the man who learned to read at 98 years old.
 
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@Criggie Is apt a client, or are we apt's clients?
that's way too silly-fosifical for me at this time of the year
 
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Word of the day: lore - the region between the eyes and nostrils of birds, reptiles, and amphibians
The loreal pit is the deep depression, or fossa, in the loreal area on either side of the head in pit vipers (crotaline snakes). The area is located behind the nostril and in front of the eye, but below the line that runs between the centers of each. It is the external opening to an extremely sensitive infrared detecting organ. The loreal pit is bordered by lacunal scales. The loreal pit also functions as part of a thermal regulating system, enabling pit vipers to maintain their body temperature. == References ==
A new AI model has reached 85% in the hardest test for AI intended to assess "human-like" thinking, but it did it with massive tweaking and at a massive cost of computation.
06:28
Nubian Pyramids from Antiquity, in Sudan.
> In the 1830s Giuseppe Ferlini came to Meroe seeking treasure and raided and demolished a number of pyramids which had been found “in good conditions” by Frédéric Cailliaud just a few years earlier.[14] At Wad ban Naqa, he leveled the pyramid N6 of the kandake Amanishakheto starting from the top, and found dozens of gold and silver jewelry pieces. Overall, he is considered responsible for the destruction of over 40 pyramids.
Only 40.
 
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I would bet that kids hooked on phonics have less photographic memories. There's something about words being pictures instead of sounds.
I can't pronounce anything that doesn't look like another word, and gave up trying in 2nd grade, but I could pull up pages in my memory, if they were unique enough in some way, like a picture.
When God shuts a door… If I have to hear that one more time in these holiday movies…boring. But the lights are nice.
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in username, blacklisted user (75): Why does the word "joed" mean weary, tired, exhausted, fatigued, etc.?‭ by Asim Ahmed‭ on english.SE
 
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@CowperKettle I love it that they take care in doing the fine metalwork to represent realistic score engraving, even down to the spacing and the shape of each element! I see that they use the beginning of Let it be in Paul McCartney's bench, but does anyone know which song is used for John Lennon's bench? Where are these benches located, BTW?
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Wordle 1,281 3/6

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#travle #738 +0 (Perfect)
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@CowperKettle Looks like the Paul McCartney bench song is "Yesterday"; I can't see enough of the John Lennon song to hazard a guess.
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Strands #293
“Keeping the faith”
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@Robusto it's "Girl"
Saved at the thirteenth hour, the Senate passed the RFK Revitalization Act by unanimous consent around a quarter past one this morning local (Eastern) time. Man, those senators sure do work late! :)
But no, I'm afraid this won't cure his brain worm problem.
@MetaEd Sort of. But even if he's swinging the eighth notes the rhythm is only an approximation. Very blocky.
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I'd totally blame Wordle for my today's failure.
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@Vikas Interesting construction. I suspect it is not grammatical.
I'd blame Wordle for my today's total failure!
Is it your failure or is it today's? ;-)
No, it's that you've used two different determiners for the same noun phrase: both my and today’s cannot occupy the same slot.
I felt like this while submitting last word.
@tchrist jinx
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@tchrist It looks a bit off to me too.
I'd blame Wordle for my failure today.
There you go. I corrected it.
It's like how you can have today's problems and you can have the problems of today, but you cannot have *the today's problems.
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@Vikas Or: I'd blame today's Wordle for my problems.
But I guess that's drifted a bit from your meaning.
It wasn't a serious sentence. So both works.
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I wonder if you guys actually noticed what I put the stress on though.
My Wordle's today's success of mine.
You are in a twisty maze of little passages, all different.
You are in a little twisting maze of passages, all different.
@Vikas Both is dual or plural, not singular. :)
@tchrist lol
#WhenTaken #298 (21.12.2024)

I scored 860/1000🏆

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14:40
Both work?
Yes.
There are two paintings in the lobby. Both works are mine.
How about it?
The head there is not both but works; not that that would matter.
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@GratefulDisciple On the bank of the Iset river in Yekaterinburg, along the track I'm frequently taking on my runs back from the ParkRun in the center
@Robusto Cool! I should have guessed these notes were not just random
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Both halves. Both hands. Both eyes. Both ears. Both twins. Both spouses. Both oxen. Both parents. Both gametes. We both. You both. Both of us two. Both of you two.
Dual (abbreviated DU) is a grammatical number that some languages use in addition to singular and plural. When a noun or pronoun appears in dual form, it is interpreted as referring to precisely two of the entities (objects or persons) identified by the noun or pronoun acting as a single unit or in unison. Verbs can also have dual agreement forms in these languages. The dual number existed in Proto-Indo-European and persisted in many of its descendants, such as Ancient Greek and Sanskrit, which have dual forms across nouns, verbs, and adjectives; Gothic, which used dual forms in pronouns and verbs...
But I decline to analyse the both of us. :)
Nor Never the twain shall meet.
Mayor Bowser? Well at this rate I shouldn't be surprised the villain of Mario games is a US politician
The twain is like the pair or the twins or the two.
Twain Johnson sounds like a porn movie
@M.A.R. Unless it's Biden's dog, Major, a bowser for sure, that one is doncha know.
@M.A.R. Bonded pairs aren't necessarily braided pairs. :)
@tchrist oh she's the lady is charge of overlooking that RFK campus or whatever
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@M.A.R. Indeed. Elected Mayor of the Federal District of these United States of America, yet no state itself.
@tchrist please. It's already confusing enough as it is
In Veep season 4, since there are an even number of electoral votes, the election ends in a tie.
@M.A.R. Just think of it as a locative anomaly in much the same way that intercalary days in the calendar could be considered temporal ones by bookkeeper logic.
Has that happened before?
Sure.
It was necessarily more likely when there were fewer to go around.
Nobody thought maybe there should be odd votes?
The ensuing battle for which state would get one vote more or less would have almost been as entertaining as everything else going on right now
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No, it would have awful.
Because then the House of Representatives votes, but weirdly, such that each of the fifty states' gets only one vote, so if they have an evenly a split delegation they can't cast a vote.
@tchrist how much lower can you get? A governor called a constellation a pack of drones.
@M.A.R. Now that's below the belt! Orion's belt, in particular.
It's almost as bad as an Imam Jumaa saying earthquakes happen because women are neglecting hijab
Except only one of the aforementioned geniuses helps govern a world superpower
The monkeys aren't behind typewriters churning out King Lear, they're pushing random red buttons in a nuclear submarine
I wonder whatever else the Senate passed by unanimous consent this puta madrugada.
@M.A.R. 'Swhy there's so many earthquakes in California. All those celebs dressing immodestly.
If you spell the words "Absolutely Nothing" backwards, you get
"Gnihton Yletulosba.. which means.. absolutely nothing.
@M.A.R. Helped. He's not a governor anymore, fortunately.
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@alphabet He reminds me of Colin Robinson in What We Do in the Shadows.
@CowperKettle if you're trying to summon a demon you need a pentagram of chalk first
@M.A.R. Only if you want any protection from the demon summoned so it doesn't slay you for having pestered it. The lines constrain it from escaping. Do try not to step on the chalk.
I do wonder. If the demon doesn't fit inside the pentagram, it'd be an awkward game of Twister
People are still spreading that theory, of course, due to the Pentagon's notorious pro-Iran bias /s
@M.A.R. Never play Twister with Demogorgon: too many limbs!
@alphabet man if we did have those motherships maybe Assad wouldn't be taking a brief respite like Shah and Iranian intelligence wouldn't be eating their hat
BTW tomorrow's Women's day in Iran so expect the mothership to launch its mission
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@CowperKettle Where are those benches located?
@M.A.R. Why do the mullahs allow women to have a "day"?
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@Robusto well, first off, there's a lot of misogyny built in Iranian Sharia law, but the version Mullahs have been preaching these past few decades is much much tamer than, say, what the Taliban nuts are saying is Sharia law. Which version is closer to the original teachings? I dunno, don't care enough to find out honestly. As I've said before, they can pull a lot of hadiths out of their ass because documentation in early Islam history was non-existent.
Second, well, it's Fatemeh Zahra's birthday, the Prophet's daughter, whose sons for 11 generations are the Imams of the 12-Imam Shia
Probably not much more than a footnote for Sunni Muslims, because the 2nd caliphate after the Prophet's passing, Omar (who's considered to be the 2nd Imam of Sunnis) reportedly burned down her house's door, which eventually killed her.
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#WhenTaken #298 (21.12.2024)

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This "Imam" title is the real deal. I guess sorta like saints in Christianity. You know, Paul, Peter etc.
@M.A.R. Except Christian saints get to be depicted. Imams don't.
When OTOH Khomeini is called an Imam, it means that he was like a substitute Imam for the real one. 12-Imam Shia believe that Mahdi, the 12th Imam, has been living for more than 1100 years, and will one day rise and avenge all wrong in the world, and establish utopia.
@Robusto I suppose Imams are a bit more divine to Shia than saints are to Christians.
@M.A.R. And surely they claim that their doctrines respect women more than those of the evil decadent West.
@M.A.R. Depends on the Christian. For some, saints are minor deities.
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Kinda ironic that in the US, Women's Day is a holiday--an International one, actually--that few people know exists.
@alphabet I took an (obviously mandatory) sociology course this term. A mullah (a more open-minded one, since he is a bit more exposed to the elements stuff other than Howzeh teachings) spent a few sessions talking to us about the theories and models, what Marx said, Comte, Durkheim et al. then the crux of the 'sociology' he's teaching has topic headlines like "the inequality and wage gap between men and women in the West'
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@jlliagre Inversion.
So they don't outright say it, just like those Evangelical weasels don't outright admit to preaching something falsifiable like Christian superstition
Instead, it's full of tu quoque
Then if they can, they single out the more uh, accepting people in the crowd, and then they try to make a compromise.
If you're vigilant, you can then troll them for great fun.
In the class so far we've had him denounce a couple of things Khamenei has said and done, even a couple of things in Quran
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Oh, and mullahs invariably have a seething harted for VoA.
I watched VoA once, long ago. It was cheap GOP-oriented propaganda directed at Iranians. Didn't even sound convincing.
@M.A.R. They should confiscate all the radios and TVs and computers and ... and ... paper?
@Robusto Yes. Congrats for identifying WhenTaken #5 building!
@jlliagre I read about it online somewhere when it was being built. Otherwise I'd never have known.
And for some reason anti-Iranian propaganda channels always bolster Shah's son, which as far as I'm concerned is some prissy but spoiled rich asshole, wonder who can possibly see him as leading a country
@M.A.R. Trump's appointed Kari Lake to lead it next, so it might become so absurd as to be entertaining.
16:03
@M.A.R. Hey, Trump got reelected. Go figure.
@Robusto oh failing to convince people not to buy satellite dishes was one of the most spectacular fiascos back then. The type where you feel like a threshold was crossed and things will never be the same.
Clock's been ticking for a time already.
@M.A.R. It always does.
@alphabet she's familiar somehow. What do I know her from? Hmm
@M.A.R. Wait, what? I'd've assumed they were mostly about how Iranians should establish democracy by petitioning America to invade or something.
16:07
@Robusto before that most people had crappy antennas with crappier reception, so even a lot of ultra-conservatives bought dishes since they were tired of bad reception. The regime's solution, some digital signal enhancer or somesuch, came too few too late
@M.A.R. That's the fall of Communism in a nutshell. Communism had an ideology (read: religion), the West had stuff people wanted in the stores. End of story.
@M.A.R. She was one of the top election-deniers in 2020 and just has a general history of saying insane things, like that she was taking hydroxychloroquine every day to prevent Covid.
@alphabet the most famous channel right now is Iran International, and so far I've only seen them praise Trump, air some pro-Israel propaganda, and show user videos of long lines for, I dunno, bread or something. Oh and the Iranians are petitioning Israel to invade Iran. Either they hate the regime that much or they completely miss the news about body count when Israel liberates someplace.
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@alphabet in hindsight, HCQ as a drug for a viral infection sounds very stupid. I wonder who started it. Maybe one of the charlatans @Cowp sometimes talks about that peddle this or that drug as some miracle cure.
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@Robusto if and when the world reopens its doors to Iranians, for a few years at least we will be the most consumerist population in the world
Oh and Iranian pharma companies will go bankrupt after being sued for the several dozen patented drugs they've stolen.
@M.A.R. Ah yes, Trump, that well-known friend of the Iranian people /s
Dec 8 at 1:05, by alphabet
@M.A.R. Or America getting (directly) involved. We are about to have a leader who presumably thinks al-Assad is a brand of hummus.
For example, sacubitril/valsartan, a revolutionary drug for heart failure with reduced ejection fraction.
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Patent will expire in 2025. We've had Iranian manufacturers produce it for years now.
In the name of self-sufficiency
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Strands #293
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@M.A.R. What'll happen to Mash Donalds?
@alphabet probably have to change it to something else. Alas, all good things must come to an end
Hamburgers here are not easily affordable
Burger Shah.
Which is good. Iranians are lazy enough as it is without an obesity epidemic
@alphabet Kashan Fried Chicken
@M.A.R. Seems like obesity rates in Iran aren't much lower than in the UK. The US still "wins" by a large margin, of course.
@M.A.R. I don't think the McRib will be popular.
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Could be worse haha.
 
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@M.A.R. That is only possible if Iran will sign any treaties regarding patents.
P.S. Patents aren't about theft.
@M.A.R. Good!
20:56
Happy Winter Solstice, everybody!
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Tomorrow will be one second longer!
Sorry, @Cerb, I can't express that in metric. ;-)
@Robusto Easy: 299792 km.
@jlliagre I wasn't talking about the speed of light, but the duration of a day.
@jlliagre BTW, have you ever measured light? How do you know it isn't 300K kilometers?
It could be 301K km for all you know. Or if it was tired, maybe 298K km.
@Robusto I wasn't either, a distance isn't a speed but 1 second = 299 792 458 m. I'm positive about it.
@jlliagre What, no cm?
That looks just a tad too convenient, methinks.
It's reported to be the exact value.
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Pfft. I call that a slipshod measurement.
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FarcherThe speed of light in a vacuum is now a fixed constant used to define the SI unit of length - the metre: The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of $\left (\dfrac {1}{299 792 458}\right)$ of a second It follows that the speed of light in v...

So it's an abstraction, not a genuine measurement.
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The only thing abstraction can't cure is too many layers of abstraction.
@jlliagre And how come everyone tends to round it off to 300 000 000 mps?
@Robusto People are like that.
Also, we have the Planck length to consider.
@jlliagre And it was possibly redefined relatively recently?
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In particle physics and physical cosmology, Planck units are a system of units of measurement defined exclusively in terms of four universal physical constants: c, G, ħ, and kB (described further below). Expressing one of these physical constants in terms of Planck units yields a numerical value of 1. They are a system of natural units, defined using fundamental properties of nature (specifically, properties of free space) rather than properties of a chosen prototype object. Originally proposed in 1899 by German physicist Max Planck, they are relevant in research on unified theories such as quantum...
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Purple and blue are probably very American, never heard of most of those.
We need a non-regional version of this game.
@Cerberus Talk to Le Monde. Or maybe the Allgemeine Zeitung?
@Robusto Okay, 299 792 458 m ± 1.616255×10−35 m
@jlliagre Thank you.
I need to recalibrate my clock.
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@Robusto Anyone can do it, it need not be a newspaper!
@jlliagre You give it a whack.
A tiny one.
@Cerberus Except it takes an entity like the New York Times to pull that off.
The yellow definition had five contenders. That's unfair.
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Oh, it wasn't easy for you either.
21:32
@jlliagre That's the genius of the puzzle. There are so many "false friends" in there. More false friends, in fact, than a conclave of speed freaks or other junkies.
@Cerberus It's not easy for me even when I get a perfect score.
@Robusto What do you mean?
@Cerberus I mean it takes a lot of work. Someone has to pay for that.
@Robusto I have seen several "less than four" groups but that's the first time I notice a "more than four" one.
@jlliagre That's probably the one I missed this morning.
@Robusto All the results posted today show an incomplete first yellow row (3/4).
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@jlliagre Yes. I first selected the "O" instead of one of the others.
@Robusto There are 1001 daily puzzles all around the Internet. You don't need that much money to make such a puzzle. E.g. When Taken.
@Robusto So did I.
@Cerberus That's a much easier puzzle to make, I think. Connections takes more craftsmanship.
You know what?
Let's try and make one.
But it's the holidays!
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22:19
Owners of Tesla Cyberchunk, a hunk of metal with no moving parts, report significant maintenance issues, explosions
@CowperKettle If you think those explosions are big, just wait till President Musk takes control of the US.
22:49
Maybe this is bad, it's untested. Probably too easy anyway.
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Proem is in dictionaries but is not a familiar word to me.
That's good!
Did you construct this, @Cerberus?
So it teases your brain a little.
@Xanne Well, that is a big word. I slapped it together.
Let me know if you come up with any guesses for quartets!
@jlliagre And what is the description of your category?
I must ask for a category in my game.
But I'm afraid your guess is not what I'm looking for: you kind of fell into the trap I laid with misleading words.
@jlliagre Is that the title of a film, perhaps?
Translated from French, yes.
So what you did is connect words to a theme; but what I am looking for is more like, "things that are x".
Or "things that mean x, have x, are inside x", etc.
@jlliagre 100% correct!
And also: maybe some of my conexions are fairly weak, and so what you find may be just as strong but simply not what I wanted.
I tried to throw in things that mislead, but it may be too much.
@jlliagre Good guess, but not what I'm looking for.
And your second item isn't 100% exactly what you call it in your description?
@Cerberus I know.
@jlliagre Correct!
@jlliagre So maybe I should have changed one of the items in your no. 3 to make what you did impossible.
But you have almost solved it anyway!
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my answers, rot13ed:

ureevat, ubg, oybbq, pbzzhavfg = nffbpvngrq jvgu erq
sebag, cvbarre, cebrz, cersvk = guvatf gung tb orsber bgure guvatf
funex, fnj, sbex, trne = guvatf jvgu grrgu
genafsvk, phg, fxrjre, tber = jbeqf sbe cvrepvat be phggvat guvatf
(You can decode that by just pasting it into rot13.com)
Can you wrap it all in Javascript?
Ah.
OK.
@alphabet Perfect!
So it was easy, right?
@Cerberus easier than the typical Connections puzzle, yes.
I feel that the 4th one may be a bit too messy anyway.
@alphabet Right. I just wanted to demonstrate to @Robusto that it's not extremely hard to slap something together in a short time.
Did it take you any time at all to solve?
@Cerberus a couple minutes
Ok that is something.
23:55
mostly because I had to type it up so that I could keep track of eliminated items
@Cerberus, oh, I got the one I missed, the description is obvious.
@alphabet Right, it is less convenient this way. I can just put it in text next time.
Which also saves me time, not needing to align things in Photoshop and such.

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