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@Robusto What changed is that people decided to get lots of gold badges every time they hit another another 1k reviews or whatnot. It used to be only 1 but now it is many. Go ahead and give it for editors, sure, but closers? Hm.
@Robusto What changed is that people decided to get lots of gold badges every time they hit another another 1k reviews or whatnot. It used to be only 1 but now it is many. Go ahead and give it for editors, sure, but closers? Hm.
@Cerberus Like liquor and buoy and buoyant? :) We don't have many "uo" words in English. Notice how buoy is /buwi/ and buoyant is /ˈbojənt/ while liquor has no /u/ or /w/ at all.
So buoyant is just a boy with an ant. :)
How do you guys say buoyant over there then? /ˈbwojənt/ or something?
I know the Brits have some strange buoy that doesn't sound like a Bowie knife at all.
So where our boyish buoyant has a "silent u", our buoy has a "silent o" instead since it's just /ˈbuwi/.
Notice how languor also lacks any /u/ or any /w/.
Ditto liquorice.
Which ends like fish does: smelly and unpalatable.
I wonder which "u" is "silent" in vacuum /ˈvækjum/. :)
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@tchrist Not sure, I guess just a very weak u/w?
Buoy I would pronounce the same as buoyant.
No /buwi/, I should think.
Even though that is very close to Dutch boei.
So like "bwaw" + "ee"?
Maybe /buj/ in Dutch.
Oe is always u.
Or there ought to be a trema on the e.
I meant in English. That Dutch version looks like it sounds more like our /buwi/, just that we've split syllables and you have not.
(I think qu and gu are incomparable btw.)
@tchrist More or less. The i becomes a glide /j/.
Yeah, I don't know what to say about languor except that it merits no "u". :)
Probably just from French orthography?
Oh, both have boys.
Apparently.
But we have a close /oj/ for that diphthong that they do not recognize.
They REALLY need to use glides more.
They managed it in the last one. Why not the others? Senseless.
Now that I think about it...
When I really try to pronounce boy like /bɔj/, it doesn't sound great.
It sounds better when I try to do /bɔɪ/.
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@tchrist Two for the price of one!
@Cerberus I don't think I know how to distinguish those. Could you try with a close /o/ so /boj/ or /boɪ/? We don't want the THOUGHT vowel there.
Oh, I am not good with o's.
I always get a kick out of Brits' baroque sounding like bar + AWK, whereas ours is burr + OAK.
That's the difference between the open and close o's.
Bonus question: define the sound of a clopen o.
For your clopidogrel?
doggerel yclept
In his sunken cyclopean halls where dead Cthulhu lies dreaming hadean dreams.
...to die to dream...
ay, there's the rub
Hastur rules.
@tchrist Hmm I didn't even know that, I would have pronounced it oak, I think.
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@think_meaning_buildß Between Cthylla and Charybdis.
Yet, the clopen exists.
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@think_meaning_buildß Actually, it's "To die, to sleep ... to sleep, perchance to dream. Aye, there's the rub."
Please pardon my lack of Shakespearean details.
Me Lord.
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Thus far with rough and all-unable pen
Our bending author hath pursued the story,
In little room confining mighty men,
Mangling by starts the full course of their glory.
Small time, but in that small most greatly lived
This star of England. Fortune made his sword,
By which the world’s best garden he achieved
And of it left his son imperial lord.
Word of the day: deficit reverse lunge
02:39
Looks...silly.
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Moscow policemen have detained a robotic dog that was delivering illegal drugs
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Sounds like an expensive vehicle.
 
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@Mitch Well, I did that intentionally. With a much lower number of questions, it’s easier for a few users to dominate the site, to the exclusion of others. Same point, really.
 
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@Mitch @Robusto I didn’t realize the number of votes was site-wide. So there will be no help from rule changes.
 
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If I were Trump, I’d consider events in South Korea a cautionary tale.
But then there’s Georgia and Syria. A lot to be cautious about.
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I wonder if "free urinary cortisol" that's 80% higher than the upper limit really means anything or not. I don't trust local endocrinologists.. I know that a dexamethasone challenge test will most likely be normal, since I went through the whole story back in 2018, along with kidney MRI scans..
Physical exertion most likely brings up bouts of elevated cortisol in me, and they come along with this state in which I feel a kind of 'excitation' in my brain and I become emotional
 
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I remember being in Canada back in the twencen and seeing signs on restaurants that said "No singlets" and it taking me a moment to understand that they didn't mean something like "no unaccompanied minors" or "no underaged single people" but rather "no tank tops". :)
Isn't it strange how different that pair's distribution is between the English Fiction and the American English corpora?
My experience was in Vancouver over in British Columbia, which is a bit dressy of a town compared with say Seattle or Portland.
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A man walks in to a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm.

He says to the bartender, “Two beers please. One for me, and one for the road.”
Tank top completely dominates in the their English Fiction corpus, really only appearing in the 1970s but then accelerating in relative use over singlet until today the latter is seen an order of magnitude less often than the former. And yet in the US and UK the two are much closer together, but only "recently", and even then in opposite distributions.
@CowperKettle Travelling under the duress of an ass fault is a world of butt hurt.
Bad burritos are ubiquitous.
"singlets"
A 2020 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year.
Another recent study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.
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@CowperKettle I find it surprising that that's saying that the average American walks 900 miles per year. That's nearly 2½ miles per day. I would have guessed that most sedentary office slaves walk no more than couple of hundred yards daily, if that. Strangely, my internet probes suggest my guess quite off and yours a good bit closer to the mark.
Ah!
I also thought it was strange. I picked the joke from Reddit.
A friend translator wrote to me half a year ago that all her physical exercise consists of going up the stairs upon returning from the mall.
People drive everywhere here.
@CowperKettle yep
12:44
The US is known for tackling some issue energetically. Since it has an issue with obesity, I expect it to tackle it. Maybe some reforms will be made.
> A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey of physical inactivity in America between 2017 and 2020 found over a fourth of each state’s population, on average, reported they hadn’t exercised in the past month outside of their job.
I think that my chronically elevated cortisol is wrecking my cognition. I thought that antidepressants tackled that after 2018, but looks like it's still at about 80% above the upper limit. I should do a re-check to make sure.
That's number of walks per day per hundred people by state average.
Nevada.
Nevada is 31 daily walks among a hundred people. I wonder why it's higher than its surrounding states.
> Strenuous exercise provokes increases in circulating cortisol levels. When the peak cortisol response to exercise occurs is a point of contention, as some research suggests the peak response coincides with the end of exercise while other indicate it is delayed and occurs during recovery.
Still, if only ⅙ to ⅓ of the populace ever "takes a walk/stroll" in any given day, I wonder how the national average can be so high.
Perhaps it comes down to a matter of definitions.
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@tchrist Yes, that's why I took a whole day of rest during which I collected the urine for the test
> Data from transportation analytics company StreetLight shows that residents of the District of Columbia and the states of New York and New Jersey walked the most in 2022, with an average of 42, 38 and 32 walking trips per day and 100 people in 2022. The majority of the remaining states in the top 10 like California, Nevada, Utah or Massachusetts are either small or highly urbanized according to an analysis by Iowa State University based on 2010 data.
Next time, I'll take 2 days off, with collection on the second day.
At the blood testing lab, they know me by my face, despite the fact that I last visited them 2 years ago. That's because I kept measuring my cortisol dozens of times in 2018.
I was suddenly unable to work, and my cortisol was high.
@CowperKettle Are you under mental stress causing high cortisol levels, or the other way around? Hard to separate out.
> One study found that a diet high in added sugar and saturated fat can cause higher cortisol levels than a diet high in fruits, vegetables and whole grains. Dietary fiber from beans, nuts and seeds can also help keep cortisol levels stable.
There's also a tie in with blood sugar issues.
@tchrist Yes, could be anxiety → cortisol.
But of course many diseases and medications also affect this.
12:57
I think I was wrongly diagnosed with diabetes in 2000 because basically cortisol caused my sugar to increase briefly
@CowperKettle That does sound likely.
A positive and nonborderline DM diagnosis will almost certainly require a sustained hemoglobin A1c figure that keeps coming in above 7.0 across multiple quarters; was yours?
And people with higher baseline cortisol levels get anxiety disorders more often. I found a study. And they tend to have avoidance more often, and I've been avoiding mail and private messages for the last 4 years.
@tchrist No, my A1C were always very good
@CowperKettle Then I cannot understand why they interpreted the temporary elevation as DM.
Privately, at each hospitalization, they told me "we don't know what's up with you, it's something complicated, but we'll write it down as diabetes"
DAMN!!!
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There were 4 hospitalizations, and each time they wrote down "diabetes" in the papers.
On the 5th time, I demanded a test to check whether my body produces enough insulin.
They did the test, and voila. My body produces enough insulin, and my sugars are fine.
I have several friends who long endured many long years of misdiagnosed endocrine issues.
The hospitalizations were in 2000, 2003, 2010, 2011, and 2023.
Insulin resistance is an important test.
The test where you take 75 g of glucose?
They drew blood in the morning, and checked it for sugar and C peptide. Immediately after the sampling, I took 75 g of glucose, and they drew blood 2 hours later, and checked for the same parameters. That's how it became clear that I had no diabetes.
C peptide levels clearly showed that my pancreas secretes enough insulin.
I did these tests by myself in about 2015, and visited my local endocrinologist, but she said "so what, your diabetes is of this kind, that appears then disappears, then appears again"
One friend of mine recently got diagnosed with Type 3 Glycogen Storage Disease (GSD3) after decades of weird diagnoses that never panned out.
@CowperKettle yes
There's also some other test I'm trying to remember right now.
The microalbumin / creatinine urine ratio test is one of them.
Found it: it's the total serum insulin test that I'd been trying to remember. It's measured in uIU/mL.
Apparently code INSLR for "Insulin, Random".
> Useful For: Assessing free (bioactive) insulin concentrations in patients with known or suspected anti-insulin antibodies. Not recommended to diagnose diabetes mellitus.
Oh interesting.
> This test reacts on a nearly equimolar basis with the analogs insulin aspart, insulin glargine, and insulin lispro. Insulin detemir exhibits approximately 50 percent cross-reactivity. Test reactivity with insulin glulisine is negligible (< 3 percent). To convert to pmol/L, multiply µIU/mL by 6.0.
Time to walk the dark till dawn.
 
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@tchrist I would bet that NY skews up because of Manhattan and DC from the area around K Street.
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Marketplace post of the day: giant glory dh antiguo solo por renovación lo use asta en el cerro así no le pasó nada I evn used it on the hill like that and nothing happened to it , just $80 for this frame.
With this picture:
Cracked aluminum is OK, right up until the moment when it isn't.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. This one made me taste trail dust mixed with broken teeth.
I had to google to understand what it was.
Ah, sorry. Yes, that is the item in its factory glory.
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@jlliagre It's obviously a mountain bike frame.
@Robusto I should have look closer :-)
@jlliagre Hey, that's my line! (Especially when it comes to reading instructions.) ;-)
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@Robusto Don't you wonder how I managed to locate WhenTaken #5?
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A growling stomach is a puppy: 'Hush, puppy.' A fart is a duck: 'Oops, I stepped on a duck.' (Turns around and looks for imaginary duck.) What is a belch? I can't remember. Anyway, they're all animal sounds, supposedly, because polite people wouldn't do those things. Early 20th Century, probably earlier and in different contexts, I'm sure.
Nobody owns 'hush, puppy'
Like nobody owns, 'Shut up, dog'
Haha, really though
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@GratefulDisciple changing the threshold from 5 down to 3 was instituted a couple years ago because a lot of people thought ELU was deluged with poor questions and they wanted to close them faster. Luckily the # reopen votes (per question) also went down so those questions that people were too happy to pull a trigger on but were actually quality questions could be more easily reopened. I am personally very happy to pull the trigger on reopening. Almost always.
(sometimes there -are- dumb questions on the close queue, but as far as I can tell, not many...maybe the truly dumb questions are removed so quickly that I don't have a chance to see how truly dumb they are (ie maybe the lower threshold is doing a good job).
But my view is that there is a small group of close voters that just like to press buttons, and it is removing good questions (though maybe not well written.. that's what editing is for).
But...
The fix that @Xanne is suggesting to remedy the problem is to put a cap on the number of times a user can close vote (ie not a different threshold on the question, but a cap on the user).
What Xanne just realized for us is that cap is currently set at 20 per day (per user) and is site wide (ie you can do a little editing on ELU and little on SE and a little on Cooking but together the cap is 20 for all, not 20 for each site.
So the desire for a change in the cap is probably not likely to occur (way too many changes to the system).
@alphabet haha same here!
@Xanne Yes, that was probably a more diplomatically proposed solution than I was thinking to get the same end.
@Xanne argh
Wawawawait. Hold on!
What the heck is happening in S. Korea?
I miss out on the news for a week and the world suddenly gets more interesting.
So lemme get this straight. The president pressed a red button, declared martial law, then was all like "whoops, sorry", and now they're impeaching him for it?
@CowperKettle regulation -and- a huge decades long PR campaign worked pretty well to reduce smoking.
I feel like I'm missing crucial context here.
@Mitch I read that "religion". Religions would have been pretty cool if they stopped smoking.
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Alcohol use... is reducing a lot in the US but the only regulations and campaigns (but still decades long) has been about drunk driving
It feels like the one thing religion can be good for. A societal emergency break.
Awareness of obesity has been discussed in the US for -ever- (ok also decades) and there's only been PR and capitalism (selling of gym memberships and health food) that have addressed it, but obesity in the US (and the world! The US is as usual just better at it than most everybody except for Mexico and Saudi Arabia) but obesity in the US has been skyrocketing in the past 10 years (it was bad before but much worse now).
The Persian Tobacco Protest (Persian: نهضت تنباکو, romanized: nehzat-e tanbāku) was a Twelver Shia Muslim revolt in Qajar Iran against an 1890 tobacco concession granted by Emperor Naser al-Din Shah Qajar to the British Empire, granting control over growth, sale, and export of tobacco to an Englishman, Major G. F. Talbot. The protest was held by merchants in major cities such as Tehran, Shiraz, Mashhad, and Isfahan in solidarity with the clerical establishment. It climaxed in a widely obeyed December 1891 fatwa against tobacco use issued by Grand Ayatollah Mirza Shirazi. == Background == Beginning...
But in the other direction, the pharmaceutical industry is 'solving' obesity (and probably many other obesity related problems) with a weekly injection of GLP-1 agonists (Ozempic/Wegovy/Mounjaro = semaglutide and tirzepatide).
So capitalism may well solve obesity.
@M.A.R. some religions are into the abstinence thing. It works for Mormons... I don't think they even drink tea (because of the copious caffeine).
And the people in withdrawal can go self-fornicate.
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@M.A.R. My understanding (which is probably a gross overstatement of my abilities here) is that the 'whoops, sorry' wasn't sincere enough (or rather no one actually like the prime minister?)
@M.A.R. That escalated quickly.
@M.A.R. I'm sure religion is fine as it is. It's just that a bunch of old men use it to impose their weird neuroses on everyone else. "I don't like pork. Therefore, -no one- can have it."
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@Mitch And this is exactly why I was always against that change.
@M.A.R. Correct.
It happened at night.
@M.A.R. The context is that Korean politics are highly polarised, and the president faces a parliament dominated by the opposition, so that he cannot do much.
And he has been blocking investigations against corruption by his wife.
@CowperKettle 86.4 percent of all statistics are made up.
A few decades ago, Korea was a military dictatorship, which is perhaps why martial law is so easily accessible via the constitution.
But the population abhor it.
And his own party also protested against it.
His approval rating was already very low anyway.
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@jlliagre You saw the zero on my #5?
@Mitch Thanks for the background. Yes, many times I also feel that 5 is too high a threshold for reopening for Christianity.SE. I wish we can choose 5 for threshold to close but 3 to open. And wow, I didn't realize there's a cap of only 20 editing sitewide. I have never reached my limit.
The number should scale with the number of experienced users available.
@Mitch OK, I don't see why alcohol use is as bad as obesity... alcohol abuse has always been the problematic part. I mean, people can have some and be fine. Too much is bad for you and can upset your metabolism and metabolistic organs. Too much food, ditto. On the other hand, I can't see how any amount of inhaled smoke can really be recommended unless there's no other way to administer some chemical like nicotine (which I can perhaps imagine being prescribed medically)
I'm presently a teetotaler, myself, (I'm part of a group of Christians who are agreed together not to consume alcoholic drinks), but I don't see how society as a whole would be improved by completely eliminating alcohol consumption. I mean, there have to be some people who can do it responsibly, and they should be allowed to exercise that responsibility, I think...
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Even small quantities of alcohol are carcinogenic.
But the way I see it, responsible food use is more critical, because everyone has to learn it--you can't survive long without eating.
But, yes, much less so than larger quantities or smoke.
@Cerberus Ah, I didn't know that. But is it an important risk, or is it like coffee that the medics like to recommend against one week and for the next, just to keep people on their toes?
@Conrado Is coffee at all carcinogenic?
For society as a whole, very low alcohol consumption probably doesn't add too much to the total number of cases of cancer.
@Cerberus Well, I don't know, I just read the popular medic columns in the newspapers, and it seems like they keep changing their minds about whether it's good for you or not, and the reasons keep changing too. I had the impression that it must not be statistically clear, and so I drink my coffee because I like it (but in moderation, because excesses are not healthy).
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But that is not about carcinogenicity, is it?
There is no doubt that alcohol in small quantities is carcinogenic.
@Cerberus No, I really don't think so, although I never took enough care to understand the arguments properly
@Cerberus I see, that is indeed interesting.
@M.A.R. He tried to arrest all (most?) members of Parliament to stop them from holding a vote to end the martial law, but didn't manage to stop it in time. After Parliament voted to end it, he at first said he'd continue it anyway, before much later backing down.
@Mitch Tea and coffee are banned. Soda is fine, though, as are other sources of caffeine.
@Conrado Any amount of alcohol is bad for your health, but higher levels are proportionately worse. Of course, at low levels the health effects are fairly trivial. According to the Canadian govt, which updated their guidelines based on recent research, 1-2 drinks per week poses a minimal health risk.
> 0 drinks per week — Not drinking has benefits, such as better health, and better sleep.
2 standard drinks or less per week — You are likely to avoid alcohol-related consequences for yourself or others at this level.
> 3–6 standard drinks per week — Your risk of developing several types of cancer, including breast and colon cancer, increases at this level.
7 standard drinks or more per week — Your risk of heart disease or stroke increases significantly at this level.
@Conrado Yes, those vacillations of opinions one reads in a news aggregator headlines drive me crazy. Reminds me the miller, his son, and the donkey story. So I'm like you, just drink my coffee in moderation until I have time to read a nutrition textbook to help me put a study-find in context to assess the study's level of certainty and relevancy to my case.
@alphabet Are you sure it is proportional and not e.g. squared?
@GratefulDisciple Or just accept minor risks.
@Cerberus I don't know what the exact formula is.
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I wonder.
@Cerberus Sure, that works. Maybe driving in winter weather has higher risk than my cup of coffee in the morning.
I wouldn't know about that.
@GratefulDisciple People used to think small amounts of alcohol were good for you. That research was nearly all funded by companies that make alcoholic beverages and has now been conclusively refuted.
But skiing certainly has a high risk, compared to other things one does in life.
@alphabet Yes, that's another factor to consider: who is funding the study.
@Cerberus In my case, I want to have a lifestyle that can increase my longevity, which is really hard to quantify but yet if I don't start (like making annual contribution to retirement fund) will be too late once there is a definitive study.
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A microlife is a unit of risk representing half an hour change of life expectancy. Discussed by David Spiegelhalter and Alejandro Leiva, and also used by Lin et al. for decision analysis, microlives are intended as a simple way of communicating the impact of a lifestyle or environmental risk factor, based on the associated daily proportional effect on expected length of life. Similar to the micromort (one in a million probability of death) the microlife is intended for "rough but fair comparisons between the sizes of chronic risks". This is to avoid the biasing effects of describing risks in relative...
Of course many of these numbers have high degrees of uncertainty.
The "first drink of alcohol" is outdated: any amount of alcohol is now deemed harmful (thought not very).
Anyway, I try to stick with the obvious: limit sodium to daily nutrition guideline, watchful for # of added sugar (now shown in the nutrition label), limit red meat & high cholesterol food source, limit saturated fat, eat my fruit & veggie, and do at least 150 minute walking per week. And do my annual lab works.
I think alcohol consumption matters more than the rest of those nutritional things, in moderation.
@Cerberus Thanks, that's a good measure to cover all kinds of activities, not just eating.
Oh, and burned food / barbecue is between alcohol and the rest, pretty carcinogenic.
You know what the flavour of barbecued food really is, don't you?
@Cerberus There goes one of my favorite 😞, maybe need to compensate with positive-generating microlife activity. It doesn't help that my IT work keeps me sedentary 8 hours a day.
20:16
Ah, don't worry too much. If you avoid the worst factors, the rest are probably dwarfed by other factors which you cannot change.
Like cosmic radiation, air pollution, genetics.
@Cerberus yes. Makes sense how primary care doctor wants to know the history of your parents' age and conditions.
Mine have never asked me that?
Only when you are suffering from something they cannot identify?
@Cerberus Maybe you're still young. No, when I moved to Canada and had to find a new primary care doctor, that's part of the general questionnaire. This is even though (thankfully) I don't have any condition except high blood pressure. Same goes for my wife who doesn't have any condition.
I'm 41, you?
So based on my parents' history, she recommends me to take statin, which is generating 1 microlive per day.
@Cerberus Sorry, I prefer not to say, but not much older, but in the bracket where I definitely have to be more conscious of my habits.
20:24
Okay.
I don't think Dutch doctors would ever recommend medicines based only on family.
@Cerberus Of course not. For statin there is a scoring system; forgot what it is. IIRC, my doctor probably use the Framingham Risk Score.
(Wait sorry, misread that.)
@Cerberus BTW, I'm one step closer to experimenting with virtual instrument, through Pianoteq. Amazing what it can do nowadays compared to 20 years ago. Next step would be to build my own MIDI organ console and use Hauptwerk. Once I'm good enough, and if I'm still healthy 10-15 years later, maybe I receive invitation to play at the organs in Netherlands. Nothing beats the real thing.
TTYL.
21:26
@Robusto No, I actually completed that game before you posted yours. Spoiler
21:41
@GratefulDisciple I know little about music, is it like those electronic piano keyboards?
A digital piano is a type of electronic keyboard instrument designed to serve primarily as an alternative to the traditional acoustic piano, both in how it feels to play and in the sound it produces. Digital pianos use either synthesized emulation or recorded samples of an acoustic piano, which are played through one or more internal loudspeakers. They also incorporate weighted keys, which recreate the feel of an acoustic piano. Some digital pianos are designed to also look like an upright or grand piano. Others may be very simple, without a stand. While digital pianos may sometimes fall short...
I mean this.
@jlliagre I did see that, but since I couldn't read that backwards readily, and didn't want to go to the trouble of opening an app to flop the image horizontally, and was pressed for time, so instead of waiting till I got back from some skin surgery I just guessed.
22:16
@Conrado "I don't see why alcohol use is as bad as obesity" with alcoholism much less common than obesity these days yeah it's hard to see what the problem with alcohol is comparatively. But historically, alcohol (not even alcoholism) used to be a big social problem (in addition to car wrecks). Nobody beat their wife or ran into a tree because they ate too much.
@alphabet soda is what'll kill ya.
@Cerberus My keyboard is on that page, except mine is black.
@Cerberus I vaguely remember being against it but I'm so used to it now it feels OK. But needing 5 to reopen is excessive and hardly ever reached without proselytizing. And I have a hard time justifying 5 to close and 3 to reopen.
I'm leaning towards a solution being behavior modification.
ie shocks through the keyboard.
when I don't like when somebody doing something.
bzzt
ow!
that wasn't supposed to happen.
22:32
@Mitch Why do you have a hard time?
Closure has a huge advantage, because questions come in in a state where they can only be closed, not reopened.
And people mainly see new questions, not old ones.
23:03
@Mitch no kidding, have you read what they did during those protests?
One could argue mullahs had way more soft power back then than they have hard power now.
@Mitch countries with PMs sometimes seem even more chaotic than countries without.
@M.A.R. What was this about?
@Mitch I like it. Like a reverse Skinner's box
@Mitch "Prime minister": do you mean the president of Korea?
@Cerberus then-king of Iran (I forget, Naser-addin Shah?) sells tobacco trade rights to an Englishman, which would have essentially been axing local businesses and farmers. Mullahs gathered around and the big Mullah issued a Fatwa that consuming tobacco products is "waging war on God". It was an immensely successful Fatwa, and the king had to rescind the contract
Some 150 years ago, it should be
@Cerberus Yes, the keyboard needs to generate the MIDI signal, even though the one I'm using (Yamaha P250) and @Robusto 's Roland FP-90X have both very nice built-in sound and also built-in speakers.
23:15
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Q: Is biological stress related to covid lockdown policies a better explanation of excess pandemic deaths than covid infection?

matt_blackThe following claim was made on the newsletter of Children's Health Defence (the organisation founded by RFK Jr partly to promote his anti-vaccine agenda): Most excess deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic can be linked to biological stress brought on by coordinated and large-scale mandates and me...

Gonna have four years of this. I'm not head over heels about the prospect.
To use a virtual instrument such as Pianoteq, we need to hook that keyboard to a computer using USB cable since both keyboards have a built-in MIDI to USB converter (or using MIDI cables if the computer has a MIDI interface of its own). Pianoteq then takes the MIDI signals and generate the sound that we can either listen from audio out of the computer, or route it back to the keyboard's speaker through its audio-in.
@M.A.R. Religions sometimes accidentally do something right.
But then the Persian shops were not supposed to sell tobacco either?
@Cerberus it was a total ban on using tobacco until the Englishman would give in.
In exchange he probably loaned Naser addin something stupid like money for a visit to Europe.
Those kings were that bad.
@M.A.R. And after that, the mullahs pronounced that, oh, wait, God allows tobacco after all?
@Cerberus For organ, a typical MIDI hardware would look like this but the principle is the same, except there are multiple MIDI channels involved, one for each keyboard / pedalboard, and probably another one for the pistons.
23:22
@Cerberus yeah I guess? They specified in the Fatwa that it was haram until the decision to hand over the tobacco trade was reversed
@Mitch I wouldn't want my keyboard to bzzt me when I play the wrong note :-) even though now AI has the ability to do so.
@M.A.R. Do they didn't say tobacco was bad, just that God felt that the government had made a bad mercantile decision.
@Cerberus God was really hands-on with the problems of the proletariat back then
@Cerberus first principle of fairness, things should be equal (I mean you need special argumentation to justify unequal)
@M.A.R. actually I was referring to the escalation from withdrawal to self-fornication.
@Cerberus I don't mean anything since I don't know much to mean. see "My understanding (which is probably a gross overstatement of my abilities here)"
@M.A.R. I know! Skinner never put himself in his box.

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