English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Dannyu NDos

00:09

Is there some kind of English "number song"?

Koreans usually think of this video when told about a number song:

【엔토이】 숫자송

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alphabet

You mean like the alphabet song, but for remembering numbers?

Dannyu NDos

Not necessarily for remembering them, but merely themed on them.

I tried making an English adaptation of this song, and this was the result:

[SynthV Mai] [English Adaptation] ENTOI – The Number Song (숫자송 영어 번안)

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alphabet

I haven't heard of one, no.

Dannyu NDos

Though, here's the question... Did I rhyme them correctly?: One - begun, Two - too, Three - free, Four - for, Five - dive, Six - mix, Seven - heaven, Eight - overrate, Nine - vine, Ten - when.

Cerberus

00:24

I think so, maybe one/begun is a little bit off.

Dannyu NDos

Thx!

tchrist

00:40

@DannyuNDos Homophones are not normally counted as rhymes because they're the same word aurally.

So one/won, two/too, four/for can't really be said to count as rhymes.

They are but not in an interesting way.

Laurel

01:48

@Cerberus Really? They rhyme to me

tchrist

Me too.

@Robusto Look here!

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Q: What does “grosser”mean in the sentence, “Using toilet paper is grosser than you think.”

I found the following headline in the article of today’s Washington Post (October 20,2023) - “Using toilet paper is grosser than you think. - Here is a better idea.” I wonder what “gross” does mean here.

meaning

It's our favorite ELU nonagenarian, Yoichi Oishi.

Laurel

Wow, that's great

He's been gone so long I was worried something bad happened

Cerberus

02:07

Cool.

@Laurel Hmm.

Maybe the w is misleading mine ears?

tchrist

@Cerberus Do you find that queen rhymes with between but not with obscene?

And does cute rhyme with impute but not with galoot?

Cerberus

Honestly, I had to look up galoot!

tchrist

Ya big ...!

Cerberus

I would say all of those rhyme for me.

Maybe it is because begun can be pronounced differently by different people?

And in different accents?

tchrist

I can't imagine.

You'd have to find somebody who doesn't have the cut–put split.

Far north.

> Words such as strut, cut, blood, lunch usually take [ʊ], although [ə] is a middle-class so-called "fudged" variant.

Yorkshire.

The foot–strut split.

Does this really need pictures?

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A: Are there examples of mutual loanwords in French and in English?

Corresponding loanwords in two languages are difficult to find. One example of adjacent loanwords is the following: English: maillot French: le pull[-over], le bikini So the English maillot can refer to a few garments, as Merriam-Webster indicates. Two of the garments are a swimsuit (usually a on...

alphabet

02:33

@Cerberus Monosyllabic words are pronounced more slowly; you may be getting confused by the fact that the vowel in "one" is likely longer than the one in "begun."

There may also be some sort of odd assimilation going on where the /w/ creates some rounding of the start of the following vowel.

Cerberus

@alphabet Maybe!

@alphabet And/or that!

alphabet

Does one rhyme with gun?

Cerberus

I suppse gun and begun are really the same in all regards.

tchrist

Dutch hut is [ɦɵt].

Cerberus

@tchrist One might imagine someone in Britain pronouncing one as /wɒn/?

tchrist

02:38

With a bit of rounding.

@Cerberus wawn like dawn?

Cerberus

And begun as /bɪgən/?

@tchrist Short!

I don't know.

I haven't thought about it.

tchrist

b'gun

wrung

What does a Dutch owl say?

Cerberus

Oehoe.

Oe = /u/.

tchrist

Oh I was thinking it became something fancier.

Afrikaans has hoe-hoe.

alphabet

If I record myself saying what and gut and slow it down twenty times, there is a definite difference in vowel quality

Dannyu NDos

02:45

Which would [ʌ] sound like to English speakers, /ə/ or /ɑ/?

alphabet

@DannyuNDos British or American English? In BrE it would sound like the "strut" phoneme /ʌ/.

tchrist

@alphabet ʍət

Dannyu NDos

I thought /ʌ/ is actually [əː]?

Cerberus

@tchrist Also funny.

tchrist

Maybe your ʍ wraps its arms around your vowel.

Twists it into a hoot.

alphabet

02:51

A (very low quality) spectrogram of what followed by gut.

Cerberus

I don't actually know ʍ...

alphabet

There's clearly some sort of weird diphthong thing happening in what.

Dannyu NDos

Well, W is a semivowel.

tchrist

ʍɵt

@Cerberus It’s /hw/.

Cerberus

Oh, OK.

alphabet

02:55

If I listen to the part after the /w/ slowed down a lot, it sounds like an /o/ or an /ɔ/, and even by the end of the word what it doesn't have quite the same quality as the vowel in gut.

tchrist

You can't compare things next to velars. Those always mutate their environs.

alphabet

@DannyuNDos As I recall, BrE /ʌ/ (the "strut" vowel) is usually [ʌ] or [ɐ]. [əː] is the vowel in "nurse" in non-rhotic BrE.

tchrist

gook and foot.

Dannyu NDos

Oh

alphabet

@tchrist One would think that /g/, being also a velar, would have an effect similar to that of /w/.

tchrist

02:58

One changes where your tongue is. That's different from a labial effect.

alphabet

So do you think it's the labialization after /w/ making the following vowel sound further back?

tchrist

I don't find my vowels in one ton gun differ meaningfully.

Dannyu NDos

Nevermind. I was confused because, in my native language (Korean), the standard insists /ʌː/ to assimilate to [ɘː]. I doubt anyone actually does that, and I just mash /ʌ/ and /ʌː/ into [ə].

tchrist

@DannyuNDos Completely reasonably.

Dannyu NDos

That said, I also doubt that Korean /a/ is [ɐ]. It's more likely to be [ä].

alphabet

03:03

@tchrist To me there's a pretty clear difference between what and gut, at least; is that not universal?

tchrist

Yes, it is not.

alphabet

I tried doing the same analysis with the word shut, since the /ʃ/ is also labialized (at least for me), but it has the same vowel quality as gut.

(I'm using what/gut instead of one/gun so I don't get further confused by the effects of nasalization. I also tried rut but interpreting spectrograms of /ɹ/ makes my brain hurt.)

I refuse to believe that I am alone in this; the contrast in the spectrograms is sharp enough that I'm clearly not imagining things.

Dannyu NDos

What about dart/dirt?

Pretty sure that's [dɑːt] and [dəːt]? I think that's a minimal pair you're looking for.

alphabet

03:22

@tchrist Isn't there something where /w/ is effectively just a very short close back vowel? That would explain the odd diphthong thing in what.

@tchrist I'm sure I'm not the only person with this odd effect in the vowel of what.

CowperKettle

04:04

@tchrist Wow

As for toilet paper, I know that even in Russia some muslims use water bottles, if they don't have a bidet. But I did not found any thorough description on how exactly to use a water bottle for wiping.

Maybe there are some specialized hand dousers with spouts if you don't have a bidet, too. I should google up.

My sister said that after returning from India she felt dirty attending Russian toilets, since Russians use toilet paper instead of water.

Cerberus

04:23

One wonders, where does the dirty water go? It doesn't seem very attractive.

Xanne

04:52

Amazon offers a portable bidet, which seems to be a squeeze bottle, also called by some manufacturers a “Butt Shower.” I find that rather crude. It must still be necessary to pat one’s self dry.

Some of these are battery-powered, and some are USB-rechargeable.

Cerberus

I just can't imagine where the dirty water goes.

And what it will touch.

Xanne

@Cerberus The same place the pee goes.

Cerberus

I don't normally pee on the bottle and my hands...

Actually, never.

CowperKettle

They should come up with a femtosecond laser-based system for cleaning after toilet. You just press the button, and a high-precision scanner directs the beam.

Cerberus

Smart.

Cerberus

05:53

@Vikas The latest version of the mobile application of my bank suddenly required root to enable fingerprint login. So I went into the root manage, enabled Hide Root for the bank application, and now it works again.

Vikas

Good.

CowperKettle

06:19

Good. Although I don't understand what it means.

CowperKettle

06:36

I wonder what this 'sliding clasp' is called, and how to prevent it from sliding.

I'm jogging with this belt, putting my keys into it, and paying cards.

And it keeps getting looser.

There must be some way to pin the clasp down in one position, without sawing it down with some thread and needle.

Xanne

07:07

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Xanne

08:09

A little tricky. Not obvious how to get from line two to line four.

Vikas

@CowperKettle Isn't it the standard 'clasp' that we see we with many common things like school bags, backpacks, and even helmets?

M.A.R.

08:31

@alphabet you're really liking this modern art huh

CowperKettle

09:53

@Vikas Yes, the cheapest kind of buckle :)

CowperKettle

10:05

Japanese of the day: kotobagari -- (言葉狩り, "word hunting") is a sardonic term which refers to the reluctance to use words that are considered potentially offensive or politically incorrect in the Japanese language

CowperKettle

10:20

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Vikas

@CowperKettle Okay, so when my school bag clasp would malfunction, I used to just permanently "fix" it using thread and needle.

CowperKettle

@Vikas I've just used a rubber band, I'll see if it works :)

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CowperKettle

10:48

Лукашенко на французском языке (heygen)

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Belarusian President translated into French and voiced-over by an AI in French, but with his own tone of voice.

Vikas

@CowperKettle These are way too common here.

CowperKettle

I guess they are common everywhere

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Vikas

And they are commonly used to seal any liquid in a polethene bag. For example the pani puri water. Some people prefer to take pani puris at home instead of eating on street.

CowperKettle

We had the first snowfall today, but it instantly melted

Vikas

A guy preparing fresh pani puris lol

youtube.com/shorts/hi0cgbTrhHY

CowperKettle

10:55

@Vikas Nice! I hope he washed his feet

Vikas

There was a funny video titled something like "Indian tourism guide" which had all clips of unhygienic Indian street food preparation.

Vikas

11:13

I remember my teacher (head of the school) from childhood. She would often troll us by saying "I noticed you guys in market eating those pani puris where they don't even cut their nails for days and it has dirt in it and then you eat it and call it yummy!".

Vikas

12:38

> The reluctance to supply Taurus missiles, which have a range of up to 500 kilometers, stems from concerns that they could be used within Russia's territory. This has been a subject of extensive debate in Germany, especially given the missiles' capability to strike deep into Russian-occupied territories like Crimea.

So they don't want Ukraine to strike in Crimea with long range missiles? Or they mean actual Russian territory?

user 726941

Both.

Vikas

Wouldn't striking in Crimea every week put Russia into further weaker position?

That's a good way for negotiations.

user 726941

> Taurus missiles, which have a range of up to 500 kilometers

who knows where they will point them

what if the wagner group captures one?

Vikas

12:54

They also say "not needed yet".

jlliagre

@CowperKettle Ha ha ha, not bad. The only obvious mistake is how hareng is pronounced in eh bien mangez le hareng avec le poisson (4s), something like /a.ʁɛ̃ŋ/ vs the expected /a.ʁɑ̃/. The sentence makes little sense: eat herring with the fish?

CowperKettle

13:46

@jlliagre I've no idea what was the original text :)

Лукашенко - диетический ликбез

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Here's the original.

He says that it's not right to eat a lot of meat together with potatos before going to sleep.

It's better to eat a bit of fish.

One must not overeat.

Mitch

@Vikas Presumably in the US we would also have such conditions except that in every restaurant (or street vendor but those are much rarer here than India) there are notices tacked up on every unused wall surface to say 'Wash your hands' 'All employees must wash there hands after using the bathroom' 'Didn't you mother tell you to wash your hands?' 'Use soap when washing hands'

CowperKettle

He is known for his ramblings in which he presents himself in the role of a kind but nutty uncle. But people know who he is.

@Vikas Ewww

A good teacher. Children should abstain from dirty food.

Mitch

Also, there is a big 'inspection' regulation for food services. All food service must go under regular inspection for cleanliness and get rated. and if the rating is too low they need to close down and fix it before they can reopen.

Robusto

@tchrist I guess he must have died! Aww, too bad!

Mitch

Which all says to me, it -used- to be pretty dirty here in the US but government regulation was put in after too many ...um... incidents.

CowperKettle

13:59

@Vikas There has never been such a dangerous situation, with numerous countries trying to confront a major country equipped with nuclear missiles and dis-equipped with brains in the top tiers of government.

Hence all the vacillation.

Robusto

@CowperKettle Try unequipped.

CowperKettle

yep

Robusto

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Mitch

@CowperKettle It's 15C here today which feels like winter but if this were March it'd be tropical. No first snow likely til December.

MeltyButter

and they say climate change is a bad thing??

Robusto

14:04

@tchrist: Wait, I guess he's still around! Then why is his gravatar not showing and no linky-link on his name?

Mitch

An ideal would be a large biodome/conservatory where it's 75F (24C) during the day, 65F (17C) at night, neither humid nor dry, the sun is up at 6am, down at 9pm. Everyday.

And if you want a change for changes sake, go on a ski trip and/or tropical island.

I mean if we're wishing, both in the same week?

MeltyButter

24C? are you a masochist?

CowperKettle

> Study N=191 suggests that adhering to a Mediterranean diet may alleviate or prevent PTSD symptoms. In particular red and processed meats was positively associated with PTSD symptoms, while plant-based foods was negatively associated with PTSD symptoms brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/…

Red meats again.

Mitch

@MeltyButter Is that too hot or too cold for you?

CowperKettle

@Mitch Great weather

MeltyButter

14:09

24c is hotter than anything i've ever experienced

CowperKettle

I'd say that the ideal range is from +15C to +18C

Robusto

@MeltyButter Where is that too hot?

Mitch

@CowperKettle If I were allowed perfection, It's just slightly too cool for optimum for me.

MeltyButter

anywhere humid, 24c is way too much

Mitch

@MeltyButter Which part of Scotland are you from?

MeltyButter

14:11

lol. close. ireland

CowperKettle

Wow. The first time I come across someone from Ireland in the Internet.

MeltyButter

yeah we didn't get internet here until 2019

we're still learning

CowperKettle

:)

Robusto

@MeltyButter An Irishman from Galway told me Ireland is suffering from climate change too. "Last week, it only rained twice," he said, "Once fer tree days and once fer four!"

Mitch

May 16, 2013 at 22:04, by Mitch

@Cerberus I know this is perverse, but I like it to be sunny, and then I sit in the shade because, you know, it's so sunny.

CowperKettle

14:13

LOL

Mitch

@CowperKettle So exotic.

Like the Philippines but...

...not so equatorial

Where ginger isn't just a spice.

Ohh I know an Irish joke.

Insults every body equally.

MeltyButter

go for it

Mitch

And can be repurposed to insult everybody else equally.

So a guy walks into a pub.

Is that right?

Would you say 'guy'?

this is ELU afterall.

I gotta get it right.

I mean somebody will complain anyway

OK I'll say it in American and then have chat GPT translate to the foreign language.

So a guy walks into a bar.

He asks the bartender "Do you serve Catholics here?"

In the other version you say "Do you serve Protestants here?"

Let me start over.

Again

A man walks into a bar with an alligator on a leash.

Let me start over again again.

Somewhere in Northern Ireland, a man walks into a bar...

That sets the stage better.

MeltyButter

...

Mitch

It doesn't matter if he's a redhead or not, I think it will work however he comes his hari.

M.A.R.

14:23

A bar walks into a guy

Mitch

@M.A.R. Oh that's a good one.

a good start to a good one.

I forgot how it ends.

So a guy walks into a bar in Northern Ireland with an alligator trailing behind him on a leash.

M.A.R.

@Mitch right? Why should it always be the guy that makes the first move?

Mitch

And in a thick Northern Irish brogue he says...

All Irishmen have brogues whether they walk in them or they speak them. Or more likely as not tennis shoes, or sneakers.

M.A.R.

@user726941 civilians.

Mitch

Hmm... I'm showing both my age and my location of birth by that. I'll have to go back to spy school.

CowperKettle

14:27

> “I think I’m having a stroke” said Yoda

MeltyButter

mitch is the joke over yet

Mitch

@M.A.R. That would be funny except that it's probably true.

@MeltyButter What?

MeltyButter

nvm

Mitch

So in his thick Northern Irish brogue, he says...

"Do you serve alligators here?"

M.A.R.

@Mitch no need. I am already aware of your perverse western attempts at deviating me from the path of God. All Americans are CIA unless proven otherwise.

Maybe NSA, the weirder ones.

Mitch

14:30

The bartender (or publican or bar owner or barmaid or mixologist or 'the other guy') looks him straight in the eye and, in his own thick Northern Irish accent, says:

M.A.R.

holds breath

Vikas

@Mitch We also need that here.

Mitch

@M.A.R. That reminds me of a joke about walking along the beach with Jesus.

Vikas

@Mitch And also this.

Mitch

I was really taken aback the other day when I heard that there is very little corroborating evidence (outside of Christian scripture) that Jesus was an historical figure.

M.A.R.

14:34

@Mitch the OG Jesus, American Jesus, or mass-produced Jesus action figures?

@Mitch Isn't that kinda true about most historical-ish figures that are that old?

MeltyButter

all we know is that he was crucified

everything else is hearsay

Mitch

@M.A.R. The Essene Palestinian mystic Jesus purported to have been alive 4BC to 29AD

@M.A.R. I think you're thinking of the Velvet Jesus hiding an ace while playing cards with dogs.

M.A.R.

Who came up with crucifixion anyway. I hate that guy's face. I don't want to execute him, instead just nail his hands and feet to a wooden post.

Mitch

@M.A.R. I'm pretty sure Mohammed and Buddha existed (there are corroborating historical records of them by 'non-adherents'.

M.A.R.

@Mitch sounds like a long time ago

Mitch

14:38

@M.A.R. It was

Yes

I mean "Yes"

I mean, the bartender responded "Yes"

M.A.R.

One slow bartender

Mitch

Or more narratively, the bartender respnded "Yes, we do serve Catholics here"

@M.A.R. Or internet connection.

You didn't think of that did you?

M.A.R.

@Mitch Oh it was during the pandemic

Mitch

Or as I blame a lot recently, my laptop's keyboard cache thrashing on Chrome's javascript interpreter.

M.A.R.

The bartender couldn't do anything about the gator, only mute the guy's mic

Mitch

14:41

The bartender, without batting a meretricious eyelash, replied 'Yes'.

M.A.R.

@Mitch those are interesting words.

Mitch

So the man says, "Great, then I'll have a pint, and bring a Catholic for my alligator here"

M.A.R.

The joke was funny right up until "meretricious".

Mitch

@M.A.R. I have more.

@M.A.R. Just wait a bit... it's soon to be a 'word of the day'

Maybe I should trim the guy's eyelashes then?

M.A.R.

@Cowp has to read it in an article about folate metabolism first

Mitch

14:43

@M.A.R. Too accurate.

'Saying it like it is' of the day

'Saying it out loud' of the day

'Saying it outloud for the people in back' of the day

So anyway, that joke is totally racist

M.A.R.

I meant it for Jesus

@Mitch It implies Irish people like dangerous pets

Mitch

But you can switch in 'Protestant' for 'Catholic' and if you get the right crowd, it'll also be just as racist.

M.A.R.

Or maybe Catholics?

Mitch

@M.A.R. Exotic ones too

Just like the Philippines

MeltyButter

well i was very very offended

i've already contacted the CIA

Mitch

14:48

@MeltyButter Nice.

stands back from windows

runs to panic room

runs to panic room while windows smash in

CowperKettle

> From Latin meretrīcius, from meretrīx (“harlot, prostitute”), from mereō (“earn, deserve, merit”) (English merit) + -trīx (“(female agent)”) (English -trix).

Interesting.

Mitch

runs to panic room while windows smash in with commandos in gas masks and tear gas and flash bangs and wood splinters flying everywhere from machine gun fire and the puppy cowering in the corner and eggs burning in hot oil on the stove and soldiers falling over the stairway bannister and smashing a glass coffee table

Don't worry the burning oil will come into play -very- soon.

Robusto

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CowperKettle

I've incarnadined the starred list with 'meretricious', but I doubt I'll use it in actual writing or speech

Mitch

@CowperKettle Yeah you see the bartender is in a Protestant part of Belfast and tensions are high with the catholics and fro street to street everyone knows where you should be and where you should not, and the guy with the alligator is kind of out of place like that.

But the bartender has to make a living and will do anything for a dollar, so he reluctantly wants to serve the guest however unwanted he might be there.

CowperKettle

14:54

The guy with the alligator is just roaming around like a blindwormlike desultory moggy

Mitch

@CowperKettle It's a good word to sneak into conversation.

Robusto

@CowperKettle Anywhere you would use meretricious it's probably better to use trashy.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle use it to sound smart when insulting someone

Mitch

@CowperKettle Yes.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle ah those were the good days

stares wistfully into the horizon with walker

Mitch

14:55

looks up moggy

M.A.R.

It's just like the movie "Up"

Mitch

to be honest I'm not going to look up moggy

_I'm just going to use it like everybody else understands it-

and then if they call me on it, respond

Oh please.

Robusto

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M.A.R.

PUH LEEZ

@Mitch making a Karl Urban face all the while

Mitch

@M.A.R. Not that I'm holding you to it, but for accuracies sake, there was abslutely no water in the movie 'Up'

except for the waterfall?

And that was going down.

Robusto

14:57

@M.A.R. That's usually rendered as "Oh, puh-LEEZ!"

Or "puhLEEZ" ...

Gotta accent the right sylLAble

Mitch

@M.A.R. Is that Faramir or is it the country singer/Tom Cruise's former wife's arm candy?

M.A.R.

@Mitch such artistic liberties are necessary to keep a movie entertaining. In Avengers: Endgame, it wasn't actually an endgame

Mitch

@M.A.R. Touché

Robusto

@Mitch It's Aragorn's birthday today. Viggo is 65 now. No longer Strider, he's now Rider.

M.A.R.

@Mitch it's the guy who's in Doom and Star Trek. I'm starting to sense a connection here

Mitch

15:01

@M.A.R. Which Star Trek guy? They put so much make up on those aliens it's hard to recognize them.

M.A.R.

The medic

I think?

Mitch

Ohhhh... yeah

no makeup at all

threw me

M.A.R.

Judge Dredd.

The newer one, not Stallone's

The Russian assassin who killed Jason Bourne's wife

Impressive body count

Mitch

He was also... cripes... in some other scifi thing... aliens? who aren't evil and intersperse in the population? sort of a weird metaphor for racism? and it's a buddy cop TV show? and Karl Urban is the human and ... some other guy is the alien... but they work together to overcome crime... perpetrated by both humans -and- aliens... but they do it together?

@M.A.R. Oh yeah that too, very unrecognizable... few full face shots... always in the background... tunnel car chase scene in Moscow later in that movie.

I feel like Franke Potente wanted out of the franchise?

I wonder if she would still be renting scooters on a Greek island.

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Q: Is there an American English equivalent for the British "moggie" for a non-purebred cat?

I'm an American (and fond of cats). I'm familiar with the British term "moggie" for a non-purebred cat--basically the equivalent of "mutt" for a dog. I've never heard any American English equivalent of "moggie." Is there one? (If there isn't, I'll use "moggie," because we have a need for it.)

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Now I know.

'Cat -Not Otherwise Specified'

alphabet

15:19

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Q: Halved, quartered...what's next?

I was going to quarter my daughter's grapes but decided to cut them into six pieces instead. Did I sixth her grapes? I looked all over the net and couldn't find the answer. What's the proper word? Is there a word for that?

single-word-requests verbs

My real question is: how and why would anyone cut grapes into sixths? That must require patience and a very steady hand. Do you halve it, then slice into each half at an angle? That seems hard given the small size. Is your daughter somehow too young to swallow quarter-grapes, but old enough to swallow sixths of them?

Robusto

15:44

Daily Octordle #634
5️⃣4️⃣
9️⃣8️⃣
7️⃣🔟
6️⃣🕚
Score: 60

MetaEd

17:02

Wordle 853 4/6

⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

good morning, me beauties

M.A.R.

17:46

Music is halal if it's from an antisemitic former Pink Floyd founder

Wait. At least I think he's antisemitic. Maybe antagonistic. I dunno what he really has said.

. . . Yeah he's probably an antisemite

@MetaEd good morning, universal morning tea time

21:19 here

MetaEd

@M.A.R. - it's 1750 on my server

M.A.R.

@alphabet tacrolimus gives my hand a visible tremor and I've been pretty conscious about not having a steady hand

Even more than weight or height or whatever

MetaEd

@M.A.R. - you live in one of those funky :30 zones?

M.A.R.

@MetaEd there's only one funky :30 zone AFAICT

The rest are 15 or 45 minutes ahead

MetaEd

@M.A.R. IST and ACST, if I can trust Wikipedia

M.A.R.

17:54

Bless you

MetaEd

also the Marquesas Islands, some Newfies, Iran, Myanmar

M.A.R.

But I live in Tabriz

MetaEd

so it's more common than I thought

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M.A.R.

I misremember then. I know NK wanted to be different so they're set at 45 mins ahead. That was literally the reason they officially gave

MetaEd

@M.A.R. - I think that's a great reason. "F**k y'all, we're different"

@M.A.R. so what's NK

M.A.R.

17:58

North Korea

Sounds like I misremember that too. Or they changed back to 30 mins

Maybe I dreamed all of this

Am I dreaming right now?

MetaEd

@M.A.R. All I can say is don't wake the sleeping king

HippoSawrUs

18:34

Fun fact: The real name of Dick Sargent, the 2nd Darrin of Bewitched, is Richard Cox. Sometimes you can't win for losing.

Robusto

@HippoSawrUs Tell it to Hugh Jass.

HippoSawrUs

Hee hee hee

The number at our bar was actually 867-5309.

Robusto

Was your bar named Jenny's Joint?

MetaEd

20:15

@Robusto Tell it to Peter O'Toole.

CowperKettle

20:38

> "Mercenary who beat his own grandfather to death gives patriotism talk to Russian schoolchildren" novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/10/20/…

> In 2010, Raspravin was sentenced to six years in a high-security prison for beating his own grandfather to death, independent media outlet Mediazona reported, and in 2017 he was sentenced to another 11 years behind bars for beating an acquaintance and ultimately causing his death.

CowperKettle

20:50

MetaEd

@CowperKettle √−1 2³ Σ π

CowperKettle

O_O

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