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> The adult bobcat is 47.5–125 cm (18.7–49.2 in) long from the head to the base of its distinctive stubby tail, averaging 82.7 cm (32.6 in); the tail is 9 to 20 cm (3.5 to 7.9 in) long.[24] Its "bobbed" appearance gives the species its name.[27][28][29][30] An adult stands about 30 to 60 cm (12 to 24 in) at the shoulders.[21]

Adult males can range in weight from 6.4–18.3 kg (14–40 lb), with an average of 9.6 kg (21 lb); females at 4–15.3 kg (8.8–33.7 lb), with an average of 6.8 kg (15 lb).[31] The largest bobcat accurately measured on record weighed 22.2 kg (49 lb), although unverified rep
The fourth lynx is the Iberian one.
The largest, on average, is @CowperKettle 's.
Interesting.
> The bobcat's range does not seem to be limited by human populations, but by availability of suitable habitat; only large, intensively cultivated tracts are unsuitable for the species.[35] The animal may appear in back yards in "urban edge" environments, where human development intersects with natural habitats.[44] If chased by a dog, it usually climbs up a tree.[42]
It's much more adaptable than its larger brethren.
Its diet is more varied, and it is less bothered by people.
There were a lot of people out walking their dogs this afternoon. The kitty was up on the protected roof of an unoccupied home somewhat overgrown with strategic camouflage, lounging in the radiant heat of the westering sun before the clouds moved in.
Sunrise in the Enchanted Hills this morning.
I woke up too late for the real fireworks.
Just a little, yes.
But I like the spun sugar look.
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I slept until like 6:20 this morning, which is a good hour or two later than normal.
Also, it's nice once in a while to see a sunrise that isn't oversaturated.
Just tastefully elegant.
@Robusto You could have gotten up 5 minutes earlier if you'd wanted that. :)
What, and not get my FULL beauty rest? Puh-leeze!
Civil twilight seems to alert me to Aurora's rosy-orange fingers clawing their way up out of night.
@tchrist Is that a lynx?
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No, it's a larynx. They make more noise.
@DannyuNDos Yes, a Lynx rufus, the smallest of the four lynxes, commonly called a bobcat or sometime red lynx in English.
I found one lounging up on a nearby roof a couple hours ago. Scroll backwards.
Most Koreans forget there is a native Korean word for a lynx: 시라소니 shi-ra-so-ni.
Shira sounds like a tiger monarch.
Wait, no, actually, it's 스라소니 seu-ra-so-ni.
Am disappoint.
They are a simply gorgeous cat.
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Dialects tend to be pronounce-able easier.
Lynxes don't live in South Korea anyway. They live in North Korea.
That's too bad. Your will be the same species as most Europeans have.
They are a little less flexible and need larger ranges.
And, perhaps, colder weather than our little red ones always need.
"Little". Never call a 30 or 40 pound cat "little" unless he's a lion or tiger cub. Otherwise he'll be glad to show you just how little he isn't. :)
That's all four species of lynx.
> The four species of lynx. From top-left, clockwise: Eurasian lynx (L. lynx), Iberian lynx (L. pardinus), bobcat (L. rufus), Canada lynx (L. canadensis)
So yours if the top-left one and mine are the two bottom ones. The Iberian one looks a little odd like he's been bred for the Mandarins. :)
Those are average measurements. Exceptional specimens are of course larger. We've recorded larger bobcats than Canada lynxes, by a whisker.
That said... Can I refer to Felinae as "small" cats, as contrary to that Pantherinae are "big" cats?
Do you consider a cheetah small? What about a puma? :)
But yes, "the big cats" means the panthers alone.
Because they roar.
Well, the snow leopard does not.
Felinae does include some larger species, particularly the cheetah and especially the puma. But they purr bidirectionally; they do not roar.
Snow leopards are around 100 pounds, so bigger than normally used for "medium" cats. Plus they're panthers.
So snow leopards are more like "small" tigers than leopards.
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Yeah... I guess biologists won't be satisfied if I drew a three-pronged fork for that regard.
> The snow leopard's vocalizations include meowing, grunting, prusten and moaning. They can purr when exhaling.
@DannyuNDos Cladograms really prefer binary forks.
"prusten"??
Clouded "leopards" are only medium sized, up to like 50 pounds.
So a little bigger than lynxes.
Half the size of a snow leopard.
Clouded leopards have a fully ossified hyoid bone like pumas and cheetahs and house cats, which means they can purr not roar.
> In mammals, the hyoid often determines whether one can roar. If the hyoid is incompletely ossified (for example: lions) it allows the animal to roar, but not purr. If the hyoid is completely ossified (for example: cheetahs), it does not allow the animal to roar, but instead will allow the animal to purr and meow, as seen in house cats (lions, cheetahs and house cats all belong to the family Felidae).[20]
> Unlike the big cats in the genus Panthera, the puma cannot roar. Instead, it can growl, hiss, screech, and purr. Since pumas are, in the biological sense, small cats, they are capable of purring continuously. The big cats can only purr while breathing out.
@tchrist What is prusten?
@DannyuNDos The "biological sense" of "small cats" vs "big cats" does not always align with size considerations. It does, however, align with behavioral expectations: the "big cats" will attack you from behind just because you turn your back on them. It's 100% instinct. That's why they reduce tiger attacks by having people wear funny hat-things with faces on the back sides.
@Robusto No clue. It's not in the OED.
Prusten is a form of communicative behaviour exhibited by some members of the family Felidae. Prusten is also referred to as chuffing or chuffle (verb and noun). It is described as a short, low intensity, non-threatening vocalization. In order to vocalize a chuff, the animal's mouth is closed and air is blown through the nostrils, producing a breathy snort. It is typically accompanied by a head bobbing movement. It is often used between two cats as a greeting, during courtship, or by a mother comforting her cubs. The vocalization is produced by tigers, jaguars, snow leopards, clouded leopards and...
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There are some tigers living in North Korea. I wonder whether we should arrest them upon unification.
@DannyuNDos No, please do not.
Oh, it's chuffing.
First time I've heard the term.
Nvm; South Korea isn't arresting bears anyway.
> It has been found that tigers are most sensitive to lower frequencies and are likely able to hear in the infrasonic range, which is likely reflected in the production of calls such as prusten.[6] It has also been hypothesized that hearing in the low frequency range is beneficial in communicating and locating prey in the low-visibility jungle habitats where these cats usually live.[7]
@Robusto They stole the German verb.
Noun: prusten (uncountable)
  1. A sound made by tigers and snow leopards without the intent to threaten, producing a breathy snort by blowing through the nostrils whilst the mouth is closed — a low-frequency equivalent of the purring found in domestic cats.
  2. ibidem, pages 163–164:
  3. Prusten is the quietest of tiger calls, a puff through the nose to express friendliness and harmless intentions.
Verb: prusten (weak, third-person singular present prustet, past tense prustete, past participle geprustet, auxiliary haben)
  1. to snort (especially with laughter)
  2. to splutter
OK, snorting.
Yes.
I've always known that as chuffing.
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Well, it covers a lot of bases in German, so ...
Puffing, blowing, sputtering, snorting, etc.
Sputtering, not stuttering ...
> chuff: A breathy noise produced by a tiger, similar in function to a cat's purr.
Bears huff. I'm not sure, but maybe they chuff too?
> Chuffing has also been recorded in polar bears. Unlike in cats, polar bears do not chuff through the nostrils but through a partially open mouth.
The white ones, yes.
So now I wonder if chuffed (BrE) derives from that.
chuffed as an adjective, "pleased, happy," 1860, British dialect, from obsolete chuff "swollen with fat" (1520s). A second British dialectal chuff has an opposite meaning, "displeased, gruff" (1832), from chuff "rude fellow," or, as Johnson has it, "a coarse, fat-headed, blunt clown" (mid-15c.), which is of unknown origin. Related: Chuffed "pleased" (1957). (Etymonline)
Oh hey, genets purr, too.
> Although true purring is exclusive to felids and viverrids,[1] other animals such as raccoons produce vocalizations that sound similar to true purring. Animals that produce purr-like sounds include mongooses, kangaroos, wallabies, wallaroos, badgers, rabbits and guinea pigs.
Genets being viverrids not felids.
> No cat can both purr and roar. The subdivision of the Felidae into "purring cats" (Felinae) on one hand and "roaring cats" (Pantherinae) on the other goes back to Owen[10] and was definitively introduced by Pocock,[11] based on whether the hyoid bone of the larynx is incompletely ("roarers") or completely ("purrers") ossified. However, Weissengruber et al. argued that the ability of a cat species to purr is not affected by the anatomy of its hyoid.[12]

The "roaring cats" (lion, Panthera leo; tiger, P. tigris; jaguar, P. onca; leopard, P. pardus) have an incompletely ossified hyoid, which
Cats can make disturbingly human-like sounds, or monster-like ones.
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> other animals such as raccoons produce vocalizations that sound similar to true purring
Would someone like to explain why raccoon purrs are not considered "true" purring?
I suspect anti-raccoon prejudice.
Surely one could find a definition of purring that does not pointedly exclude us.
@tchrist Some of those are like the sound Bosco makes when he wants a snack. Kind of like ack, which is mimicry when we say, "Do you want a snack?"
Yes, pumas can make very kitty-like sounds.
Plus they can purr continuously, not merely on the exhale the way some leopards can.
But so can cheetahs. Pumas and cheetahs are surprisingly closely related, as these things go.
Cheetahs don't have retractable claws.
Not fully.
Everything above the Pantherinae (roaring cats) are the Felinae (purring cats). There are far more species of the latter than of the former, something like 34 vs 7.
But some Pantherinae can purr not roar. No Felinae roar, to my knowledge.
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I've decided I don't care that King Charles attended the Easter service. So why is the news so full of that crap?
Word of the day: sissy bar. According to Wikipedia: a sissy bar, also called a "sister bar" or "passenger backrest", is an addition to the rear of a bicycle or motorcycle that allows the rider or passenger to recline against it while riding.
I saw this term out of context today and was...confused and rather surprised to learn the actual meaning.
@alphabet That is a very old term. I first heard it when I was a child.
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Well, they might as well have done that, since they were going to get blamed for it anyway.
Hoy fue un corto paseo dominical en bicicleta. Sólo 40 millas.
¿Y cómo es que el día de hoy fue un paseo? :)
Desfile de Pascua (Easter Parade, en inglés) es una película musical estadounidense de 1948 protagonizada por Judy Garland, Fred Astaire, Peter Lawford y Ann Miller. La película contiene algunas de las canciones más conocidas de Astaire y Garland, incluidas «Easter Parade», «Steppin' Out with My Baby» y «We're a Couple of Swells», todas de Irving Berlin. Gene Kelly originalmente había sido elegido para interpretar el papel protagónico, pero se rompió el tobillo. Luego le ofrecieron el papel a Astaire, que se había retirado dos años antes. Muy ansioso por volver a trabajar, Astaire consultó a Kelly…
You aren't supposed to say retirado to mean jubilado.
That's a mistranslation.
It does happen sometimes. It always seems like an English-language contact-effect.
Sense 13 just isn't the one that normally comes to mind.
It’s a much more targeted word.
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@tchrist ¿No es correcto usar dominical con un paseo en bicicleta?
One should have a ride, not a walk.
I dunno.
@Robusto Pues sí lo es: eso es normal. El problema que vi era que dijiste que el día mismo "fue" un paseo, lo cual me pareció un poco raro. Tal vez tengo sueño.
@tchrist That's my tired English brain talking. I meant to say "domingo corto" ... oh well.
But I messed it up.
En vez de decir no sé quizá que "tuviste" un paseo, o que "fuiste en" un paseo, o que lo "hiciste". Se ha puesto el sol y de ahí mi cerebro también.
Like I messed up my reservations for Mallorca and had to straighten them out over the phone. I tried in Spanish but understood not a word of whatever they were speaking. Catalan? Dunno. I asked for someone to speak English and that was almost as bad.
I couldn't figure out if you meant ser or ir there, given how they have the same preterite.
@Robusto They probably would not have answered in Catalan if you were speaking in Castilian. That would be annoying. But they may well have been native Catalan speakers, and may have had a "funny" island accent.
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Well, that's a good question. I wanted to mean whatever should be said to impart the concept of "having taken a bike ride" ...
Annoying to the point of deliberate rudeness towards a paying customer, so I doubt they did that.
@tchrist No, I don't think so. And my call was close to midnight, the beginning of Easter, so I didn't take any offense. I think the phone connection was very sketchy anyway.
Catalans do have "back Ls" which Castilian lack, and sometimes this shows up in their Spanish if they're code switching. And they do vowel reductions.
I'll see how I do in person. I hope I fare better.
So the L of English full not of English lit. And the Catalans have that it all positions, not just the syllable coda. They speak further back in their mouths, just like the Portuguese often do, unlike Castilians who speak more forward the way Italians do.
Yes, I'm sure you'll do better in person. Phones are impossible.
It often sounds like they're swallowing their words a little.
Remind me when you'll be there?
02:02
First two weeks in May.
Oh that will be completely delightful.
Excellent.
That's what we're shooting for.
I just noticed that my first cherry blossoms burst out today. I sure hope it doesn't snow on them tonight; I want cherries.
I did have a minor unintended success in Spanish a couple of weeks ago. One of our club members was going to Argentina and said he had taken three days of "intense" immersion in Spanish. I replied, "¿Y ahora puedes hablar Español perfecto, no?" And an Espanish-espeaking cyclist from Colombia burst out laughing. I think he was laughing with me, anyway.
hah
I hope they taught him not to freak out over the Argentine singular informal vos sabés conjugation instead of tu sabes.
And they're zheístas, of course.
02:11
Like anybody can understand Argentinians anyway. One of my teachers was from there and it was a godawful mush-mouthed mess. And me being used to a Colombiana and a Peruvian.
Well, Colombians speak very clearly.
It is true. I love them for that.
Viggo Mortensen is a native rioplatense speaker.
He grew up there.
I've heard that. And also Swedish. And speaks English as well as I do. How dare he.
02:14
Ah, Danish.
Native in Danish, English, and Argentine.
Everybody in Denmark speaks English at least as well as I do, I think.
Anyway, must put head to pillow. All tuckered out. 'Night!
night
same
hecho polvo
You can listen to five minutes of him talking about his childhood there.
And you'll understand him.
Well, mostly. :)
 
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04:11
It's only 50 days left till Liza Doolittle Day
> Christ have risen!
Use the services of the Israeli healthcare system
> If Ally hands in purchase order P4, the
college will install both machines side-by-side, and pre-load
one of them with a coin. If a customer puts a coin in the
other slot, then one of the machines will consume its coin
and dispense its confectionery!
So this is the multiplicative disjunction...
If such vending machines were IRL, it would render very awkward to customers.
 
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My hemoglobin is above the range, by a tiny sliver, and MCHC is below the range, by a tiny sliver.
 
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#WhenTaken #34 (01.04.2024)

I scored 687/1000 🎉

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2️⃣ 📍 153.5 metres - 🗓️ 22 yrs - ⚡ 147 / 200
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@jlliagre What if the letter you're thinking of was already represented by a blank?
@Robusto Ah, of course. That explains it.
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I scored 720/1000 🎉

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2️⃣ 📍 451.2 metres - 🗓️ 20 yrs - ⚡ 155 / 200
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Too often the only clues about the date have a margin of error of at least 25 years.
15:53
@Robusto In #3, the car is very likely the one my father owned at that time. I didn't believe the clues on #5, I should have.
16:12
@jlliagre The last one really threw me. :(
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I scored 824/1000 🎉

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@jlliagre I didn't even notice the car in three. It was the fashion, and the style of street signs. Five really threw me, both temporally and geographically. That one is really surprising to me.
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17:16
"Being frustrated is disagreeable, but the real disasters in life begin when you get what you want."
@DannyuNDos In Russian it's "to use a cannon to shoot at sparrows" english.stackexchange.com/questions/100218/…
@CowperKettle In mathematical English, its "swatting flies with nukes."
@CowperKettle See also english.stackexchange.com/q/14685 . Probably the one should be closed as a dupe of the other. (In this case, I would suggest dupe closing the older one as a duplicate of the newer one, since the newer one has more votes and answers).
@tchrist I dunno, he was born in Manhattan, his mother was Danish and his father American. They lived in the Argentine (ahem) til he was 11, then parents divorced and he moved to the states. He is one of my favorite actors. But an article in La Nación has only praise for the man's Argentine Spanish.
@XanderHenderson Another thing on ELL and ELU is when more than one answer is good.
17:32
Verb: nuke it from orbit
  1. (informal, often humorous) The referent of it is dangerous or undesirable and should be eliminated.
@CowperKettle Yeah, the referent of (the word) it means the object is dangerous or undesirable and should be eliminated. God, the people who write this shite. It's just writing, it's not "an expression". Or maybe since I'm always saying that about expressions (that they aren't ones) and that they are just writing, I should be eliminated. [boohoo]
@Lambie I agree. Which is why I suggest closing one as a duplicate of the other, so that someone reading either question will have quick access to the other.
@tchrist Speaking of Spanish, take a look at [dar] el matarile. The term was asked about then deleted. And it's not in trad. dics.I had found a very interesting study re unusual slang (esp. killing, etc.). The person removed their question, so I re-asked it so I could post that fascinating study and got two downvotes. Esta gente lo que hace es dar palizas.
@XanderHenderson Sure, I agree. I just couldn't stop myself from editing it.
18:21
Eggcorn of the day: malice of fore thought.
This is where that comes from.
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Because it's was yesterday's one.
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My weeping willow.
19:49
@jlliagre It looks quite sad.
Thus the name.
I pruned it severely last year but it will survive and "resurrect".
You'd be sad too if you were just a stump.
When I was in Dordogne I noticed many trees that were just stumps but with a tangle of branches on top. I was wondering what that was about.
Weeping willows?
No idea. Just trees, I guess.
@Lambie En cuanto a lo de las palizas por acá: Como era en principio, ya es, y lo será siempre. Y en cuanto a la jerga esa que mencionaste, su significado depende del paisicito americano en que te hallas.
20:04
@Robusto By the way, I usually can't remember its English name (saule pleureur in French and it's not a "crying something"). My mnemonic method is to recall that its name sounds a little like Sleepy Hollow :-)
@jlliagre Hey, it works. I just remember the alliteration.
But the main signifying characteristic of the weeping willow is its cascade of supple, leafy branches. If it's mainly just a tall stump I couldn't tell it from a maple or an elm.
@jlliagre The correct answer was "Weeping willows always look sad." :(
@Robusto Yes, but you could tell it from a ponderosa.
@XanderHenderson You mean a ponderosa pine?
@Robusto Is there any other kind?
I just never hear it given by its qualifier alone.
I mean, would you call a quaking aspen just a "quaking"?
20:11
Pondos are like scratch-n-sniff stickers: give them a little scratch, and they smell like vanilla.
@Robusto In a mixed conifer forest, everything that isn't a fir is a pine. So there are pondos and jeffs and dougs.
That is more than specific enough.
Though where I live, you are more likely to run into pjs than pondos and dougs.
Except we're not in a mixed conifer forest at the moment. Your mileage may vary.
@Robusto Yeah, but if you are talking pondos, you're probably in a mixed conifer forest.
Also, is there anything else in world that is a ponderosa ____?
Lots of things quake. Some things quack. But how many things ponderose?
@jlliagre looks like a totem pole
@XanderHenderson Yes. A ranch on the show Bonanza.
@CowperKettle They usually have wings, don't they?
20:19
@XanderHenderson I'm not, and I never talk pondos.
@Robusto Exactly.
@XanderHenderson Or from an aspen or a cottonwood or a scrub oak.
@XanderHenderson The word just means that it weighs a lot, or is done with great care and consideration.
@XanderHenderson Whatever point you're making, you're going to have to excuse me. I don't speak with varieties of tree as if they're beer buddies.
> ponderoso, sa

Del lat. ponderōsus.

1. adj. Que pesa mucho.

2. adj. Que hace o se hace con gran cuidado.
@Robusto Ah! There's yer problem! Trees like beer and conversation.
@tchrist Yeah, but that's in one of those non-English languages what isn't English.
20:22
I don't have a problem..
> By the waters of Babylon,
we sat down and wept,
as we remembered Zion.
We hung our harps on willows there.
For there our captors required of us song,
saying, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion.”
“How shall we sing the Lord’s song
in a foreign land?”
I like Lady Day's song better.
You can tell a pondo from a jeff by the pincones: Prickly pondo, gentle jeff.
@jlliagre Oh, indeed
But if they're just stumps, you have to go by smell.
The moral of the story is that I spent way too much of my 20s tromping about in the Sierra, with a need to be able to identify different plant species. Field archaeology requires a very shallow knowledge of a very wide array of things.
20:30
Pinus jeffreyi, also known as Jeffrey pine, Jeffrey's pine, yellow pine and black pine, is a North American pine tree. It is mainly found in California, but also in the westernmost part of Nevada, southwestern Oregon, and northern Baja California.: 4  It is named in honor of its botanist documenter John Jeffrey. == Description == Pinus jeffreyi is a large coniferous evergreen tree, reaching 25 to 40 meters (82 to 131 ft) tall, rarely up to 53 m (174 ft) tall, though smaller when growing at or near tree line. The leaves are needle-like, in bundles of three, stout, glaucous gray-green, 12 t...
> Our Bespoke appliance makeover sweeps is calling your name
OK, Samsung, that's just creepy.
@Robusto Babylon reminds me a huge Boney M hit in Europe.
"Rivers of Babylon" is a Rastafari song written and recorded by Brent Dowe and Trevor McNaughton of the Jamaican reggae group The Melodians in 1970. The lyrics are adapted from the texts of Psalms 19 and 137 in the Hebrew Bible. The Melodians' original version of the song appeared on the soundtrack album for the 1972 movie The Harder They Come, which made it internationally known. The song was re-popularized in Europe by the 1978 Boney M. cover version, which was awarded a platinum disc and is one of the top-ten, all-time best-selling singles in the UK. The B-side of the single, "Brown Girl in...
@jlliagre Haile Selassie Ras Tafari!
@Robusto Schade.
20:43
@Mitch Hey, they got a lot of hard bark on 'em.
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Q: Is the phrase "hard bark on [someone]" just a Hollywood invention?

RobustoThe only times I have ever heard the description "hard bark on [someone]" was in film. Specifically, just two films. The first was a 1967 film, inspired by some short stories by Elmore Leonard, called Hombre: Grimes: Mister, you've got a lot of hard bark on you walkin' down here like this. N...

Look man I expended all my pun energy in that one needling response and I have nothing left to root out.
@CowperKettle I mean... it's not far off.
@Robusto I saw that. First time I've seen that phrase. Sure I saw the movie but it didn't even stand out to me that here was a strange phrase that I didn't understand. I didn't even hear it when I heard it.
@Mitch Your problem seems to stem from overwork. I suggest you take a leaf of absence for a week or two.
Bernard Stiegler (French: [bɛʁnaʁ stiɡlɛʁ]; Seine-et-Oise, France 1 April 1952 – 5 August 2020) was a French philosopher. He was head of the Institut de recherche et d'innovation (IRI), which he founded in 2006 at the Centre Georges-Pompidou. He was also the founder in 2005 of the political and cultural group, Ars Industrialis; the founder in 2010 of the philosophy school, pharmakon.fr, held at Épineuil-le-Fleuriel; and a co-founder in 2018 of Collectif Internation, a group of "politicised researchers" His best known work is Technics and Time, 1: The Fault of Epimetheus. Stiegler has been described...
French philosopher, famous for spending 5 years in jail for armed robbery.
> Between 1978 and 1983 Stiegler was incarcerated for armed robbery, first at the Prison Saint-Michel in Toulouse, and then at the Centre de détention in Muret. It was during this period that he became interested in philosophy, studying it by correspondence with Gérard Granel at the Université de Toulouse-Le-Mirail.
Ah, he actually became first initiated in philosophy in prison, in a philosophy course.
> “I’m seeing euthanasia as..option brought to the table..by psychiatrists..especially in..young people with psychiatric disorders, where the healthcare professional seems to give up on them more easily...”
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@CowperKettle Not the typical bank robber.
> But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
He wasn't a typical robber
"“I entered the review committee in 2005, and I was there until 2014,” Boer told me. “In those years, I saw the Dutch euthanasia practice evolve from death being a last resort to death being a default option.” He ultimately resigned."
@XanderHenderson then I will make like a tree and leave.
 
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Nope. Missing the main one: matarile
1. Expresión con la que se incita a matar a alguien, real o figuradamente, o acabar con algo. Si lo encontráis, matarile. Es muy normal en la expresión dar matarile: Los miembros de la banda contraria le dieron matarile. También, según Federico Corriente, podría proceder de la expresión del **árabe andalusí** má tarí li ‘¿qué me ves? [en tu bola de adivina cuando se buscan las llaves del castillo en el fondo del mar]’).IN SPAIN. https://diccet.com/2021/03/29/matarile/matarili
And it's interesting that my husband said that to me right away and he is Andaluz.
Cierto es que aún nos queda el País Vasco para responder a la inquietante pregunta del "Matarile", palabra que en el argot popular significa "matar", "apiolar", "darle el matarile" a la víctima de ocasión.diariocordoba.com/opinion/2003/06/11/matarile-38967051.html
Sorry, lost the first link. The kids rhyming thing does not count.
@Lambie The DRAE always lets me down. Sigh. dle.rae.es/matarile
> podría proceder de la expresión del árabe andalusí
I'll trust un andaluz but I can't speak Arabic me.
@Lambie Pues que no hagas preguntas inquietantes entonces. :)
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A: "That promised land for which he was to prepare, but scarcely to enter" - why is this wrong rather than awkward?

alphabetThe problem with Rosebery's phrase becomes obvious if you move the for into the relative clause: that promised land which he was to prepare for, but scarcely to enter for. The issue is that prepare, in the relevant sense, takes as a complement a prepositional phrase with the preposition for, bu...

This question I answered is way more specific than the supposed duplicate. Voting to reopen

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