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jlliagre
jlliagre
00:13
Happy New 🐉 Year!
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
00:56
@jlliagre The same to you!
@DannyuNDos It's лупа in Russian too
jlliagre
jlliagre
@CowperKettle Likely from the French loupe.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
> From Middle French, from Old French loupe (“sapphire lens, imperfect gem, mass of hot metal”), from Frankish *luppa (“something pendulous”), from Proto-Germanic *lubbǭ (“that which hangs or dangles”), *lub- (“to peel, hang”), from Proto-Indo-European *lep- (“to peel, skin”). Cognate with Dutch dialectal (Meuse-Rhenish) luppe (“piece”); Middle Dutch and Middle Low German lobbe (“dangling part”);
> Saterland Frisian lobbe (“hanging lump of flesh”); Old English loppe, lobbe (“spider”); Dutch lob (“hanging lip, ruffle or sleeve”). More at lobe.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
01:13
ALS and Frontotemporal Dementia Linked to Mutation Causing Inflammation
I'm in the Star Chamber again.
Robusto
Robusto
I think I got them all. Let me know if any were important and I'll reinstate them.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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@Robusto Спасибки!
Robusto
Robusto
@CowperKettle Someone just wants to be a little vandal. Like they're eight years old.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
01:30
They want to rock it like it's 455 AD.
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
02:31
A Russian Orthodox priest was criticizing metal rock music on TV, and some wits made a rock composition of this, of course
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A black guy sings a famous song from the Perestroika times by Yegor Letov
Yegor Letov
Igor Fedorovich "Egor" Letov (Russian: И́горь Фёдорович "Его́р" Ле́тов, IPA: [ˈiɡərʲ ˈfʲɵdərəvʲɪtɕ jɪˈɡor ˈlʲetəf]; (10 September 1964 – 19 February 2008) was a Russian poet, musician, singer-songwriter, audio engineer and conceptual artist, best known as the founder and leader of the post-punk/psychedelic rock band Grazhdanskaya Oborona (Russian: Гражданская Оборона, lit. 'Civil Defense'). He was also the founder of the conceptual art avant-garde project Kommunizm and psychedelic rock outfit Egor i Opizdenevshie. Letov collaborated with singer-songwriter Yanka Dyagileva and other Siberian ...
> Letov was a polarizing figure in the Soviet Union. He was controversial in the mid-to-late 1980s when he satirized the Soviet system and developed a gritty Siberian punk sound. After the fall of the Soviet Union, during the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis, Letov developed a fan base among nationalists and communists due to his strong opposition of Yeltsin's government. Letov was one of the founders and the first member of the National Bolshevik Party.[4]
> He ceased contact with the party around 1999 and distanced himself from politics.
He founded the Russian Nazi Party
> In his 2007 interview with Rolling Stone Russia, Letov stated: "In fact, I have always been an anarchist—and I still am. But now I'm more into ecological aspects of contemporary anarchism, eco-anarchism, that's what I've been moving toward recently".
> Letov died of heart failure in his sleep on 19 February 2008 at his home in Omsk.[6][7] He was 43 years old.
> In the late 1980s, Letov was close with Yanka Dyagileva, though it's not clear whether they were partners or not.
Yanka Dyagileva was a famous late 1980s rock singer. She committed suicide.
Yanka Dyagileva
Yana Stanislavovna "Yanka" Dyagileva (Russian: Яна Станиславовна Дягилева; 4 September 1966 – c. 9 May 1991) was a Russian poet and singer-songwriter and one of the most popular figures of her time in Russia's underground punk scene. She both played solo and performed with others, including Yegor Letov and bands Grazhdanskaya Oborona and Velikiye Oktyabri ("Great Octobers"). Dyagileva was greatly influenced by Letov and Alexander Bashlachev, who were her friends. Her songs explored themes of desperation and depression, punk-style nihilism, and folk-like lamentations. Her death in 1991 has been...
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A song by Yanka Dyagileva which I love.
 
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alphabet
alphabet
04:00
Raccoon Landlord Dispute
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MetaEd
MetaEd
04:44
goo.gl/maps/qWGkoawxLe96GMtK9
some of the wild horses on a barrier island off North Carolina
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
06:16
> In the lab, we observed that food deprivation and social isolation led to similar changes in energetic arousal and fatigue, a striking finding given that food deprivation involves a direct deprivation of energy in terms of calories, whereas social isolation does not. journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/09567976231156413
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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jlliagre
jlliagre
08:43
@CowperKettle Hébécrevon sounds like Et bé, crevons ! (Et bien, crevons !) that means: Well, let's die! The verb crever (puncture, have a flat tire) means to die in slang. No need to translate Cimetière I presume.
> Le toponyme Hébécrevon signifie littéralement le chevron d'Herbertus ou le chevron d'Hébert. Ce chevron (un quevron ou crevon, en langue normande) était une poutre faisant fonction de petit pont de bois permettant de franchir un petit affluent de la Vire. Il est précédé du nom de baptême germanique Herbert, extrêmement fréquent en Normandie, plus communément sous la forme Hébert (qui a survécu comme nom de famille normand) par amuissement du /r/ devant consonne, phénomène fréquent dans cette province (cf. Bernard > Bénard). On retrouve Hébert dans une pléthore de toponymes normands : Hébe…
Hébécrevon
Hébécrevon est une ancienne commune française du département de la Manche et de la région Normandie, devenue le 1er janvier 2016 une commune déléguée au sein de la commune nouvelle de Thèreval. Elle est peuplée de 1 136 habitants. == Géographie == La commune est composée d'une quarantaine de hameaux : Hébécrevon (bourg principal), la Jugannière, Bellevue, la Fontaine des Bains, la Rairie, l'Hôtel Caruel, la Nouillerie, le Rouloux Godard, la Varinière, la Cauvinière, le Mesnil Guillaume, Survire, Rajon, la Crevonnière, la Planquette, la Vacellerie, la Lande, le Couvert, la Croix de Pirou, ...
So it's Herbert's rafter (bridge).
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Not popular anymore.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:25
@jlliagre Ah! I saw it in a Facebook group of Russian translators
:)
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:49
> SyntaxUnexpected end of JSON input
While trying to register on Weather Underground
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
12:59
Medical instrument of the day: trocar - from French trocart, trois-quarts (three-fourths), from trois 'three' and carre 'side, face of an instrument',[4][5] first recorded in the Dictionnaire des Arts et des Sciences, 1694,[6] by Thomas Corneille, younger brother of Pierre Corneille.
> The word trocar, less commonly trochar,[3] comes from French trocart or trocar, itself either from trois-quarts 'three fourths' or from trois carres 'three sides';[4][5][6] in any case referring to the instrument's triangular point. First recorded in the Dictionnaire des Arts et des Sciences, 1694,[7] by Thomas Corneille, younger brother of Pierre Corneille.
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
14:13
> We recorded ultrasonic sounds emitted by tomato and tobacco plants inside an acoustic chamber, and in a greenhouse, while monitoring the plant’s physiological parameters. We developed machine learning models that succeeded in identifying the condition of the plants, including dehydration level and injury, based solely on the emitted sounds. These informative sounds may also be detectable by other organisms.
Robusto
Robusto
14:32
Wordle 966 4/6

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Robusto
Robusto
14:53
Daily Octordle #747
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That was a surprise.
Mitch
Mitch
@MetaEd I went to summer camp near there
 
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jlliagre
jlliagre
16:06
Wordle 966 4/6

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Robusto
Robusto
16:33
The Simpsons - Homer invents Tomacco
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alphabet
alphabet
Resumptive pronoun of the day, again from YouTube:
> Deputy Ayers [was] looking for any possible avenue to find these guys, who, by the way, he had been in high school with some of them.
Robusto
Robusto
> That doesn't mean we want to talk about YouTube comments or hemorrhoids or other such topics.
alphabet
alphabet
This was from a video, so on-topic
Robusto
Robusto
@alphabet Well, was it someone talking, or someone writing?
alphabet
alphabet
@Robusto Talking. This construction is, I claim, very common in speech; linguists have classified it as "rare" because they're mostly using written corpora.
Robusto
Robusto
16:39
Yes. I hear people talking that way all the time. They begin a sentence, then take a turn, then remember something else they think is appropriate to include, and so on.
alphabet
alphabet
It's a more specific issue
What's important with this construction is that the relative clause is missing a gap, because leaving a gap there "...who, by the, way, he had been in high school with some of" sounds very bad
So the gap gets filled in with an extra pronoun
user 85795
user 85795
> or those easily triggered by English (or other languages) in the raw
raw = spoken
alphabet
alphabet
You would expect "some of whom, by the way, he had been in high school with," even in informal speech. But, if, when speaking, you start the relative clause with "who," you can't go back and change it to "some of whom," and you can't felicitously end the relative clause with "some of," so you end up adding an extra pronoun, causing the relative clause to become syntactically invalid
Robusto
Robusto
@alphabet But so what? People speak without thinking things through beforehand. This results in omissions of syntax, backtracking, etc.
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user 85795
and bad grammar
Robusto
Robusto
16:56
That too.
Vikas
Vikas
17:32
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I made it during the pandemic. I guess it's still relevant.
Mitch
Mitch
17:44
@Robusto 👀
@Robusto my eyes hurt looking sideways back and forth
@alphabet I would never expect 'whom' or in any instance whatsoever
Whim is a dead as whomever.last spoke it
@Robusto is that inclusive or exclusive 'or'?
You know what's the worst thing in the world?
Grocery shopping before lunch.
Not global warming or microplastics or failing democracy
But shopping for food while hungry
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch No XOR here.
alphabet
alphabet
18:42
@Robusto Yes, this is just a special case. But it reveals some interesting things about dependency constructions, island constraints, and the upward percolation of relative phrases; for this reason this specific construction has been the object of a great deal of linguistic research.
I'm not kidding; there's been a great deal of research and writing about this topic, particularly regarding what it tells us about the nature of the "gaps" that appear in relative clauses.
Mitch
Mitch
@alphabet no I don't believe you I think you are kidding
I mean it'd be kind of a weird thing to kid about but I mean
Robusto
Robusto
18:58
@alphabet Yeah, but this is why I only took two linguistics courses in college. It seems to treat language study as if it were a painful duty to study. I'm more of a birdwatcher than an ornithologist, if you'll forgive the metaphor.
jlliagre
jlliagre
19:27
Daily Octordle #747
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Lambie
Lambie
20:13
I think that to spontaneously say [...] "some of whom, by the way, were boys he had been in HS with". one needs a pretty heavy dose of book larnin'. It's the kind of "complex construction" that gets sloppier and sloppier the farther down the socio-economic ladder you are. But that don't make it bad or anythin'.
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch NYTSB doesn't accept charivari. Not the kind of erudition one would expect from the Grey Lady.
alphabet
alphabet
@Lambie Yeah, I might concede that. But I think that the version with a proper gap instead of the pronoun sounds awful, if not outright ungrammatical: "Deputy Ayers [was] looking for any possible avenue to find these guys, who, by the way, he had been in high school with some of."
While "preposition stranding" is acceptable in all but the most formal registers, there are a few exceptions; partitive of, in particular, tends to resist stranding.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
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alphabet
alphabet
20:28
So in those cases you either move the preposition to the front ("of whom" or "some of whom"), as in formal style, or you choose some entirely different construction.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
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Lambie
Lambie
20:52
@alphabet Yes, it'ungrammatical by any standard but could have been expressed as: Deputy Ayers [was] looking for any possible avenue to find some of these guys, who, by the way, he had been in high school with. The thing is that the brain and mouth have a complicated relationship in connected speech. Sometimes, your mouth gets ahead of what the brain is telling you,
but the mispokenness is already out the barn door and you either have to back down and do another sentence (reroute) OR hobble along the path that has broken down and try to make yourself understood. This can get really nitpicky in legal interpreting since you interpret what the speaker says warts and all, then the lawyers look at you, like you are making a mistake...except for the experienced ones. They get it.
MetaEd
MetaEd
21:32
Wordle 966 4/6

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user 85795
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My Chat with Physician & Physicist Dr. Manfred Steiner-Obtained 2nd PhD at 89 (THE SAAD TRUTH_1448)
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user 85795
user 85795
22:09
LoL "trump as a tragic hero"
Only to his fans.
user 85795
user 85795
22:22
He could be termed an anti-Mandela going from prison to president without the 27 years in between.
Dannyu NDos
Dannyu NDos
Can something be "very" ambivalent? Example sentence: "Having gathered such votes gotta give a very ambivalent feeling."
Robusto
Robusto
22:46
@DannyuNDos Sure. Ambivalence is not an absolute.

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