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3:13 PM
What happened to bull @Mitch.
 
@CowperKettle Word of the day 2500 years ago: daimonion
> In 399 BCE, Socrates was tried and executed in Athens on the charge of "impiety." His charges included the "introduction of new deities" and "not believing in the gods of the state," because he publicly claimed that he was periodically and personally receiving a "divine sign," or daimonion, that directed him in various actions. We found textual evidence that his daimonion was probably a simple partial seizure (SPS) of temporal lobe origin.
@Vikas 1) my icon was from Gravatar 2) Word Press took over Gravatar 3) Someone, not I, changed my picture on Gravatar 4) People seemed to like that new picture a little too much 5) and its aspect ratio broke my eyes.
So I changed it
I'd prefer one with more color, but there it is.
@CowperKettle Fashionable to have or fashionable to diagnose?
Self diagnosis seems to be fashionable nowadays.
Like multiple personality disorder.
@CowperKettle also 'daemons' in The Golden Compass
 
@CowperKettle Quite possibly!
Like speaking in tongues or mass hysteria.
 
@CowperKettle There have been a few movies where the plot is hinged on DID: The Three faces of Eve, Nurse Betty, United States of Tara (countless others)
Like time travel, it's a wild idea that allows wish fulfillment.
To me it sounds like an Instagram trend among teenagers ('oh today I'm personality X')
@CowperKettle Without knowing what encopresis is, I'd watch that movie
checks on what encopresis really is
On second thought, I don't think I'll be watching that movie
ha
There -is- a bed wetting movie
@CowperKettle That sounds like he developed a poor rhythm of running.
checks what that really is
 
3:32 PM
How is your coprolalia these days?
 
I'm going to stop checking these things
 
This one you can check safely.
Lalia is like saying la la.
Basically blabbering.
Fun fact: ordure is from Latin horridus.
 
@Cerberus Quelle horreur!
@Cerberus I will not take that bait
@CowperKettle That's a Gõdelian argument
 
> noun Psychiatry.
the obsessive use of scatological language.

Origin of coprolalia
copro- + -lalia
> <New Latin <Greek laliá talking, chatter, equivalent to lal(eîn) to chatter, babble + -ia-ia
 
The other side of that argument is if we were complex enough (had the tools) to understand our own brain, we'd be too complex to understand.
I'm not sure that it follows.
 
3:40 PM
Yes.
 
I'm going to lecture about that now, because I have more important things to do that I will more than happy to avoid by talking about other things.
 
Just so, we cannot fully understand the universe, for to understand every little bit of it would mean to at least make a mental image or computer simulation of it, but there aren't enough particles to do so. And, even if there were, the simulation would have to include itself, too.
 
In mathematical logic, Gõdel's 1st incompleteness theorem says that any logical system that is 'strong' enough (arithmetic with +, *, variables, equality, there exists, for all, and classical logic) then it can't prove that it is itself consistent.
 
Complicated.
 
Some shorten this to say "There are some mathematical systems where you can't prove that it is true" but that is paradoxical and somewhat meaningless as it stands.
The (logical) theorem really shows that there are systems where 'truth' is not the same as 'provability' (ie there can be theorems that are true in a system but not provable -within- the system).
That's sort of the 'brain complex enough to understand itself would be too complex to understand itself'
The usual proof of godel's theorem is setting up a kind of liar's paradox: taking a system (that includes arithmetic) and developing a way to talk about provability -within- that system, and then creating a statement in that system that says "This theorem is not provable in this system".
something like that
surely messed up some details.
of course, this whole thing -is- a theorem.
just not within the system that is being discussed within the theorem
that's why it is confusing
also hyped up because it's pretty crazy sounding
While both very important for the subfield of logic within mathematics, it has had almost no affect on trends outside of logic, except maybe theoretical computer science.
 
4:13 PM
> In modern usage, batoni (ბატონი) is an honorific used for a man, an equivalent of both Mr. and sir.
> In Georgian feudal hierarchy, "batoni" may denote the supreme suzerain (i.e., monarch), seigneur, or any secular or clerical who owned qma, i.e., "slave" or "serf".
 
4:43 PM
@CowperKettle fashionable? That's an odd adjective to use
@Mitch well I'll be honest, you look boring
Without zooming in, it looks like a picture of a washing machine or a fridge
 
But, oh, when you zoom in.
 
 
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6:58 PM
@M.A.R. when you zoom out it looks like a picture of washing machine that has been through a washing machine.
when you zoom in it looks like that cat has been through a washing machine.
 
7:16 PM
@Mitch well all I'm saying is you've drained quite some color from the chat right now
Color the cat devilish red or something
 
@M.A.R. Why don't -you- talk to the cat about that.
 
It's missing
 
It's right there
I'm looking at it
 
I can't find it
Where
Cowp knows the name of my condition
 
7:30 PM
@Mitch Apparently dog owners are happier than cat owners. And people with no cats are happier than cat owners.
 
7:45 PM
> CNN: The study, which published Wednesday in the journal Nature, found that dinosaurs' metabolic rates were typically high and in many cases higher than modern mammals -- which typically have a body temperature of around 37 degrees Celsius (98.6 degrees Fahrenheit) -- and more like birds, which have average body temperatures of around 42 degrees Celsius (107.6 degrees Fahrenheit).
Innumeracy strikes again! You can be sure that around 2.495 CNN science reporter heads will roll because of these glaring errors.
 
And Gov. Abbott says this sort of thing can't be tolerated. Meanwhile, anyone can buy and carry an assault rifle anywhere. Thanks, Abbott.
> 30 shootings so far at K-12 schools so far in 2022
So that's more than one per week this year. Doesn't anybody care?
If these were abortions, the Republicans would care plenty. They'd make laws against it. But these are just our precious already-born children. So fuck 'em, right? Once they're born, they're on their own.
What a crazy, fucked-up world we have made for ourselves.
I hate this so much.
 
8:39 PM
> Precisely because of such people, the United States actually is at risk of civil war — more than at any point in recent history. As I have noted, the Trump presidency and the Capitol insurrection caused the country to lose its status as a “full democracy” for the first time since 1800, according to an index used by the CIA to track instability and political violence abroad. A partial democracy, which the United States now is, faces three times the risk of falling into civil war.
[Dana Milbank, Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/24/trump-picks-primaries-perdue
 
I do not think there is any risk of the army splitting up and either part battling the other.
 
No, but the terms of battle would change. The white supremacist "armies" would fight a terror war, an asymmetrical conflict, which is even now in motion. See the race-motivated slaughter in Buffalo, NY. This stems from the racist "replacement theory," which posits that other races have been promoted in the US in order to replace the white race.
 
Would it be a civil war?
 
It depends on how you define that term.
But yeah, I think you could call it that.
It wouldn't be the same as the one 160 years ago, because weapons and tactics have changed. But it would be Americans fighting Americans, that's for sure.
 
People fight each other all the time, in every country, don't they?
What defines a war?
And I don't mean a metaphorical war, but a real war.
 
8:54 PM
I guess it's a matter of degree, not necessarily kind.
Consider that the taking of the Harpers Ferry armory in 1859 by John Brown and 21 followers could be seen as the first shots of the US Civil War.
> On October 16, 1859, the abolitionist John Brown led a group of 22 men (counting himself) in a raid on the arsenal. Five of the men were black: three free black men, one freed slave, and one fugitive slave. Brown attacked and captured several buildings, hoping to secure the weapons depot and arm the slaves, starting a revolt across the South.
> U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Robert E. Lee was found on leave at his home in nearby Arlington, and he was assigned as commander, along with Lt. J. E. B. Stuart as his aide-de-camp. Lee led the unit in civilian clothes, as none of his uniforms were available. The contingent arrived by train on October 18, and after negotiations failed, they stormed the fire house and captured most of the raiders, killing a few and suffering a single casualty. Lee submitted a report on October 19.
 
I think you'll still have to decide what you call a war and why.
Otherwise, it makes little sense to talk about a civil war and assign significance to the statement.
Hmm that's probably a pleonasm.
 
That's true of any term. One person's war is another's frolic, perhaps.
One thing I will say is that I haven't seen this country so divided since the '60s during the Vietnam War.
That alarms me.
 
@Robusto In such cases some kind of definition or at the very least a clarification is needed for it to have significance.
@Robusto That I'll believe.
 
9:15 PM
Only the actual military should be allowed to possess, let alone use, weapons of war. That we pretend otherwise is our doom.
 
@tchrist becausethey didn't round up the Fahrenheit figures?
Crap, I might be innumerate
 
@M.A.R. Kind of. It's a problem with significant digits.
 
Yeah that
 
You aren't allowed to have more significant digits after a conversion than before.
 
Unless the digits come from a different source.
 
9:18 PM
There's no possible way that "around a two-significant-digit number" should ever be able to yield a precise four-significant-digit number. That's nuts.
 
I'm sure everyone diligently forgets about significant figures until they need them again
 
Call the ambulance, my temperature is 97.7 I must be dying.
97 to 99 is normal
Not 98.6
Plus that's too high anyway.
Stups.
 
We could be here all day picking up what CNN gets scientifically and mathematically wrong, or what Fox gets right
 
I find that unlikely.
The only way that can be true is if we get stuck on CNN.
It won't take that long to figure out what Fox gets right.
 
Well on one out of every 100 issue or so, their correlation-causation BS might be true
 
9:21 PM
They serve a different master.
Their goals are to inflame not to inform.
 
Is Tucker still licking Putin's golf shoes or have they moved on to favorite topics like how black people are gay or something
Omar Little was both. QED
 
Just because his **** tastes like **** doesn't mean he's gay.
Because O'mar is a fine Irish name.
 
So life moves on
 
Oh Mary, Oh Malley.
 
@tchrist it's MAR with an ether
 
9:24 PM
No Reilly.
@M.A.R. He's been inspecting the doghouse for a day or two until the hullabaloo blows over.
 
Aha, now I get what John C Reilly means
 
C is in the middle of Malcolm in the Middle of C.
261.6 hz.
Unless you're hard of hearing. Then it doesn't hurt at all.
 
WHAT DID HE SAY
 
That's what she said, you harridan you.
 
Okay, so I'm confused. The frequency doesn't have much to do with how much a note will hurt, does it?
The intensity is important
Or does this frequency refer to something else?
I'm probably the most music illiterate person in this chat and it shows
 
9:34 PM
@tchrist The old joke went like this: "How can you tell if a client is gay? Because his dick tastes like shit."
@M.A.R. So you got The Wire in your country?
 
@Robusto But I didn't write that. It's too crude. The stars got in my eyes.
 
@Robusto on my HDD sure, but a country is too vast an area
 
And it's a rather ****** joke to make about a ***** man.
 
@M.A.R. Intensity plus frequency. Shrill frequencies are more painful.
 
@Robusto yeah but still
IIRc near 1000 Hz is where our ears are the most sensitive
@tchrist I'm starting to guess your password
 
9:37 PM
@M.A.R. Or maybe closer to double that. I found it very painful to practice the flute in the altissimo range. And I had to wear earplugs to practice the piccolo at all.
 
If you're wondering about the level of censorship on TV, well, today Prisoners was on, surprisingly not butchered to the point of being nonsensical, but I was very very surprised when three seconds of showing Hugh Jackman drinking was not censored
 
Didn't that make you want to run right out and drink alcohol?
I mean, Hugh Jackman was doing it, so ...
 
Obviously, if we see people drinking on TV, everyone would buy and drink gallons of alcohol and the stripper clubs would reopen
It was a huge risk they took.
 
And people would be mocking the Quran.
Drunk people would be mocking it.
 
Of course, all the awesome dialog about "waging war on God" was never translated or dubbed
But I was duly shocked they didn't play jazz music from a sitcom over murder scenes
@Robusto proven: Alcohol is Iblis piss
 
9:42 PM
So we're still talking about assault rifles?
 
You must be talking about Van Gogh. He is your ***** man.
Or ...
 
@Robusto Today's Wordle isn't giving me any hints. "He's your Iblis man" wait, nope.
Oh, not a bad idea. Make a cloze deletion word game. Call it Cuddle or something
Curdle
 
Curdle? Or Yodel?
We have the curd/yoghurt controversy, you know.
 
Lactose intolerance.
 
That's racist.
The Lacts are fine people.
 
9:47 PM
Not if it's black sheep's milk it isn't.
 
You caucasians are very tolerant and progressive towards dairy, no?
 
I personally enjoy dairy very much.
 
You're a caucasian too kiddo.
It says so in the Book of Racismists.
I drink milk every day of my life.
 
I might be related to Genghis
@Robusto I can't live without yogurt
 
Pig in a blanket?
 
9:49 PM
My wife is racially Japanese, and her family doesn't really drink milk or eat cheese. I make up for all of them.
 
Changelings-R-Us, 100% guaranteed stork deliverancing.
 
"There's a starman waiting in the sky / He'd like to come and meet us but he thinks he'd blow our minds"
 
@tchrist well what I'm saying is the rates are 0-10% in the UK and above 60% in Turkey
 
@M.A.R. That's why we lived.
 
Speaking of my wife, I'm making her a b'day dinner, so I will leave this discussion in your capable hands.
 
9:51 PM
Not Genghis, lactose intolerance, haha
 
Danes, too. Norse people who couldn't drink milk got eliminated from the ice cream gene pool.
 
Ice cream doesn't count
It's just an oil in water emulsion of fat
And not dairy fat
 
Doesn't sound quite kosher to me.
I mean cricket.
Not that crickets are kosher.
Unless they're locusts.
Honey locusts are sweet.
 
They're really adorable
But my ice cream is off limits
 
Because it's 120 degrees there?
 
9:55 PM
That's racist
You're thinking of Ahvaz to the south
 
If the kitchen's too hot, stay out of the frying pan.
 
Tabriz usually ranges from -15 to +31 degrees Celsius throughout the year
 
Except for the case of Baked Alaska. That's allowed.
 
Every one of us Iranians is a scientist which is why we don't use laymen units like Fahrenheit
@tchrist that was not in Malcolm in the middle so I have no idea what it is
 
It's hard to fit on the clock otherwise. Four times your -15 degrees is an hour lost.
 
9:58 PM
. . . My arteries just clogged
 
Too much goat.
 
That looks everything unlike an omelet
 
@M.A.R. C'est une omelette norvégienne.
 
Or omelette
The only omelette I know has tomatoes and eggs in it
It is unnatural otherwise.
 
All you need for an omelette is eggs and salt, potatoes and onions, and olive oil.
All else is a condiment.
You want fry sauce with that?
 
10:02 PM
Potatoes? Oh we call that something else
So the European word for it is omelet. Okay. We creatively call it 'yeralma-yomorta' 'potato and egg'
 
Spanish omelette or Spanish tortilla is a traditional dish from Spain. Celebrated as a national dish by Spaniards, it is an essential part of the Spanish cuisine. It is an omelette made with eggs and potatoes, optionally including onion. It is often served at room temperature as a tapa. It is commonly known in Spanish-speaking countries as tortilla de patatas, tortilla de papas, tortilla española. == History == The first reference to the tortilla in Spanish is found in a Navarrese document, as an anonymous "Mousehole's memorial" addressed to the Navarra region's court in 1817. It explains the...
 
With spearmint, butter or maybe mayo
@tchrist well we don't make our food look like The Thing, so there is that
 
Hardtack (or hard tack) is a simple type of dense biscuit or cracker made from flour, water, and sometimes salt. Hardtack is inexpensive and long-lasting. It is used for sustenance in the absence of perishable foods, commonly during long sea voyages, land migrations, and military campaigns. Along with salt pork, hardtack was a standard ration for many militaries and navies from the 17th through the early 20th centuries. == Etymology == The name is derived from "tack", the British sailor slang for food. It is known by other names including brewis (possibly a cognate with "brose"), cabin bread, pilot...
 
I forgot what our sailors used
But I'm sure it looked just as dehydrating
 
Cabin boys.
Goes better with Fry Sauce, you betcha.
I bet you didn't know that Stephen Fry spent time in Utah. See Moab is My Washpot.
 
10:08 PM
@tchrist oh apparently the Greeks (or the Macedonians) brought homosexual practices to the Persian empire
 
What, they didn't know about it before that? I find that hard to believe. The Persian Boy would never lie to me.
 
@tchrist maybe did it in secret. As far as I can tell publicly everyone was busy seething at the aristocracy, which is maybe part of the reason Ashkanis so easily drew them out
Ah, what's the English word for them
 
Butt plugs?
 
Nailed it
> The Parthian Empire, also known as the Arsacid Empire, was a major Iranian political and cultural power in ancient Iran from 247 BC to 224 AD.
Ouch.
You conquer half the world and they call you arsacid
 
That's because they hate spiders.
Oh Parthia Parthia Parthia.
The Roman–Parthian Wars (54 BC – 217 AD) were a series of conflicts between the Parthian Empire and the Roman Republic and Roman Empire. It was the first series of conflicts in what would be 682 years of Roman–Persian Wars. Battles between the Parthian Empire and the Roman Republic began in 54 BC. This first incursion against Parthia was repulsed, notably at the Battle of Carrhae (53 BC). During the Roman Liberators' civil war of the 1st Century BC, the Parthians actively supported Brutus and Cassius, invading Syria, and gaining territories in the Levant. However, the conclusion of the second...
Not even the wealth of a Crassus could save Rome from ignominy.
Then there was the whole Brutus and Cassius bit. Piece of work, those Parthian snots.
You'd have no flying carpets without Parthian knots, you know.
 
10:32 PM
> Women have had the legal right to serve in the Russian Armed Forces throughout the post Cold War period. In 2002, 10% of the Russian armed forces (100,000 of a total active strength of 988,100) were women.
 
11:03 PM
Wordle 341 3/6

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11:59 PM
Birds of a feather flock together,
Barbs of a feather lock together,
Sheep with a wether flock together,
Boats on a tether dock together,
Bands on the heather rock together,
Girls in bad weather walk together,
Boys all in leather hawk together:
Sont les mots qui vont très bien ensemble.
 
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