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@Criggie LOL
> “Let’s recall that before the large-scale invasion began, and the immediate aftermath, the question sounded slightly different: How long can Ukraine hold against Russia?” he said. “The answer was no more than a week or so. Today, we’re talking about how long Ukraine can hold in the Kursk region. In terms of the war effort, I think it’s a positive change.”
@jlliagre I'm not really surprised! Most people would not know this.
@jlliagre Interesting. That settles it.
@alphabet Yes, I should have replied to your remark.
yesterday, by alphabet
@jlliagre I actually wouldn't be surprised if this new usage was substantially more common among native speakers.
00:34
@CowperKettle If you think the Vatican is bad, look at Adobe.
@Cerberus An interesting poll I didn't do but I'm sure about the result would be asking what is the way to write 70, 80 and 90 in full. Most French (of France) would of course say the French literal equivalent of sixty-ten, four-twenty and four-twenty-ten are correct, but I bet most would likely add that it's the logical and unquestionable way because even kids know it. They would only consider septante, huitante and nonante as jocular alternatives.
> it's the logical and way
Somehow, I doubt this!
Unquestionable, yes.
Children know it, yes.
Will do.
00:52
@CowperKettle You have to go through the Church of Adobe for that one.
@jlliagre The closest equivalent to quatre-vingt in English would be four score (archaic though it is).
@Robusto Yes, famous for being in the Gettysburg Address.
@jlliagre That is probably the only place people ever hear of it.
@Robusto But a prominent place.
True.
01:48
@jlliagre In that order.
@jlliagre Another interesting poll would be to ask people what the plural of "luggage" is.
@alphabet As you wish. I will report in that order all these predictions as inappropriate because I do not plan to convert to anything of these.
To anything at all, even.
@alphabet That one, we were taught at school so less than 100% will be mistaken. Of course, un bagage and deux bagages are legit in French.
@Robusto If you convert to the Church of Adobe, make sure they have long-term support for the product you use and that your ecosystem supports it too. Remember Flash! How you have bought their Bible, taken their "catechism" courses, spent much time to adjust your life to their "services", etc. 😊
In contrast, if you convert to Christianity, it has a proven long term support, even though the "software" is forked into many versions. At least the version is backwards compatible !
02:04
@GratefulDisciple Nothing worse than converting to one of those religions that gets sunset after a couple decades. Like Heaven's Gate.
I left around the time they nicknamed me "Alphony."
I am not a raccoon. My vehicle is a raccoon.
@alphabet Yup. That's the worst. Maybe like the Essenes, except they are not suicidal?
Anyway I tried to switch to Scientology but my paws couldn't fit around those E-meter electrodes.
@alphabet TBH, I didn't get the joke.
@alphabet But I did get this one :-)
@GratefulDisciple Heaven's Gate had this thing where they changed everyone's names to random letters followed by the suffix "-ony."
@alphabet oooh. BTW I skimmed through the Wikipedia article. How on earth can one be duped by their wackiness, I have no idea.
02:13
And they insisted on referring to someone's body as their "vehicle," e.g. "His vehicle is tall" instead of "He is tall."
This is why they didn't see their actions as a mass suicide: they were only killing their vehicles. To exchange them for new ones. On a comet.
@alphabet Ugh. Compared to that, aberrant charismatic Toronto Blessing manifestations (uncontrollable laughter, making animal noises, etc.) is nothing.
@GratefulDisciple Insular suicide cults are a lot older than you'd think.
Aug 7 at 2:36, by alphabet
Raccoon Standard Bible, Genesis 3: [7] And Adam dropped the core of the apple, creating the first trash. [8] And the raccoons stole it, and ate it, and became even wiser than the humans. [9] And God commended them and told them to keep up the good work.
@alphabet Haven't heard about that one. Compared to that, the 2 Bar Kokba revolts make a lot more sense.
@alphabet So you're better than us humans, eh? Reminds me of the original movie Planet of the Apes. We humans need to prove ourselves to the enlightened raccoons.
@GratefulDisciple Humans elected Trump. We, by contrast, have luxurious coats of fur.
@alphabet Cannot beat that, for sure.
(BTW, pardon me if I'm not responding for a while; in the middle of work)
02:27
TIL ,la
02:38
Anyway, my opinion is that humans didn't exist until an evil raccoon scientist named Yakub selectively bred them into existence on a Greek island 6000 years ago.
@jlliagre nonante sounds funny, huitante is just ridiculous
I was really hoping the 'secret speaker' at the DNC was gonna be Taylor Swift.
You know, to bring out the young white female vote.
I mean I would have preferred to see Beyoncé, but her appearance wouldn't change things for potential voters.
 
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05:46
Too much smoking.
 
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09:19
@Mitch Ha ha. How French you are, Mitch! ;-)
10:58
@jlliagre it's like you're putting two sounds together and just hoping. That's not how words work.
Well, actually...
But anyway you don't put orange and purple together and expect orple to be a thong.
@Mitch Yes, they are still a pair of thongs, Basil.
But...
It would be a better world if we got used to it.
Like if China just adopted pinyin.
There'd be a couple years of hand wringing over the lost past culture. But then everybody would get used to it and numeracy and literacy, respectively, would improve
11:29
@Mitch Yes. Did you get why I called you Basil?
@jlliagre no. As a large language model, I am not currently attached to the Internet or updated with the latest cultural trends, even those from the last ??? years.
Is that a Fawlty Towers reference?
Something about 'don't mention the war'?
2 hours ago, by jlliagre
@Mitch Ha ha. How French you are, Mitch! ;-)
@jlliagre nope... I don't get the reference.
I need a YouTube clip.
Dorian Gray.
I...
I need...
I still don't get it.
You've been awake for hours and I'm still rubbing my eyes.
I'm trying to figure out this thing in between landings as an air traffic controller.
Hold on...
Near miss!
Whew!
Thank heaven for pilots!
If it weren't for them all the planes would go wherever they want.
There's no Basil in Dorian Gray, is there?
Oh
Of course there is.
I don't remember anything French in that book though.
11:46
Right, that's the trick.
Cripes. There's just too much there to remember.
The Importance of Being Earnest has every other line something clever to remember. And the other lines are unforgettable
By tomorrow I'll have forgotten any of this has been discussed and we'll have to start all over again.
@Mitch How American you are, Mitch! ;-)
@jlliagre a subtly hidden change so that one can't keyword search.
Well played
Plausible deniability and all that...
"Look, your honor, my client didn't -say- anything disparaging about the French, though he well could have, and frankly he can barely witness for his own mental status, let alone that of a fictional character from more than a hundred years ago."
@jlliagre I am honored and humbled by the recognition of my Exceptionalism'.
12:27
@Mitch You betcha.
> The element that is unclean, though undeniably amusing, is furnished by Mr. Oscar Wilde’s story of The Picture of Dorian Gray. It is a tale spawned from the leprous literature of the French decadents—a poisonous book, the atmosphere of which is heavy with the mephitic odours of moral and spiritual putrefaction
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@jlliagre Is he talking about French cheese?
@Robusto That's what I smell.
@Mitch I'm not sure why people say they are "humbled" by some top honor they've received. Are they simply being ironic, or are they trying to tamp down their egos so that they don't go off on an orgy of hooting self-aggrandizement? "Yeah baby! I'm the king! A-number one! Woohoo!"
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13:02
@jlliagre I'll have to pick up on that later. I'm riding this morning.
@Robusto Yes, don't ride and WhenTaken.
I bet Tadej could do that.
@Robusto and sorting out all of these Slavic languages would give him an edge.
13:49
There's a hidden feature in Windows with which you can cast your phone to PC. I needed it to stream my phone's files on PC and it is working. I searched a lot here and there but Google search (and so called smart AI) never gave any results about it. Luckily I came to know about it via YouTube.
14:32
@jlliagre Jeez... say it that way and it does sound pretty skeezy.
They need to chill and have a latte and croissant.
@Robusto Yeah, it's an obnoxious trend for everone to say "I'm humbled" on receipt of some honor. It always sounds disingenuous because it's usually some famous person who has been repeatedly honored and so they really should be somewhat blasé at that point.
But yeah I think it's all about ego management, wanting others to think that you have imposter syndrome when really you're wondering what took them so long to recognize your genius.
@Robusto Agreed. It seems it has degenerated into a trope / courtesy that people expect them to say in such occasions. Maybe choosing another trope would have been more genuine. I also think it's a symptom of the lack of objective standard by which society has agreed to put the two (the honor and the receiver) in a spectrum of true achievement scale of merit, esp. if the honor in question is bestowed for political or other non-meritorious reason.
@jlliagre I don't think I've ever read Balzac.
On the other hand, I -have- read Astérix.
But not Tintin.
I should read more.
But there's so much TV to watch.
In contrast, Olympic / other number-based competition related honors have an objective inherent scale of merit.
@GratefulDisciple The first guy to say it was probably very genuine.
@Mitch Yeah, simce this is English.SE I was wondering the origin of that phrase.
14:45
And it was probably a woman
The second person to say it was definitely a guy who thought 'Ohh... that sounds good, I'll add that to my speech'
@GratefulDisciple The sign on the door says English.SE, but we sometimes talk about English anyway.
@Mitch Probably, though unfortunately in earlier times women were not recognized as they should have been. Should I ask a question on the phrase origin in the site?
The more languages you can wrap up in your puns the better.
@Mitch he he, seems to be the ethos and the delight of this room.
@GratefulDisciple It's all just showing off, both competitively and cooperatively.
@Mitch That sounds to be very realistic scenario, typical man too.
@Mitch Aaaah. you're being too humble.
14:52
@GratefulDisciple Do your usual google search and NGrams search first and see if there's still nuance after that. It's not clear to me that there's any set phrase around it so there might be several ways it comes out.
@Mitch Great, I'll do that. Seems that's this site's "initial research" for good question, anyway
@GratefulDisciple You flatter me with an excess of praise.
It's like a Jane Austen dialog of people trying to be hyper-polite and crush everyone else's ego at the same time.
Like a game of beach paddleball where you try to keep the ball going but also make it as hard as possible for your colleagueborator.
@GratefulDisciple Right. If you just ask like on reddit "What's up with awards people saying "I'm so humbled'?" some people will jump on that shit and close it for no research.
It's a weird line because if you're interested in it you;ll try to answer it yourself first and if you find the answer you're done and no one will get the benefits of that research.
@Mitch You are absolved. Just say two Our Fathers and three Hail Marys.
This reminded me of this:
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Q: "Hearts and prayers": eggcorn/malapropism?

MitchI've recently seen a phrasing that I don't think I've ever heard before. But that is often a sign more of consciousness rather than evidence. The phrase is: hearts and prayers. There are similar phrases used, usually as condolences or a response to some distant disaster where only words ca...

which I humbly present as a way to do it.
It's not really worthy of emulation, but people seemed to have responded.
@jlliagre I've heard of that from movies. Is that from a movie? I'm thinking Taxi Driver?
@Mitch This reminds me of a hot network question from Philosophy.SE The McDonald's Option; sometimes you have to be the sacrificial lamb so the whole group benefit.
15:01
OK I finished reading all my Twitter bookmarks and Youtube Watch Laters, and now I can't think of anything else to put off doing before I start doing things I have to do. Any suggestions?
@Mitch Yeah, that's the greatness of Austen (I think) that she managed to both do satire and show the truth of humans' various vanities without being preachy. About being hyper-polite, Mr. Collins comes to mind.
@Mitch Not that I'm aware of but similar sentences likely appeared in several movies.
@GratefulDisciple oh man, I've been caught in that, but I actually wanted to go to McDonald's and suggested so, and then that's when people start suggesting other things without even acknowledging me. ::sad-faced-emoji::
@jlliagre Blues Brothers?
@Mitch You're a brave man. I'm one of those who stay silent and waited for the group's consensus.
Which is an awesome movie if you've spent time in Chicago.
15:07
@Mitch not only.
@GratefulDisciple The nail sticking up gets pounded down.
@jlliagre Also Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Which, I don't know if it is appreciated as such, is a tale of a teenage psychopath.
@Mitch Yeah... the Western crucible in which heroes emerge. In contrast to some Eastern cultures where they want to play it safe.
@GratefulDisciple Aw man, I forget -all- the details. Mr. Collins was the vicar right? I can't remember which book... they all run together like the Marvel Universe movies.
Yes, yes I am comparing Jane Austen to Marvel Comics.
I've already done Balzac and Astérix.
Next is A Tale of Genji and Mishima.
@Mitch Yes, in Pride and Prejudice, the pompous vicar character who proposed (and rejected) by Elizabeth (the heroine) and almost every line he utters is blatant vanity that he doesn't realize. Sometimes I wonder where Austen got those models from; if it's from actual vicars in her time (maybe some from her own dad), that's a sorry state of the church.
@GratefulDisciple Individualism gives you a little space to be yourself, but frankly some people should shut the front door.
@GratefulDisciple People think Austen is vapid romance but it is mostly scathing satire of exactly that (but with a Hollywood ending).
15:14
Who pinged me? Come out and show yourself!
@Mitch Hehehe... the privacy of one's home (castle), one's royal domain where no government should intrude but yes, some things best kept in your castle.
Seriously, I have an inbox ping but the message was probably deleted. Can't find it.
I don't think I would have wanted to be in her social circle solely for the fear of reading one of her books and have it slowly dawn on me "Is that awful character based on -me-?".
Or worse, for her to say 'No. No, I never really thought of you for a character in my books.'
-That- would be humbling.
@Mitch In Christian circle, Austen is one of the "approved" authors (in contrast with vapid romance, "the bodice ripper") where objectivity of morals are being touted as positive. But about the happy endings, she must have been prescient of her novels turned into movies by Hollywood. Though I much prefer the BBC versions.
@GratefulDisciple haha I'm gonna use that "Hey. Hey dude. Keep it in your castle."
15:17
@alphabet is it any surprise that they're hypocrites? They're politicians for Chomsky's sake!
@Mitch "Don't pull down your drawbridge!"
@GratefulDisciple There was one adaptation, (no of course I can't remember which one) where the female lead gets pricked with a thorn and she bleeds a little. I thought that was the director -totally- missing the whole point of the whole thing.
I think the worse thing that happened in any of the books was when one young lady jumps down from a wall and falls and gets dizzy and stays in bed for a while.
Talking about heroes and "I'm humbled" in receiving award, I came across an article about how Demi Moore was sticking to Bruce Willis's side after he caught dementia not too long ago, which to me is "heroic" in a sense that she's willing to buck the norm. I like several of her movies (esp. Disclosure). I wonder whether she said "I'm humbled" when receiving Razzie awards TWO times! (she had time to practice before receiving the second one).
@M.A.R. That's getting a little saucy!
Wouldn't this be illegal? github.com/Shabinder/SpotiFlyer
Seems like some code to download music from paid apps.
Near the beginning of the README.md they say:
> users can install explicitly on their own responsibility (disclaimer).
15:23
> Downloading copyright songs may be illegal in your country. This tool is for educational purposes only and was created only to show how Music Platform's Apis like Spotify's API can be exploited to download music. Please support the artists by buying their music.
so to be legalistic, I don't think the code is itself illegal, but it hints that -using- it may not be an activity that the places like Spotify would like.
that is, those services mght try to block such software than try to sue anybody for using it.
@jlliagre Ah. I will start a research project for educational purpose on music soon then ;)
Look man I don't know any of this stuff, I just turn on the radio and I get what's coming out and if I don't like it I change the station.
@Mitch I cannot recall either. Maybe a good question for ChatGPT. If I find it, I'll let you know.
@Vikas Go one step further and create an app that lets you withdraw money from banks - for educational purposes only, of course.
15:32
So I asked: "Is there a Jane Austen movie adaptation where the female lead was pricked with a thorn and bled a little?" and the answer was:
> There isn't a well-known Jane Austen movie adaptation where the female lead is pricked by a thorn and bleeds. This type of scene is not a prominent element in Austen's original novels, and it doesn't appear in the major film adaptations of her works like Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Emma, Mansfield Park, Northanger Abbey, or Persuasion.
> However, if you're thinking of a particular scene or detail from a more obscure adaptation or a movie inspired by Austen's works, it might be helpful to know the specific adaptation or additional details. Some Austen adaptations take creative liberties, so it's possible that a minor or symbolic scene like this could exist in one of those.
Typical ChatGPT prose with its plausible deniability and "humble" (?) disclaimer, which in this case totally unhelpful. Hopefully by now I can detect ChatGPT style anywhere.
@Mitch That one is Persuasion.
@jlliagre Small steps better.
15:53
@Mitch This is an example of ChatGPT's "hallucination". I refined the question "How about when the female lead bleeds a little?", same kind of answer. Then I asked "How about non-lead female characters?", it gave me this, which is not correct (see the scene):
> There is a notable scene involving a non-lead female character bleeding in the 1995 film adaptation of Sense and Sensibility directed by Ang Lee. In this movie, Marianne Dashwood, played by Kate Winslet, cuts her hand while walking in the rain. She slips and falls, cutting her hand on a sharp rock or branch, and the injury is shown bleeding. This scene is significant because it leads to her first encounter with the character John Willoughby, who comes to her aid.
> This moment isn't from the original novel by Jane Austen but was added to the film for dramatic effect. It highlights Marianne's passionate and impulsive nature, which contrasts with her sister Elinor's more restrained character. This scene could be the one you’re thinking of, as it involves a bleeding injury, though not from a thorn.
If I were ChatGPT being asked about scenes of bleeding from non-lead female characters (although arguably, Marianne is a lead being the embodiment of "Sensibility"), I would have pointed out the scene from that adaptation where lots of blood was shown from the doctor's doing blood-letting to try to cure her from fever. (see the scene starting around 2:30).
16:53
"No one regards what is before his feet; we all gaze at the stars." ---Quintus Ennius
@GratefulDisciple as usual everything depends on the right search terms/prompt
So it was the very recent Emma with Anya Taylor-Jones, and she gets a nose bleed
But it was an unplanned thing that the director decided to leave in.
It was decidedly 'out of universe's. I think a poor artistic choice.
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Hi, folks!
Here's my [mis-used?] word of the day:
"...the enormous damage a digital fake can wrought..."
Should it have said 1) work, 2) wreak or 3) wreck?
According to etymonline, work comes through PG from the PIE root *werg-, and wreak (through the same route) from [*wreg-].
@Conrado Wreak. They used the wrong form of the right verb.
That's what I thought.
17:23
Actually, wrought isn't even the usual past tense of wreak. Most sources will tell you that only wreaked is correct.
It is a particularly bitter pill to swallow, since I visited this news outlet's website once, and ever since then they have sent me this sort of unsolicited "beginning of an article" with a read more button, which is behind a paywall costing hundreds of dollars per year.
To the folks at The Information: Do better.
Sometimes it is [mis]spelled wraught: "Wraught Iron Stair Railing Post for Loft Handrail"
wrought is past tense of work.
"wrought iron" is "worked iron".
@Conrado Couldn't it be brought?
Then the sentence would say "...the [...] damage a digital fake can brought..."
No, I don't think it can be brought.
@MetaEd Yes.
And this is the corresponding Q on ELU, I think:
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Q: The "wrought /wreaked havoc" misunderstanding

user66974According to the American Heritage Dictionary: the past tense and past participle of the verb to wreak is wreaked, not wrought, which is an alternative past tense and past participle of work. In the expression to wreak havoc , which means: to cause a lot of trouble or damag...

Sven Yarg's answer mentions a M-W (Coll. 2003) entry where wreak can also mean 3 : BRING ABOUT, CAUSE {wreak havoc}.
17:39
distraught
@Conrado Yes, that was my question. Why can't it be brought? I'm non native so I might miss an obvious grammatical or idiomaticity issue.
@tchrist past tense distraughted
if Beethoven is decomposing, Goethe is distraughting
@jlliagre It's the wrong conjugation (if that is the right word in English). It would have to be bring: "The damage a digital fake can bring..."
Or simply cause.
This is as bad as confusing forraught with forwrought.
@Conrado Yes. Can is always followed by the bare infinitive form of a verb.
17:55
@alphabet Correct, as in "i can haz cheezburger".
@MetaEd I hazn't a cheeseburger now, but I've hazzed them before.
i haz cannin cheezburger
@Conrado The choice is fraught.
But is not for naught.
Or so I was...
taught.
@Mitch And so you ought.
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@jlliagre I squeaked one out.
18:49
@alphabet It depends on the can: It costs tax payers approximately $2 to dispose of each gallon can brought to the paint collection. ;-)
@Mitch dread nought
Dread the Gordian Knought.
@alphabet Ten years in Chicago isn't enough for a Frenchman to misconjugate:
> By way of example, in insolvency proceedings an action can brought against a parent company when it is ascertained that it has intermingled its property with that of its subsidiary
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@tchrist For full disclosure, when reading all that British children's literature as an American child, I thought 'draught' was supposed to be pronounced 'drawt'
@Mitch Like an aircraught.
@Mitch How forraught!
@jlliagre ENOBE
@Mitch I did too. Until I was at least eleven or twelve.
Jul 25, 2013 at 14:23, by Robusto
But that's what you get when you read a lot and don't hear things spoken. When I was a young child, for a long time I read misled as majzəld.
We still have unforced and uncorrected errors between flaunting and flouting over on ELU meta.
And still do redress for digress on ELU main.
I also somehow knew that plough ought to be pronounced plow, but it always bothered me.
19:15
Need more egress. Also egrets.
But no regrets.
A plough needs pulling by a brace of caughs.
I bough in your direction.
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user45266Yes, I’m aware that not everybody pronounces dissect as /dʌɪˈsɛkt/ ("dye-SEKT"), especially not outside of North American dialects of English, and that there are definitely some people who would argue that that’s not “correct”. The important thing is that many people do, forming the basis of thi...

Pardon me as I rye grass.
Eyerate Eyetalians and Eyeraqis.
Viaduct dialect.
Both with eye not ee.
via is also hard, since it's eye as a preposition but ee as a noun.
mamma mia is never like a mynah bird
19:23
Is the Ayatollah an Ayerainyin?
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ENOMEM means "error: no memory"
ENOFILE means "error: no file"
man errno
ENOBE means "error: no B in that word"
There was a missing be in the sentence.
mac(tchrist)% man errno | grep ENO
     2 ENOENT No such file or directory. A component of a specified pathname
     8 ENOEXEC Exec format error. A request was made to execute a file that,
     12 ENOMEM Cannot allocate memory. The new process image required more
     15 ENOTBLK Not a block device. A block device operation was attempted on
     19 ENODEV Operation not supported by device. An attempt was made to apply
     20 ENOTDIR Not a directory. A component of the specified pathname
     25 ENOTTY Inappropriate ioctl for device. A control function (see
ENOENT: Fangorn has gone walkabout.
hahaha
core dumped: your fault
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Ouch. I've been too distracted for this.
> Wrætlic is þes wealstan; wyrde gebræcon,
burgstede burston, brosnað enta geweorc.
> Soft morning, city! Lsp! I am leafy speafing. Lpf! Folty and folty all the nights have falled on to long my hair. Not a sound, falling. Lispn! No wind no word. Only a leaf, just a leaf and then leaves. The woods are fond always.
enta, eh. Was that the term that influenced JRRT?
Indeed.
> Ent - Wikipedia

The word "Ent" is from the Old English ent or eoten, meaning "giant". Tolkien borrowed the word from a phrase in the Anglo-Saxon poems The Ruin and Maxims II, orþanc enta geweorc ("cunning work of giants"), which describes Roman ruins.
Orthanc means cunning.
that tracks
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> The name Saruman (pronounced [ˈsɑrumɑn]) means "man of skill or cunning" in the Mercian dialect of Anglo-Saxon; he serves as an example of technology and modernity being overthrown by forces more in tune with nature.
Gandalf's name in the south was incanus, because Rome is in the south and Latin incanus meant way grey.
Adjective: incānus (feminine incāna, neuter incānum); first/second-declension adjective
  1. quite grey; hoary
Of course that needed to be retconned.
Tolkien had a thing for Mercian.
@tchrist I think he had a thing for Lady Godgifu.
Wife of Leofric, of course.
@tchrist I suspected sth related to errno but missed it. Too bad I also missed chatGPT hint.
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@jlliagre Did you travel to Chicago for ten years or live there for ten years?
@tchrist that's the very slow boat.
@tchrist Not me, the guy who forgot the be.
Oh right.
The insect apocalypse strikes again.
Twilight of the Fireflies.
> forwrought a1325: Destroyed, ruined, accursed. In quot. 1325 absol.

forraught c1175– Perverted.
You can see why those get confused.
fraught with peril
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He said, amid laughter: "My daughter is dafter."
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"Daughter?" he said. "Well, she oughter."
How many balboas does it take to make a magellan?
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@MetaEd sometimes I miss running Linux; their kernel is efficient and resilient than bloated Windows. But Windows GUI has coddled me for so long, hard to go back to shell commands and Emacs-like editors. Love that line. by the way, what an efficient way for the OS to protect itself from user anger while being truthful.
@tchrist @MetaEd Haven't heard about Linus Torvalds lately, does he still get involved in kernel development? Is it still true that kernel panic is rarer than Windows BSOD?
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@GratefulDisciple Linus is still involved yes. I wouldn't know how to measure rates of kernel panics against BSOD. In my personal experience both are vanishingly rare.
Core dumps predate Linux, by the way. They go way, way back.
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