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@skullpatrol Stop.
I'm not going to get depressed again.
I fucking hate this shit. This whole fucking election.
Sorry, pal.
He is not going to win.
I refuse to believe all his stupid supporters haven't been counted yet.
You never know with politics.
He is incompetent, dangerous, self-serving, a copious liar, a black liar, and a crook. And he's a puppet of Putin.
Why does this look completely not German to me.
Why does it look completely Belgian.
00:04
The colours
At first I thought the Doodle was supposed to be celebrating 100 years Bauhaus art or some such.
It's only when I hovered over it that I understood what it's supposed to mean.
@Cerberus does this look German to you.
@RegDwigнt Only now that you mention it.
Could just as well have been Belgian or not referring to any country (just random colours).
Maybe because the colors are German flag colors?
00:06
@Cerberus Thank you.
Goole
Yeah, Goole.
@Robusto that's what I'm trying to figure out. The colors are all there. But the association is not. It does not look German at all. Must be the way they interplay and collocate or whatever you call that in art.
At least to me, mere colours are not distinctive enough to make me think of a flag with those colours.
@M.A.R. More like GOOIE.
00:08
But perhaps it might be different with the colours of the Dutch flag, to which I am primed more.
@RegDwigнt naw that's French
@Cerberus well certainly not red, white, blue, because everyone has those.
The second "g" in Google is supposed to be represented by the interlocation of the puzzle piece. Which is a big fail, whichever art director/designer's big idea that was.
Red, white, and blue: one of the oldest national flags.
@Cerberus yours is just the American flag, horribly misspelled.
00:09
@RegDwigнt Yes, but those colours do easily remind me of our flag.
@RegDwigнt Our flag is many centuries older.
Also much older than the French flag.
@Cerberus well those colours do easily remind me of our flag. Which is also many centuries older.
Pfft the French. Their blue is not even proper blue.
Well ours is
Uh, 40 years old only. Dangit
The French put all their blue in their cheese. Nothing was left for the flag.
But we're older, OK?
@RegDwigнt Which flag is that?
00:11
@Robusto to be fair, that's pretty much the job description of most designers these days.
> The flag of the Netherlands (Dutch: de Nederlandse vlag) is a horizontal tricolour of red, white, and blue.
The current design originates as a variant of the late 16th century orange-white-blue Prinsenvlag ("Prince's Flag"), evolving in the early 17th century as the red-white-blue Statenvlag ("States Flag"), the naval flag of the States-General of the Dutch Republic, making the Dutch flag perhaps the oldest tricolour flag in continuous use.[9][10] It has inspired the Russian[11] and French flags.
@Cerberus Russia, you funny cat.
The white flag of surrender is the oldest flag in the world
@RegDwigнt As you see, the Russian flag was based on the Dutch flag.
@skullpatrol Can't be. There was a shortage of white before detergent was invented.
@Cerberus NOU
00:12
!
White is the newest color in the world. Up until recently we only had beige, mud, and shit. Not the same thing at all.
Black Flags Matter.
Hmm, mud is redder than shit?
Purple is old.
@skullpatrol Arr, matey.
00:14
Pretty sure turquoise is also old
@M.A.R. I'm sure Cerberus will inform you very shortly that turquoise is just the Dutch flag upside down.
See.
Already happening.
@Cerberus those colors are all gay.
00:16
Eww.
I was going to sleep today.
The poor snail from which the pigment is extracted.
I'm sure they put it back and set it free afterwards.
Its own fault. It could've bought Apple shares.
And then?
It wouldn't be poor anymore.
In ancient Rome, an angusticlavia, angusticlavus, or angustus clavus was a narrow-strip tunic (tunica) with two narrow vertical Tyrian purple stripes (clavi). The tunic was typically worn under the toga with the right side stripe visible. == Usage and significance == The angusticlavia was the tunic associated with the rank and office of the eques, or equestrians, one of the two highest legal orders in aristocratic Rome. Order members were military men, often patricians (patrici), who served as the cavalry units in war. During times of peace they frequently served as personal assistants to Roman...
00:18
Gezondhijd.
@RegDwigнt Depends on when it bought and sold them.
Well it's the oldest color in the world, so I suppose it would've bought them way in the 80s or something.
@RegDwigнt Who says it didn't?
See. They're so old they're even hanging in museums.
@Cerberus So now we know the source of Mad King George's porphyria. Too royal.
00:19
@Cerberus you said. You said it was poor.
Perhaps it was poor before it sold its shares and was put back.
@tchrist No doubt the etymological source.
Does anyone have any experience with mouse traps, by the way?
Which type works best?
The venereal kind.
Oh mouse trap not fly trap.
Get a cat.
Rent a cat.
Anyway I must get some sleep before piano lessons. I shall use that video on the order of operations as strong barbiturate.
00:22
Rent a whole clowder of cats.
Nighty-night.
Sleep.
I'd love to get cats.
But not an option.
Poison cheese?
He said trap, not torture to death!
Maybe get one of those big homes for happy hamsters and throw a welcoming party, with peanut butter.
Do you have any experience with which type if most effective?
00:27
I can't say: I've always done catch and release. Then again, so have my cats. :/ I find the remants.
Had to toss one today from my bedroom floor. Just gross.
Cyanide is fast
I have these live traps. Again, the cats virtually always get them before they can be safely captured.
> Johnson saw a small boost in his personal popularity after his diagnosis, but actual approval for his government predated his Covid-19 test, when he announced lockdown measures.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
> Bolsonaro spent the three weeks in isolation with apparently minor symptoms, and announced at the end of July that he’d finally tested negative. His seemingly mild case helped feed into his rhetoric that Covid-19 wasn’t a big deal, just something played up by the media. And it bolstered his image among supporters that he was a tough guy who’d easily defeated the virus everyone else was scared about.
So "bolstered his image among supporters" isn't quite the same as "support skyrocketed." Another @RegDwigнt Russian disinformation campaign.
in This Is Fine, 7 hours ago, by skullpatrol
it's like chess game now
@skullpatrol I have some poison sitting there: it killed a few, but this one won't eat it.
00:31
I suppose he's not looking to install a murarium.
@tchrist Do you can't say whether the live traps work well?
@Cerberus They work ok, but you need good bait.
Cats work far better.
My parents do have mice even with cats.
in This Is Fine, 7 hours ago, by skullpatrol
Trump has gone "all-in" for the sympathy vote
They aren't in my house, at least not now. When it gets colder, perhaps. When I awake in the middle of the night to someone going in and out of my kitchen cabinets, it's always Lorin looking for a snack.
00:33
@skullpatrol I have no sympathy for him. When he got there the cupboard was bare.
But they catch them every day nonetheless.
@tchrist You don't have a pantry? That's the only way we can keep our cats away from the cat goodies—or anything else.
@skullpatrol Haha perhaps he has.
They can open cupboards.
@Robusto They're looking for mice in the cupboards.
The cat treats are elsewhere.
00:35
You have mice in your cupboards?
Lorin thinks so.
Especially under the kitchen sink.
This worked against our cat.
Then how do they get the mice out?
00:36
Back in Boston we had mice for a while, because a power box separated from the clapboard on the south wall of the house, but I found the hole and patched it and then they were no more. The way we discovered we had mice was we saw Bosco catch one.
Skunks will also go through your cupboards looking for a snack.
He used to always climb onto the range hood, then jump to the high cupboard, and pull the (ceramic) butter dish onto the kitchen floor. The number of times we had to glue the pieces together I could not count.
And cats are weird. Bosco was like "I really hate these little fuckers. They should all fucking die! Right now!"
Cat commandment: Thou shalt not suffer a mouse to live.
Patching all the holes is the only true solution. But you have to be able to reach them.
00:40
Haha.
and not vice versa
@skullpatrol I always treat footnotes as exponents. Doesn't everyone?
:P
they really should of said something more meaningful, like a is not equal to 0
antifas
00:54
Yeah. It ain't an organization. Just a sentiment.
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yet
the Internet has put politics on steroids
It's still not an organization like the Proud Boys. Which is a terrorist organization.
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Alex ZaitsevI'm creating automated human description for rules and I'd like to know is something I got is good enough for native speakers or should I make it another way. For example, I have the following parts of rule to combine in one sentence: duration of event > 4 seconds; number of events is greater th...

They listen to Proud Marry keep on rolling...
This is about programming, not English.
I feel like if walk past a white house I'll catch the virus.
01:00
Not if you whistle while you walk past.
or knock on wood?
or break a mirror with an umbrella opened inside underneath a ladder, knocking over some salt?
Racism is now officially a virus
hah ha... but I can't look at that very long
yeah, it's creepy sorry
@skullpatrol it was always out there.
01:03
yup
dormant phase
but all this 'they' talk... sure people are carriers... but it's all about one particular supercarrier.
it's that one guy
what about the one million who have died around the world of it?
oh I was talking about racism
so... millions?
something like that
world numbers are tricky
also the one guy it's the orange t-bag
01:11
ourworldindata is a good start
it tracks the explosion of racism in the US since the election in 2016?
you could ask
Have you seen the documentary "13th"?
I'm totally confused by the use of kcal when talking about calories.
Shouldn't kcal mean 1,000 calories?
So why do you see statements like, "Humans of such-and-such a height and weight need a daily allotment of 2,000 kcal"?
Wouldn't that be two million calories?
nutritionalist use 1 Cal
not cal
So 2,000 Cal is 2 million cal?
01:20
1 Cal = 1,000 cal
I'm not sure
sorry
Use joules :-)
@skullpatrol Why are you even in this chat if you can't answer questions about calories?
@Robusto Yes.
People use calories as short for kilocalories, which is of course strictly incorrect.
In practice, people always mean kcal when they say calories.
01:24
Ah. See, @skullpatrol, @Cerb is having to do all the heavy lifting in nutritional measurement in this chat.
The calorie is a unit of energy widely used in nutrition.For historical reasons, two main definitions of calorie are in wide use. The small calorie or gram calorie (usually denoted cal) is the amount of heat energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius (or one kelvin). The large calorie, food calorie, or kilocalorie (Cal, calorie or kcal) is the amount of heat needed to cause the same increase in one kilogram of water. Thus, 1 kilocalorie (kcal) = 1000 calories (cal). By convention in food science, the large calorie is commonly called Calorie (with a capital...
North America definitely consumes the most calories according to that chart (and to my observation). And most of it is crap. Loads of carbs, lots of fat, no vegetables. The Waffle House diet.
There's a diabetes epidemic going on.
I typically burn 3,500 calories on days I ride, but I can't eat that much food in a day. On days I don't I burn about 2,200, and that's about as much as I can eat in a normal day.
So you loose weight?
01:35
My weight stays the same, within about one or two percent.
hmmm
that energy has to come from somewhere
Maybe I'm replacing the calories somehow.
I don't eat sweets and a lot of carbs. Sometimes o a ride I'll have a scone with coffee.
—1,300 cal
I'd love to eat double the calories I need.
Exercise makes me hungrier.
it depends a lot on your metabolism
etc
01:43
Right.
Exercise increases your metabolism.
But funnily enough, when I get off a ride I'm not particularly hungry.
The riders on the Tour de France consume like 8,000 calories a day. And they still lose weight.
Theirs is an inconceivable amount of exertion.
01:59
CNN's Jim Acosta is reporting that Trump "is very tired and having some trouble breathing" at Walter Reed. Between the fever, fatigue, and shortness of breath, clearly he's decompensated quickly given this morning's statement of no symptoms and full of energy.
@tchrist Well, apparently it's not something he's faking for sympathy.
Just curious, how does CNN know this?
Shouldn't medical information be private?
We had a prince in hospital in Switzerland a while ago, after a skiing accident. This Dutch reporter published something like, "he is probably going to be all right", which she had heard via an acquaintance at the hospital. She was severely chastised for that, and demoted from the board of editors.
The prince died later.
02:32
> The 2008 election of President Barack Obama triggered increased sales of both firearms and ammunition.[4] USA Today reported that in Wyoming, the "run on bullets and reloading components" reached such a "frenzy" that a Cheyenne retailer began rationing sales and said she was also selling semiautomatic rifles as fast as she could put them on the shelves.[5]
I've been having a feeling of heaviness in the stomach which very slowly goes away after heavy meals (protein). The doc sent me to undergo ultrasound and do some tests. All is fine, except for "increased echogenicity of the pancreas". I'm going with this result to the doc in a couple of days.
@Robusto Why do they do that? Americans must have good salaries, and with a good salary you won't even need to leave your house, you could just order the best natural good food to home.
03:02
@CowperKettle I don't know. But it's not the well-off who eat at Waffle House. Healthy nutrition is something that is the province mainly of the more affluent, better-educated, more progressive Americans. People like me, actually.
And Trump just got Remdesivir.
what trump wants trump gets
 
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@M.A.R. How can I know the gender of a particular Arabic word whose romanisation is Ishq? Is there a online dictionary or something that can tell me that?
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Daily new cases of covid in Russia
God morning
@CowperKettle Seems like something if missing of this graph(like axis, in which time period, measured per person?)
'good :D
No, it's not per person, it's per Russia
@CowperKettle Ah I see
By the way, I've just use Chrome's inbuilt translation feature to translate this page into English, and it works like a charm
I mean the page on yandex.ru
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@Robusto Also, trying to put out the fire.
 
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Stuff of the day
The Pyrrhic War (280–275 BC) was a war fought by Pyrrhus, the king of Epirus. Pyrrhus was asked by the people of the Greek city of Tarentum in southern Italy to help them in their war with the Roman Republic. A skilled commander, with a strong army fortified by war elephants (which the Romans were not experienced in facing), Pyrrhus enjoyed initial success against the Roman legions, but suffered heavy losses even in these victories. Plutarch wrote that Pyrrhus said after the second battle of the war, "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined." He could...
> A skilled commander, with a strong army fortified by war elephants (which the Romans were not experienced in facing), Pyrrhus enjoyed initial success against the Roman legions, but suffered heavy losses even in these victories. Plutarch wrote that Pyrrhus said after the second battle of the war, "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined." He could not call up more men from home and his allies in Italy were becoming indifferent. The Romans, by contrast, had a very large pool of military manpower and could replenish their legions even if their forc
Correct.
12:45
@Robusto Bolsonaro's approval ratings went higher up than they were ever before. Ever before. That's not "among his supporters". He gained additional popular support. From people who previously did not support him.
If you are skeptical about falling for my Russian disinformation campaigns, ask @Cerberus right there.
At any rate, whose disinformation campaigns are you quoting, unattributed.
At least all my writing is always explicitly signed off with "KGB".
13:06
@RegDwigнt Do you have a source for that?
Opinion polling has been regularly conducted in Brazil since the start of Jair Bolsonaro's four-year term administration, gauging public support for the President of Brazil and his government. Typically, an approval rating is based on responses to a poll in which a sample of people are asked to evaluate the overall administration of the current president. Participants might also be asked whether they approve of the way president handles his job, if they trust him, to rate his personality, or to opine on various policies promoted by the government. == Overall administration evaluation == The public...
What you say I cannot find here.
13:28
(Context: lay-offs in Disney's theme parks.)
14:14
@RegDwigнt I don't see your attributions anywhere.
OK, so why do smoke alarms only ever decide to warn people about low battery level in the middle of the fucking night?
Had to find batteries, get out a ladder, and change one at 2:00 a.m.
Gotta be a better way.
Belarusians keep going to the streets. ❤
14:32
One wonders how long they can keep up.
Indeed.
15:01
@Cerberus Was that prince entrusted with the office of keeping safe the whole of the Dutch State, its military, and its citizenry? Did he sit at the apex of your entire national security apparatus, including the sole decision point for launching nuclear strikes capable of killing not just millions but billions? washingtonpost.com/opinions/…
The Office of the President has always attempted to shield from public view the exact nature of their charge's health crises, or even the very existence of such. This is nothing new. But this time it has direct bearing on the singular preëminent emergency facing our nation and the world beyond: the pandemic. Finally it is critical to the election which has even now begun for us to elect our next President. Will this one survive? Will he be incapacitated or his faculties diminished?
That is why our situation is unlike yours.
Would that it were otherwise. Ojalá as Biden so recently intoned in translation.
15:17
"Billions" is a reference to China.
and China's reply to the US is "what is wrong with you people? We officially have ZERO new cases of COVID-19 in our country"
Our government has been remiss in its duties to enforce the requisite protocols in this immediate and acute crisis. These include its duty to warn others of their danger and to both isolate the infected and to quarantine the questionable. That has not happened and apparently may not.
The question of their status remains open until the incubation period has safely passed. That's why they all need to be in quarantine now.
@Cerberus you. In this very room. Not even a month ago.
Jesus Christ, can you please remember anything. Please. Just once.
@Robusto my attributions are a forgetful dog, apparently.
15:32
@RegDwigнt Recordare, Jesu pie, quod sum causa tuæ viæ: ne me perdas illa die.
Ever do we intone the ancient cries.
At any rate, I don't need to attribute anything now that people just automatically attribute it to a Russian disinformation campaign.
I'm fine with that.
Saves me work.
@RegDwigнt Wait, you aren't the Russian disinformation campaign?
3 hours ago, by RegDwigнt
At least all my writing is always explicitly signed off with "KGB".
Exactly.
So what else is it that you need.
A learned man requires no appeals to authority, for he is an authority in his own right.
I wonder whether these Belarusians are bellas rusas or rusos bélicos.
Or whether this isn't the conflict between those two.
15:39
The more a man learns, the less he knows.
@RegDwigнt Spoken like a true cathedratic from the high chair of his bishopric.
But maybe that only counts for Lawler and Pullum and the Pope.
I don't know, I can never sex chicks when newly hatched.
Oh my, they gave Trump supplemental oxygen yesterday at the hospital.
not a good sign
He has no fever today but did have Thursday and Friday. He's had no oxygen today.
recall he said Floyd is up in heaven smiling down on the unemployment figures
And Herman Cain on the covid figures.
15:51
yup
Sounds like he only got oxygen at the White House early Friday morning and not before nor since.
Too much oxygen and you get high.
They obviously decided that he was smack dab on the progression track for the classic bad outcome, and so intervened as early as possible with all guns at their disposal.
@skullpatrol You're thinking of those pressurized Cool-Whip dispensers.
Good point.
He must have the surgeon general taking care of him.
and his wife
The Times asks "What if Trump Can’t Run? Many Steps Are Clear, but Some Are Not." What a silly question! He's never been filmed running, not even once, and his steps on ramps are anything but certain.
Stairs, too. That's why he takes escalators.
@skullpatrol I doubt his wife takes any care for him.
16:00
she's got it too
Then she has no business taking care of him, now does she? :)
But the doc said her case wasn't one medically severe enough to call for what his own apparently has.
Definitely sounds like it him harder, which is what you would expect if he was the one who was first hit with a high viral load to trigger the infection.
Hope snuggling, or something.
in This Is Fine, 2 mins ago, by Jolenealaska
The doctor at the briefing said Trump was diagnosed 72 hours ago.
I believe that we heard of this 35 hours ago.
Which is an order of magnitude different.
16:05
@tchrist ...if he was the one who was old and obese.
Those are major risk factors.
I think they do not apply to his wife?
So it makes sense for him to be affected more severely.
They are, but I think it was the actual progression curve they saw him already advanced along but did not see her along that triggered rapid intervention more than hypotheticals and potentials.
I think he felt worse than she did. Where those could be any from the set of shortness of breath, fever, fatigue, headache, cough, and congestion, with the earlier of those more concerning by far than the latter ones.
@skullpatrol "72 hours into" makes it sounds like this is Day 4 not Day 3.
yup
he's been keeping it secret
His doctor did a good job at the mike.
16:11
btw
@tchrist orders of magnitude are multiples of 10.
@skullpatrol I'm a programmer! It's all just bits to me.
47 mins ago, by tchrist
Our government has been remiss in its duties to enforce the requisite protocols in this immediate and acute crisis. These include its duty to warn others of their danger and to both isolate the infected and to quarantine the questionable. That has not happened and apparently may not.
Multiples of 2?
35 = 00100011
72 = 01001000
@skullpatrol he's being binary
16:14
Ahead of their time, computationally speaking.
@skullpatrol The highest bit set is one position to the left in 72 compared with the corresponding highest bit set in 35.
I'm talking with a friend who keeps pronouncing Dionysus as Dionosus. I finally just said, "Please don't do that."
:55723280 I'm just seeing if I can respond to a post that has been removed.
I can, but do you get a ping?
No ping here
Seems like you should.
I want my money back.
Check is in the mail
16:23
I don't think it'll get here before the election.
@Robusto But /daɪəˈnaɪsɪs/ is the /daɪəɡˈnoʊsɪs/ of a god, /daɪəˈnoʊsɪs/ that of a disease!
BTW, speaking of the election, I could request a mail-in ballot but instead I'm going to go in on Tuesday because we have early voting here starting then.
@tchrist It still feels like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
Although now that I think of it, Apollo was the one with the plague arrows, not his party-crazed pal, Dion.
We were talking about Olympias, Alexander the Great's mom, and you can't avoid a discussion of Dionysus.
@tchrist BTW, our AQ is in the high moderate range today. But the forecast is all green.
So he really was an Olympian then.
16:29
In a manner of speaking.
@Robusto We look and smell much better. And I feel far less unwell.
> Fire Information
The Cameron Peak and Mullen fires are at 125,598 and 128,738 acres respectively. The fire weather improves today, and more moderate burning conditions are expected.
Smoke Information
CO: There should be less persistent smoke along the northern Front Range urban corridor today, as models show the smoke being pushed more south than yesterday. This will likely decrease smoke impacts east of the foothills from Longmont to Wellington, but may increase impacts in the hills and mountains. It is possible that this smoke may settle into valleys and drain into the urban corridor la
That's our air today.
Much worse than in recent days.
That's what we've been having for the past three or four days, before right now.
@tchrist so he was knowingly infected and meeting with people
When you can't make out features on the mountain slopes from 10 miles away, the air quality sucks. Makes me happy I didn't ride today, only walked.
@skullpatrol That is of a piece with his character.
16:33
@skullpatrol We don't know that that's not true, do we now?
@Robusto My visibility was down to 2 miles on Thursday.
CNN is investigating
Of course they are. :)
@tchrist Yeah, that's well into the danger zone.
These could be the necessary articles of impeachment
@skullpatrol We need a huge vote from the electorate on that, because obviously none of the Republican senators have sufficient spine.
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Is an article a particle? Discuss.
@skullpatrol Their potential failure in the diligent execution of the mandatory Isolate-the-Infected protocol we're not perfectly sure of for now, but what we absolutely do know for certain is that they have utterly failed at the mandatory Quarantine-the-Questionable protocol — and continue to do so.
Watergate meet Covid-19gate
@Robusto Only when that article particle is a virion.
@tchrist Virions make me sick.
16:41
Maybe impeachment article particles are interferons.
@skullpatrol I can't find any fault with that assertion.
@Robusto I certainly wouldn't wait for Mike Lee (I³-Utah), Thom Tillis (I³-NCar), and Ron Johnson (I³-Wisc) on that one.
No. Nor any Republican, really.
16:48
Let's hope Mitt but not Mitch steered clear of Mike.
I wouldn't give you a nickel for Mitt's chance of supporting the Constitution when the chips are down. That may be five times what I'd guesstimate the odds for any other Republican doing that, but it's still only a nickel.
Over just the past 24 hours, all three of Lee and Tillis and Johnson have move from the Republican column to the column of being Infected, Isolated, and Indisposed.
The Divine Wind? We can only hope.
@Robusto Nary a farthing, really.
@Robusto No more chips or cash. All credit and debit cards.
16:52
@skullpatrol And EBT cards, and HSA cards.
@Knight 1.Nf3
@tchrist A drawish opening, the Zukertort.
Could be the Reti as well. Depends on what happens next.
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