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@CowperKettle Tea Party!
 
@alphabet Voted.
 
@jlliagre Yes.
 
12:24 AM
 
So this guy went viral on YouTube because of the Liverpool accent he demonstrated in a few interviews. If you turn on closed captioning to try and figure out what he's saying, YouTube auto-detects it as Dutch rather than English.
I think I understand about 80% of that.
 
Some of the accent might seem a bit similar to a Dutch accent.
 
@alphabet about 5% :-(
I am sham(?) .... only team to win ... oh man ... ... ... performance ...
 
@alphabet That's about right.
 
I have no idea what the first few words he says are (up until "only team").
 
12:37 AM
@jlliagre It's always harder to understand accents not in your native tongue. Cf. the earlier conversation about Plattdeutsch, Schweizerdeutsch, etc.
 
Aug 27, 2023 at 23:41, by jlliagre
@alphabet I spent a day in Liverpool and I'll remember it forever. I was understood but some people's answers were pure Greek to me.
 
Oh, wait, I'd already posted another of that guy's videos
 
12:52 AM
> I'm sound, me you know Paul, I'm fucking buzzing, 3-1 win against Arsenal, only team to win the first three games is right! Come on fucking better that you know Paul, that was Scouse a fuck that performance is right.
 
1:31 AM
Occupants of a sod house in Drenthe, the Netherlands, photographed standing outside in 1936
 
I'm sure it could be quite comfortable if built at the right location!
I wonder why the roof is shaped like that, though.
 
And they even have a spare bicycle inner tube
A well-off family
I love how even the boy has wooden clogs on
 
The house is well appointed.
 
I can see no windows though
Unless the bicycle wheel is a window
 
Yeah farmers had wooden clogs. Some still do.
The window will probably be in the back gable?
 
1:42 AM
I wonder if they drill tiny holes on the upside (instep) of the clogs for better ventilation
 
Probably not.
Or maybe some do.
I don't really know.
 
2:26 AM
@jlliagre "You won't always be a handmaid. When the woman no longer can do it, I will have us married, and get a cow of dung, and next I'll see piglets."
 
@CowperKettle "When the old lady will be no more (will die)" [...] "I'll get another cow" "I'll raise piglets".
> Tu seras pas toujours la servante, quand la bonne-femme elle sera plus, je nous marierons, alors, j'aurai une vache de plus, puis après, j'élèverons des petits gorets.
He uses je (I) for nous (we).
 
2:44 AM
Ah!
> The least-resolved issue in this medical complication is the absence of clear definitions and diagnostic criteria.
I wonder if I need the hyphen in least-resolved
I decreased my lamotrigine to 50 mg, and the side effects went away. But I added gabapentine to the scheme yesterday, 900 mg daily in three separate intakes of 300 mg, and voila, I'm having a pain indicating left-side epididymitis, again. What gives...
Maybe I need to go cold turkey on anticonvulsants and if the pain reemerges, consult with an urologist or whatever they call the specific doctor
 
3:14 AM
@tchrist OP turns out to be a native speaker of Cantonese according to a post of theirs from Japanese SE, if that helps :). — magni 27 mins ago
So this is all about Pinyin-poisoned priming, nothing else. Time to move on.
@CowperKettle "Need" is such a strong word. I don't think there would be a problem either way.
Unless you were talking about resolved issues.
This is a big resolved issue, that is a small resolved issue.
Which resolved issue was the least in importance here?
This is the sort of thing that the hyphen can help with. It just isn't always possible to find a bad reading without it in all cases.
Least can be an adjective, or it can be an adverb. The hyphen makes it unambiguously an adverb, even though they tell us that we should not hyphenate adverb adjective combos like an obviously-wrong answer.
There, I've added a hyphen. :)
I'm pretty sure nobody would misread it without one, though.
Canton races sing this song, doodah, doodah.
> The song was the impetus for renaming Camptown, a village of Clinton Township, Essex County, New Jersey. When the new ballad was published in 1850, some residents of the village were mortified to be associated with the bawdiness in song. The wife of the local postmaster suggested Irvington, to commemorate writer Washington Irving, which was adopted in 1852.
> De Camptown ladies sing dis song, Doo-dah! doo-dah!
De Camptown race-track five miles long, Oh, doo-dah day!
I come down dah wid my hat caved in, Doo-dah! doo-dah!
I go back home wid a pocket full of tin, Oh, doo-dah day!

CHORUS
Gwine to run all night!
Gwine to run all day!
I'll bet my money on de bob-tail nag,
Somebody bet on de bay.

De long tail filly and de big black hoss, Doo-dah! doo-dah!
Dey fly de track and dey both cut across, Oh, doo-dah-day!
De blind hoss sticken in a big mud hole, Doo-dah! doo-dah!
I have clearly led too sheltered a life to see the bawdiness in that song.
Is "De long tail filly and de big black hoss" something naughty?
Maybe a southern belle whose ballroom gown had a long train who snuck off with a slave foreman?
Yeah, can't see it. Sorry.
Maybe "Camptown racists sing this song"?
Easy to hear but hard to see.
@jlliagre Oh did they show Hogan's Heroes in France, too? :)
 
 
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6:39 AM
@CowperKettle Assuming the data isn't misleading, what happened? The Republican candidates ramping up their campaigning?
 
6:51 AM
Is phosphoric acid (e.g. in soda) really that harmful?
I kinda doubt it. Probably a myth.
As a kid I was constantly told that soda can cause osteoporosis
 
@M.A.R. Probably yes. I'm trying to avoid news and avoid political stuff on social nets. I feel like it wrecks my brain. I'm trying not to even touch some like buttons, in order to avoid being mentally drawn in.
 
Well maybe if you're already a hyperphosphatemic CKD patient with more PTH in your veins than blood
 
@M.A.R. As a kid I was told that Coca-Cola could dissolve a disposable razor blade
As a kind of proof that it was not good for you
 
The sugar is definitely much worse
 
@M.A.R. Yes
 
6:59 AM
@CowperKettle I mean, given enough time, mineral water can probably dissolve a razorblade
 
I want to try the much hyped fasting-mimicking diet, 5 days per month nature.com/articles/s41467-024-45260-9
Or miniram diet (mini-Ramadan), as I would call it.
microram is 1 days instead of 5
and nanoram is 5 hours, LOL
and picoram is 30 minutes
 
I'm always on a nanoram diet but I can't recommend it
 
 
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@CowperKettle The Japanese is more understandable ("I could write it down"), but not by much. One more example of "Japlish" ...
 
@CowperKettle For the fascists’ playbook is cranked to fortissimo.
 
In all shops there are signs saying "Notice: META and FACEBOOK and etc. are extremist organizations and participation in their activities or promotion or .. prosecuted under the Russian Law". This is done because numberless products, from toilet paper to whatever, might have Instagram or Facebook icons, and stores cannot physically process this deluge of products to remove or blot over all these icons.
 
2:12 PM
@CowperKettle How many people actually believe this?
> The curfew will run from midnight through 6 a.m. each night until Monday, Alina T. Hudak, the city manager, announced on Friday morning. It will apply only to South Beach, the part of the city most popular with tourists and revelers.

The sale of alcoholic beverages for “off-premises consumption” — read: on the street — will also be prohibited after 6 p.m. each day the curfew is in place.
 
@CowperKettle This would be funny if the US weren't currently trying to institute a ban on TikTok.
It's for "national security reasons" so that the Chinese can't spy on us, because of course it is.
 
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@tchrist I'd say zero, even among the most ardent folks
It's too laughable
 
@CowperKettle I know I'm naïve, but I wonder why the regime persists with this blanket of propaganda given how even they must know it makes them look like liars and fools in the eyes of all who read these placards.
Keeping up appearances for its own sake, perhaps, to bolster threats of eventual enforcement actions. It's not for me to guess, as I'm not vile or devious enough to imagine what they're doing this for.
 
2:39 PM
However shitty your life is now, it could only be worse in a Russian prison.
 
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3:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer (89): Why is 'women' sometimes pronounced as 'woman'?‭ by user500283‭ on english.SE
 
3:39 PM
Order No. 270 (Russian: Приказ № 270, romanized: Prikaz No. 270), entitled "On the responsibility of military personnel for surrendering and leaving weapons to the enemy" (Об ответственности военнослужащих за сдачу в плен и оставление врагу оружия, Ob otvetstvennosti voyennosluzhashchikh za sdachu v plen i ostavleniye vragu oruzhiya) issued on 16 August 1941, by Joseph Stalin during the Axis invasion of the Soviet Union, ordered Red Army personnel to "fight to the last", virtually banned commanders from surrendering, and set out severe penalties for senior officers and deserters regarded as...
> The order required superiors to shoot these deserters on the spot.[2] Their family members were subjected to arrest.[1]
Vladimir Putin is much more lenient. A bill he signed into a law this month only increases the jail term for surrendering from the previous range of 'up to 7 years' to a new range of 'from 3 to 10 years'.
And if your surrender had features of state treason, whatever they may be, you still would not be shot, and your family will not be touched. You will only get a jail term of up to 20 years, and voila, after this tiny speck of time you're free as a bird.
> Commenting on Order No. 270, Stalin stated: "There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors."
 
4:00 PM
@CowperKettle Fair point.
Not all pogroms need be religious ones to be brutal.
 
@tchrist They did but I didn't watch it. It was called Papa Schultz.
 
Word of the eve: end run - an evasive trick or maneuver; from baseball
> George S. Patton began his assault on the line at Troina, but it was a linchpin of the defense and stubbornly held. Despite three 'end run' amphibious landings the Germans managed to keep the bulk of their forces beyond reach of capture, and maintain their evacuation plans.
To end-run something - to avoid artfully ("end-running the law")
Noun: end run (plural end runs)
  1. A running play in American football in which the player carrying the ball attempts to avoid being tackled by evading the defending players from the opposing team
  2. (informal, by extension) An attempt to avoid a difficult situation by not confronting it directly
Oh. Not baseball, but american football
 
@CowperKettle That's infelicitous.
 
End-running the dunners
@tchrist Could be so.. I picked it from Merriam-Webster's merriam-webster.com/dictionary/end%20run
 
You can outfox the law but you cannot out the fox law.
 
4:11 PM
> Spinks was apparently aware of the propensity for some of his staff to make end runs around the bureaucracy.
—Travis Loller, Fortune, 28 Dec. 2023
 
But you can fox the in laws, if you're lucky.
 
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4:37 PM
The spy gondola, spy basket, observation car or sub-cloud car (German: Spähgondel or Spähkorb) is a crewed vessel that an airship hiding in cloud cover could lower several hundred metres to a point below the clouds in order to inconspicuously observe the ground and help navigate the airship. It was a byproduct of Peilgondel development (a gondola to weight an airship's radio-locating antenna). They were used almost exclusively by the Germans in the First World War on their military airships. == Development == The Peilgondel was developed by Paul Jaray to act as a heavy plumbbob for an airship's...
Cool. Imagine being suspended 500 meters below an airship, and not even seeing the airship, since it's in the cloud
 
@tchrist rule by fear. For a Russian citizen, the regime is so powerful that it's getting away despite shamelessly lying.
The passive sheepish attitude also prevails here, so it's relatable for me.
 
1984
 
It's not that people buy what the regime says, it's that they're averse to having opinions of their own. There's often no obvious social or political pressure, it's self-hypercorrection.
 
@M.A.R. Ovis orientalis
 
@M.A.R. Based on fear, ultimately.
Probably there's more to it than just fear, though. People desire an ordered society, and if the only order available is Putin's or Xi's or Kim Jong Un's, then that is what they will gravitate to, up to the point where they're starving or warring or whatever, then they will cleave to that.
But fear is definitely a factor.
@M.A.R. I guess you mean to say the people are sheep, but "sheepish" itself first brings to mind someone behaving in an embarrassed manner.
 
4:52 PM
Justice and retribution follow greed and corruption as surely as the dog returns to his vomit.
Not a wholly revolutionary idea.
 
@Robusto well, people are sheep everywhere. Asians though are especially scared of having opinions of their own, and they try to justify it by saying they don't want to sow discord.
 
@M.A.R. Because they're afraid of being punished for voicing those opinions.
 
Maybe it's just the culture of oppressed peoples. While Americans proudly read about how they reestablished fancy things like democracy, most Asians read about the blackhole that their histories have been for the past few centuries. But it's presumptuous of me to assume I understand it fully.
 
@M.A.R. I agree with that. Even here. I'm just pointing out that the word "sheepish" has different overtones from, say, "sheep-like."
 
5:08 PM
@Robusto I always picture a dog with lowered ears when I hear or use the word "sheepish". More humbled than embarrassed
That's why I used it like that
 
@M.A.R. I'm not really correcting you. Your English is uncannily good. I just thought you might not have been aware of those overtones.
In fact, you're probably the most fluent pineapple here. ;-)
@Cowp comes close to that, but I would award you the title.
 
Isn't Cerb also a pineapple?
 
No, not really.
At least I don't think of him that way.
 
@Robusto ooooh yeeeah victory lap
 
OK, no taunting in chat.
 
5:13 PM
@tchrist fantasy RPG name generator?
 
@M.A.R. The journey from Canaan and Byzantium to Cathay and Miyako is long and uneven across many axes of travel, including that of time. There are buried pocket universes we shall likely never know there.
 
One day we should have a contest for MFP.
 
> Phoenix sinks into decay
Haughty dragon yearns to slay.
Lyorn growls and lowers horn
Tiassa dreams and plots are born.
Hawk looks down from lofty flight
Dzur stalks and blends with night.
Issola strikes from courtly bow
Tsalmoth maintains though none knows how.
Vallista rends and then rebuilds
Jhereg feeds on others' kills.
Quiet iorich won't forget
Sly chreotha weaves his net.
Yendi coils and strikes, unseen
Orca circles, hard and lean.
Frightened teckla hides in grass
Jhegaala shifts as moments pass.
 
@tchrist Why do people always pronounce "Canaan" like kay-nun? It seems like the second syllable should be stretched, like "kuh-NAHN*.
 
@Robusto Because we prefer words stressed on the penult.
> < Canaan (post-classical Latin Canaan, Chanaan (Vetus Latina, Vulgate), Greek Χαναάν, Hebrew Kĕnāʿan), the biblical name for the area of ancient Palestine west of the River Jordan, the Promised Land of the Israelites, who conquered and occupied it during the latter part of the 2nd millennium B.C.
Notes
The origin of the place name is uncertain and disputed. It is first securely attested in an Akkadian Mari letter (c1800 B.C.) in the form luKi-na-aḫ-nùmeš ‘Canaanites’, and subsequently e.g. in the Amarna letters (14th cent. B.C.), a collection of cuneiform correspondence from ancient Egypt
 
5:20 PM
Can'uhn
Because the Arabic is pronounced like that
 
> The general pattern of stress placement in Arabic is that the last heavy syllable is typically stressed. Here heavy is a term grouping syllables which are closed and open syllables which contain a long vowel.
> Canaan (/ˈkeɪnən/; Phoenician: 𐤊𐤍𐤏𐤍 – KNʿN;[1] Hebrew: כְּנַעַן – Kənáʿan, in pausa כְּנָעַן‎ – Kənāʿan; Biblical Greek: Χανααν – Khanaan;[2] Arabic: كَنْعَانُ – Kan‘ān) was a Semitic-speaking civilization and region of the Southern Levant in the Ancient Near East during the late 2nd millennium BC.
 
English has real problems with doubled A, I, and U. Those tend to get mushed together into a single unstressed vowel.
 
Aaron. Baal.
continuum but vacuum
Hawaiʻi.
 
Continuum is the exception.
 
Plantar fasciitis.
 
5:30 PM
@tchrist Mostly pronounced hawahyee.
 
Maastricht.
 
@tchrist Which is often pronounced "fashitis" ...
 
@Robusto Because /faskɪˈʌɪtɪs/ is hard.
An unassimilated.
kinda
Paan masala.
Saturniid.
 
I just asked an online friend what is the 50th state of the union, and she answered "Huh-why" ...
 
Hang on… saturnid? One i? — Janus Bahs Jacquet Sep 5, 2015 at 21:27
@Robusto We cannot import loanwords that contain a glottal stop consonant without either losing it altogether or else converting it into something like /k/.
We have no phonemic bucket for it.
 
5:38 PM
Correct.
 
And people hate diæ̈reses in reëlect or coöperate or zoölogist.
Because they cannot type them.
We are reduced to a dumb typewriter.
 
I always used to ink those in when all we had were typewriters.
 
Yes.
I have no idea how to say Anschauung in English.
 
I always pronounce German like German. Fuck 'em if they don't like it.
Well, except when German is actually French.
 
@Robusto Élitiste!
 
5:43 PM
@tchrist Genau.
 
zuur-veldt
Is that a /v/ or an /f/? :)
Odd that skiïng hasn’t devolved into just plain sking.
We should have spelt it skiy and skiying.
Or maybe skey and skeying.
Our penchant for importing foreign words without respelling them is the root of all evil.
 
That's what puts the sting in spelling bees.
 
And death wasps.
Wo ist dein Stachel nun, o Tod?
 
And the rote in memorization.
 
That's how you bag 'em.
 
5:55 PM
@tchrist I think it's one instance of a long vowel: skeeng.
 
@Robusto Those are surpassingly rare in American English, but you may be right.
 
The influence of r controled vowels is axiomatic in pronunciation of letter-sounds in English.
 
@user85795 spello
@M.A.R. I bet he can no longer recall not being able to speak English.
I can kinda remember not being able to speak Spanish (well, or thinking I knew how). But I can't remember not being able to play piano.
 
A lot of the shapes of these graphs depend on how they've collected their data over the years.
 
@user85795 Difficult to quibble with four orders of magnitude, even if someone's Microsoft's bitch. :)
 
6:06 PM
:)
 
> 2 N Boulder: 9.4" of snow
1 N Boulder: 14.7" of snow
3 NW Boulder: 15.5" of snow
3 S Boulder: 30" of snow
People who live in pacified climes never understand why in the West snowfall totals can vary so wildly even within the same town.
Maybe even those living in atlantal climes.
Looks like Black Hawk surpassed five feet.
> Snowpack levels in Colorado improved in most river basins after last week’s snowstorm that dumped more than 60 inches of snow in some places. Statewide, the snowpack was at 108% of median levels compared to the 1991-2020 period on Saturday. That’s 15.1 inches of snow-water equivalent.
We desperately needed that. We were under.
Nederland saw 53 inches of new snow.
I wonder if Cerb's ice skates still work. :)
 
6:21 PM
@tchrist Only if he's familiar with Mary Mapes Dodge.
 
6:33 PM
@tchrist I remembered being irritated that extol was not extoll. Except that extoll was also true. This was in fourth or fifth grade. I got over it.
 
@Robusto Like how we have both installments and instalments, but only installations.
 
Yes.
 
And Hansel a Gosling-boy.
 
@tchrist Gans richtig. ;-)
yesterday, by Robusto
@jlliagre It's rough to make jokes (and puzzles) and bon mots in another language. Example: Q: What do you call a Scottish milliner in Germany? A: A Hut Mann! (I rest my case.)
 
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> For not only do the educated of that land all speak and write at least three languages well, they are also sufficiently familiar with several others to read these with no trouble worth mentioning.
Meanwhile, the majority of Americans cannot read English at even a sixth-grade level. Sigh.
@CowperKettle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
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@CowperKettle Excellent! Now I feel the urge to do something more with Python than the pedestrian exercises I've done with it thus far.
 
8:52 PM
There is no term in Russian for Hunter's moon.
 
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@CowperKettle I suspect your native tongue will survive without that.
 
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@CowperKettle "Okhotnich'ya luna" ;-)
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> "Our mutable tongue is like the sea,
Curled wave and shattering thunder-fit;
Dangle in strings of sand shall he
Who smoothes the ripples out of it."
 
@Robusto even if no one says anything, -someone- will appreciate it.
 
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> 1906 – John W. Pace of Alabama, the "father" of peonage; pardoned by his friend President Theodore Roosevelt.[8]
> 1922 – Convicted in 1921 for hopping a freight train in Florida without a ticket, Martin Tabert of North Dakota becomes part of Florida State Convict leasing. He died Feb 1, 1922[16] after being whipped for being unable to work due to illness. Reports of his death led to the prohibition in 1923 of convict leasing in Florida.
> The whip used on Tabert was of a type known as a "Black Aunty", a leather whip measuring 5.5 feet (1.7 m) in length and weighing 7.5 pounds (3.4 kg).[11][12][6] Marjory Stoneman Douglas wrote a poem about the killing.[13]
Curious.
> The system was highly lucrative for both the lessees and state governments.[2] For example, in 1898, 73% of Alabama's annual state revenue came from convict leasing.[3]
So, basically a kind of Gulag
Milder due to free media and court system being functional
 
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> Sign in Martinican Creole:
Dlo Koko ("coconut water", from French de l'eau de coco)
Soley ("Sun", from soleil)
Lanmè ("the sea", from la mer)
Quite cool.
> Please – Souplé (shortened version of "Si ou plé / Si'w plé") pronounced [suple].
> In Creole, there are five definite articles (la, lan, a, an, nan) which are placed after the nouns they modify, in contrast to French. The final syllable of the preceding word determines which is used with which nouns.
 
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@CowperKettle Chyen paka fè chat.
 
Google Translate understands it, surprisingly
 

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