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tchrist
tchrist
00:43
is Obama an éminence grise now — or was he always that?
> AstraZeneca to provide EU with 9 million more vaccines
Who writes these headlines? I thought AZ only had one vaccine!
tchrist
tchrist
01:12
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I have no idea how to even start to try to go about pronouncing most of those.
Robusto
Robusto
01:39
@tchrist You need some Athabasco sauce.
tchrist
tchrist
Does that go on eggs or on wild rice?
Robusto
Robusto
Yes.
A mis queridos amigos
que me acompañaron por los caminos de México
No los olvidaré

Paul Theroux's dedication to On the Plain of Snakes: A Mexican Journey
A very nice sentiment.
Theroux walked the U.S./Mexico border from Brownsville to San Diego, and that is what the book is about.
He is an excellent travel writer. Maybe the best. And he is very dedicated. Actually, that is an understatement. He walked the entire height of Africa, from Cairo to Capetown, for his book Dark Star Safari, and reported on what he found.
That's about 4,400 miles as the crow flies.
He also walked the entire perimeter of England, Scotland, and Wales for The Kingdom by the Sea.
He did accept a ride in a pickup truck once, just to get through a war zone in Ethiopia, IIRC.
And the pickup got shot at by troops of one side or the other.
Ha, interesting. He lives in Medford, MA. My son lived there before he bought a house in Watertown.
Robusto
Robusto
02:20
Correction: Theroux did not walk the Mexican border. He did the other walks I mentioned, however. I guess at 77 he was entitled to drive after all.
Imagine walking from Cairo to Capetown at age ~58. Damn.
tchrist
tchrist
02:33
@Robusto If you ever get the chance, there is an awesome road trip to be had in far west Texas along the river road at the border down dropping down from El Paso to go through Presidio and Lajitas and Terlingua to Big Bend State and National PArks.
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist Interesting. I'll keep that in mind.
tchrist
tchrist
It's considered one of the most scenic drives in America. It's included with the small set that includes the drive on highway 1 from Monterey to Big Sur.
Another near you now is the one through the Four Corners that takes you through Monument Valley on the nation.
It's in and out between Utah and Arizona, Kayenta and Bluff. But I always find that part of the country stunning.
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist I've done the Big Sur/Monterey drive once by car and once by bike. Car going north, bike going south.
tchrist
tchrist
They say you can sometimes see condors along 89A.
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist Done that one, too.
Haven't spent a lot of time in Texas, other than for work or to visit my parents when they lived in Houston.
tchrist
tchrist
02:41
This is...a very, very different sort of Texas.
hikebiketravel.com/…
Nothing whatsoever like Houston. Thank God.
My mom and five of my uncles got their first covid shot last week. My test came back negative as I was sure it would, and the Augmentin is kicking the snot out of my snot, with no more fever.
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Robusto
Robusto
Good job.
tchrist
tchrist
I have a couple local friends here that are SO CLOSE to being allowed to get theirs, at 67 and 69.75. I guess in a week they'll drop the age limit down to 65 here.
Robusto
Robusto
I dunno about ours. Only 5% of my county have been vaccinated. That is appallingly low.
tchrist
tchrist
yeah
Robusto
Robusto
And ABQ has already run out of vaccine and needs a re-up.
I'm going to be going to our local dispensary a bit before EOD to see if I can get leftovers like my brother did.
tchrist
tchrist
02:50
I've heard the feds are still trying to figure out where 20 million doses got to that they sent out. Apparently SOMEBODY didn't keep very good track of things.
Robusto
Robusto
They only do the vaccinations three days a week.
@tchrist Trump prolly sold them on the black market and pocketed the proceeds.
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tchrist
tchrist
@Robusto Around here folks hang out at the local dispensaries hoping for a contact high. :)
Yeah, that's like $400,000,000 or something insane.
Robusto
Robusto
Also, it's funny how shit gets lost in Republican administrations. Like when we shipped $12 billion in cash to Iraq and it ... kinda ... fell off a truck or something.
tchrist
tchrist
> Biden’s team is still trying to locate upwards of 20 million vaccine doses that have been sent to states — a mystery that has hampered plans to speed up the national vaccination effort.
Robusto
Robusto
Yeah. Bummer.
tchrist
tchrist
02:54
I have no affection for the Bushes, trust me.
But they were not crooks and cads and lying treasonous grifters.
Well, maybe a bit of the cad.
Definitely ran some kind of a scam to get us into the Second Iraq War.
And the first Bush could still speak in complete sentences.
Not Prescott.
Robusto
Robusto
You have to remember the perfidy of one Dick Cheney.
He was the troll under the bridge of the second Bush administration.
tchrist
tchrist
Yeah and after the siege and the assault had ceased in Washington, the one the Republicans want to punish for it is his straight daughter. Just don't get that.
Robusto
Robusto
Fuck Republicans and the whores they rode in on.
Anyway, I'm going to have to go lie down. I had a hard ride today and my back is killing me in this chair. Later.
tchrist
tchrist
Good night.
Mitch
Mitch
03:42
@Robusto Holy crap...how cold is it there?
@tchrist I've always wanted to do the road around Iceland.
MetaEd
MetaEd
@tchrist congratulations on your mention in "Plural form of words ending in -us" (Wikipedia). also terribly sorry to hear about what happened with perl.com. Hope that is coming to a speedy resolution.
 
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Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
07:29
@tchrist Actually, they were all of those things. In spades.
@Robusto The military "loses" staggering sums of money all the time. In trillions, apparently. I was reading an article about it the other day.
Of course, the information given might be inaccurate.
@Mitch Double negatives are confusing. With a "totally" thrown in for good measure.
@Mitch I don't think I've read any of those. I must have glanced at one or two.
I'm not really that familiar with her work.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
08:31
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Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
09:00
@CowperKettle Out of focus.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:47
> The fortress surrendered and as many as 6,000 locals were baptized in the Catholic rite. As soon as the Teutonic army returned to Prussia the Lithuanians returned to their pagan practices and beliefs.
Siege of Medvėgalis
The Siege of Medvėgalis was a brief siege of Medvėgalis, a Lithuanian fortress in Samogitia, in February 1329 by the Teutonic Order reinforced by many guest crusaders, including King John of Bohemia. The 18,000-strong Teutonic army captured four Lithuanian fortresses and besieged Medvėgalis. The fortress surrendered and as many as 6,000 locals were baptized in the Catholic rite. The campaign, which lasted a little more than a week, was cut short by a Polish attack on Prussia in the Polish–Teutonic War (1326–32). As soon as the Teutonic army returned to Prussia the Lithuanians returned to their...
Word of the day: synophrys
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
10:04
@CowperKettle Didn't you WOTD this a couple of weeks ago?
user 85795
user 85795
10:29
I literally had to laugh out loud when I read the last line of this entry in Etymonline.
for the ending -ae
> occasional plural suffix of words ending in -a (see a- (1)), most of which, in English, are from Latin nominative fem. singular nouns (or Greek ones brought up through Latin), which in Latin form their plurals in -ae. But plurals in native -s were established early in English for many of them (such as idea, arena) and many have crossed over since. Now it is not possible to insist on purity one way or the other without breeding monsters.
user 85795
user 85795
10:44
Oct 31 '20 at 13:30, by CowperKettle
Word of the day: synophrys
Good memory @M.A.R.
Oct 31 '20 at 13:30, by CowperKettle
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:O
user 85795
user 85795
11:00
If you want to remember something for 3 months like it was a couple of weeks ago, attach a picture to it.
add animation, and you may never forget it
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
11:38
@M.A.R. It came up on my Anki again
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
11:57
In the Russian news, bigger vaccine batches are reported now. Clearly the pharma industry has at last started producing it in somewhat bigger volumes. But I would expect a true wide-scale vaccination, with 24/7 vaccination booths, to come no earlier than late March.
Thus far, one has to register in an electronic queue, at least theoretically.
Today I enrolled my Mom into an electronic queue.
And I got a link to my personal post-vaccination self-observation diary on GosUslugi, a whole-Russia governmental portal literally translated as "State Services".
I can leave my complaints there, describe any kinds of possible side effects.
Very good from the data gathering standpoint.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
12:16
> Considering Iran's high capacity in the vaccine production sector, the two countries agreed to coproduce the vaccine in Iran, IRNA quoted Kazem Jalali, the ambassador of Iran to the Russian Federation, as saying on Saturday.
It will take a couple of months though to really get off the ground.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
12:32
@CowperKettle I'm kinda skeptical of a co-up with Russia. The nuclear program was also a co-up with Russia but they kept most of the knowledge so our scientists had to learn a lot of things for themselves AFAIK
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
13:01
@Mitch M.A.R. is interested
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:31
@RegDwigнt I tried not to, but you found out anyway
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:43
@Xanne the way I understand most statistical learning methods is that you have a period of learning: supervised, unsupervised or a hybrid. Then when the accuracy of the method reaches a threshold (e.g. 90% agreement with the training data) you stop training and use it on the real world. If its real world performance is less than desired, more training with a different set of training data can be done. Training isn't usually done "on the job"
That being said a method for on the job training doesn't sound revolutionary, but perhaps I'm just too inexperienced to know how hard it is to do
Gigili
Gigili
14:11
Hallelujah! Temptation is here! It's not a dream anymore.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha I think Wodehouse is entertaining but I can't gush over it like other people seem to do.
I recently saw some of the BBC 'Blandings' series on TV and, how to put this as diplomatically as possible, it was... idiotic. Just embarrassing. Not production -wise...that was perfectly fine. I mean the plot. Just asinine.
@FaheemMitha You're not unwelcome. Not entirely.
@Xanne What @MattE.Эллен said captures it. Most ML methods are 'off-line'. take a (static) set of data, essentially a spreadsheet, where 1 column (often a yes or no like 'is this a cat?') you want to predict from the other columns (which may be words or images). Do your fancy statistics or neural net to get a machine to predict the 1 column from all the others.
You can modify the setup to be 'on-line' which updates the model (the prediction machine) after every new individual instance. It can be as boring as 'run the whole thing again but with the additional instance' (but that can be slow). Or maybe you can make the process more efficient. Calling it 'liquid' is just marketing BS.
Robusto
Robusto
14:34
@Mitch Not bad by your standards. Highs will reach upper 50s today, 60s tomorrow. Around freezing at night.
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto I'm not very courageous. below 60 is where I don't feel comfortable riding a bike.
@Xanne Which is to say, most AI systems are not-continuously updating. They train the machine once and then its a consistent unchanging black box.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
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Mitch
Mitch
Having them continuously update can be problematic... remember the Microsoft chatbot Tay? It was continuously updating on the speech of those who talked to it. Within a day of its initial release to public use, some jackasses had gamed the system to get Tay to respond in racist and misogynistic language (which it had not been previously trained to do).
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch Sounds like blind gyntimidating.
Robusto
Robusto
15:12
@Mitch I don't feel comfortable not riding a bike.
Mitch
Mitch
Driving a car must be awkward
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
given how polluting, dangerous and destructive cars are when driven, I would hope so.
It's a law I could get behind. All cars manufactured from now on must be awkward to drive
"I'd drive down to the shops, but it's so awkward. I'll just walk."
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@M.A.R. Russia is your friend, comrade.
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch I do that much less than I ride, true.
Last year I only rode 6,000 miles because of Covid, and I only drove my car about 1500 miles. The year before that I rode my bike 10,000 miles and drove my car only about 6,000.
tchrist
tchrist
15:44
@MetaEd Thanks. It appears to have been just one of many domains caught up in a far more extensive pattern by particular threat actors on the internet-world's stage. I have some reason, private for now, to hope it may revert in the first day or two of this present work-week.
Today's word of the day is inkhorn term: n. archaic a term of the literary language, a learned or bookish word; so also inkhorn desire, inkhorn language, inkhorn word.
> 1872 W. Minto Man. Eng. Prose Lit. ɪɪ. ii. 235 Inkhorn words of Latin origin.
1871 J. R. Lowell My Study Windows (1886) 330 As if it were a spoken, and not merely an ink-horn language.
1784 W. Hutton Bran New Wark 6 Inkhorn words, to be honest, we knaw lile abaut.
1623 W. Lisle Ælfric's Saxon Treat. Pref. (1638) 16 Faine to stuffe the text with such fustian, such inkehorne termes, as may seem to favour their parts.
1589 R. Greene Menaphon sig. F Wherefore thought he had done it of an inkhorne desire to be eloquent.
The barrier to use is that present-day writers need seldom dip their quills deep in their inkhorns to write such long words.
And so they likely as not no longer recognize the use to which an inkhorn would be put, or even what an inkhorn is.
Robusto
Robusto
16:47
> Mexico is not a country. Mexico is a world, too much of a mundo to be wholly graspable, but so different from state to state in extreme independence of culture and temperament and cuisine, and in every other aspect of peculiar Mexicanismo, it is a perfect example of thatness.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch The Fry Laurie version is as good as it gets, probably.
Robusto
Robusto
> Más sabe el diablo por viejo, que por diablo ...
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
Google translate is so weird. it's not translating "tastier" into Latin, only "tastier than"
but not in a sentence.
Robusto
Robusto
Google translate has many quirks and unevennesses.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
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Robusto
Robusto
17:02
A good trick is to look at its translation, then reverse it and see how it botches the reverse.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
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Cerberus
Cerberus
@MattE.Эллен Google Translate is Latin.SE's SWR.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
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Cerberus
Cerberus
It is our plague and our bane.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
:D
I bet
Cerberus
Cerberus
17:03
I think we have a special tag for it.
Or against it, rather.
All of the translations you posted are complete nonsense, alas.
Robusto
Robusto
I've tasted an orange, but I've never tasted a devil.
Unless you count devil's food cake.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
if Google Translate ever threatens humanity, we just have to start speaking Latin
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yeah.
For the time being, English will do.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@Robusto I haven't either. Yet
but I'm betting I'm right
Robusto
Robusto
Let's hope that is not in our future.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
17:06
@Cerberus that's a shame
Cerberus
Cerberus
I suppose.
Robusto
Robusto
Nonsense seems to be au courant lately.
Very fashionable, very modern.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yeah.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
then my time is now!
Cerberus
Cerberus
How are we going to defend ourselves with nonsense, when the Jewish space lasers come?
Robusto
Robusto
17:08
Gawd.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Our craziest far-right party has fractured.
Or imploded, rather.
Went from 15 seats to 3 in the polls.
Robusto
Robusto
Outstanding. Can you work that magic on ours?
Cerberus
Cerberus
It just takes some time.
And many have returned to the older far-right party.
But better the Devil you know.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
Than the orange you don't
Or, after the English civil war, better the devil you know and the orange you don't
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well, who would you prefer as your leader, Trump, Bannon, or the space lady?
I'd probably pick Trump.
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
17:16
@MattE.Эллен Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the Glorious Revolution.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@Cerberus who is the space lady?
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus He would be the top choice for his incompetence alone. Better the devil you know who is an idiot than the one you know can work his evil competently.
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Cerberus
Cerberus
@MattE.Эллен The one of the Jewish space lasers.
Marjorie something.
@Robusto Exactly.
Robusto
Robusto
@MattE.Эллен Here she is, in all her lunacy.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@Robusto oh. oh. oh dear
@AndrewLeach but... it was Glorious! ;)
Cerberus
Cerberus
17:19
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Marjorie Taylor Greene (born May 27, 1974) is an American politician, businesswoman, and conspiracy theorist serving as a U.S. representative for Georgia's 14th congressional district. A member of the Republican Party, Greene was elected to Congress in November 2020 and sworn into office on January 3, 2021. Greene was one of the 139 representatives who challenged the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election in Congress on January 7, 2021, the day after the storming of the U.S. Capitol. She has voiced support for disproven and discredited far-right conspiracy theories including Pizzagate,...
The section about the Jewish space lasers.
Robusto
Robusto
The Republicans seem to be fighting each other to see who can be the dumbest, the most exotically ridiculous.
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
We have the Scottish Nationalists.
Cerberus
Cerberus
They're not that crazy?
Besides, an independent Scotland could be nice.
Robusto
Robusto
They're pissed off about Brexit coming just after they voted to stay in the Union.
Cerberus
Cerberus
It and Northern Ireland may very well secede and rejoin the European Union.
Demography is against the UK in Northern Ireland, or so I have read.
It already is in Scotland.
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
17:28
@Cerberus Perhaps it's just Ms Sturgeon, then.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@AndrewLeach You think she's crazy?
She certainly is fanatical about independence, but what else?
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
I think she's fanatically driven to the point of mania.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Only about independence, or also about other things?
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
Neglecting domestic affairs (like education) in dogged and single-minded pursuit of the unachievable.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Before Brexit, I could not quite understand why half the people in Scotland wanted independence so badly.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
17:35
in 1980 the SNP were homophobic, but I don't know about now. probably knocked it on the head
Cerberus
Cerberus
Neglect is insanity?
And why is independence unachievable?
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
Neglecting education (particularly) and devoting all your efforts to something which the Government of the United Kingdom won't grant for a generation.
Cerberus
Cerberus
I still think that is not 'insanity' in the sense that the Jewish space lasers are.
And why will it not grant another referendum?
It wouldn't be the first time...
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
It won't because it was a once-in-a-generation thing. Note that the two EU referenda were over forty years apart.
What she's doing is not actually governing.
She's forgotten that once you get into government, you can't be a single-issue party any more.
And while not quite as insane as some (David Icke, anyone?), it's bordering on obsessional madness.
Cerberus
Cerberus
I still think this is quite different from extreme conspiracy theories and blatant discrimination.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
17:48
Spot's Got an Arm!
►
Run for the hills.
Ран фор зе хиллс.
Mitch
Mitch
18:28
@CowperKettle АМ АН АМЭРИКАН
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
18:42
> I came away from this meeting with a realization that..
Why don't we say instead "I went away from this meeting with a realization that?
"Came" signifies approach to something.
It's not logical to say "came away"
Mitch
Mitch
18:59
@Cerberus Like Brexit itself, what would be good for a nation or subnation per given criteria would take lots of experts to decide, and probably not going to be decided well by a lot of non-experts voting on base instinct
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
19:22
@Mitch That's something I've idly wondered for some time. We tell people, and they like to hear, that it's a democracy blah blah. And when it is, a significant portion of the masses is always easily swayed and manipulated.
But I've not been able to ask the right question about it. "How good really is democracy?" I guess
An oligarchy of experts would've been better in this case, no?
But then you have the problem that when it's an oligarchy, it's often not of experts
I'm just rambling. I'm out of my depth. I would have preferred if these things were like receptors and molecules
But I guess what I'm saying is almost all forms of government might result in a prosperous people, or might go horribly wrong. It doesn't seem to me that the rule of majority must be better for the people than the rule of the few or the one
Cerberus
Cerberus
20:09
@CowperKettle It is a fixed expression.
It is not literally about moving. Went away would be literally moving.
Cerberus
Cerberus
20:35
@Mitch I think this is not always something that can be answered by experts, though.
Xanne
Xanne
21:27
@CowperKettle Came or went, etc,: It depends on the direction of motion and where the speaker and listener are at the time. And the perspective can shift within a conversation.
Cerberus
Cerberus
> Definition of come away from:

—to move away from (an area, place, etc.):

The guard told him to come away from the door.

—often used figuratively:

Most readers come away from the book feeling reassured.

It was a difficult experience, but she came away from it a stronger and more confident person.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
“go away from”

The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary.
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Definition of go away

1 : to leave a place or person She angrily told him to go away and stop bothering her.
2 : to leave home for a period of time They're going away on vacation. After graduating from high school, he went away to college.
3 : to stop existing or happening : to end I just wish there was some way to make the pain go away.
This is all from the same dictionary, despite the odd formatting.
I do not believe you will often find go away from used in the same figurative sense.
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Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
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Xanne
Xanne
@M.A.R. The US Founding Fathers expressed many objections to democracy and were well aware of its earlier failures, e.g. ancient Greece. Many countries today do not directly elect their heads of government. A constitutional republic is not a pure democracy, although it may tend in that direction. And “democracy” is often used as a catch-all term. So there’s more nitty-gritty here to play with when you choose to get into it.
Cerberus
Cerberus
21:44
Quite so.
There is also the question of rule by majority.
If the majority decides to do something, is that always very democratic?
user 85795
user 85795
Black Lives did not matter to the US Founding Fathers.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Indeed not.
Nor did they care to hear the opinions of women or children.
user 85795
user 85795
That is the real nitty-gritty.
Cerberus
Cerberus
> In 1789, Revolutionary France adopted the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen and, although short-lived, the National Convention was elected by all men in 1792.[1] It was revoked by the Directory in 1795. Universal male suffrage was re-established in France in the wake of the French Revolution of 1848.[2]

In the United States, the rise of Jacksonian democracy from the 1820s to 1850s led to a close approximation of universal manhood suffrage among white people being adopted in all states by 1856.[3] Poorer white male citizens gained representation; however, tax-paying requ…
Robusto
Robusto
@CowperKettle 1) Language is not logic; 2) Came signifies motion toward oneself; the realization that was gleaned from the meeting departed the meeting toward the speaker. Now, you could definitely say "I went away from that meeting with the realization that ..." except that it's just not as idiomatic. Understandable? Sure. But there is something about came away that makes it more personal somehow.
It almost has a mild reflexive sense.
user 85795
user 85795
21:54
"Come" has a lot of connotations.
Robusto
Robusto
And "come away" is one of them.
user 85795
user 85795
Indeed.
Robusto
Robusto
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Xanne
Xanne
“Come home!” she said. “I will come home in a few minutes,” he replied. But to his friends in the office, he says “I’m going home soon.” “Will you be going to the store on you way home,” she says. It’s deictic.
Robusto
Robusto
That's Mt Taylor as seen from the La Luz trailhead north of Albuquerque. ^ It's over 60 miles (100 km) away.
Had a good hike this morning. No wind, lots of sun, interesting clouds.
Cerberus
Cerberus
22:02
Good.
Used sunscreen?
Robusto
Robusto
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And that is Ladron Peak. A little farther away, but across the city so there is a haze not seen in the other photo.
@Cerberus Not today. I have a wide-brimmed hat I wear on hikes.
Cerberus
Cerberus
All right, then.
Robusto
Robusto
Plus long sleeves today. It's February, after all.
user 85795
user 85795
Found out today that the knights & raiders aren't actually in the city of las vegas
they belong to the town of paradise
Robusto
Robusto
Is that your way of telling us this is Skullpatrol and not some unknown user? ^_^
user 85795
user 85795
22:06
:D
strange, but true
Robusto
Robusto
/nod
Cerberus
Cerberus
Haha we already knew.
user 85795
user 85795
Mr shiny has been gone a looong time?
Cerberus
Cerberus
22:22
Quite.
user 85795
user 85795
22:59
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Q: How do I make my kids love reading

Kt hamilI have 2 children, they're still very young to be able to read, but I see that they enjoy watching cartoons a lot (like any kid), the problem is, I don't want my kids to grow up in front of a screen all the time watching trash shows like the Kardashians, or just lazing on social media. I want to ...

reading books
or any kid?
Cerberus
Cerberus
By giving them something to read that they will like.
user 85795
user 85795
moulding their interests?
Cerberus
Cerberus
First probing, then moulding and motivating?
@Robusto I think we're around 1%...
For the country.
user 85795
user 85795
the link in the comment section sums it up
you can lead a horse to water...
Mitch
Mitch
23:22
@Cerberus It depends. But I'm not sure in what way. voting seems like a very acceptable way to decide some things, like an opinions? but not good for deciding facts?
@MetaEd Dude.
@M.A.R. It's like voting is just a school yard game of fairness everybody accepts it as the least awful way of choosing something arbitrary.

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