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CowperKettle

02:08

Slavo-Serbia or Slaveno-Serbia (Ukrainian: Слов'яносербія, romanized: Slov'ianoserbiia; Russian: Славяносербия, romanized: Slavyanoserbiya; Serbian: Славеносрбија / Slavenosrbija or Славосрбија / Slavosrbija; Slavonic-Serbian: Славо-Сербія or Славено-Сербія), was a territory of Imperial Russia from 1753 to 1764. It was located by the right bank of the Donets River between the Bakhmutka River and Luhan River. This area today constitutes the territories of the present-day Luhansk Oblast and Donetsk Oblast of Ukraine. The administrative centre of Slavo-Serbia was Bakhmut (Bahmut). == History == By...

In the 18th century, Bakhmut was part of an autonomous region where Serbs lived.

alphabet

02:22

Russia Wants to Build a MAGA Colony for US Conservatives, Lawyer Claims

That lawyer sounds like a crank, but you never know

CowperKettle

02:34

Building a colony near Moscow is a mistake, for Moscow is a pit of LGBT and other sins.

They should move it further south, to some steppe part of the Krasnodar region

Robusto

@alphabet I say let them go. The sooner the better. Buh-bye!

CowperKettle

> Pancreatic Cancer Vaccine Shows Promise in Small Initial Trial

An mRNA vaccine prevented tumor recurrence after surgery in eight of 16 patients, but the therapy still needs to be validated in larger trials

Wow. Pancreatic cancer is such a deadly disease that even a 50% chance of avoiding recurrence is nothing short of a miracle.

Robusto

@CowperKettle The big problem with it is that it's very difficult to detect until it's nearly fatal.

CowperKettle

Yes. My uncle died of it. It was only detected after it metasthasized into the liver, and started blocking the passage of bile.

My uncle was discounting the symptoms at first, thinking it was all due to his nervousness.

He died before he reached 50 years of age.

The worst thing in Russia is poor availability of painkillers, because the state is chary of giving "narcotics" to patients, and one needs to go through a lot of paperwork.

Robusto

@tchrist: Fires starting in NM again. Three NE of Santa Fe of ~1,000 acres or better. Others around the state.

tchrist

02:48

@Robusto Seriously? We're soaked here. Yesterday we got 120% of our average May rainfall.

Robusto

@CowperKettle It's the same here. The whole OxyContin scam is preventing people in dire need from getting their meds.

@tchrist Yeah, but it's dryer down here.

Check out the fire.airnow map. Most of the lower 48 US is shrouded in smoke.

CowperKettle

In 2004-5, I chatted with a woman in California who had cancer with a poor prognosis, and she wrote that she was given narcotic painkillers "like candies", as much as she wanted. She lived in San Diego (which she called Insane Diego)

Robusto

Big black plumes off the New England coast.

@CowperKettle Yeah, no longer.

When I had my knee replacement I got plenty of painkillers, but I hated using them. What I chiefly needed was sleep, and narcotics prevent you from getting good sleep.

And the painkillers did not help during PT.

tchrist

@Robusto Huh, what the hell? I had no idea. Smoke hasn't quite gotten here yet.

Robusto

I don't understand it.

tchrist

02:52

@Robusto Yeah, I can't sleep on painkillers.

Robusto

Opiates make you nod out for a short time and then you're wide awake and unhappy.

alphabet

@Robusto Have you tried milk

Robusto

One of Evolution’s Biggest Moments Was Re-created in a Year

> Multicellular creatures, with their large size, complex body, and specialized tissues and organs, are so much more complicated than single-celled ones that it seems impossibly hard for the latter to turn into the former. But in fact, the process might have been “relatively simple,” William Ratcliff, an evolutionary biologist at Georgia Tech, told me. He and his team managed to replicate it in his laboratory in a matter of years.

CowperKettle

There was a Roman emperor who never aged after he turned 19.
His name was Constant Teen.

Robusto

@alphabet Not with opiates. But I hope never to have to take those again anyway.

alphabet

03:01

@Robusto No no I just mean getting high by consuming an all-milk diet

You know, the normal way

Robusto

Oh. Nope, never tried it.

I don't even drink alcohol anymore, except to dangle a glass of wine in my hand at a party and take the occasional sip.

alphabet

Or try the Benadryl challenge

Robusto

Please.

alphabet

Tbh there's part of me that wants to take too much Benadryl so that I can have the whole "covered in hallucinated spiders" experience

But I am told the juice isn't worth the squeeze, and is also poisonous

CowperKettle

One of my uncles drank alcohol all his life, so I'm abstaining. Sometimes he drank himself to a very bad state.

alphabet

03:06

@CowperKettle Like Florida?

CowperKettle

Like Chelyabisnk Oblast

He also went to jail for a couple years, for selling a state corporation's gasoline on the side.

Not to a high-security jail, but to a penal settlement where one is relatively free, but still.

That was in the Soviet times, a lot of people stole and sold stuff from their places of work.

CowperKettle

04:42

I started reading a pro-war website, and they are really mad at the army officials, and scrupulously describe all the problems created by poor leadership. kcpn.info/articles/…

Word of the morn: giallo - a genre of Italian cinema mixing mystery and thriller with psychological and erotic elements.

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De Delftse donderslag was een ramp die plaatsvond op 12 oktober 1654. Om kwart over tien in de ochtend ontplofte op die dag een in het noordoosten van de Delftse binnenstad gevestigde opslagplaats voor buskruit. Historici gaan ervan uit dat bij de ramp minstens honderd doden vielen en ook een dodental van 'enige honderden' wordt niet uitgesloten. Het precieze aantal mensen dat bij de ramp is omgekomen, is echter nooit vastgesteld. Nagenoeg elk gebouw in de binnenstad liep schade op en het gebied ten oosten van de Verwersdijk werd volledig met de grond gelijk gemaakt. == Plaats == Het kruithuis...

40 tons of gunpowder exploded, demolishing the whole center of Delft.

Rembrandt's most promising pupil died in the explosion

Carel Fabritius

Carel Pietersz. Fabritius (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈkaːrəl ˈpitərs faːˈbritsijɵs]; bapt. 27 February 1622 – 12 October 1654) was a Dutch painter. He was a pupil of Rembrandt and worked in his studio in Amsterdam. Fabritius, who was a member of the Delft School, developed his own artistic style and experimented with perspective and lighting. Among his works are A View of Delft (1652; National Gallery, London), The Goldfinch (1654), and The Sentry (1654). == Biography == Carel Pietersz. Fabritius was born in February 1622 in Middenbeemster, a village in the ten-year-old Beemster polder in the Dutch...

CowperKettle

07:39

> Employee survey revealed that six out of seven dwarfs were not Happy

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CowperKettle

Hopantenic acid

Hopantenic acid (homopantothenic acid), also known as N-pantoyl-GABA, is a central nervous system depressant. Formulated as the calcium salt, it is used as a pharmaceutical drug in the Russian Federation for a variety of neurological, psychological and psychiatric conditions and sold as Pantogam (Russian: Пантогам). == Chemistry == Hopantenic acid is a homologue of pantothenic acid. While pantothenic acid is the amide of D-pantoate and β-alanine, hopantenic acid is the amide of D-pantoate and γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA). This change leads to an additional CH2 in the molecule. == See als...

Prescribed in Russia for brain disorders, although no proper studies were made.

The drug is called Pantogam

CowperKettle

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CowperKettle

11:01

> The pathophysiology of cognitive impairments in DKA remains under-researched, although children and adolescents with DKA are precisely the group of patients requiring special attention due to the severity of their disease, with a complicated and often negative prognosis in terms of brain dysfunction.

I'd like to rephrase "in terms of brain dysfunction"

CowperKettle

11:30

I found this in my flat.

I think I can guess what it is.

Vikas

@CowperKettle Guess.

The pronunciation seems different. In English I pronounce it different.

CowperKettle

11:44

Google said the original language is "Sanskrit"

CowperKettle

11:59

> A boy goes to the Olympics and and approaches a man with a long stick, and says to him, "Are you a pole vaulter?"
"No, I'm German," says the man, "but how did you know my name?"

Vikas

@CowperKettle It's Hindi

CowperKettle

@Vikas Yes, I also think so.

Probably the headline of the book is similar in Hindi and Sanskrit, or Google Lens made a mistake

Vikas

And I would read the name as "Lave Telstoy". That's how they have written it.

CowperKettle

Probably some sloppy proofreading :)

Ouch, it's hot in Ellenabad.

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In Russian, "air-tight" or "water-tight" is germetichesky, from the Greek god Hermes.

Pardon, no. It's from Hermes Trismegistus, the god and mythological alchemist, said to possess a magic ability to seal treasure chests so that nothing could access their contents.

hermetically sealed

Verb: hermetically sealed

simple past tense and past participle of hermetically seal

Adjective: hermetically sealed

Sealed with an airtight hermetic seal.

Robusto

12:15

Never say "hermetically" without saying "sealed."

CowperKettle

Robusto

Too recondite.

CowperKettle

Yes

Not as recondite as epicondyle, but still quite recondite

Robusto

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CowperKettle

I know where roughly this country is located, but don't know its name.

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Robusto

13:33

@Mitch NYT Spelling Bee started accepting nacelle. Must have been my email to them.

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Connie Converse- Talkin' Like You (Two Tall Mountains)

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Wow. I just heard about her. She sounds like a version of Joni Mitchell before Joni was a thing.

Great lyrics.

Connie Converse sings How Sad How Lovely

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Before Dylan, There Was Connie Converse. Then She Vanished.

> Connie Converse was a pioneer of what’s become known as the singer-songwriter era, making music in the predawn of a movement that had its roots in the Greenwich Village folk scene of the early 1960s.
But her songs, created a decade earlier, arrived just a moment too soon. They didn’t catch on. And by the time the sun had come up in the form of a young Bob Dylan, she was already gone. Not simply retired. She had vanished from New York City, as she eventually would from the world, along with her music and legacy.

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These are not produced in any meaningful way; they're just demos, but they reveal a talent that should have been allowed to bloom.

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CowperKettle

14:45

Connie Converse

Elizabeth Eaton Converse (born August 3, 1924 – disappeared August 1974), was an American singer-songwriter and musician, best known under her professional name Connie Converse. She was active in New York City in the 1950s, and her work is among the earliest known recordings in the singer-songwriter genre of music. In 1974, Converse left her family home in search of a new life and was not heard from again. Despite the obscurity of her music during her lifetime, her work gained posthumous recognition after it was featured on a 2004 radio show. In March 2009, a compilation album of her work, How...

Yanka Dyagileva also vanished, in the sense of "died by suicide".

> Her songs explored themes of desperation and depression, punk-style nihilism, and folk-like lamentations. Her death in 1991 has been considered as a symbolic end to the Siberian punk scene.

Mitch

@Robusto nice.

Did they respond to your 'missing word's request?

If so, hang that on your wall

Robusto

@Mitch They sent a form letter explaining their policies. But the proof is in the pudding: they gave my suggestion the nod. Maybe others complained as well.

s.H.a.R.p.R.i.F.t

15:11

Hey. The modifier "heads and tails" is that rare or something Canadian, like "heads and tails better/above", information on this is scarce.

I only get some thousands of hits with "above" and much less with "better".

I ask if it's Canadian because I got that from Gail Simmons in some Top Chef ep.

Vikas

15:37

@CowperKettle Yeah.

CowperKettle

15:56

> What's the oldest Animal in Africa?
The Zebra. It's still Black and White!

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still (in) Black & White

Robusto

16:21

@s.H.a.R.p.R.i.F.t It's usually "heads or tails"; I can't recall ever even hearing "heads and tails."

CowperKettle

The English expression vernier thruster is maneuver engine in Russian.

The very word vernier scale is nonius in Russian.

Thus, vernier caliper in Russian is shtangenzirkul with a nonius

With the first word taken from German Stangenzirkel (compass)

I like the expression vernier thruster, it gives the feel of fine-tuned maneuverability

Another quaint expression is lofting

Lofting

Lofting is a drafting technique to generate curved lines. It is used in plans for streamlined objects such as aircraft and boats. The lines may be drawn on wood and the wood then cut for advanced woodworking. The technique can be as simple as bending a flexible object, such as a long strip of thin wood or thin plastic so that it passes over three non-linear points, and scribing the resultant curved line; or as elaborate as plotting the line using computers or mathematical tables. Lofting is particularly useful in boat building, when it is used to draw and cut pieces for hulls and keels. These...

Because it was done in actual lofts at first.

jlliagre

17:09

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s.H.a.R.p.R.i.F.t

18:54

@Robusto Yes, the coin toss or with "can't make head of tail" of something, in French we have that too, "ni queue ni tête".

But yeah, that was "heads and tails above the rest" as in "entirely", the whole coin, all elements of.

At least that's what I understood in context. She was commenting the meal and they had won.

Also with "head" singular: ew.com/article/2014/04/10/cbs-interview-colbert-letterman

Mitch

20:36

@s.H.a.R.p.R.i.F.t that just sounds like a mixed metaphor, or rather mixing two sayings together. "Heads or tails" (to choose something when flipping a coin) and 'heads above the rest'. And since :'or' makes no sense, replaced with 'and'

Just because someone says something doesn't mean it's grammatical. If that full phrase has been used multiple times, then it's a kind of 'eggcorn' (look it up)

Robusto

@Mitch But you could easily say "I can't make heads or tails out of it."

alphabet

22:01

@CowperKettle You can actually buy that Pantogam stuff: rupharma.com/pantogamactive

RUPharma is against the war, but also quasi-illegal.

M.A.R.

23:49

@CowperKettle I would rephrase the whole thing after complicated with something like " . . . neurological sequelae". Or you can say these kids are in higher risk of neurological comorbidities.

It depends on which your sentence entails, if we're to split hairs.

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