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The world's largest communication satellite, the size of a bus, and weighing 9 tonnes, was launched recently.
@Mitch "Others shall beat out the breathing bronze to softer lines, I believe it well; shall draw living lineaments from the marble; the cause shall be more eloquent on their lips; their pencil shall portray the pathways of heaven, and tell the stars in their arising: be thy charge, O Roman, to rule the nations in thine empire; this shall be thine art, to lay down the law of peace, to be merciful to the conquered and beat the haughty down.'" (Aeneid)
The Aeneid ( ih-NEE-id; Latin: Aenē̆is [ae̯ˈneːɪs] or [ˈae̯neɪs]) is a Latin epic poem that tells the legendary story of Aeneas, a Trojan who fled the fall of Troy and travelled to Italy, where he became the ancestor of the Romans. Written by the Roman poet Virgil between 29 and 19 BC, the Aeneid comprises 9,896 lines in dactylic hexameter. The first six of the poem's twelve books tell the story of Aeneas' wanderings from Troy to Italy, and the poem's second half tells of the Trojans' ultimately victorious war upon the Latins, under whose name Aeneas and his Trojan followers are destined to be...
Parcere subiectis et debellare superbos è una locuzione latina che tradotta letteralmente significa risparmiare i sottomessi ed abbattere i superbi. (Virgilio, Eneide, VI, 853). == Contesto == La frase è posta al termine del lungo discorso iniziato al verso 756 con cui l'anima di Anchise indica al figlio Enea il destino delle anime che si assiepano sulle rive del fiume Lete. Secondo una poetica rielaborazione della teoria della metempsicosi di ascendenza pitagorica, Virgilio immagina che negli inferi le anime nei campi elisi possano trasmigrare nelle stirpi di futuri eroi destinati a fondare città...
 
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What group of people never get angry?
Nomads
03:42
> Xlinks plans to bring solar power from sunny Morocco to cloudy Britain with HVDC (high voltage direct current) undersea cables, which will run 3,800km — the longest such cables in the world. For the small sum of £20bn, the project could deliver 8% of the UK’s energy demand
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I wonder which existing language has the most ancient "span of understanding", that is, the extent of time (into the past) over which today's users of the language can freely read and understand texts in that language.
I would not understand the Russian language of the 13th century.
09:12
@CowperKettle I understand well enough, say, 8th century Persian. Some of the vocabulary is unfamiliar of course.
@CowperKettle I wonder when was the last time Babylon Bee satirized anything of the American right
09:40
@CowperKettle Hebrew would probably be a good contender but it wasn't a spoken language for almost two millennia. We should revive Proto-Indo-European to compete!
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@CowperKettle Early Modern English, .ca 1600 (Shakespeare, KJV BiblIt seems that Russia took another hundred or so years to get there under Catherine and Peter, if the Wikipedia article is reasonably dependent. I dh text available.e) is pretty much understandable, thanks to some standardization and “locking in” of spelling conventions with the increased use in London of the Gutenberg Press.
It seems that Russia took another hundred or so years to get there under Catherine and Peter, if the Wikipedia article is reasonably dependent. I dh text available.
oh well.
 
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In linguistics, a conservative form, variety, or feature of a language is one that has changed relatively little across the language's history, or which is relatively resistant to change. It is the opposite of innovative, innovating, or advanced forms, varieties, or features, which have undergone relatively larger or more recent changes. Furthermore, an archaic form is not only chronologically old (and often conservative) but also rarely used anymore in the modern language, and an obsolete form has fallen out of use altogether. A conservative linguistic form, such as a word or sound feature, is...
They say that Icelandic is the most conservative Germanic language, supposedly sounding much like Old Norse (~1500 years ago). And Lithuanian most conservative of all Indo-European languages (preserving a lot of the vocab and grammar of PIE).
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Today in "Are they British or are they wrong," another example sentence from H&P:
> It is hoped to return to this issue.
Am I correct that this sentence is wrong, at least in AmE? H&P seem fine with it.
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Blorp
Noun: blorp (plural blorps)
  1. A sound suggesting a splash of or into a volume of semiliquid material.
Verb: blorp (third-person singular simple present blorps, present participle blorping, simple past and past participle blorped)
  1. To move or be deposited with a blorp.
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Word I constantly forget of the day: edamame
Word of the evening: to knock under --- "why should we knock under and go with the stream" (Thoreau)
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> Climate scientists have been left "flabbergasted" as temperatures in parts of South America near 40 degrees Celsius in the middle of what is supposed to be its winter. This is between 10C and 20C above what is normal for this time of year in parts of Chile and Argentina, according to data from the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF).
> Several other climate scientists have also expressed their disbelief at the temperatures, including Andrew Watkins, a climatologist from Australia's Bureau of Meteorology, who wrote on social media that the figures were "mind-boggling".
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@CowperKettle "Edam Army" only works as a pun in non-rhotic dialects :p
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Navalny just got sentenced to an additional 19 years in jail, this time in "specialized jail", which is worse than high-security jail.
I guess it's some kind of the strictest jail regime in Russia; I did not read up on this.
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@alphabet It feels a little academic/international English to me (AmE).
Like what is the marker for sorta grammatical but sounds funny/expects something different?
is it '?'?
Like "This procedure allows to calculate doubly exponential functions quickly"
I always feel like there should be a pronoun.
"This allows -you- to..." or "This allows -one- to ..."
@CowperKettle I've never heard that phrase (or have been deaf to it). I do't know what it could mean even in context. There are a million casual phrasal verbs ... maybe the kids in early 1800's Concord MA had this one?
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> Dr Samantha Burgess, from the Copernicus Climate Change Service, says March should be when the oceans globally are warmest, not August. "The fact that we've seen the record now makes me nervous about how much warmer the ocean may get between now and next March," she says.
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@Mitch H&P, in addition to the usual asterisk, use "?" to mean "questionable," "%" to mean "only for you wacko Americans," and "!" for "some people say this but we judge them for it"
@alphabet †Only Christians talk this way.
☸Acceptable but costs you karma.
ૐThis usage is absolutely void, always has been, and always will be.
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% I was microwaving water to make tea.
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@alphabet ☸I prefer coffee over tea.
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Upcoming Bollywood movie. One man defeats entire Pakistan army LOL
18:42
Is Indian cinema just all over the top? Now I'm thinking about that clip from Bahubali 2
I've never actually watched any Indian movies, I don't think
Bollywood is Hollywood on steroids.
I also get the impression that there's a lot of musicals too
19:01
Just like the earlier days of Hollywood.
So ... I see there was a milestone reached on the strike negotiations
19:16
Yes. The negotiations are over
Various groups are voting to see if they'll end their strike
Many stack overflow flags have been handled
@Mitch You could have held out for guess #6.
@user223626865 Bollywood is Hollywood on ghee.
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Never mind the regular Octo score. I'm going with this one.
Why do I hate using bid as the past tense of bid? Why do I think it ought to be bade.
19:39
@Robusto Because it bodes well.
19:52
@Laurel Now there aren't a lot of songs in many movies. Mostly two or three. In old times there were lot of songs.
52 mins ago, by user223626865
Just like the earlier days of Hollywood.
Two or three musical numbers is still a lot for a movie :p
@user85795 Earlier Hollywood movies had songs in between?
Correct.
@Laurel Yeah. But the most I observed were around seven. You'd get bored today. They would take around 40 mins of full movie.
@user85795 I have watched many Hollywood movies made after 1970. Didn't observe much songs.
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50s and 60s
youtube is a treasure house
@MetaEd It abideth not well with me.
Can't believe I missed a new Geoff Lindsey video: m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0yL2GezneU
This time on vocal fry
click bait
@alphabet For a Brit he is surprisingly uncondescending about American English, even when he's poking fun at our women.
@user85795 Nope.
20:16
@alphabet how dare you
to be honest, I used to dare all the time.
And I think that causes complete intestinal eversion if done once too often.
@Mitch Yes, but how did you dare?
I'm not a doctor but... I think that happens
@Robusto About ... yay much.
spread hands out a bit
Hmm. Not a lot then.
more than a smidge
@Robusto 99.999...% of youtube is
20:18
@user85795 Not that video. I'm selective.
i mean it's a turn of phrase. I used to do it regularly. Made the tea very very strong
@Mitch How many smidges in a smoot?
@alphabet what's the order? From least objectionable to most? or the other way?
@Vikas That is very unrealistic. You need at least 3. One might get injured, and you need one to take care of him while the third finishes the attack.
@Laurel Have you -seen- the Fast and Furious franchise? Sure, they don't dance on top of a moving train in the desert, go through a tunnel, and come out at the top of the Alps...
Instead they drive a humvee onto the top of train that is going over the top of the Alps.
@Laurel To be honest, I didn't notice since I don't really see the other sites much.
@Robusto there is nothing to select between 99.999...% and 100.000...%
@user85795 Except that video.
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there is no in between
Don't try to catch me out on stupid math tricks. Have you ever been out to infinity and beyond? No, I didn't think so.
@Robusto Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Goddammit
I promised no more puns
You set me up.
I blame you.
It was just lying there. I knew you couldn't resist.
is there an end to the endless
@Robusto I figured the math would work out. You'd have to have a word consisting of just one letter repeating 5 times.
If you're going to screw around and make up shit, you better make sure it's mathematically correct.
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@Mitch Non-word guesses are not allowed.
@Robusto I used to know this. It's a power of two, right?
@user85795 depends on your number system. In a non-standard model of the reals there can be a continuum of numbers between those two.
You think you finally have convinced the internet that 0.999...=1 and then some wild hairred logician comes along and confuses the shit out of everyone.
@Mitch It's an irrational number, if I recall.
@Robusto Uh, actually...
well beyond
What were you smoking that got you there?
@Robusto OK I looked it up. This is a nasty trick question. a smidge is a unit of volume (1/32 of a teaspoon), and a smoot is a unit of length.
Approximate measures are units of volumetric measurement which are not defined by a government or government-sanctioned organization, or which were previously defined and are now repealed, yet which remain in use.It may be that all English-unit derived capacity measurements are derived from one original approximate measurement: the mouthful, consisting of about 1⁄2 ounce, called the ro in ancient Egypt (their smallest recognized unit of capacity). The mouthful was still a unit of liquid measure during Elizabethan times. (The principal Egyptian standards from small to large were the ro, hin, hekat...
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@Mitch That wild haired logician doesn't state the assumptions correctly up front where they should be.
The smoot is a nonstandard, humorous unit of length created as part of an MIT fraternity pledge to Lambda Chi Alpha by Oliver R. Smoot, who in October 1958 lay down repeatedly on the Harvard Bridge between Boston and Cambridge, Massachusetts, so that his fraternity brothers could use his height to measure the length of the bridge. == Description == One smoot is equal to Oliver Smoot's height at the time of the prank, 5 feet 7 inches (1.70 m). The bridge's length was measured to be 364.4 smoots (2,035 ft; 620.1 m) "± 1 εar" with the "±" showing measurement uncertainty and spelled with an epsilon...
@Mitch Made-up units of measure can be anything you want them to be.
@Mitch Even Vertasium does it.
@Robusto To be honest, and it seems today is the day for me to be so, any kind of intoxication would have been deleterious to the derivation.
@user85795 Are you still trying to figure out Zeno's paradox now?
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@Robusto Once they have a wiki page it is set in stone. The concept has become a thing that will last forever.
@Mitch Wiki pages can be revised.
@Robusto Oh
Jincks!
It's funny that ChatGPT is an unreliable confabulator of Wikipedia like information... which implies that Wikipedia is more authoritative.
Kids have been using it for years to learn made up factoids.
When I say kids, I'm projecting.
It sort of how I keep my youthful glow.
forever young
OK, I've caught up with the transcript. Now new stuff!
So... anything going on in the world?
@Robusto Any fires? Or just hot?
Would it be dispiriting to note that it is the middle of summer with a lot left to go, -and- the usual fire season doesn't start until the fall?
Worth watching. You can even skip the commercial at the end.
@Robusto I'm not going to click on the link. Probably some russian youtube knockoff
@Robusto Oh...commercial? Then maybe I'll try it out.
I'm waiting for my usual science podcast to tell me what is reality or not, or somewhere in between, like the numbers strictly greater than .99999... and strictly less than 1
It is kind of funny... I feel like science news has been "Top story tonight: AI solves everything and eats live babies at the same time" and finally physics (or really, material science) gets the headline.
@Vikas Any recs?
@Mitch nope
@Laurel You want to know the movie names?
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@Laurel 3 Idiots is good. Mitch is probably our most avid Bollywood watcher though
Jan 27, 2014 at 23:05, by MετάEd
@cyril It's the speed of light expressed in microfortnights per smoot.
@Mitch I forget how isolated some users are. Arguably you didn't notice many effects here because none of us mods (iirc) were striking. We don't get too much AI crap here either. On sites like Academia all the mods decided to strike and then the site repeatedly got hit by too much spam for site regulars to handle
@Vikas Yeah. But keep in mind I don't speak anything other than English so I guess they need to be popular enough to at least have subs
In mathematics, the epsilon numbers are a collection of transfinite numbers whose defining property is that they are fixed points of an exponential map. Consequently, they are not reachable from 0 via a finite series of applications of the chosen exponential map and of "weaker" operations like addition and multiplication. The original epsilon numbers were introduced by Georg Cantor in the context of ordinal arithmetic; they are the ordinal numbers ε that satisfy the equation ε = ω ε , \varepsilon =\omega...
Just the start
@M.A.R. haha I was going to ask for recommendations. because I couldn't name one bollywood movie.
I have seen 3 idiots, and it is good, but I had no idea it was bollywood. And there are no sons, right?
and now that you've mentioned that one I can't think of any o
oh yeah 'Delhi Belly' is very good.
is that bollywood? again no singing I think.
The only movie in India that I've seen that has a dance routine is ...
Slumdog Millionnaire
a total -not- Bollywood movie
classic
@Mitch Interesting that it's Hinglish. I wonder how common that is
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@Robusto wait.. that's not about room temperature superconductors.
goddammit it's right in the title.
He hid it there.
title fornication
better than 'title formication'
you don't want ants in your titles...very uncomfortable.
But formic acid is better than fornic acid, at least from a human perspective.
is also called click bait
"I want t minutes of your time."
21:05
@Laurel wow... I didn't realize that people were really using AI to make posts, incentivized entirely by the joy of empty internet points.
empty numbers
@user85795 Life advice: play it at double speed and use the right arrow to skip ahead 10 seconds
makes your own blipverts
hm... those are the one things you can't speed up or pan ahead in
One things
Yes
I said that
I'll let it stand
I used to think it was 'unos cosa' for one thing (and still sorta do).
But a number of people have winced visibly when I say that.
two is dos which is plural
three is tres and is also plural
one should be unos
Spanish people don't know what a mess they've made.
@user85795 number pride
number sorrow
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@Mitch Even Vertasium does it.
pff and he calls himself a physics teacher
@user85795 so let ω be the least number great than all the natural numbers (it is the smallest infinity).
the smallest endlessness
21:16
yes
and add one to it. this new thing is obviously the same cardinality as ω.
But
where do you add to something that is endless
as an ordinal, if put that one to the ... on the... well.... just 'after' the infinity, it is ordinally a different number, 1 bigger than just ω. (of course ('of course' he says, what a kidder), if you put the one in the other side, ordinally it is equivalent to just plain old ω)
so 1 + ω = ω (they're the same ordinal) but ω + 1is strictly great than ω
so we have a second infinity
it shouldn't be too hard to see that (accepting all that) you could just as easily add another one (one the right) to get ω + 2, a second infinity.
You might see where this is going.
So you can keep on doing that ω + n, for any natural number n.
until you stop
which is never
but
let's just say you do that
that gets you ω + ω
an infinite number of numbers bigger than ω
for convenience we'll call that ω2 (for ω times 2 because we kind of have two copies of ω, one next to the first one)
so, is that enough numbers?
haha of course not.
let's add one
ω2 + 1
and again
ω2 + 2
and again and again and again
ω2 + n
You might see where this is going
add an infinity more and you get:
ω3
Look man it's Friday, we're not stopping now.
ω3 + 1
OK got the pattern: ω3 + n
ω4
etc
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You might see where this is going
ω times ω
or for convenience ω^ω
That's infinity squared number of infinities
See, if I were smoking dope this would be more difficult.
You really weren't doing anything important before dinner tonight anyway.
OK so where were we...
So there's no more infinities, right?
You
Hey you, there in the back, reading comics, what did you say?
Oh I kinda skipped a few ordinals. They're just the same thing but with a few more details, like (ω^17)+35 + (w^9)*2 + 4, essentially polynomials over ω
oops I made a mistake above.
instead of ω^ω it should have been ω^2
and that was sort of a hint as to how to continue
you can get ω^3, ω^4, etc... up to ω^n, do it a bunch more and you get ω^ω
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1 min ago, by Mitch
You might see where this is going
you can get ω^(ω+1), ω^(ω2), ω^(ω^ω), ω^(ω^(ω^(ω^(ω...))))
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You might see where this is going
Long story short... sure you can keep going, you keep labeling the 'limit' with a new name or notation.
So there are a lot.
41 mins ago, by Mitch
In mathematics, the epsilon numbers are a collection of transfinite numbers whose defining property is that they are fixed points of an exponential map. Consequently, they are not reachable from 0 via a finite series of applications of the chosen exponential map and of "weaker" operations like addition and multiplication. The original epsilon numbers were introduced by Georg Cantor in the context of ordinal arithmetic; they are the ordinal numbers ε that satisfy the equation ε = ω ε , \varepsilon =\omega...
It keeps going on after that, but the notation gets to be a little messier.
By the way, all these ordinals are still equinumerate with the cardinal \aleph _{0}.
There are much bigger ordinals that are also the size of the continuum (therefore much bigger than $\epsilon_0$)
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@user85795 Where does this fit between 99.999...% and 100%?
22:15
@MetaEd No doubt
@M.A.R. > “The microbiota is inherited from the mother at birth”
Although variants of this statement are more often found in popular science articles than the scientific literature, it is an example of how nuance is extremely important when describing the human microbiome. Although some microorganisms are directly transferred from mother to baby during birth14,15, proportionally few microbiota species are truly ‘heritable’ and persist through from birth to adulthood in the offspring15,16. Indeed, most of the expansion in gut microbiota diversity occurs after birth, during the first few year
TLDR - the gut microbiome is mostly from solid food (surviving through the upper GI)
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@Robusto I have learned that, if you want to annoy a BrE speaker on this site, you just need to refer to some phrase as a "Britishism."
Apparently, since they invented English, they can't have "ism"s. Only we can have "ism"s.
@Mitch Well there's that too but that's not what hit Academia. That was mostly just regular spam, no question about it, since you (probably) know call girls and rupee loans aren't on topic there
23:52
@alphabet Yes. It is sad.
Yes, there are no Briticisms, just Americans(c)hisms!
Hey, we're not the ones who got them involved with Brexit.
@jlliagre It was a lucky break!

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