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Snow on the Sangre de Cristo Mountains today. Always a good sign in January.
 
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@Mitch I thought it was written in some ancient language
In childhood, I thought the whole book was kind of dictaed by God to somebody and written down.
I did not care much to investigate, so that's what I imagined.
03:04
@CowperKettle wait... That's -not- how it happened?
We were taught in school that it was all invented by shamans in order to fool people.
Later we were taught in school that "you are free to think as you wish".
But really o think that's not what Christians believe exactly, more something like God something something guided something their hand.
> Inscrutable His ways are, and immune
To catechism by a mind too strewn
With petty cares to slightly understand
What awful brain compels His awful hand.
But in Islam I think they believe the Koran was definitely dictated by God... Or was it the angel Gabriel? Cripes I'm sure someone would know
@CowperKettle probably with unexpected outcomes, telling kids that
And Mormons believe that their book was shipped from above on golden plates
03:10
And found in the woods, buried
Moroni ( mər-OH-ny) is a city in Sanpete County, Utah, United States. The population was 1,423 at the 2010 census. == Name == The city is named after Moroni, a prophet in the beliefs of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons). == History == Moroni, Utah was founded by George Washington Bradley in 1859. That same year George Washington Bradley became the bishop of Moroni and held that position for 18 years. == Geography == According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 1.1 square miles (2.8 km2), all land. === Climate === This climatic ...
I wonder if locals joke of themselves as being "moronic"
A beautiful view for running.
Their demonym is 'Morons'
03:30
A runner in Minsk, capital of Belarus, has run this route on Strava.
If someone squeels on him, he'll get months or years behind bars.
He titled it "A potato in a parade dress jacket", a culinary term for potato boiled with its skin on.
But also a quip on Lukashenko.
Who has been called the Potato Fuhrer.
Since Belarus is the land of potatoes.
Hmm.
It's always wise to stay anonymous online.
I think you mean 'mmm'
Because potatoes
I know you guys are already working on tomorrow, but I had rice for dinner and then as a late snack, more rice
Mmmmmm
I mean if I had had potatoes I'd probably have said the same thing
@CowperKettle is that a common saying about Lukashenko?
Oh forget it you said potato fuhrer
Those Strava route-pictures seem like a lot of trouble to go to to get the picture right
I mean it's hard enough just running or biking a straight route
Apropos of other conversations, last night here it was...
-10C all night
But tomorrow day it might be 10C
Which is to say I can't really complain
But I probably will anyway
@Mitch Yes, you can google for "Potato Fuhrer" or картофель-фюрер
Or картофельный фюрер
They also call him tarakan, cockroach, for his moustache.
While his friend Putin is called mol', moth, since that was one of his alleged nicknames years ago, for his colorless character
Hence this Russian meme, in which a cockroach says to a moth, "Volodya, give me some money"
Volodia is a hypochoristic for Vladimir.
04:06
@Mitch What with?
04:18
@Cerberus chicken and kale and safron
Sounds boring but it was the opposite
 
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09:07
-16°С
I was running in a ski mask, but had to take it off, because it became all fogged over.
Maybe I should take some granules of kitty litter and put them somehow inside the ski mask. They are gigroscopic and might take in all the vapor that comes from the face during a run.
They are made of silica gel
Some people say you should take a bar of soap and kind of spread a film of soap over the surface of the mask.
09:34
Oh, turns out there are electrically heated goggles available, 509 Ignite, at 15 000 rubles. Expensive but comfy.
10:31
Happy new year, you orrible lot
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10:45
@MattE.Эллен Happy New 2022!
11:01
Thanks :D
 
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I just checked
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Q: 2021: a year in closing

Nicolas ChabanovskyI am thrilled to share that this year we are continuing Shog9’s tradition of sharing numbers on closed posts across the network. Please welcome stats that highlight how many questions were closed on different Stack Exchange sites in 2021: Site Asked AskedAndClosed PercentAskedAndClosed All Cl...

and we take bronze for percentage of questions asked and closed over the year
better luck next year. Maybe Network Engineering was a blip?
oh,no, they were similarly high last year
we're a lot higher than last year
Perhaps, covid influenced the results.
I think it's more likely that going from a 5 to 3 close vote threshold did the trick.
Right.
I read in the news London broke the all time record for teenage stabbing deaths in 2021.
we had ~4000 fewer questions asked this year, but about the same number of questions closed (~600 more, so a 10% increase).
so that's the real culprit
🧐 hmm
13:11
@anonymous yes very sad.In March 2019 to March 2020 in England and wales there were 647 total homicides, so 30 from teen stabbing seems like a lot. Unlike guns (on the whole), there are legitimate reasons for owning knives, so making them difficult to come by would seem undoable, so we'll have to rely on people becoming less violent...
Is there a "length of the blade" limit law?
For example, you can't carry a knife with a blade longer than six inches.
A switchblade (shortened switch, but also known as an automatic knife, pushbutton knife, ejector knife, spring knife (Sprenger, Springer), flick knife, or flick blade) is a type of knife with a sliding blade contained in the handle which is extended automatically by a spring when a button, lever, or switch on the handle or bolster is activated. Most switchblade designs incorporate a locking blade, in which the blade is locked against closure when the blade is extended to the fully opened position. It is unlocked by a mechanism that allows the blade to be folded and locked in the closed position...
Looks like they're making a comeback.
13:28
@anonymous maybe. I don't know. I think there's a law about carrying unpackaged knives?
> [it is illegal to] carry any knife in public without good reason, unless it has a manual folding blade less than 3 inches long
According to wikipedia, a lot of counties have liberal laws concerning knives.
Thanks, that link was very helpful.
you're welcome
on a slightly lighter note, how's the fire situation @tchrist
13:57
@MattE.Эллен 60% is bronze? Wow...that's uptight man
But Interpersonal Skills... it looks like they need to...what's the phrasing... need to eat their own dogfood?
@Mitch I think the troubling thing is that we've had 4595 fewer questions in 2021 than 2020. unless we've put off the "right" people?
2020 was already down 2136 on 2019
at this pace we'll only have 3000 questions this year
14:18
@MattE.Эллен Too many SE sites for them not to furnish a sortable table, methinks.
@Robusto yeah. I assume they're limited by the markdown implementation
They could link to somewhere else.
I'm reading a twitter feed of a Russian autopsy specialist. Today he performed an autopsy of a car crash victim, a Russian businessman survived by his family, and discovered that the man lacked half of his brain. There was an air-filled cavity instead of half the brain.
Oh, they have CSV. I finally finished scrolling down to the bottom of that post.
14:28
I wonder what the prevalence is of having just a single hemisphere from birth.
@MattE.Эллен Maybe we've successfully answered all questions?
@Mitch yes. that's it. we now have the ultimate collection of English language experts
@CowperKettle There needs to be a Mark Twain or Will Rogers joke made out of this.
something something Congress something something idiots something but I repeat myself
@MattE.Эллен Exactly. All questions answered correctly for reference and all new questions are duplicates or migrated to Interpersonal Skills and Network Solutions
@Mitch perfection
14:46
Sometimes kids with intractable epilepsy get half of their brain removed, and surprisingly they go on to live full lives, and their cognition remains intact.
wow
that's some resilience
There is a revolution in Kazakhstan. The corrupt ruler who ruled the country since 1989 has just flown abroad "for receiving medical care". But his appointee still remains in power, and if the Kazakhs are haphazard, may yet quench the revolt in people's blood. People's protests were quashed harshly there in 1986 and in 2011, with hundreds of innocent people shot.
I hope they go on fighting and remove all possible relatives and appointees of the Soviet-installed ruler.
This is the only way, or there will be metastases.
It's like cancer, you must remove and debridle every affected parts.
The ruler's statues are right now being demolished. There are videos online.
Even if the revolution is finally quenched, I'm happy that at least they tried.
Putin's media are already squealing how the treacherous West has instigated all this.
Well, not the central media, but some of Putin's propagandists.
The Kremlin is in a slight shock right now, and has not prepared a full list of media explanations to peddle to Russians.
They say that 2 hours ago the Internet started to be shut down in major cities inside Kazakhstan.
Their authorities were not prepared, unlike Putin, who rigged a country-wide system last year for shutting down the entire "external Internet", and this system was even tested.
Looks like slightly more than half.
8 minutes ago, the airport in Kazakhstan's second-largest city was captured by the protesters. I pray that they don't stop.
If the Daily Mail is to be believed.
14:56
Yes, such cases are described in literature, but seem to be rare. And it amazes neuroscientists that the brain remains fully functional )))
Even in the majority-Russian cities of Northern Kazakhstan, clashes started with the police. Russian-dominated cities were the most calm and pliant.
Belarusian president Lukashenko showed that in case of revolution, one must press until the dictator is either dead or behind bars. There is no compromise.
Thus far, no government buildings were captured in the capital Nusultan.
That's bad.
Former president's daughter fled on her private jet.
> He successfully finished school, and went to university where he got a degree in engineering.

He served in the Soviet army as a conscript, then as an engineer at a factory before retiring.
2 years ago there was a big journalist investigation showing that the Nazarbayev family has amassed at least one billion dollars worth of property in the USA and Europe.
They are literally robbing their own people.
@Cerberus Nice ))
@CowperKettle Hmm is it a small, newly built city? Or an existing, relabelled city?
We shall see what happens in Kazakhstan.
@Cerberus Yes, Nursultan was only built as a capital in the 1990s
Is it large now, or still small?
15:03
While the old capital was in the very south of the country, closer to east.
@Cerberus It has grown large
OK too bad.
Nur-Sultan (; Kazakh pronunciation: [nʊɾ sʊltɑn]; Kazakh: Нұр-Сұлтан, romanized: Nūr-Sūltan; Russian: Нур-Султан), formerly known as Akmolinsk (Russian: Акмолинск, romanized: Akmolinsk), Tselinograd (Russian: Целиногра́д), and Astana (Kazakh pronunciation: [ɑstɑnɑ] (listen), Cyrillic: Астана), is the capital city of Kazakhstan. The city acquired its present name on March 23, 2019, following a unanimous vote in Kazakhstan's parliament. It was named after former Kazakh president Nursultan Nazarbayev.The city lies on the banks of the Ishim River in the north-central part of Kazakhstan, within the...
1 200 000 people
The president brought the capital closer to Russia for fear that the Russian-dominated ethnic regions of the north become separated.
Makes sense.
Russian nationalists have whined for decades about how Northern Kazakhstan is really Russia.
If e.g. Naypyidaw remained uncaptured by revolutionaries, but the rest of the country was, then it might not matter. But it might matter more in the case of Nur-Sultan.
15:05
Even Alexander Solzhenitsyn was bitter in the early 1990s that a big part of historical Russia ended up as part of Kazakhstan.
Perhaps the country could be split in twain?
Nur-Sultan going to Russia.
Perhaps Ukraine should invade the other half.
My nephew-half-removed has a wife who comes from a Russian family from Kazakhstan. After 1991's dissolution of the USSR, local nationalists (Kazakhs) oppressed enthic Russians, and many fled.
Many enthic Russians were forced to flee from Central Asia then.
I don't remember the last time Central Asia was stable.
Some left their flats, selling them for a couple of bucks.
Central Asia is quite stable. For instance, Uzbekistan has a huge population and a very oppressive regime, like the Soviet regime of the 1950s I'd say.
People from Uzbekistan mind their words then they make calls to Uzbekistan to talk with their family.
Secret services are tapping calls.
Well, it split off from the Soviet Union only a few decades ago.
How stable is it really?
15:08
Uzbekistan was always oppressive, even before Russia captured it in the 19th century. There were slave markets.
Local rulers were harsh.
@Cerberus Who knows? The world is changing, and maybe all the new technology and rising living standards will start to etch away at all this oppressiveness.
Or make it harsher.
Hard to predict.
Me and my dad visited Uzbekistan at the very end of Perestroika, in the USSR.
To play at an all-Soviet tennish championship for amateur players.
And I was amazed that all the Soviet slogans were still in their place on buildings.
In Siberia, it was all "fuck the Party", freedom of the press etc.
In Uzbekistan, it seemed like Perestroika never started.
Hmm interesting.
Who knows, indeed.
I remember a big slogan saying Lenin Uchum, Partiya Uchum on the building next to the hotel.
I don't know what "uchum" means in Uzbek.
And the fact that were was food on every corner.
You could buy shish-kebab, a kind of pieces of meat on a skewer, just anywhere and eat it with bread.
In Siberia food was becoming scarce.
And you could walk in a store and buy chocolate, which had vanished from stores in Siberia in about 1987.
Like a different country.
In 1986, the Communisty Party decided to speed up the economy by making it part "market", but only part-way. Local store authorities were given partial freedom where to how to sell things, and local people were given freedom to open commercial stores.
It was a poor decision. A lot of foodstuffs instantly vanished from state stores and appeared inside commercial stores at sky-high prices.
There was no experience on introducing market reforms into a totally command-based economy.
In the times of Joseph Stalin, the economy was partially free. There were commerical companies numbering up to several dozen people, and commercial stores.
Nikita Khrushchev cracked down on this all.
But it proved very hard to loosen up the system and re-introduce such stores and such companies.
Especially because in parallel the state loosened up the repressive apparatus. Unlike in Stalin's times, when NKVD or KGB could just close a commercial company and sent anybody to labor camps.
@Cerberus: We started watching De 12 Van Oldheim. One thing that struck me was that the Dutch spoken in the show has a pretty close affinity to American English in vocal cadence, mannerism, and is even salted with American slang and profanity.
15:29
An artel (Russian: арте́ль) was any of various cooperative associations that existed in the Tsardom of Russia, Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. They began centuries ago but were especially prevalent from the time of the emancipation of the Russian serfs (1861) through the 1950s. In the later Soviet period (1960s–1980s), the term was mostly phased out with the complete monopolization of the Soviet economy by the state. Artels were semiformal associations for craft, artisan, and light industrial enterprises. Often artel members worked far from home and lived as a commune. Payment for a completed...
These small commercial companies were a kind of cooperatives called artel
And the state had the power over them, but not as direct as over purely Socialist firms.
15:52
Word of the day: Mammary ridge
Sometimes its improper development results in polythelia, the presence of several additional nipples.
16:22
> Dutch court rules nationwide coronavirus lockdown is lawful
@Cerberus Under the Mongols
Mongols fought between themselves, alas.
They did not manage to conquer all of Europe because of internal struggles..
Even if the revolution stops at this, at least they toppled one statue of the despot. Not bad at all.
16:38
Except for the killing, destruction, enslavement, wiping out of entire populations, pillaging, brutal subjugation, maiming, forced repatiriation, upheaval of society, more killing... aside from all that, the Mongols ushered in an era of political stability lasting (check notes) 3 months?
"What have the Mongols done for us"?
haha...more realistically maybe 150 years
@CowperKettle Well... not much lately. They just ride their horses and yurt their yurts.
Like the Vikings... they used to be somebody. now they're just sitting around making sweaters, eating rotten fish, and making cheap particle board furniture that you have to build yourself.
@CowperKettle Life of Brian reference?
@CowperKettle yes but there was a time period f about one hundred years (I think starting from Kublai Khan's reign where it wasn't so bad
The Pax Mongolica (Latin for "Mongol Peace"), less often known as Pax Tatarica ("Tatar Peace"), is a historiographical term modelled after the original phrase Pax Romana which describes the stabilizing effects of the conquests of the Mongol Empire on the social, cultural and economic life of the inhabitants of the vast Eurasian territory that the Mongols conquered in the 13th and 14th centuries. The term is used to describe the eased communication and commerce the unified administration helped to create and the period of relative peace that followed the Mongols' vast conquests. The conquests of...
16:46
Good man.
What has Monty Python ever done for us?
They gave us a lot of pop-culture references.
They made us laugh. A lot.
There is the satirization of authority
ok, but apart from the pop-culture references, what has Monty Python ever done for us
16:48
and organized religion
They gave us aqueducts and roads.
Sanitation?
public health
you can walk around at night without getting mugged
aside from that...
ok, but apart from the pop-culture references, making us laugh (a lot), yes alright a lot, satirisation of authority organzied religion, aqueducts and roads, sanitation, public health, and walking around without being mugged, what has Monty Python ever done for us?
John Cleese is a bit of a drunk uncle/boomer with his tin ear (or is it tone deaf?) comments
@MattE.Эллен I see your point.
16:51
What is a good replacement for the phrase "eat our own dogfood"?
It sounds almost vulgar.
dogfooding?
@Mitch Don't eat our own dogfood. Dogfood is for dogs.
or do you want something without dogfood?
"The cook needs to taste it before serving"?
> Everyone likes the soup better after they've pissed in it.
16:53
@MattE.Эллен dog food, while being perfectly natural thing for dogs to eat, just sounds vulgar
@Robusto no one thinks their own shit smells
"Eat your own donuts"?
"Eat your own sausage"
@Mitch "Nothing tastes as good as bread and butter?"
Eat your own cooking?
"wear your own shoes"?
"Don't get high on your own supply"
that's sort of the opposite altogether
@anonymous in that direction
walk a mile in your own shoes
16:55
The chef needs to eat their own cooking
@MattE.Эллен smirk
Wait, I've got it! Make your dog eat his own dog food!
the cobbler's kids go barefoot
Make everyone's dog eat your dog food!
@Robusto that's just proper etiquette
not dog etiquette though
@Mitch they know what's up
16:56
dogs never follow that rule
Make all dogs and dog-like creatures eat your dog food!
You can't take what you dish out?
That's "You can dish it out but you can't take it."
@anonymous nice food connection, but that sounds more like a boxing reference
Fake it until you make it.
Fake it until your dog makes it.
16:57
Like theranos?
"use your own API"
Fake it until your dog eats his dog food.
@MattE.Эллен well haha that's the actual application of the phrase it is intended for
@Mitch down with metaphors
"interpret your own metaphor"
You can't spell simile with out s-m-i-l-e.
16:59
All this talk about food
I never metaphor I didn't like.
There's no me in team.
snicker
@anonymous British version: There's no mate in team.
:D
check mate!
17:01
nice
eat your own GPT3 generated recipe
Cheeky, mate!
You can't fake what you bake?
Bake or boil
either/or
The proof of the pudding is in the eating?
17:08
Flowcharts on the use of personal pronouns in German and French
3 hours ago, by Mitch
But Interpersonal Skills... it looks like they need to...what's the phrasing... need to eat their own dogfood?
Hone their interpersonal skills?
I read some interesting questions on Interpersonal skills. Interesting site.
A Kremlin propagandist "journalist" writes: "I'm trying to discover any emotions inside myself concerning the situation in Kazakhstan. So far, nothing. No emotions". A commenter says: "Just you wait, they will send you (an instruction). Your bosses are shocked themselves as yet".
People are gleeful that Kremlin shills are silent on the situation in Kazakhstan, awaiting detailed instructions from the Kremlin.
Propagandists don't have their own opinions, only those of their masters.
 
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Birthplaces of the 100 Fastest 10,000m Runners of All Time
The Kalenjin comprise a number of Southern Nilotic ethnic groups indigenous to what was formerly the Rift Valley Province in Kenya. They number 6,358,113 individuals as per the Kenyan 2019 census. They are divided into 11 culturally and linguistically related tribes: Kipsigis, Nandi, Keiyo, Marakwet, Sabaot, Pokots, Tugen, Terik, Sengwer, Lembus, and Ogiek. == Prehistory == === Origins === Linguistic evidence points to the eastern Middle Nile Basin south of the Abbai River, as the nursery of the Nilotic languages. That is to say south-east of present-day Khartoum.It is thought that beginning...
 
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@CowperKettle Dutch is mostly the same as French, except a little bit looser. But most rules generally apply, except that God is definitely U.
@Mitch Would you call that really stable?
The region was conquered, split up, etc.
@CowperKettle If this is real, it's pretty cool.
Where did the fish go?
@CowperKettle I would say it is a little bit more complicated in reality, though.
Parents can sometimes be U, in very conservative (religious, rural?) families.
Grandparents are also often U, but not always.
@Robusto Hmm I do not know it.
American/international slang would be expected; I don't know what you mean by American cadence and/or mannerisms.
Do post a video clip if you have it.
People who consume lots of Hollywood films or American computer games of certain genres may very well use some of the slang and vulgarities.
It will be partly ironic, or not, especially if they are of the lower classes.
21:28
@Cerberus I was joking of course as I wrote that but see the link a little further I found of the Pax Mongolia, that lasted a hundred years. It made the Silk Road a stable trading link (and made possible Marco Polo's trip to and from China). But the bigger thing is that it did provide stability for a hundred years... ended by (among other things the plague (which reached Europe in 1348 after a couple years)
Hmm how large was this stable region?
@Cerberus I don't know how to describe vocal cadence to you, except to say there is a certain rhythm and accent pattern to the syllables.
Is it different from other people you have heard speak Dutch?
The language is fairly close to English.
> Despite the political fragmentation of the Mongol Empire into four khanates (Yuan dynasty, Golden Horde, Chagatai Khanate and Ilkhanate), nearly a century of conquest and civil war was followed by relative stability in the early 14th century. The end of the Pax Mongolica was marked by the disintegration of the khanates and the outbreak of the Black Death in Asia which spread along trade routes to much of the world in the mid-14th century.
@Mitch This sentence suggests the peace lasted from the early to mid-14th century.
Hardly comparable to the Pax Romana.
@Cerberus The only time I really heard Dutch was when I visited Amsterdam in the '80s. I don't really remember how it sounded to me because I didn't speak it and people mostly spoke English to me anyway.
Ah, OK.
21:35
I was just struck by those things I mentioned in the show.
The early '80s was before I started learning Japanese, even. The only other language I spoke was German, and that was all over the map with regional accents anyway. Some of them sounded like the Dutch I heard in Amsterdam, IIRC.
I guess I would say the Dutch on the show and American English sound lazier to my ear than the more mannered (and regionally more various) British English. Certainly lazier than Hochdeutsch, which is punctuated with periodic emphases.
Hmm periodic emphases, not sure what those are.
Television drama is also a certain genre with its own expectations.
People tend to speak more staccato, I would say.
Some Lower German accents are probably somewhat close to Dutch.
@Cerberus I don't think of it as staccato.
More like lazy mumbling.
Like they're not going to make a serious effort to enunciate.
22:00
Indeed, that is Dutch for you.
Also American.
22:49
> France reports record 332,252 new cases
And Portugal, and Turkey, and Italy, and the Netherlands, and I haven't even scrolled yet.
All new records.
That's all the world.
> Record rises in daily Covid cases were reported in at least seven countries on Wednesday as the Omicron variant continues to spread. They were: France - 332,252; Portugal - 39,570; Turkey - 66,467; Italy - 189,109; Sweden - 17,320; the Netherlands - 24,000 and Israel - 11,978.
Seems like the UK is letting France get ahead of it in the leaderboard.
The UK only managed a bit under 200k today.
23:30
@Cerberus oh sure no comparison. But we were all just unsure of any stability at all in central Asia, and this hundred year (or maybe 50?) Is at least some.
@Cerberus hm...I dunno. That colored part of the map?
But that would mean pretty much -all- of Asia?
Which, by any sort of reasonable thinking, would be implausible for -all- of Asia.
Hey @rob, at this very minute watching a 20th anniversary quiz show of Harry Potter trivia. It's just like being -in- the books. You're missing a lot.
23:48
Huh, that's an unexpected spike.
New Year's Eve?
At least hospital admissions have continued to decrease.
@Mitch From my quotation, it would seem to be 50 years, which is not a very long time on a scale of many centuries. But, yes, there was some peace under the Mongols.

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