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@Mitch okay well it makes a lot of sense for acute, lethal diseases or wars. For most people that don't smoke or drink too much, it's chronic coagulation disorders or obesity-related problems that lower life expectancy, and they are treated with almost always low- or moderate-cost therapies over a span of decades (only hospitalizations would cost a lot). But smoking often causes chronic conditions as well: Increases the incidence rate of several cancers, increases organ damage, increases
. . . the rate of asthma and COPD etc. These often require moderate- or high-cost chronic treatment, so it doesn't really follow that smoking would reduce costs.
Though of course one needs to do the math. I'm not One, Jet Li is.
 
@M.A.R. That is also what I read: that smokers aren't necessarily cheap qua healthcare. But it was very hard to really calculate, so it is uncertain whether or not they are cheaper and by how much.
 
@Mitch You were foaming?
@Mitch Hmm.
Not simple, I believe you!
 
@Cerberus I ain't some macchiato frappacino whatever those frothy milk coffee drinks are.
frappocino?
frappucino!
 
No idea.
 
I looked it up. two p's 1 u two c's
frappuccino
 
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