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Cape Flissingsky (Russian: Мыс Флиссингский; Mys Flissingskiy) is a cape on Northern Island, Novaya Zemlya, Russia. It is considered the easternmost point of Europe, including islands. The cape was discovered by Willem Barents in 1596, during his pursuit of the northern sea route to Asia. It is named after the Dutch city of Vlissingen, the original name being 't Vlissinger Hooft. The cape is a few km from the shelter that Barents and his crew built to overwinter from 1596–97, and he ultimately died the next year. A memorial cross in his honor is erected in the same area. == See also == Extreme...
Russia has a cape named after the city of Vlissingen, where de Ruyter was born
Dutch of the day: belofte, /bəˈlɔf.tə/ - promise, from beloven, to promise, from Middle Dutch loven, from Old Dutch lovon (“to praise, to sing psalms”)
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@CowperKettle Funny that you should call that h.
/ɣ/ is southern, /x/ is northern/standard.
@CowperKettle Pretty cool, I had no idea.
Hard and soft G in Dutch (Dutch: harde en zachte G) refers to a phonetic phenomenon of the pronunciation of the letters ⟨g⟩ and ⟨ch⟩ and also a major isogloss within that language. In southern dialects of Dutch (that is, those spoken roughly below the rivers Rhine, Meuse and Waal), the distinction between the phonemes /x/ and /ɣ/ is usual, with both realized as cardinal velars [x, ɣ] or post-palatal [ç˗, ʝ˗], hereafter represented without the diacritics. The allophony between those two types of fricatives is termed soft G in Dutch dialectology. It is almost the same as the distinction between the...
Yes, I read this, but I'm not savvy in IPA symbols ))
It sounds like "h" ))
Ukrainian has a special letter for the totally hard "g" sound, a special Г with a small notch. To pronounce some foreign words.
Ghe with upturn (Ґ ґ; italics: Ґ ґ) is a letter of the Cyrillic script. It is part of the Ukrainian alphabet, the Pannonian Rusyn alphabet and both the Carpathian Rusyn alphabets, and also some variants of the Urum and Belarusian (i.e. Belarusian Classical Orthography) alphabets. In these alphabets it is usually called "Ge", while the letter it follows — ⟨Г г⟩ (which in its turn is also called "Ge" in Russian and many other languages) — is called "He". In Unicode, this letter is called "Ghe with upturn".The letterform of this letter is based on the letterform of the letter ⟨Г г⟩, but its handwritten...
For the plosive g.
> It represents the voiced velar plosive /ɡ/, like the pronunciation of ⟨g⟩ in "go".
@CowperKettle To me, not at all!
@CowperKettle I think what they mean is that, in southern accents, g=ch is always pronounced like /ɣ/, but r can be pronounced more like /x/.
Not sure whether that's /x/, exactly.
At any rate, I do believe they ever pronounce g=ch as /x/ in the south.
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I also came across echt (real) and echtheid (reality)
And echt also means marriage, and echtelijk, matrimony.
echtelijk in het echt - matrimony in real life
Right!
Note that echtelijk is the adjective, "(concerning) marriage".
So you would say, het echtelijk bed, the bed in which a married couple sleeps, or echtelijke ruzie, a fight within a married couple.
Note also that echt "matrimony" is very formal.
You may find it in laws or wedding ceremonies, in which a couple is *verbonden in de echt".
Haha nice.
The adjective echt "real" is very common, though.
Reality is mostly translated as "werkelijkheid" or "realiteit".
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@Cerberus Is that from the same root as German echt, meaning genuine?
I suppose it must be.
"Echtheid" is more like uhh authenticity.
@Robusto Wait, I don't know.
The adjective echt is the same as in German.
I don't know the provenance of the noun echt.
Yes, they are related; I've looked it up.
@Cerberus I have heard once Garage with its initial G pronounced almost like an H by a Dutch speaking Belgian. I don't know if it is standard or not but I was impressed enough by this pronunciation to remember it after several decades.
@jlliagre That is probably /ɣ/?
Normal in southern accents, including Flanders.
So about half of all Dutch speakers.
Oddly, we pronounce the first g in garage the Dutch way (according to one's own accent), the second one the French way.
Though my mother's best friend pronounces both the French way.
Zha razh
@Cerberus Cool.
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@Cerberus It was more like a very soft /x/
Maybe that is the definition of /ɣ/?
I'm never quite sure about that sound.
@CowperKettle Yeah that sounds pretty much like southern g=ch.
(About Viktour Bout, an illegal arms dealer)
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Even in the 17th century people disliked Republicans
Odd.
Maybe because they had Tromp
 
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> Alyssa, a 13-year old T-cell leukemia (ALL) patient in the UK, was the first person to receive a base editing therapeutic—T cells with three base edits—and the first patient reported to benefit from base editing: complete remission, 6 months later. bbc.com/news/health-63859184
Slang term of the day: sprog (child)
Noun: sprog (countable and uncountable, plural sprogs)
  1. (UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, informal, humorous) A child.
  2. 1984 September 13, Donald Gould, Forum: Suck it and see, page 54,
  3. 2008, Julian Knight, Wills, Probate, & Inheritance Tax For Dummies, UK Edition, unnumbered page,
  4. 2010, Brett Atkinson, Sarah Bennett, Scott Kennedy, New Zealand′s South Island, Lonely Planet, page 220,
  5. (UK, military, RAF, slang, derogatory) A new recruit.
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Verb: sprog (third-person singular simple present sprogs, present participle sprogging, simple past and past participle sprogged)
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@CowperKettle That's interesting. But they forgot to mention the cost involved.
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@FaheemMitha The cost must be high, yes.
 
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Word of the day: charley horse (may date back to American slang of the 1880s, and is possibly from the pitcher Charlie "Old Hoss" Radbourn, who is said to have suffered from cramps)
 
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> The results of this year’s McKinsey Global Survey on AI show the expansion of the technology’s use since we began tracking it five years ago, but with a nuanced picture underneath. mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/…
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"The best film of all time" according to the 2022 Sight & Sound poll bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time
I'm curious if others can read the entirety of this rather lengthy article. In my experience WP articles are behind a paywall.
This article is about one of India's leading home-grown monsters. Currently the third richest person in the world. And maybe coming to a neighborhood near you. Quite informative.
I don't follow or subscribe to WP. I got this one via a Facebook link.
How dumb can you get to spoil your relationship even with such an authocratic, landlocked country as Kazahstan.
@FaheemMitha Yes, I'm sorry about this. India needs nuclear and solar. Coal can wait, I hope.
I watched some De Ruyter in the night, and went back to sleep. And I had a dream where I stood on the quarterdeck and drank tea while the ship engaged another ship in battle. I finished the cup and hung it on some wooden railing, by the cup's handle. I hope it would not break, I thought, because it looked like an expensive porcelain cup.
Because the ship was really swaying this way and that, trying to assume the best position for a salvo.
Just as the ships started firing their guns, I woke up.
Dutch of the minute: bedstede, a kind of closet bed
Een bedstede of bedstee is een in de wandbetimmering opgenomen slaapplaats in de vorm van een kast en afgesloten met deurtjes of een gordijn. Bedsteden werden tot aanvang 20e eeuw veel gebruikt, vooral op het platteland in boerderijen. Een van de voordelen van een bedstede is dat hij in de woonkamer kan worden ingebouwd, terwijl hij overdag door de afgesloten deuren toch onzichtbaar is. Een aparte slaapkamer is daardoor overbodig. Een ander voordeel is dat een bedstede in de winter, doordat het een vrij kleine ruimte is (de kast is niet groter dan het bed zelf), door de lichaamswarmte van de slapers...
> Bedsteads were widely used until the early 20th century , especially in rural areas in farmhouses .
Looks cute.
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@CowperKettle Were you able to access the whole article?
A box-bed (also known as a closed bed, close bed, or enclosed bed; less commonly, shut-bed) is a bed enclosed in furniture that looks like a cupboard, half-opened or not. The form originates in western European late medieval furniture. The box-bed is closed on all sides by panels of wood. One enters it by removing curtains, opening a door hinge or sliding doors on one or two slides. The bed is placed on short legs to prevent moisture due to a dirt floor. In front of the box-bed was often a large oaken chest, with the same length as the bed. This was always the 'seat of honour,' and served also...
@FaheemMitha Yes, using the Bypass Paywalls Clean addon in Firefox
I glanced through.
A sad story of corruption.
@CowperKettle Without using a paywall bypass, I mean. Do you get a paywall if you don't use the add-on? I wasn't aware of that add-on. Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it.
@FaheemMitha Yes, I stuck against a paywall
So I opened Firefox and read it there )))
@CowperKettle I see. I normally am as well, but not in this case.
I wonder why.
@CowperKettle Are you aware of something like this for Chrome/Chromium? I'll try installing it on Firefox right now.
@FaheemMitha No, I looked but did not find anything
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@CowperKettle The permissions requires for this add-on do seem quite invasive. What do you think?
I dunno, I probably said "yes"
@CowperKettle That would be more useful with state names, for those of us geographically impaired.
I know where Vermont is, because Stephen King.
I know where Mississippi is, because it's the poorest and the dangerest
But those rectanglish states in the midwest.. I don't remember them.
One of them must be Montana, because my first book in English, The Horse Whisperer, took place there.
Ooops, I was wrong. Montana is just against Canada.
And Stephen King is not Vermont but Maine
So it's still a mess for me.
Solzhenitsyn lived for 20 years in Vermont
@CowperKettle He did? I didn't know that.
Yep ))
He probably loved nature. Once he traveled hundreds of km on a bicycle in Russia to research some history of local settlements.
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@CowperKettle So he emigrated from Russia?
Oh, I see from Wikipedia he did for a while, but eventually returned to Russia.
And it says approx 14 years, not 20.
No, my mistake. 14+4 = 18.
Yes, he returned in 1991 or 92
@CowperKettle Wikipedia says 1994.
I'm not familiar with his work, though of course I have heard of him.
@CowperKettle haha
Well, I can identify Texas confidently
I can probably tell around a dozen and guess a dozen more, but that's about it
@M.A.R. Why Texas? California should be among the easiest.
@CowperKettle isn't Maine the NE-most one?
@FaheemMitha No Mexico is the easiest
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@M.A.R. Yes, it is
For some reason I confused it with Vermont.
Actually, those coloring don't seem to correspond to state lines. Or at least not entirely.
@M.A.R. Mexico is not a US state.
He probably means New Mexico
I'm just kidding, sheesh
Oh, sorry. The map shows all of North America? I was looking at it at the wrong scale.
New Mexico was the site of the nucular project.
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Color me confused. Like I said, not good at geography. One subject I would totally fail in.
@CowperKettle Yes, I know.
@CowperKettle that too because of Breaking Bad
Nucular is a common, proscribed pronunciation of the word "nuclear". It is a rough phonetic spelling of . The Oxford English Dictionary's entry dates the word's first published appearance to 1943. == Dictionary notes == This is one of two contentious pronunciations which receive particular mention in the FAQ of the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in \-kyə-lər\ have been found in widespread use among educated speakers, including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, United States cabinet members, and at least two United States presidents...
@CowperKettle back in chem.SE it was one of the biggest pet peeves at one point
Bush Jr famously pronounced it nucyuler
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@Mitch how many Americans can tell all the 50 states apart?
There are a few Iranian provinces I think half the Iranians I would ask would misidentify
You know, not important, no gas or oil, mostly desert climate
@CowperKettle if finding mercury proves to be difficult, I would recommend buying several hundred thermometers, breaking them, sucking their metal in and emptying it in a container. Then boil off the saliva.
Word of the day: Desk-bombing
@M.A.R. the square Midwestern and modern states are hard for everybody
But in around 3rd grade/8 years old, in school you're given the map and capitals to memorize
I'd guess as adults....if given a map, US people could label 50-70% correctly.
@Mitch That's because there are no square Midwestern states. Which states aren't modern? Was it the Louisiana purchase that did you in, or the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? You're not still railing against Seward's Folly, are you now?
Capitals are much harder... They're often not the most important city in a state so you don't hear about them as often
@tchrist crupes... Autocomplete on a phone
@M.A.R. Well, you're full of bright ideas.
Stupid chatbots.
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Mountain and Midwestern states (those west of the Mississippi)
@Mitch *crypes
@M.A.R. Merci
Maybe you were saying modem states?
What did the autocorrect change?
And by square I meant rectangular
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I won't lie, I just googled "modern US states"
And I was like Alaska isn't very hard
I never meant to say 'modern'
Croipes
Alabama vs mississippi
Vermont vs new hampshire
Who doesn't know those things?
And a capital without a Capitol building!
Mississippi isn't not going to touch the Great River.
Kansas Colorado Wyoming the dakotas
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New Hampshire has a coastline.
@Mitch Seriously?
Where are you from, the Azores?
New Mexico and Arizona should be doable because they have little doohickeys but people tend not to remember that new Mexico is a thing at all
@tchrist starts to raise hand, thinks twice
They ALL have dohickeys.
I only know they're Coen brothers states
@tchrist you're pretty smart.
@M.A.R.was asking what I thought about average Americans, not people who read
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In half a century we will have to move to the moon as half the planet will be submerged in water.
GEOGRAPHY IS OBSOLETE
Colorado and Wyoming come reasonably close being similar in proportion and lack of doohickeys easily viewable from Mars. But you can't put Colorado next to Montana nor Wyoming next to Kansas. You do know about Kansas, right?
I know it has good mafia. Top notch
The states that are hard to remember are the tiny microstates of the far east, like Delaware.
Or Maryland.
And the Carovirginal states.
Rhode Island
Everything is hard to remember if you're not exposed to it often
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Who rhode island?
Why was 6 afraid of 7?
There are no roads to the island. You can't get there from here.
Because 7 8 9
Providence
rode island
@M.A.R. Kansas is where you send mafia members who screw up in the big cities
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@M.A.R. Little kids are given games and puzzles at very, very young ages that are designed to teach them the names and shapes and locations of all the states.
Well same here
And I expect in most places
But it's only downhill after the geography class in high school
For the US or for their own country?
Their own country of course
Why downhill after geography?
If you think learning the states is hard, consider the counties.
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Or the flags.
@user4539917 Not enough violets!
Or the dinosaurs
@M.A.R. Chicken on a Raft!
@M.A.R. I asked because the topic was implicitly about people around the world not knowing US states that well (as though they're supposed to)
Purple is one of the least used colours in vexillology and heraldry. Currently, the colour appears in only three national flags: that of Dominica, El Salvador, and Nicaragua, and one co-official national flag, the Wiphala (co-official national flag of Bolivia). However, it is also present in the flags of several administrative subdivisions around the world, as well as flags of political and ethnic groups and sexual minorities. == Background == In the past, purple dye was very expensive to produce, with the first compound used as one, Tyrian purple, being made from the mucus of a family of sea snail...
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@Mitch oh I never meant it like that
I would guess red is the most popular @tchrist
@M.A.R. I don't think Americans as a whole are much more unknowledgeable about their own geography than other people about their own countries.
Well, depends. Vatican, for example
Yeah
@Mitch No fair comparing against the Welsh or the Scots.
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50 is a lot more than 1
I learned that at school
I didn't
Nowhere did they explicitly say that
I was busy pitting triceratopses against T-rexes
@tchrist oh...those are hard. All the counties and islands
50≠1
Perthshire and isle of Skye. Those aren't actual places are they?
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The triceratopses won most of the time though
If superman fights a velociraptor and superman loses. Is the velociraptor too strong or is superman just too weak? Asking for a friend
Isle of Skye, by studio Ghibli
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> Keep in mind, also, that the Vatican City has 13 buildings in the city of Rome (including the Basilicas of Santa Maria Maggiore and St. John Lateran), as well as the Basilica of St. Mary of the Angels in Assisi and Castel Gandolfo (the summer residence of the popes). These are extraterritorial buildings: that is, when you enter those places you are not in Italy, but in the Vatican.
The Vatican archipelago
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Lies not far from the Isles of Babylon.
It's more a mansion
Off the coast of the democratic republic of central Africa.
@M.A.R. For in my mansions are many rooms. If it were not so, I should have told you.
@Goku a velociraptor is a clever girl, while superman is clearly not
Where does acceliraptor fit in?
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You can't have an I in that word.
Why not, sir?
Accelaraptor maybe
Acceleraptor
Acceléraptor
@user4539917 Because it's a first conjugation verb.
> ‖ accelerando [adv.]
† acˈcelerate [ppl. adj.]
accelerate [v.]
accelerated [ppl. adj.]
accelerated learning ← accelerated [ppl. adj.]
acceleratedly [adv.]
› accelerated motion ← accelerated
accelerating [ppl. adj.]
accelerating [vbl. n.]
› accelerating chamber, field, tube ← accelerating
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acceleration [n.]
accelerative [adj.]
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accelerator valve ← accelerator
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Thanks, sir.
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Why do directors spend huge money on a movie, but do not take the trouble to pick some great actors. With such mountains of money, why not have some connosseur to pick actors and tweak the script.
Produced by MidJourney AI
Some guy wrote that he is impressed by the progress made by MidJourney since September.
I've spent 1 hour on watching De Ruyter, and several hours on stopping it and reading Wikipedia and Wiktionary.
I wish they picked some more talented actors, or tweaked the script to make it kind of more quirky.
The real size of the Spanish naval flag at the Battle of Trafalgar.
> De Ruyter was desperate. When his second-in-command of the centre, Lieutenant-Admiral Aert Jansse van Nes visited him for a council of war, he exclaimed: "With seven or eight against the mass!" He then sagged, mumbling: "What's wrong with us? I wish I were dead." His close personal friend Van Nes tried to cheer him up, joking: "Me too. But you never die when you want to!" No sooner had both men left the cabin than the table they had been sitting at was smashed by a cannonball.
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Flag was hard. And neighboring countries.
Yeah, even though I knew the fragmented one, it was so small by comparison in the image that I doubted myself.
@CowperKettle None of those are garden-path sentences.
Except for the example in the prompt.
Yes ))
Oleh Hornykiewicz (17 November 1926 - 26 May 2020) was an Austrian biochemist. == Life == Oleh Hornykiewicz was born in 1926 in Sykhiw (a district of Lviv), then in Poland (now Ukraine). In 1951, he received his M.D. degree from the University of Vienna and joined the faculty of his alma mater the same year and worked there ever since. He also served for twenty years as chairman of the Institute of Biochemical Pharmacology. In 1967, he began a long association with the University of Toronto in Canada and, in 1992, he was named professor emeritus at that institution.One of his seminal acco...
The guy who first discovered that Parkinson's was due to a lack of dopamine, in 1960.
Was born in Lviv, now in Ukraine.
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From a great movie
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The spaceship on its homestretch to Earth, soon will splash down.
Noun: home stretch (plural home stretches)
  1. The final part of a racecourse from the last curve to the finish line.
  2. Synonym: home straight
  3. (figuratively, by extension) The final part of a distance or the final effort needed to finish.
  4. Synonym: home straight
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Is there a French word that sounds like buzh and means "to go away"?
@M.A.R. The moon has no atmosphere. Or anything else really. Other than rocks.
Hey, we could move to Mars instead! Mr. Musk will arrange it. Mars also has no atmosphere. Or anything else really. Other than rocks. So completely different.
@Goku Superman can't lose against a velociraptor unless it's a Kryptonian velociraptor.
Hope that helps.
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@CowperKettle Yes, that would be Bouge ! (or Bouge-toi de là !)
Bouger means "to move".
@CowperKettle buzh ouffe
@CowperKettle I don't think the director picks the actors, do they? And well, their priorities often have little overlap with ours
Or maybe you want Daniel Day Lewis in Transformers 6?
@jlliagre Thank you!
The woman said "Je bouger quand tu ouvriras la porte", and I tried to reconstruct it using GoogleTranslate ))
Based on English subtitles.
@M.A.R. Oh, I did not know there was the 6th movie already
Sir Daniel Michael Blake Day-Lewis (born 29 April 1957) is an English retired actor. Often described as one of the preeminent actors of his generation, he received numerous accolades throughout his career which spanned over four decades, including three Academy Awards for Best Actor, making him the first and only actor to have three wins in that category, and the third male actor to win three competitive Academy Awards for acting, the sixth performer overall. Additionally, he has received four British Academy Film Awards, three Screen Actors Guild Awards and two Golden Globe Awards. In 2014, Day...
English has bougie, but it's a thing used in medicine to gain access to a body cavity.
@CowperKettle There isn't, but now if I met a genie I would ask for a muppets movie with Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and Daniel Day Lewis, directed by Francis Ford Coppola
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@CowperKettle The verb need to be conjugated, probably Je bougerai quand tu ouvriras la porte (I'll move when you open the door).
Present is also possible: Je bouge quand tu ouvres la porte.
@M.A.R. Marlon Brando is dead.
@FaheemMitha that's where the genie magic comes into play
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@JohnLawler I wonder if you could please post an answer for us. It doesn't have to be long and involved, just the basics like you've already outlined in comments. Your point that it’s not just [ej] and [ow] but all the tense vowels that have semi-consonantal off-glides including [ij] and [uw] is an important one. Why this key point is so often lost or omitted from such most presentations, I have no idea. It explains pre-L/R breaking and much more. I'd really love to see this question answered. — tchrist ♦ 15 hours ago
I've had to bounty it.
So much confusion about this matter!
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@M.A.R. That would be one powerful genie. Also, I wonder how Mr. Brando would feel about being brought back to life.
Was just watching "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" after many years.
I really think that Gandalf's action with regard to Bilbo were extremely irresponsible. He could have easily been killed 10 times earlier.
Plus one has to wonder what Bilbo was thinking as well.
And really the first chapter practically qualifies as a home invasion. An unexpected party, my foot. I think I first read "The Hobbit" when I was around 8. I guess one reads these things differently as one grows older.
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@FaheemMitha it is, it's 75 million kilometers away instead of 0.384 million kilometers
Oh I get it. It's actually a metaphor for how much billionaires want to be away from common filthy folks
@FaheemMitha maybe the chat's Tolkienverse gurus can answer that satisfactorily, but it seems to boil down to either of two things, or both: Some magical power thingy allowed Gandalf to predict that Bilbo will survive, or that his life was a risk worth taking as Gandalf wanted Erebor to be definitely owned by allies in the upcoming war against Mordor
Worth pointing out that the embellishments in the movies have dramatically increased the intensity of the dangers Bilbo faces, so much that his survival feels like one miracle after another
For example, Azog has not survived somehow after all these years. There was an orc by that name that fought dwarves in Khazad-dum, but he was indeed slain by Thorin and Bilbo for example, does not face down an orc warlord and his hellhound and live
@M.A.R. Stupid Hollywood.
@M.A.R. Which would make Mars a much better choice, of course.
@M.A.R. Yes, a magical thingy is implied, but not explicitly stated. But Bilbo's life wasn't Gandalf's to gamble with, Erebor or not. In the real world someone without an relevant training and experience would summarily die under such conditions.
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Or Bilbo personally does not dodge one Smaug firestorm after another
@M.A.R. Yes, I'm aware of the differences between the movies and the book. But even in the book Bilbo has it pretty rough. He receives the scorn and contempt of the dwarves, and has the dubious pleasure of chatting with a gigantic fire-breathing monster. Among other things.
@Cerberus hey sometimes I do have a hankering for some Fahrenheit 451-style loudness
It also just strikes me unlikely that someone who has basically spent his whole life with his feet up, except when he was cooking, perhaps, should prove so competent in multiple hair-raising crises.
He repeatedly saves the dwarves' bacon, time and again. I'm talking about the book here.
Well, he's always cheating
And it also seems remarkable that one single person would have so much food, but I think I've said that before. Perhaps he was a very social person and had lots of dinner parties. Though probably not with dwarves.
19:28
So that's the morale of the story
@M.A.R. He has the presence of mind to cheat. Personally, I'd be frozen in terror. Did you have particular examples in mind? Admittedly he does have the assistance of a majic invisibility granting ring.
It's like if I decided to take up mountain climbing, and think - hey, let me just trot up Everest. I'd just fall into some crevice and die.
@M.A.R. You probably mean "moral".
@FaheemMitha right
I'm pretty tired
@FaheemMitha well I think in the book breaking them out of the wood elves' prison was the only time Bilbo clearly and singlehandedly saved them all
@M.A.R. I thought there were more events than that. But it's been a while since I read the book.
With the spiders, he also cheated, but he again wouldn't have stood a chance by himself beyond the headstart
@M.A.R. Cheated how?
19:34
@FaheemMitha again the ring
@M.A.R. Ah, yes. The ring.
Even if I was invisible, I wouldn't stand against giant spiders though. I would run away.
Well, having established that he isn't superhu . . . superhobbit in the books, I think I can suspend my disbelief at quite a few points
And besides, Hobbits aren't just tiny humans, they supposedly do possess some enhanced abilities, though whether that extends beyond stealth I dunno
Assuming I was living in a world where giant spiders existed, that is. Not a pleasant idea. But it seems to me that a giant spider wouldn't be able to stand upright in Earth's gravity, so we are talking about a different planet with different gravity.
@M.A.R. Nerves of steel being among them, apparently.
@FaheemMitha I read somewhere that their exoskeleton is the most important limiter of their size
Prehistoric scorpions were 2 meters long I think
Predating the dinosaurs
@M.A.R. That applies to all arthropods, I think?
Heat is the issue.
19:43
@M.A.R. What kind of exoskeleton do spiders have?
Weight would be the main issue, of course.
That large scorpion must have been aquatic.
@M.A.R. I wasn't aware there were prehistoric scorpions. Are there fossils?
Just as we still have enormous crabs.
I doubt whether such a large body could exist outside the water without overheating.
 
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AI's Jurassic Park moment - by Gary Markus
> Marcus’ early work[6] focused on why children produce overregularizations, such as "breaked" and "goed", as a test case for the nature of mental rules.
> Gary Markus: "And Stack Overflow is a canary in a coal mine. They may be able to get their users to stop voluntarily; programmers, by and large, are not malicious, and perhaps can be coaxed to stop fooling around. But Stack Overflow is not Twitter, Facebook, or the web at large."

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