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That's because your rods suck.
So... it's Russian blue?
@tchrist all power comes from the end of a gun.
@Mitch All power comes from suns, and very nearly all of it from the sun.
At least I have a cat in my profile pic.
@DannyuNDos Which is why we love you.
00:02
@tchrist except for geothermal
And lunar.
I mean tidal.
@DannyuNDos an untapped resource
Oh.
They're slowly trying to tap that.
@Mitch Oh, is that composed strictly of the original hydrogen primaeval untarnished by time? Methinks it passed through the crucibles of one or another solar furnace.
@DannyuNDos The sun also brings the tide.
Good tidings of great joy.
00:07
Is it just me, or is Korean Burger King slowly regaining lost popularity?
@tchrist granted that any element heavier than ...what... helium? had to be produced by a nova/supernova... Those heavier elements produce heat all own their own by compression. So for the sake argumentation, I'll think of geothermal as non-fusional.
@DannyuNDos Wasn't he deposed?
@Mitch What's a nice?
@tchrist fixed
That's not correct.
@tchrist Yeah; though, the "country" persists.
00:10
Simple fusion works for while.
@DannyuNDos to be fair, I think you're the only person here with any direct experience of Korean culture, so if anyone would know, we'd ask you.
Until the first Iron Sunrise.
@Mitch Yeah...
You do not need the s- or r-process until you want (stable) nuclei heavier than iron’s.
Feta cheese. Today's gonna be the first time I try it.
00:13
Congratulations!
It's a bit chalky.
Ie not creamy like ... cheddar?
Cheddar is a hard cheese; feta, a soft one.
@tchrist Well, who knows? Our knowings of physics might change in the future, resulting in a different conclusion.
Those are technical terms not pedestrian ones.
Is there a pedestrian term for pedestrian?
@Mitch doofus
00:16
You walked all over that
It's kinda funny that Burger King's attempt to put mozzarella cheese in burgers never succeeded, while Lotteria's attempt did.
Hmm...mozzarella doesn't have much taste, it's mostly just the texture that people like
Yeah; that's why they fry it.
@DannyuNDos Like how we only very VERY recently got a glimmer about where gold and platinum and rhodium and such mostly all come from: when we caught those two neutron stars colliding through both kinds of waves: gravitational and EM.
@Mitch Buffalo?
@Mitch Oh, per favore, that's not true at all. How do you explain pizza? Lasagna? String cheese!
@Robusto salt?
@Mitch I'm from Chicago, remember. I've eaten a pound of mozzarella in a single slice of deep dish.
I thought you were Japanese?
@Robusto I'm so sorry.
@Mitch You don't have to be.
@DannyuNDos Only my wife is.
And she's a sansei anyway, so ...
00:23
Wait till I marry to a French-speaking woman.
@Robusto I know.
@Mitch I'm sorry you know that.
Thank you for your sympathy.
@Robusto Would 木下新火 Kinoshita Shinka be a plausible Japanese name for me?
@DannyuNDos What, "new fire down under?"
00:29
I don't think I have other choices for my surname.
Sorry, new tree down under.
"New fire under the tree"
Yeah. I'm still getting my brain turned around from "The Thunder Down Under" for some weird reason.
Australia's Thunder from Down Under is an Australian male revue who perform in Las Vegas and tour internationally. The show is a 90-minute, interactive performance with choreographed dance and flashing lights. Their main competitor is Chippendales. The show is co-owned by Adam Steck and founder Billy Cross. Since its debut in 1991, nearly 10 million people have watched them perform. Originally, the show uses the Australian practice of no tipping as a way to attract audiences. Their first show was in an old theater in The Frontier in '01 and booked a show in the Excalibur Hotel in '02. Since then...
I tried to make a joke using that but it went horribly wrong. Oh well.
> Arizonans complain about how hot it is while ignoring the fact that they literally live in a fucking oven.
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@DannyuNDos Better would be Newflame Underwood.
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Russian of the day: lapti (bast shoes)
Bast shoes are shoes made primarily from bast — fiber taken from the bark of trees such as linden. They are a kind of basket, woven and fitted to the shape of a foot. Bast shoes are a traditional footwear of the forest areas of Northeastern Europe, formerly worn by poorer members of the Finnic peoples, Balts, Russians, and Belarusians. They were easy to manufacture, but not durable. Similar shoes have also been made of strips of birchbark in more northern areas where bast is not readily available. Bast shoes have been worn since prehistoric times. Wooden foot-shaped blocks (lasts) for shaping...
Fish of the day: lungfish
Déjà-vu of the day: lapti
@CowperKettle do you wear socks with those or do you put your straight in next to the bark/twigs?
@Mitch Probably socks, yes
I've never worn these, and probably have never seen them up close
> I'm developing a new fragrance for introverts.
It's called: "Leave me the fuh cologne."
> If a fire hydrant has H2O inside, what does it have on the outside?
K9P.
01:42
@CowperKettle they sound similar to birch bark shoes worn by native Americans (when they weren't wearing leather moccasins.
I suppose the world over followed that pattern: first bark shoes, then wood (like Dutch clogs) and then leather shoes.
@CowperKettle It's not how much you have, it's what you do with it.
@Robusto I think plants tend to have gazillion times more genes than animals.
@Mitch Every genes except blue.
The list of organisms by chromosome count describes ploidy or numbers of chromosomes in the cells of various plants, animals, protists, and other living organisms. This number, along with the visual appearance of the chromosome, is known as the karyotype, and can be found by looking at the chromosomes through a microscope. Attention is paid to their length, the position of the centromeres, banding pattern, any differences between the sex chromosomes, and any other physical characteristics. The preparation and study of karyotypes is part of cytogenetics. == References... ==
Chromosomes though aren't necessarily the same as number of genes (or codons or however you count the length)
How about number of alleles?
01:53
Somebody who knows these things would know.
Which is to say... I don't
Sure, an allele sounds like a thing.
But...
In my defense...
> any of two or more variants of a gene that have the same relative position on homologous chromosomes and are responsible for alternative characteristics, such as smooth or wrinkled seeds in peas.
'allele' is most likely not in the Spelling Bee dictionary.
It's not in my phone's spell check dictionary.
@Mitch Good question.
If it's not in their dictionary, it ain't a word.
Them's the rules.
If it's not in their dictionary it's probably just fine.
01:58
There are more words that are words that are not in their dictionary than those that are
In their defense, I'd say ... ah, the hell with their defense. They're the New York Fucking Times. They buy ink by the barrel, So to hell with 'em.
Embodiment of the downfall of Western civilization.
Those missing words from Spelling Bee.
Partially mitigated by their excellent cooking recipes.
@Mitch Where did they buy such outdated dictionary?
Pfft some guy in a dark alley.
I wouldn't say it is outdated as much as it is missing perfectly fine words which may be on the obscure side.
Allele is one of them.
British spellings are also missing (centre, colour)
The world is not going to fall apart because of a few missing words in a game...
But...
The center is not going to hold up at its best.
I'm just sayin
Ducking golfing spell check
02:20
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> "It may mean that people with all forms of diabetes have a large potential 'reservoir' for future beta cells, just waiting to be activated by drugs like harmine." medicalxpress.com/news/…
A pill-based scheme for regeneration of insulin-producing cells
08:34
> "Wherever God erects a house of prayer
the Devil always builds a chapel there;
And 't will be found, upon examination,
the latter has the largest congregation."
Defoe of the day.
 
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Wow, I hadn't realized it was that many!
I imagine that goes hand-in-glove with excess poundage. That said, I've known skinny diabetics, but now that I think about it, they had Type 1 not Type 2.
11:44
@tchrist That's a lot.
Being overweight is a major cause?
@Vikas Yeah.
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@Robusto Can you think of any economic reason why it would cost so much money to insure one's home way out in far eastern and northeastern Colorado, respectively next to Kansas and Nebraska, where it's all rangelands and feed lots and rather fewer people, compared to the rest of the area? I cannot. Noticing how it immediately drops at the state border makes this even more suspect. There must be an easy answer but I can't figure it out.
It can't even be that there are McMansions out there the way there may be up by Aspen, which is also quite high but presumably due to wildfire risk.
The Melissa blue (Plebejus melissa) is a butterfly of the family Lycaenidae. It is found in western North America, from Canada to Mexico. == Taxonomy == The Karner blue (Plebejus samuelis) was traditionally considered a subspecies of the Melissa blue, and was described by the novelist/lepidopterist Vladimir Nabokov. == Description == The wingspan is 22–35 mm. Below, the hindwing orange submarginal band, often with distal iridescent blue points, help to distinguish this species from the more muted colors and markings of the similar Plebejus idas. The marginal line is wider where the vein...
It's a pretty one, and commonly seen here. I'm surprised to learn that it was named by Nabokov!!
The butterflies we call "blues" are found all over the circumboreal world.
Their host plants are legumes like lupines and alfalfa. They're endangered in some states, possibly due to the pesticides on alfalfa.
Plebejus is a genus of butterflies in the family Lycaenidae. Its species are found in the Palearctic and Nearctic realms. == Taxonomy == As a result of studies of molecular phylogenetics, numerous species that were included in Plebejus by some authors at the beginning of the 21st century have now been moved to separate genera again. These species may be found in Afarsia, Alpherakya, Agriades, Aricia, Eumedonia, Icaricia, Kretania, Maurus, Pamiria, Patricius, Plebejidea, Plebulina, and Rueckbeilia. == Species == Species include: The ardis species-group: Plebejus eversmanni (Lang, 1884) Kopet...
"realms"
I wonder why their genus name means plebeian! Common not patrician?
The nomenclatural act establishing that name occurred in 1780 by Polish entomologist Jan Krzysztof Kluk.
> Kluk described several taxa of Lepidoptera including the Holarctic Nymphalis, the South American genus Heliconius, and the genus Danaus in which is placed the monarch.
12:29
Julia Lorraine Hill (born February 18, 1974), best known as Julia Butterfly Hill, is an American environmental activist and tax redirection advocate. She lived in a 200-foot (61 m)-tall, approximately 1,000-year-old California redwood tree for 738 days between December 10, 1997, and December 18, 1999. Hill lived in a tent near the top of a tree, affectionately known as Luna, to prevent Pacific Lumber Company loggers from cutting it down. She ultimately reached an agreement with the lumber company to save the tree. Hill is the author of the book The Legacy of Luna (2000) and co-author of One Makes...
I just came across a mention of her on Twitter
I wonder how she washed herself and did other things while on the tree, or maybe she was allowed to crawl down
13:04
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Q: Does English have an equivalent to the Arabic "Far away from you"?

user151577Arabic has an idiomatic expression which translates as "Far away from you". Is there something similar in English? If something low or contemptible is cited the expression usually immediately follows it in a sentence, to diminish the ignobility, impudence and lowliness in it or believed to be in...

This is something to do with high-context vs low-context thingamajig, isn't it?
Generally, I think that Americans (and the English, too, although perhaps to a lesser degree) would feel free to mention excrescence in a conversation with a respected person (in these more superficially egalitarian societies there is less differentiation applied to authority figures) without the listener feeling that the speaker is vulgarly associating him with the excrescence.
Perhaps even with a president. I'm not saying this is how one should talk with a president, I'm just making observations. It is, perhaps, not even beyond the pale for a president himself to allude to excrescences. Again, I'm not saying this is how a president should talk...
You may have noticed that I am showing respect for you all by not using any one of the more vulgar, convenient and phonosemantic Germanic words for "excrescence".
Far be it from you to fill in the blanks yourselves.
13:54
@Conrado Excrescence or excrement?
14:04
> Les piles et batteries se recyclent.
@jlliagre ^^^^ Those are two different things??
@Conrado ’Twould have been beneath you.
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A: « Pile » ou « batterie »

jlliagre Quelle est la différence entre une pile et une batterie ? En France et quand ce mot s'applique à un équipement fournissant de l'électricité, batterie a commencé à être utilisé comme raccourci de batterie d'accumulateurs, ensemble d'éléments rechargeables stockant et fournissant de l’électric...

@tchrist These are the foundational issues that the "reading wars" are being fought over.
14:22
@tchrist Yes, there's an easy answer: Because they can.
@tchrist How can someone finish a poetry collection "in an evening"? I mean, you can read the words, perhaps, but each poem ought to be too deep for that.
@tchrist Executive summary: Yes, they often look alike but they are different things.
Does the Bourbaki still have a following in France?
I've discovered an important fact about YouTube. If you see something in your feed that piques your interest, better click on it now because you'll probably never see it again. The stuff you have no interest in, though, keeps showing up like a bad penny.
@jlliagre I did read it through. Rechargeability seems to be most of it. But then I got a phone call from a friend trying to decide which side of the Strait of Gibraltar to send her two young sons to (coming from Leeds) for Christmas week. So was distracted.
@Robusto The commercials on YouTube have turned me off.
14:35
@think_meaning_buildß There are commercials on uTube?
Yup, if you're too lazy to get a blocker.
@think_meaning_buildß You need to turn them off.
@think_meaning_buildß As my gambler son would say, "That's loser talk."
They force feed you them for 30 sec
I'm untroubled by that, since I never see them.
That would be too annoying to long endure.
There should be an auto-skip mechanism, or, failing that, an auto-mute mechanism but that's less appealing.
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I scored 862/1000🏆

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2️⃣📍363 km - 🗓️2 yrs - 🥇186/200
3️⃣📍1.8K km - 🗓️8 yrs - 🥈144/200
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5️⃣📍1.7K km - 🗓️10 yrs - 🥈141/200

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#WhenTaken #293 (16.12.2024)

I scored 796/1000🏅

1️⃣📍116 km - 🗓️12 yrs - 🥈174/200
2️⃣📍1.0K km - 🗓️33 yrs - 🥉72/200
3️⃣📍11.6 km - 🗓️10 yrs - 🥇184/200
4️⃣📍1.0 km - 🗓️3 yrs - 🥇197/200
5️⃣📍653 km - 🗓️8 yrs - 🥈169/200

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@think_meaning_buildß beta blocker?
@Robusto hope it's not the cancer researcher that's gambling.
@M.A.R. they put up blockers to block blockers.
@M.A.R. Heh, nope. That one's games are all video.
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@MetaEd You'll never get the connection today. But you might surprise me.
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Whelp, brain rot is the word of the year.
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@jlliagre I think this one was impossible for anyone who didn't grow up in the US.
@jlliagre I mean, it would be like the average American knowing, say, that the French drink Orangina comes in bottles that are rounded (like oranges) at the bottom.
If those still are, I mean.
@Robusto What? Americans don't know it? Losers! ;-)
@jlliagre ;-)
@alphabet Seriously? You're quoting Wikipedia at me?
@jlliagre [Don't know that?]
15:46
@Robusto I might have found the yellow row with thinking a little bit more.
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Does the Bourbaki still have a following in France?
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@jlliagre Even I had trouble with today's Connection. Spoiler
@think_meaning_buildß The beast is still alive: bourbaki.fr
"... black hole of health insurance premiums only to discover that when the time finally comes to use their insurance, when the leg breaks or the car crashes or the gun accidentally goes off, their health insurance company is there not to help them but to deny their claim, bankrupt them with deductibles and copays, and give them the runaround until their spirit is broken and they just give up and wait to die. "
Somehow I thought they'd get the whole quote.
16:11
@jlliagre does the beast still direct how math is taught in highschool?
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@Robusto Surprise.
@jlliagre Oh.
@think_meaning_buildß I can't tell. When I see him, I'll ask about it to my neighbor who teach maths.
I meant excrement.
16:27
@Conrado That's what I guessed. I was confused by your thingamajig though.
@MetaEd Sorry, I meant that for @jlliagre. I figured you would do just fine.
@jlliagre the math department where I once worked named all its Sun workstations for mathematicians -- they named the offline spare "bourbaki" because it was not actually a mathematician
They really missed their opportunity though -- should've named it "noether"
@Robusto That's what I guessed too :-)
@MetaEd I miss Sun. I used to work near their campus in Burlington. A great place to do a lunch walk.
Now Oracle owns it.
16:52
Sun? What is this? Is it the light thingy that people in the south keep alluding to?
@tchrist What did you see, exactly?
@Cerberus Sorry, we can't share that information. It is forbidden to share it with the Great White North.
That's all right, we would probably be unable to comprehend the concept anyway.
There is a reason why Holland literally means Flatland.
No bright balls in the sky would be able to reach all the way down to these depths.
On the plus side you don't get a lot of skin cancer.
"Skin cancer? What's that?" I seem to hear you saying.
True!
Just the hideous deformations caused by deficiency of vitamin D.
I mean, how many people near you have three heads.
@Cerberus Zero.
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I have never heard of that final word.
17:28
MYT Spelling Bee accepts petit. Who would have guessed?
@Robusto anyone who experiences petit-mal seizures, for one
17:56
@MetaEd Well, they have ruled out similar words from French constructions in the past.
18:12
@Robusto I didn't know that Oracle has a hardware branch. So do they now own SPARC chips and still use them too? Is the Sun Labs location in Burlington still operating but under Oracle?
@GratefulDisciple Oracle bought Sun a while ago.
It was a closeout sale.
@Robusto Yes, I just found out from Wikipedia. I used to use Sun workstation when I was studying. I'm now wondering whether their SPARC chips are still in use.
@GratefulDisciple I have no idea.
I haven't seen news about SPARC in quite a while.
@Robusto Neither do I. Looks like they still do, and they're working with Fujitsu.
I think SPARC chips became one example architecture that I studied when I took the computer architecture class.
The SPARC T-series family of RISC processors and server computers, based on the SPARC V9 architecture, was originally developed by Sun Microsystems, and later by Oracle Corporation after its acquisition of Sun. Its distinguishing feature from earlier SPARC iterations is the introduction of chip multithreading (CMT) technology, a multithreading, multicore design intended to drive greater processor utilization at lower power consumption. The first generation T-series processor, the UltraSPARC T1, and servers based on it, were announced in December 2005. As later generations were introduced, the term...
It's amazing that CPU architecture is still around.
@GratefulDisciple Was that in the '90s sometime?
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@Robusto Yes. I'm sure by now they would pick ARM architecture or the Apple one to study. And also Nvidia chip as an example for graphics processor being used in machine learning.
@GratefulDisciple it's on its knees though
RISC was one of the the Big New Things in the '90s, but that was then, this is now.
@MetaEd I see. Which are the top CPUs used in that segment nowadays? I didn't keep up the CPU architecture for huge servers.
@GratefulDisciple Got me
@Robusto Yup, that's way before multicore chips became the trend.
Oracle still keep the Solaris brand, I wonder who would buy them.
@MetaEd I heard good things about Sun (as a company), turns out Satya Nadella once worked for them too. I heard good things about Sun (as a company). I remember fondly their motto "the network is the computer" as illustrated by NFS which I used and sometimes hated because of the network infrastructure that wasn't that reliable (this is before 1Gbps Cat 6, the network still used coax cable and its vampire taps).
Well, I finished Dan Jones's Henry V. My view of Henry had been strongly filtered through Shakespeare, but now, having seen him in his underclothes, I am less impressed.
He nearly bankrupted England to fund his conquest of France (which was, to his way of thinking, "rightfully his") and brought untold suffering on the citizenry of both countries.
Henry V was an object lesson for what Donald Trump could (will?) be if he were smarter and more energetic.
So far Trump's ineptitude is still his best feature.
@GratefulDisciple I personally did almost zero thickwire Ethernet. But I did a lot of thinwire Ethernet. From time to time you'd have a network outage and have to go from office to office to find where somebody'd kicked the cable and broken it
you used to need an expensive TDR to debug your thickwire Ethernet
these days, equivalent tech is often built into switches themselves so you can just run a reflection test and find the break without any separate equipment
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@MetaEd I guess they were using Cat -1 cabling?
@Robusto it was a heavy coaxial cable
@MetaEd Just jokin'.
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@MetaEd Nice. Plus Cat6 is so reliable and interference-resistant, and the topology can be adjusted easily with intermediary switches. Compared to those 10Base5 Ethernet I haven't had physical network issue (as a user) for a long time, both at work and at home.
@Robusto I believe it was 10Base5, lots of picture here.
@GratefulDisciple I remember 10BaseT
@Robusto That's probably already very similar to Cat-x cable. When I do my own network at home, I started with Cat4, I think.
Does anyone remember Token Ring?
@Robusto Oh yes. In my university at the time, the IT department boasted that they do campus-wide token ring with fiber optic cables.
@GratefulDisciple Hence my Cat -1 joke. Which fell flat.
> In 2012, David S. Miller merged a patch to remove token ring networking support from the Linux kernel.
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@Robusto Because I did remember Cat 1 cable was the next generation, using twisted pair.
@GratefulDisciple I believe that was simply called "twisted pair" at the time.
@Robusto Hence the "T" in 10-Base T?
Nice picture:
Not sure. I never worried about networks in those days. That was someone else's job.
I'm not even sure what I would use for cabling, since everything is WiFi now in my house.
@Robusto Me neither. At work (where I doubled as my department sysadmin), I just relied on being provided a Cat5 port that has enough throughput and reliability, and possibly a second Cat5 port for the secondary network interface.
I used the Cat5 cable to connect computers inside the flat, back in the early 2000s
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@Robusto I'm still old school to hook up the main backbone of my Wifi Mesh set up with Cat6 cable. Nothing beats the throughput and reliability of wired network!
@Robusto U of Iowa used a lot of token ring. I, fortunately, was not the one managing it
I just looked at the devices I have that are wired into the router and they're using Cat 6. So I'm at least two generations behind the time.
@Robusto I think Cat7 and above are not sufficiently mainstream for consumers yet, I would see them at my work data center though, especially for connecting the physical VM hosts to their data in a SAN.
U of Iowa had a bunch of Apollo workstations all token ringed together
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As I recall, Cat6 is kind of a scam; for typical present-day residential internet connections it provides no speed benefits compared to Cat5e.
Yes.
Dog3 is the superior standard.
@alphabet That's probably true for most residential installations, but now that Cat6 cable is not that more expensive, I believe you can run it at longer distances with less packet drops. So my question is: if you need 50-100 ft distance, is Cat6 worth it? How can one measure the # of packet drops (and the associated automatic retries required)?
Twice as cheap, twice as loyal.
@GratefulDisciple I believe the answer is still no. If you're running wires through the walls of your house, it might be worth it to use Cat6, because hypothetically it may someday be the case that ordinary home networks have speeds high enough to take advantage of Cat6 and you won't want to have to rewire things then.
@alphabet I just bought what was on the shelf at MicroCenter. My setup hasn't changed since then.
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@alphabet I actually maxed out my 1 Gbps bandwidth when transferring video files between computers, since SSD throughput can easily exceeds it.
@GratefulDisciple Yes, networking between computers on the same network can max out Ethernet connections. Though the best way to do that is to connect the computers to each other directly (assuming they're in close proximity).
(You used to need specialized "crossover" Ethernet cables for this sort of wizardry but no longer.)
I use something like this which is cheap enough, don't know whether the thin shielding actually delivers 250 MHz that Cat6 should provide.
@alphabet In my use case, the 2 computers are on separate floors and separate ends of the house, so I do need the 1Gbps, if not to support 10Gbps one day when 10Gbps NIC and switches become more affordable. "crossover" Ethernet cables bring back memories.
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@GratefulDisciple Actually, neither Oracle does nor Sun did own the SPARC architecture which is, unlike most if not all other CPU architecture, fully open and free to use assuming you know how to design a chip and have it built. Fujitsu still builds SPARC based chips on servers sold by both Fujitsu and Oracle.
 
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@jlliagre I didn't realize that, but reading Wikipedia the design was entrusted to SPARC international trade group since 1989.
@MetaEd Yup, you're right. In that same article, it says Fujitsu will discontinue their SPARC production in 2027 in favor of their own ARM-based CPU.
@GratefulDisciple Sales in 2029, and Oracle Solaris 11.4 is supported until 2034.
@Robusto But the RISC principle lives on though, isn't ARM chips RISC? Also, looks like now there is a 3rd kid on the block besides Intel x86 and ARM: RISC-V, considered by MIT Technology Review magazine to be one of 2023's 10 breakthrough technologies.
@jlliagre Yup, consistent with what the Wikipedia article says about the chip's EOL from Fujitsu. Not sure about the fate of its Open source implementations.
There are also systems running Solaris 11.4 on x86 hardware.
21:43
@jlliagre Yes, I remember when they first marketed Solaris to PC users. Didn't expect they to continue this long, in the era of Linux.
21:54
@GratefulDisciple First Solaris on x86 release was in 1993. Linux distributions were very unreliable/unfinished at that time. Solaris was unreliable too but became rock solid starting from 1995, even more in 2005 with Solaris 10.
@jlliagre I see. You seem to know a lot about SPARC and Solaris. Yes, Linux was still a baby back then.
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