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> The mild increase in unconjugated bilirubin due to Gilbert syndrome is closely related to the reduction in the prevalence of chronic diseases, especially cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes, related risk factors, and all-cause mortality
So a mild jaundice may be good.
@CowperKettle That sounds awful.
01:46
I wonder if there's a way to control an android phone without actually touching the screen. Maybe with some finger ring that would imitate a cursos when one keep a button pressed on the ring and moves the ring in space.
I'm working in delivery and would like to control my phone without taking the gloves off
It's getting colder every week.
@CowperKettle They make gloves that are "touchscreen-compatible." Also mittens where you can flip the top off of them to expose your fingers.
This.
02:05
@alphabet I found an even better thing: a pair of cut-finger gloves by 3M that transform into mittens by an attached flap.
Sounds good.
@CowperKettle That's so you can shoot a rifle when you get drafted for the Special Military Operation this winter.
02:27
@CowperKettle Yes, that's the kind of mitten I was talking about. I have a pair; they're quite useful.
 
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04:18
Resumptive pronoun (well, determinative) of the day:
> I wanted to gain experience within the surgical division as well as the Planned Care Division so I could get an overview, which I think that's what helped me get my Head of Nursing post eventually.
Weird. Not sure how to classify this one, I guess, since there'd've been nothing wrong with putting a gap in there.
Granted, this was from a medium-quality transcript of someone speaking, so presumably just a mouth typo or a typo typo.
 
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My husband suggested I watch Nine Feet Under, 20 years ago, so I am now and it's nice seeing all the paper and printed things, photos, etc. It's like developing a roll of film you misplaced for years and years, except of all disturbed people instead of sweet babies in cribs and such.
Six Feet Under
Why would it ever be nine?
 
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09:46
@HippoSawrUs A rare case where French has retained a unit of measurement that predates the metric system: Six pieds sous terre.
10:14
@jlliagre Do the French metrically rewrite preëxisting literature's measurements into SI units that the children might read them?
10:27
> Some publishers choose to release annotated editions where outdated measurements are converted directly into SI units within the text itself. This approach allows readers to engage with the material more easily while still appreciating its historical significance.
Of course, it's probably just hallucinating.
@Robusto I'm afraid that I indeed could be drafted, if Putin becomes too desperate to just round up everyone into it.
@CowperKettle I thought you said that your medical situation would surely preclude that, if not your age?
10:39
@tchrist I'm not aware it has ever be done. Books still read bottes de sept lieues or haut comme trois pouces (although in that case it's more the thing than the unit). Bottes de 30 kilomètres would sound ridiculous.
@jlliagre Oh good, that's reassuring. I agree completely on the ridiculousness of the notion. The fabled boots of 33.8 kilometers is truly hilarious.
Something le Chat botté would wear in his most dashing rendition.
@tchrist Yes, but I'm afraid that laws could be "fixed" if necessary.
@CowperKettle As, alas, can they all.
Le Maître chat ou le Chat botté (en italien : Il gatto maestro o il gatto con gli stivali ; en allemand : Der Meisterkater oder der Kater in Stiefeln, ou Der gestiefelte Kater ; en anglais : The Master Cat, or the Booted Cat ou Puss in Boots ; en espagnol : Maese Gato o el gato con botas) est un conte franco-italien en prose racontant l'histoire d'un chat qui utilise la ruse et la tricherie pour offrir le pouvoir, la fortune et la main d'une princesse à son maître mal-né et sans-le-sou. L'auteur italien Giovanni Francesco Straparola semble avoir transcrit la plus ancienne version connue de cette...
L'histoire d'un chat qui utilise la ruse sounds like a cat taking advantage of some Russian housewife. :)
> L'aîné hérite du moulin, le cadet de l'âne, et le benjamin du chat.
I love how French has names by birth rank. We don't have that in English, not really. Spanish uses benjamín in the same way, but I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to pawn that off on monoglot anglophones.
The eldest, the youngest, the baby of the family, etc.
> Por alusión a Benjamín, hijo último y predilecto de Jacob.
In Mexico there's also the term xocoyote/socoyote for that, from Nahuatl.
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12:16
@tchrist It's all about the benjamins.
You knew I was going to say that.
Wait...how do you -know- it's your last child?
I know lots of kids who are...how shall we say...late afterthoughts.
12:31
@Mitch The benjamin is always the youngest child. The current one might lose that title should a new benjamin pops out. Aîné and cadet are also used comparatively so a child can be both an aîné and a cadet.
12:42
@CowperKettle Yikes!
@tchrist Japanese has that as well, for boys. Ichiro means "first son"; Jiro is "next (or second) boy" and so on. They like numbers. In WWII, Admiral Yamamoto's given name was Isoroku, which means "56"!
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@Robusto How could he have been the 56th son?!
13:05
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Hey, Yugoslavia used to be simpler!
13:33
@tchrist I'm pretty sure he couldn't have been. Japanese just like numbers for some reason, or did so.
The word yakuza, for example, comes from a losing hand in the card game hanafuda, and translates to 893.
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Q: Why the mixture of *on* and *kun* readings of numbers?

RobustoOne thing that always puzzled me was why some terms and names that are based on numbers will mix the on and kun readings. I never really understood the rules for that, but it occurs to me that there must be some. For example, the word yakuza is derived from 8-9-3, a no-score hand in the 花札 (hana...

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> "Isoroku" is a Japanese term meaning "56"; the name referred to his father's age at Isoroku's birth. In 1916, Isoroku was adopted into the Yamamoto family (another family of former Nagaoka samurai) and took the Yamamoto name.
Nice.
13:50
#WhenTaken #238 (22.10.2024)

I scored 876/1000 🎉

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3️⃣ 📍 85.9 metres - 🗓️ 28 yrs - ⚡ 123 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 630 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 178 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 216 km - 🗓️ 5 yrs - ⚡ 187 / 200

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#WhenTaken #238 (22.10.2024)

I scored 968/1000 🎉

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2️⃣ 📍 16.6 metres - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
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Yay! 70 centimeters ;-)
@CowperKettle naming the son after the father's age is weird only in the way that Japan can be weird.
@Mitch Insurance policy?
May 8, 2013 at 21:41, by Robusto
Animé proves that the Japanese are not only stranger than we imagine, but stranger than we can imagine.
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@Robusto an important subgroup of people who look for this sort of nonsense are hardcore masochists. "If it hurts it means it's curing me."
@M.A.R. The tenet of allopathic medicine, I believe.
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I sure hope not
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@M.A.R. "People are strange when you're a stranger", wrote Shakespeare.
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My Score: 1730
Bollocks.
@jlliagre You made it to the end, at least.
14:20
"All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door."
@MetaEd Depends on the door. The ones they have in hospitals, which accommodate wheelchairs and gurneys, probably could.
@MetaEd says 'author unknown'. Did they try skiing through a revolving door?
> "Bartoli et al. examine the temporal dynamics of the default mode network and show that its activity helps generate original connections between concepts." academic.oup.com/brain/article/147/10/3409/7695856
The reader is great, but fails to pronounce forecastle as /ˈfəʊksl/
He pronounces it instead in a way a normal person would.
14:37
@Robusto absolutely not. At best you could perhaps navigate through it with your skis still on. You could never simply ski through it.
@CowperKettle FORECAST-uhl? :)
@MetaEd Yes
There's a great film based on this book, I really enjoyed it.
@CowperKettle it was a joke. As a land-lubber I would pronounce it FORE-kassuhl
there is no T in castle, except in Britain where of course there is T at 4pm
Ah, yes. I'm tired after a shift of work.
Although today it was only 44 km and not 54 as yesterday.
A Kyrgyz guy talked me into registering with a different delivery service, so that he would pick a bonus of RUB 20 000 if I finish 100 orders.
Thus far I've finished 38.
Delivery services suffer from understaffing, and are desperate for new hands.
Hence the "invite a friend" schemes.
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@MetaEd CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
I'll just need some one to start the door spinning so that if I time it right I'll zip right through.
I'll give moment by moment updates.
> During stimulation, assumed to inhibit the DMN, patients produced less original ideas during the alternative uses task, whereas mind-wandering was unaffected. academic.oup.com/brain/article/147/10/3263/7757981
@CowperKettle it's far from clear to me that anybody self-identifying as "kyrgyz" can talk at all. It's like what they say about gaelic being impossible to speak unless you eat salt fish. Or salt fish being impossible to eat unless you speak gaelic.
So, a well-functioning default mode network is needed to fish for original activity.
@Mitch if you go fast enough, you can take advantage of the fitzgerald contraction
Kyrgyz is a Turkic language of the Kipchak branch spoken in Central Asia. Kyrgyz is the official language of Kyrgyzstan and a significant minority language in the Kizilsu Kyrgyz Autonomous Prefecture in Xinjiang, China and in the Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Region of Tajikistan. There is a very high level of mutual intelligibility between Kyrgyz, Kazakh, and Altay. A dialect of Kyrgyz known as Pamiri Kyrgyz is spoken in north-eastern Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. Kyrgyz is also spoken by many ethnic Kyrgyz through the former Soviet Union, Afghanistan, Turkey, parts of northern Pakistan, and...
There is a very high level of mutual intelligibility between Kyrgyz, Kazakh, and Altay.
14:58
@M.A.R. I think they forgot how it was not to be able to sleep through the night.
@MetaEd What I'll be taking advantage of is misdirection, distorted point of view, and outright lying.
So a little more than 20 million people can understand Kyrgyz. Nice.
@MetaEd If you set it up properly, someone could probably do it. Too bad Mythbusters isn't around anymore.
@Mitch Good man. Always thinking of your fans.
Both of them.
My mom and a reply bot I made.
snorkle
The problem with skiing through a revolving door is that a revolving door is always sealed at every position in its rotation. At any moment that you try to ski through, there is at least one door in the way.
> The text in the image reads:

"ŞİT BANA TIRMIK DERLER ADAMIN KAFASINA DÖVME YAPARIM"

This is in Turkish, and roughly translates to:

"They call me 'rake'; I'll tattoo the guy's head."

It seems like the context is aggressive or playful banter, possibly from a video game chat.
15:07
@MetaEd What if you go very slowly through a very big revolving door.
Adjective: six pieds sous terre (invariable)
  1. six feet under
@Cerberus Yes, sure. Given a large enough revolving door, you could navigate it without taking off your skis. You would have to stop skiing, slowly tramp behind the door in front of you until the opening was clear, and then push off again. It makes no sense to call that "skiing through".
@Vikas I'm pretty sure that's just a misspelling of "hoverkraftımın içi yılan balığı dolu".
@MetaEd You could ski very slowly if it were a very big door revolving very quickly.
@Cerberus No true revolving door is big enough to do that. And no true Scotsman would ski through it.
Why not?
You could make it 100 m wide.
15:16
A no true Scotsman fallacy, or appeal to purity, is a fallacy which occurs when a universal (“all”, “every”, "any" etc.) claim is refuted or is given counter-evidence to and the claim is altered by going from universal to specific, and failing to give any objective criteria for the specificity rather than conceding the point or meaningfully revising the claim; it is a form of moving the goalposts. The name comes from an example made up by Anthony Flew. "No true Scotsman puts brown sugar on his porridge. The fact that Angus MacGregor puts brown sugar on his porridge just proves that he's no true...
Perhaps some communist palace has a huge revolving door.
And with movement sensors you could time it so that it revolves exactly to match the incoming skier.
@Cerberus When you have actually built it, or found the communist palace containing it, I will then concede the point.
Why would it need to actually be built?
The statement did not stipulate "already existing door".
The statement was that all things are possible except skiing through a revolving door. It is a statement about how things are now, not how they could have been.
"If you build it, they will slalom."
The possible could be in the future.
The best I can do.
The one time in life when you need AI, it cannot really do what it should.
15:24
The possible is right now.
Can it go fast enough and is it connected to motion sensors?
you can enter with skis as the door is turning and by the (admittedly short) time you reach the other side, the door has turned enough so there is an opening and you can exit.
Also, it is in a communist palace.
It's not big enough. You could get through with skis but you would have to stop, turn and sidestep, and basically continue sidestepping until the other side opened.
You just need to ski very slowly and the door needs to turn fast.
@MetaEd Nuh uh.
15:27
The floor needs to be sloped.
@Cerberus I'll be adding ice or something slippery.
Good.
What do you think the radius of this door is?
A bit on the small side.
much larger than the length of the skis
15:28
You could have a bigger door made.
@Cerberus No hypotheticals. It's this door or nothing.
Go to any hospital (as @Robusto suggested). They have -huge- tripartite rotating doors, enough room for a skier to enter while the door is turning and then leave as it turns a little further.
@MetaEd I don't want that door!
The adage clearly refers to this door. Not that door.
@MetaEd We get to make the door.
And have it be acceptable to you.
as a revolving door.
15:38
The adage is certainly disprovable by making a big enough door. Until such time as that's done, the adage is true.
@MetaEd I thank you in advance for conceding.
OK what's our next challenge?
I thank him too.
So very courteous.
@Mitch I think this is proof.
Also the perspective at the top is perfect.
OK how about walking on the moon?
That surely seems impossible.
that looks like one of those skydiving chambers. always skiing, never leaving
@MetaEd You sound like a non-believer.
15:43
Or a big snow globe.
You can certainly walk on the moon by making heavy enough boots.
OK well that was easy
To do a moonwalk in moonboots?
And what if you went barefoot but with an oxygen mask?
Regular boots should be fine.
15:44
Or without, for as long as you could?
@Cerberus Oh... come to think of it, that's not such a great idea.
The lunar surface is covered with very fine dust which is actually sharp edged, very abrasive. You'd probably get some sort of weird rash from the irritation.
@Mitch you would be walking on dust then, not on the lunar surface itself. Hence you'd need a snowblower.
Also you'd need air for the snowblower.
@MetaEd Absurd.
However, on second thought: if you had no idea how strong the gravity is on the moon, you might think that it was extremely weak. In that case, a pen might be seen to float away while extremely slowly moving down towards the surface; in that case, extremely heavy boots might render the men able to walk on the ground.
15:49
@MetaEd And I suppose also a little snow?
@MetaEd I see that this issue has preöccupied you for over a decade.
@MetaEd I read that and now I'm concerned that I'm wearing sandals.
@Cerberus If you would suggest that he get a hobby, he might counter that that is indeed his hobby.
Keeps him from spending too much time at the race tracks.
@Mitch So it would appear.
@MetaEd When a balrog lets go, it will:
A. Float away.
B. Fly away.
C. Fall into the chasm.
D. Float in place helplessly, flailing with its wings or 'wings' and flail.
@Mitch I see this:
@Cerberus I see that this issue has preoccupied you for over a decade.
16:04
@MetaEd You more than me, I should think.
@Cerberus I keep the Heavy Boots alive in remembrance of a dead friend.
Oh, I see.
Was it he who wrote the text on that page?
Balrogs, now, that's my personal cross to bear.
@Cerberus No.
I don't think they are Christian.
@Cerberus Now that's a great question.
16:06
Perhaps anti-Christian.
Antichristian?
Yeah, that's more like it.
@Vikas That's not the best thing in the world to see, but also not the worst.
@Cerberus Maybe has no idea Christianity even exists?
Now all I'm thinking of are boots.
@Mitch Tolkien's lore is Christian allegory. As is the lore of his close friend Lewis.
@Mitch Although Tolkien's world has Christian overtones.
Gandalf is the son of God who was sent to reclaim middle-Earth, murdered, fallen to the underworld, and reincarnated.
16:17
@MetaEd I thought the subject was balrogs, not Tolkien.
@MetaEd Were they actually close friends??
I really hated that in Narnia.
@Cerberus Very.
-in- the world, balrogs have no clue that Christianity is a thing.
Less so in Tolkien, but I still hated it quite a bit.
Balrogs are fallen angels.
16:17
@MetaEd OK interesting.
@MetaEd Yes, all that is very clear.
Morgoth and Illuvatar and everything.
@Cerberus To be honest, I read them many times as a kid and never had a clue. It took someone to say it outloud for me to get it. And now that I see it... it's kinda stupid.
And the horrible defence of making people suffer and die from their bodies deteriorating, called it "the gift of men".
@MetaEd And Orcs are Saxons.
"Aslan" is Turkish for "Man" as in "The Son Of Man", and is sacrificed for the salvation of Narnia
@MetaEd ??? I thought it was Turkish for 'lion'
16:20
@MetaEd Yeah I already hated that stuff when I read it as a child, before having been exposed to Christianity.
16:46
@Mitch I keep getting that wrong. I think I was told wrong when I learned a Turkish folk song decades ago
16:56
@Mitch No, the Rohirrim.
17:27
"Bitter he'll find here the bite of our spear-points
Hard ruling Northmen too strong to die old
We'll grant him six feet plus as much as he's taller
Of land that the sons of the Saxons will hold"
 
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18:28
> O the hoot! O the hoot!
Of his jolly little flute!
O the hoot of Tinfang Warble!
There! He’s dancing all alone
In the twilight of the lawn
’Cause the little stars have grown:
O the dear old mad leprechaun
And his name is Tinfang Warble.
> Dance in the dingles and lilt in the dells
Or propped under feather-green-larches behold
The leafy thrones ready for coming bluebells
Mid the crozier fern fronds in warm matted mould
Let the lutanist weave us a music of smells.
18:45
"Fairies in the garden and the meadow and the dell
Spirits in the attic and the cellar and the well
Toss in a penny and make a wish
Toss another dollar in the offering dish"
18:58
@tchrist Oh. Wow. I have to rearrange my entire analogical mapping function then.
Who -are- the orcs then if not the Saxons?
Like does that make... the elves... the Americans?
@Mitch Brutes wherever they may be found.
Make Merica grunt again.
They are among us
@think_meaning_builds Mercia.
19:01
Mercurial
Tolkien considered himself a Mercian. Look it up.
> Mercia was centered on the valley of the River Trent and its tributaries. Settled by Angles, their name is the root of the name 'England'. Their neighbors included other Angles, Saxons and Jutes all from Germany. Mercia bordered on Northumbria, Wessex, Sussex, Essex and East Anglia.
Bipolar disorder is 4 times more likely in straight A students
@think_meaning_builds Did not apply to Billy Joel.
19:04
> The old translation for Mercia (an Anglo-Saxon medieval kingdom) was “The Mark.”
> Despite this, many academics link Rohan to one of the most powerful kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon England - Mercia, which was based in the Midlands where Tolkien spent much of his youth. Some also say the riders' names are rooted in the Mercian dialect.

"Tolkien identified at quite an emotional level with Mercia, and West Mercia in particular, and the language, and he put a lot of that into Rohan," says Mr Lyons.
@Mitch Billy, don't you lose my number.
@think_meaning_builds nah I was thinking of this:
> Should I try to be a straight 'A' student?
If you are then you think too much
Yes. Re: my (new) username.
@think_meaning_builds With very little reflection, Billy Joel's lyrics are cool but do not promote a successful lifestyle.
@Mitch No Billy Joel references in chat, please.
19:11
Thinking too much leads to paralysis from analysis.
OK, I know you didn't start the fire, but please ...
This is fine.
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@tchrist Are sex names from Sax?
@Cerberus The Anglo-Saxon short sword was called a seaxe, so what does that sound like to you?
@Cerberus No, male and female are from Latin come.
19:16
@Robusto Not what you would name a country after?
@tchrist Is that what they were?
I don't understand the question. But I worry it may hearken back to Sachsenhausen.
> The name Essex originates in the Anglo-Saxon period of the Early Middle Ages and has its root in the Anglo-Saxon (Old English) name Ēastseaxe ("East Saxons")
Indeed.
So both the swords and the countries were named after the word Saxon?
All *sex kingdoms are Saxon.
The Saxony part of the original names would be Seaxe as well, as in West Seaxe.
Just as I thought.
19:20
Not to be confused with Saks on 5th NYC.
But it varied.
@think_meaning_builds Saks.
Corrected, sir.
Leofric, the earl of Mercia was quite the little villain, if I remember. Also the husband of Godgifu (Lady Godiva).
The topless horse rider.
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Topless and bottomless. Also where the name "Peeping Tom" comes from.
Lady Godiva (; died between 1066 and 1086), in Old English Godgifu, was a late Anglo-Saxon noblewoman who is relatively well documented as the wife of Leofric, Earl of Mercia, and a patron of various churches and monasteries. Today, she is mainly remembered for a legend dating back to at least the 13th century, in which she rode naked – covered only by her long hair – through the streets of Coventry to gain a remission of the oppressive taxation that her husband, Leofric, imposed on his tenants. The name "Peeping Tom" for a voyeur originates from later versions of this legend, in which a man named...
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19:30
@Robusto you're not a fan!?
It's funny, but there's a very realistic sculpture in that Wiki entry apparently sculpted by someone named John Thomas. It's funny because John Thomas is a British euphemism for the male member.
@think_meaning_builds This is more Rob's style:
He's more of a big metal fan.
More of a heavy metal fan, perhaps?
Although not really.
Fanning the flames.
@Robusto i don't know...which works better for the pun? The meme uses 'big metal fan'
...or 'huge'.
19:34
@Mitch The rule of thumb here is ... if you have to explain a joke it's not funny.
@Robusto I'm not explaining, I'm workshopping. 'heavy metal works but it is almost too obvious?
no I think it works...I'm just used to seeing 'big metal fan'
Don't rule with the thumb, instead carry a big stick and walk softly
Carry yourself softly and talk about a big stick.
Big John Thomas walked softly.
@Mitch OK.
19:43
@Robusto thus the impact is completely contained in the self-realization.
> In 2021, Saks Fifth Avenue, Saks Off 5th and Hudson's Bay all split up their online and brick-and-mortar businesses as part of a broader push by parent company HBC to attract investment and talent to the digital companies.
Another causality of the pandemic year.
@think_meaning_builds Yes. This is also true of all art. When you have that sudden epiphany that, yes, you know exactly what is going on in the painting/song/symphony/sculpture/poem/dance, you suddenly become one with the art. Which is a very satisfying and elating feeling.
The three most satisfying words in English are "I get it!" Greek whittles that down to one: Eureka!
So it's also true of science as well.
20:00
And getting there is half the fun, as they say.
@think_meaning_builds The journey is the reward.
All journeys have an end, so even the end is part of the journey and hence part of the reward.
Leave it to Archimedes to whittle things down.
@Robusto Doesn't know what she wants.
Ambiguity, at its finest.
@Robusto put that on a door and see what happens.
@think_meaning_builds Art directors do these things not out of a desire to be clever, but simply to get a job done. As is very well known, art people can't really read. To them, text is a design element, nothing more.
See what I mean?
I could go on.
20:13
@Robusto what about journeys that end in failure?
@think_meaning_builds What's the address of failure?
@think_meaning_builds At least you have the rest of the journey.
@MetaEd Q U I T
@MetaEd Same address as seg_fault?
Look in the core dump, you'll find it.
Sure, we can and should learn from our mistakes, but they still are mistakes.
20:17
All journeys end in death, eventually. So what if your life is a failure? I think it depends on how you define failure.
Quitting is half the fun.
@Robusto FATAL ERROR - NO SMALL BUFFERS LEFT
@MetaEd And for all-you-can-eat restaurants: "FATAL ERROR - NO SMALL BUFFETS LEFT"
@think_meaning_builds Mistakes are the stepping stones to wisdom.
Philosophy is a walk on slippery stones.
> Religion is a light in the fog. I'm not aware of too many things. I know what I know, if you know what I mean.
An epistemological tautology.
20:38
@Robusto that's okay, I'm more of a JAMMY BUFFET fan anyway
@think_meaning_builds A fitting simile.
@think_meaning_builds Is it an attack?
@Cerberus The fourth one this month.
21:43
Is that new?
Not good.
21:55
The library of Alexandria is burning and nobody cares.
At least this one is fire-proof and reconstructible.
Perhaps StackOverflow can help rebuild a more secure one.
They have been using volunteer help for so long and now would be a good time to help another volunteer organization, imo.
22:22
well fuck
I'm now redundant
22:32
Oh, no.
I think you mentioned something about this.
Was the timing unexpected?
22:59
@Criggie Can you still remember how to say that in a way that immobile Americans would understand it? :)
They've eliminated your position. Do you get to try for another?
And no, that wasn't meant to be a translation for Americans.
American would (probably) say they've been laid off.
But each really big company has its own lingo for this awful thing.
23:13
@Criggie I'm sorry to hear that. I guess it's that time of the year (before Thanksgiving). Just this morning my company also laid off a few people.
@tchrist I've heard the expression "I have been made redundant" used, especially after a merger, or after a major technology transformation.
23:26
Nah they're closing the New Zealand arm of the company.
"in consultation to close the NZ office"
which means its a done plan and they're going through the motions of pretending to care.
@tchrist Yes the middle C in m.47 and B3 in m.48 is tricky. For sure, the RH is already busy with an important voice, and the bass voice is equally important. The C can be late a little, but not the B. I might attempt to stretch my LH fingers to play G#+B together (if I'm lucky). Also the C+E in m. 95 using 1-1-3 for the 16th notes.
@Criggie That really sucks.
Do you think it will be easy for you to find another job?
I think you said you were not that happy with it?
"the fix for fugue mm. 35-37 is to use only the thumb for the middle voice, not 1,2 games" Yes, that's what I plan to do too. Especially because I don't want to play strict legato, basically playing the piano as a percussive instrument throughout (which in fact it is!) with minutely varying lengths for each note, just like how I play it on the organ.
@GratefulDisciple I've certainly heard it here.
I should get ~9 months pay as a redundancy, which puts a nice dent in the mortgage.
Downside, 200 IT smart people now looking for jobs in my area.
23:42
@Criggie Wow, that's quite generous (by American standard). Is working remote for an employer in another country (like Australia) a possibility?
@Robusto the thing that bothers me the most about this is "don't" is blue and "do" is red.
@GratefulDisciple Praesumably he lives in New Zealand, with decent labour laws.
@Cerberus How about in Europe; is there something mandated by EU government or all labor laws local to each country?
@Robusto I really wanna try eating at Chuburckrger.
23:45
Canada (I believe) is not that much different than the USA, but 1 week notification is a must, so at least 1 week "severance" pay.
@GratefulDisciple Maybe there is a minimum mandated by the E. U. But each country has its own laws. They will have have labour protection of some sort, though.
@M.A.R. Now that you mention it, I agree with you.
yeah american companies are "you get paid up till your last hour then begone !"
Fortunately we're a common-law country and companies have to comply with local laws.
I should get 4 weeks plus one week per year of service, so +9 weeks.
They're paying 9 months.
I'm not doing a lot of work today though
You couldn't see this coming?
@Criggie what, not enough self-proclaimed philosphers idolizing murderers and the selfish way of living?
23:50
@think_meaning_builds Yeah - its been building for years; management taking the company through life like a 7 year old on coffee.
That's a lot of built up energy gone wasted.
@think_meaning_builds whoa dude. What do you think this is, a soup kitchen? SO, like any other company, will not lift a finger unless there's a combination of PR gains and expectations from a large enough number of users.
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However much it would cost them to "help out"
🙈🙉🙊
@GratefulDisciple For mass layoffs here, you do need to provide 60 days notice under the WARN Act, albeit with a number of exceptions. But you don't get severance pay in most states.

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