English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Cerberus

00:00

"It is also possible that she did indeed give him the Egyptian name [Munon], but that the Hebrew people changed it into the Hebrew form Mosse as soon as possible, because they hated the Egyptian."

Chirag

Oh nice. When I prepared for my GRE, 2yrs ago, I was very much interested in reading about etymology

simchona

@chirag check out English.stackexchange.com if you're still interested :]

Cerberus

Now I'm trying to remember what the abbreviation cā stood for again. I thought it was circa. One moment.

Oh, causa.

Of course.

jake

@Cerberus I've got to go now, but I'll be back online in about an hour or so. Thank a lot for your help. (You can keep on translating if you like while I'm gone. I'd certainly appreciate it.)

Cerberus

@jake Will do, we're almost there. Later!

I am not giving you literal translations, by the way: just giving you the gist of what he says.

Cerberus

00:20

"But the first position [that the Pharaoh's daughter gave him the Hebrew name] is closer to the truth, because the text itself gives the reason for the derivation [namely, "because I pulled him out"]."

(Here I have tried to stay as close to the text as possible.)

"...but it is true that the verb is not the same name in Egyptian as in Hebrew from which the derivation could have occurred". (Not sure I understand this.)

(Probably something about how the name is not derived from the same verb in Hebrew as in Egyptian?)

Cerberus

00:55

Then he goes on to describe the story Josephus recounts, about how Moses burns the tip of his tongue when putting the Pharaoh's burning coals in his mouth.

But I don't see how this is relevant to Moses's name.

Then there is a sentence that I don't understand:

"Based on that / from that moment on, the Hebrew people say that he became / was made of the tongue of his impeditor."

Or "based on that, they say that he was made of the tongue of (t)his Hebrew impeditor".

(There was this Hebrew sage who had impeded the death of Moses by pleading to the Pharaoh, possible suggesting the trick with the burning coals.)

Chirag

@simchona thanks :)

jake

01:15

@Cerberus Oh, he probably means the fact that Moses had a speech impediment. But just to be clear: he doesn't mention the possibility of the Hebrew verb meaning "You drew him out" instead of "I drew him out"?

Cerberus

@jake He says "first person" and nothing else, and reiterates this later by translating it into Latin extraxi, which is also first person. I am not sure how strong his Hebrew is, though...is the real origin of the name Moses known?

jake

@Cerberus Not really.

Cerberus

OK.

jake

@Cerberus Anyhow, I gotta run again. Thank you so much for your help!

Cerberus

Good luck with your essay, do visit us again!

I'm off to bed.

Mahnax

01:21

Good night, Cerby!

Cerberus

Bye, you too, eventually!

Mahnax

Someday!

Pratik

there are always going to be a few who are a bit naughty.

what is the meaning of "are always going to be"?

i always see are going to be ,but never see "always" between are and going to be .

cornbread ninja

04:09

@JSBձոգչ, @waiwai933 Nortonn strikes on Writers.SE.

waiwai933

06:18

@cornbreadninja Thanks; I dropped them a few notes about the history of NS.

Meysam

07:13

I want to start using Yo. Just don't know its exact usage.

Gigili

@Chirag Yes.

Meysam

07:31

Hey @Gigili how you doing?

Hey @Rachel, what brings you here today?

Gigili

@Meysam Oh, fine. I'm doing fine.

How are you?

Meysam

@Gigili I am fine too. Thanks

Cerberus

09:34

Morning.

Gigili

Hi!

cornbread ninja

13:28

@waiwai933 okay, good--I had just flagged two posts with a brief explanation before I sent you that message. I notified JSB because he had answered two or more of the questions.

Robusto

14:13

@cornbreadninja So why did @JSBձոգչ redirect him here?

Cerberus

Hello.

Robusto

Hi.

Cerberus

I am weeding out my subscriptions to stuff and switching to cheaper options where possible. It feels good.

Robusto

-1

Q: Commas in Google nGram

How can I include a "comma" in a Google nGram search? My problem is that I want to search for phrases like, "Yes, I do ." but Google nGrams uses commas to break up query terms, so it returns a comparison of the phrases "Yes" and "I do .". (My apologies if this question seems off-topic. I ask h...

Surely this is off-topic. Also it assumes facts not in evidence, e.g. that Google NGrams are a valuable tool for ELU users.

@Cerberus But everybody needs "stuff" — what makes you different?

Cerberus

@Robusto Oh, come on, it is a Meta question.

@Robusto I'd rather be needing stuff that I have to a lump sum for, thank you very much.

Robusto

14:27

You always pursue things too doggedly.

Cerberus

With the stuff I cancelled/switched just now, I will save about € 55 a month, while getting the same service.

Gigili

Have you noticed Carlo is not Italian?

cornbread ninja

@Robusto That is a fantastic question.

@Gigili since when?

Cerberus

@Gigili Really? I didn't know: then where is he from?

He sure sounds Italian.

Gigili

Sorry to contradict you, Carlo, but in Italian the term you chose, "poeta", is not a feminine noun. According to Zingarelli Dictionary, poeta is a masculin noun which very rarely can be used for a woman (normal term would be poetessa). According to your reasoning, then "mano" would be a masculine term, which is not the case as you know. I do not fully understand what you are aiming at with your question, but the example you quoted is not clarifying. And I support @tchrist's comment that Italian doesn't have neutral nouns. — Paola Jul 23 at 22:54

He doesn't know "poeta" is a masculine noun. He thinks Italian has 3 genders.

Robusto

14:43

You don't have to be Italian to be bad at English.

cornbread ninja

@Gigili That's an excellent point. +1

hello @simchona :)

user19161

@Gigili Well, unless you are really good in Italian, you can't tell that Carlo is not Italian either from this instance.

simchona

Hi @cornbread

cornbread ninja

@JasperLoy perhaps he speaks no language well.

and hello

user19161

@cornbreadninja Or perhaps this instance is a very special case that gives rise to confusion. As usual there are 9000 sides to every story.

cornbread ninja

14:51

@JasperLoy ahh, a nine-thousa-hedron.

RegDwight АΑA

@Gigili people don't have to, and most people don't, know shit about their mother tongue. They just use it. It's only when learning foreign languages that it becomes beneficial to be able to tell the masculine aspect from the preterite preposition.

cornbread ninja

I had my first real nightmare last night/this morning.

simchona

@reg why is this still undeleted?

3

Q: Like He Did With?

"He swept, mopped, and scrubbed the kitchen floor, like he did with the bedroom floor." Is the last part correct English? Or should it be: "He swept, mopped, and scrubbed the kitchen floor, like he did the bedroom floor."

grammaticality prepositions

user19161

@cornbreadninja What nightmare? Was any of us in it?

simchona

usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/175340-did.html

RegDwight АΑA

14:54

@simchona it will be soon enough, or it won't. It's just that soon enough hasn't arrived yet.

Cerberus

@Gigili I have to disagree here: he just doesn't know how grammar works and applies the terms incorrectly. While poeta is in fact a masculine noun in Italian, it is declined like a feminine noun: he doesn't understand or care to take into account this distinction. I still think he is Italian.

RegDwight АΑA

Yeah. My point.

cornbread ninja

@JasperLoy large commercial airplanes were nose-diving through the clouds and crashing every fifteen minutes. Everyone was outside, just staring in disbelief and trying to get out of the way when necessary. I woke up in the middle of the explanation I was getting from my old boss, which was that Fred Phelps had some demands that hadn't been met (and had somehow gathered the resources to carry out this plan).

For some reason, I couldn't go back to sleep.

user19161

@cornbreadninja Perhaps you saw the future before it happened.

cornbread ninja

@JasperLoy I certainly hope not.

RegDwight АΑA

14:59

-1

A: Difference between "heck" and "hell"

As far as i am concerned ,the use of both words differentiate from one contexte to an other, taking into account the moods,and references of the use of the two words. the four letters words connotate both of them with the dis-appreciated place , which said to be made to receive the sin makers d...

cornbread ninja

allow me to lighten the mood.

RegDwight АΑA

Insightful.

cornbread ninja

It is Caturday, after all.

RegDwight АΑA

Not sure who you're catering to.

Cerberus

To paraphrase Paola, there is a difference between the declension of a noun and its grammatical sex/gender. Poeta belongs to the -a declension, which is normally feminine; but this word happens to be an exception, and so it is masculine. The grammatical sex of a word is expressed in the agreement of adjectives and articles: it would normally be il poeta, not la poeta. Declension is expressed in inflection, which consists in the -a/-e endings here. — Cerberus 51 secs ago

cornbread ninja

15:02

@RegDwightАΑA that is just awful.

Cerberus

@cornbreadninja Awwwwwww I am dying of excessive exposure to cuteness.

RegDwight АΑA

@cornbreadninja fair enough, then look what I've goat here.

Cerberus

The cats win.

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightАΑA :D

Cerberus

Though these guys are certainly impressive too.

Or is that a screen shot from Skyrim?

RegDwight АΑA

15:04

@Cerberus well we all know what you look like on a normal hair day.

-1

Q: Proper Usage in following sentence

Suresh's dog is the one _ was hurt in the stampede. 1) that 2) which 3) who 4) whom Please tell the correct answer with appropriate explanation.

pronouns

ELL

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightАΑA I was just going there.

RegDwight АΑA

Got ninja'd by a ninja. Who'd of thunk.

simchona

@reg of?

RegDwight АΑA

@simchona is that your only objection?

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightАΑA yours was more informative. Deleted. There is another, however.

Cerberus

15:08

@RegDwightАΑA Haha yay, that is I!

Surely that is Photoshopped, isn't it?

RegDwight АΑA

If it is, then not by me.

Cerberus

I mean, those weird regular strands don't look like dog hair.

Moreover, I see no snake's heads.

RegDwight АΑA

Go see an ophtalmologist about that. On a second thought, go hear him.

Cerberus

And why would someone erase my other dog heads?

RegDwight АΑA

They is not erased. They is under hair.

Gigili

15:10

@Cerberus OK, well. Let's assume he doesn't know how grammar works. The question is, was he forced to comment on what he doesn't know?

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Hrmpf I suppose that is possible.

@Gigili Are you surprised?

Gigili

Ha! Double-triple ping. Hope you like it.

RegDwight АΑA

@Gigili you have to see the plus side. Without that comment, [h|w]e wouldn't have learned something about Italian.

Without posting rubbish on the Internet, people don't learn. (They also don't learn when they do post rubbish, but that's beside the point.)

Cerberus

The new Iphone?

Even more childish than before?

RegDwight АΑA

Too hideous, even by Apple's standards.

Cerberus

15:15

Is that possible?

cornbread ninja

> 5000 Vote to approve or reject suggested tag wiki edits
http://english.stackexchange.com/privileges/trusted-user

1) How do I get to the list of suggested tag wiki edits?
2) Why can I approve/reject with my current rep, but cannot edit them outright? (Sorry, I'm tired. Scroll up for the reason why.)

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus At zombo.com? Certainly.

2

cornbread ninja

@Cerberus I was just going to say that.

Cerberus

(It is actually a design they considered for the first Iphone.)

@RegDwightАΑA Yay!

@cornbreadninja Yay!

cornbread ninja

Those corners aren't rounded enough. The average user might hurt themselves.

RegDwight АΑA

15:16

Also, the antenna actually works. I can tell by the pixels.

Cerberus

@cornbreadninja The average user hurts himself by buying an Apple device anyway.

Or any user, really.

RegDwight АΑA

The average user also kills Chinese workers.

Murders, even!

cornbread ninja

@Cerberus :D

Robusto

@RegDwightАΑA What about above-average users? Do the death counts go up?

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Not to mention good taste.

RegDwight АΑA

15:21

@Robusto It depends on how much is subpar for the course.

Cerberus

And sanity.

Robusto

Well, how can we achieve subparity? That seems to be the question here.

RegDwight АΑA

That's actually easy. Start by achieving a sub.

Robusto

@RegDwightАΑA OK, done. What's next?

RegDwight АΑA

@Robusto sorry, I should have been more explicit. Start by achewing a sub.

Robusto

15:25

I'm not a-chewin' nothin'.

RegDwight АΑA

Okay, I will chew on your behalf.

Robusto

@RegDwightАΑA Just don't chew on my behind.

RegDwight АΑA

That would be quite a behindrance.

Robusto

But it's been tried before. Which is worse.

RegDwight АΑA

French. French tried. Then freedomed.

On a Triday, no less.

Cerberus

15:30

@Vitaly, @Aedia: suicidal worker termites squirt out blue poison when bitten.

►

arstechnica.com/science/2012/07/…

Only older termite workers do this, as their mandibles wear down and they become unfit for work.

The blue colour is from poisonous copper.

The ones with the blue strip are poisonous.

RegDwight АΑA

That is so two days ago.

Cerberus

NOU

RegDwight АΑA

Ask Bono for a retort.

Gigili

OK.

Then.

This is disgusting.

Go away.

Ah

Pah

RegDwight АΑA

There's an AWW room for all your non-termite needs.

Gigili

15:35

Bah

Quixotic

Hello everyone

RegDwight АΑA

15:48

I suggest you to read this question english.stackexchange.com/questions/66422/… and its answers. That is very helpful for who want to understand the usage of relative pronouns for PET and BRUTE animals. In your case, I think "Suresh's dog" is a PET. — Carlo_R. 19 mins ago

And hello Quixotic.

user19161

16:06

@Cerberus Looks scary.

Cerberus

Yup.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA The water is to wash down the termites after eating them.

Cerberus

Don't you mean to sprinkle on your coffin after eating them?

user19161

@Cerberus You can do the sprinkling for me. I would be in the coffin.

Cerberus

Exactly.

I will gladly bestow this final favour on you.

Gigili

16:12

@RegDwightАΑA What's the meaning of PET? I only know PEH.

RegDwight АΑA

I only know MEH and MUH.

Polyethylene terephthalate

| Section2 = | Section3 = | Section4 = | Section8 = }} Polyethylene terephthalate (sometimes written poly(ethylene terephthalate)), commonly abbreviated PET, PETE, or the obsolete PETP or PET-P, is a thermoplastic polymer resin of the polyester family and is used in synthetic fibers; beverage, food and other liquid containers; thermoforming applications; and engineering resins often in combination with glass fiber. The term polyethylene terephthalate is a source of confusion because this substance, PET, does not contain polyethylene. Thus, the alternate form, poly(ethylene terephthal...

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA That day you were a biologist and today you are a chemist. You know everything!

Cerberus

He probably means pets v. wild animals?

user19161

I want one more nominee to see what primary is like!

RegDwight АΑA

16:31

So? Go nominate yourself.

RegDwight АΑA

16:55

Yo @Matt @Cer or whoever needs reps, go lift my comment into an answer. I'd rather play piano.

AFKish

Cerberus

Commented.

Jez

when does kitfox come online on saturdays?

Robusto

I'll ask her secretary. Hold on.

Jez

17:11

damn

how dare she not be here at my beck and call?

Cerberus

I'm afraid she is scheduled for a baby-food appointment and two husband conversations this afternoon.

Can she call you back at your convenience?

Jez

well, cancel them!

ok what other females frequent this room?

Cerberus

I'm afraid her bosses will not allow her to change her schedule upon such short notice. Husband and children are not the easiest superiors one can have.

Do you count any?

Jez

huh?

Cerberus

Females.

Jez

17:16

i dont know

Matt Эллен

17:29

I think cornbreadninja, gigili and Spare Oom are Female

none of whom is here right now

@RegDwightАΑA, @Cerberus I agree with tchrist (there's a first) nearby is an adjective

it's not modifying an adjective or verb, it's modifying a noun (breakfast place)

Cerberus

It is all but meaningless, because this is a borderline case. It's just a word. And there is also the difference between adjective and attributive to consider.

@MattЭллен What do you call in India in I know this place in India?

Matt Эллен

ok

@Cerberus I don't know. sorry, I have just now become afflicted with great tiredness

Cerberus

Understandable.

You are absolved.

Jez

why is it kitfox is always here when i don't need her, and now, the kitfoxness of the room is weak

Cerberus

You're also always there when she doesn't need you, no doubt.

Matt Эллен

17:37

:D

@Cerberus it's difficult to break it up like that. "place in India" is a whole thing

Cerberus

Uh...

And a "place nearby" isn't?

Matt Эллен

well not as difficult because I can say "nearby place"

but not "in India place"

Cerberus

What is the significance of that?

Matt Эллен

I'm not sure. but shiftiness must mean something...

so if they can't be used in all the same places they probably should be categorised differently?

like in FF's adverb question

Cerberus

I think a near-by place is based on / derived from a place near-by, which in turn is derived from a place that is near by, which is derived from a place near by the lake.

Matt Эллен

17:44

I suppose you could say "India place", e.g. "My place in India" -> "My India place"

Cerberus

Anything can happen in language.

Matt Эллен

Yes Jasper

Cerberus

You can take any phrase and use it as a fixed phrase with a different function.

A forget-me-not, take-away food.

That doesn't mean that these phrases are a noun and an adjective, respectively, in these sentences:

> Mother dearest, please forget me not.

> Let's take away some oriental food.

Matt Эллен

yes

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен that is exactly the point. You cannot say "in India place".

You cannot say "here place", either.

In that position, you need an adjective.

Cerberus

17:50

Matt is trying to say that the letters n e a r b y must be the same part of speech in either construction.

Matt Эллен

Aye

Cerberus

Whereas I think we may be beyond the limits of where simple parts of speech are still useful categories in these examples.

Matt Эллен

but maybe my brain is waking up a bit

I can see how nearby can be an adverb

You eat nearby

You eat at a breakfast place nearby

Freecell helps me thinking

but then it is an adjective in "You eat at a nearby breakfast place"

But in "it is a place nearby" nearby is an adjective

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus I was waiting for you to say that. Much earlier, in fact.

I know you're no friends with any particular set of labels.

Cerberus

Indeed not.

But I'm willing to go along with a certain chosen set as long as it seems to be applied fairly consistently.

RegDwight АΑA

18:05

I think we should just say that all words belong to the category bobruysk, and apply that consistently.

@MattЭллен now, why can you say "nearby breakfast place", and "breakfast place nearby", but not "nearby place breakfast" or "place breakfast nearby"?

skullpatrol

Anybody read the story about the 8 month pregnant woman competing in the Olympics?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA you can say "place breakfast nearby" in instruction speak (e.g. "now empty bucket") you can't say "nearby place breakfast" because "place breakfast" isn't a noun

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен Place is the noun there.

If you have trouble with adjectival "breakfast", try a more basic adjective.

"A beautiful nearby place".

And obviously I don't mean place as a verb, either. Don't make this even more complicated.)))

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA I'm not denying it is derived from that, but I'm fairly sure "breakfast place" is accepted as a compound noun

@RegDwightАΑA hehehe, ok

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен well I just used your example.

But we can use the one from the actual question instead.

Again, if nearby is allowed to follow the noun and is still considered an adjective, why can't other adjectives pull that stunt off?

Do you know an old place? Do you know a place old?

Matt Эллен

18:15

this is a flower most beautiful

RegDwight АΑA

Ah, but that's poetic license.

Which is exactly why I linked to The City Beautiful.

user19161

@skullpatrol WTF?

Matt Эллен

yeah

RegDwight АΑA

But a place nearby is not poetic license. It's completely mundane.

We don't have that many poets in this world, trust me.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy It is a new record for most pregnant competitor!

user19161

18:17

@skullpatrol What is she competing in? Giving birth?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA You can't say "do you know a place quickly?" either

RegDwight АΑA

I was waiting for that.

Matt Эллен

good good

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy 10 m air rifle

RegDwight АΑA

Clearly not all adverbs are created the same, either.

user19161

18:18

@skullpatrol 10 m or 100 m?

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Not all men are created equal either.

RegDwight АΑA

Quickly does not behave in the same way as somewhere.

Matt Эллен

Nor can you say "do you nearby know a place?"

user19161

I think my English was OK until I joined ELU.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy At 8 months pregnant, most women aren't thinking about winning gold medals, but the amazing Nur Suryani Mohamed Taibi was when she competed in the women's 10m air rifle event earlier today.

user19161

18:20

Now I know not what is right and what is wrong.

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен exactly. You can't put somewhere or in India in that position, either.

user19161

@skullpatrol Ah, I know nothing about air rifle, but when I was in the army, the rifle range was 100 m.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA so nearby can only be used as an adverb is it's describing where something is? I guess we all side with Cerberus then

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен that's what I'm saying, yes.

Which is why I specifically labeled it as an adverb of place right there in my original comment.

Matt Эллен

OK :) I am happy with that.

RegDwight АΑA

18:22

Clearly it does not behave like quickly; but neither does it behave like old. It does, however, behave exactly like somewhere.

Which is all I'm saying. These are my two points.

Or three, if you will.

Matt Эллен

I will

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Here

BTW pardon my interruption Reg & Matt :)

Matt Эллен

S'OK :) we'd come to a consensus

skullpatrol

I should have waited.

RegDwight АΑA

Well at least we had a moderately interesting question today. Yay us.

user19161

18:29

@skullpatrol It's OK. Cut any time you want, we're not in the math room where there are some weird rules.

RegDwight АΑA

Especially with all the fluff that trickled in the entire morning.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Indeed, there are some large egoes there.

RegDwight АΑA

People keep saying that. Perhaps I should go visit someday.

user19161

@skullpatrol All egos there will be quietened when Jonas and I solve the millennium problems in future. :-)

RegDwight АΑA

All egos there will be quietened when I so much as show up.

My ego is inflatable to OVER 9000 Math chat rooms. Times pi.

user19161

18:33

@RegDwightАΑA Yeah, Kit likes to remark how huge you are.

RegDwight АΑA

I don't know if @Kit likes it but she has no other choice.

user19161

Need to poo, brb.

Cerberus

> ... there is a large partisan divide in acceptance of climate change, but most respondents said they base their acceptance on their personal experience of the weather.

Crazy.

RegDwight АΑA

@JasperLoy obligatory:

Apr 3 at 17:47, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@WillHunting just when I think you can't possibly make me roll my eyes harder at you, you go and say something like that.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus har har. them's the real ssyentists

Cerberus

18:36

Very scientific, absolutely.

RegDwight АΑA

Well I sure remember how weather used to be all snow, uphill, both ways.

These days it's Weather Light.

Matt Эллен

luckily Climate change doesn't need you to believe in the evidence, to allow it messed up your life

RegDwight АΑA

Luckily us morons will be dead before that. It's not our lives that will be messed up.

Matt Эллен

extreme weather due to climate change has happened this very year. it's getting more extreme way faster than scientists predicted

RegDwight АΑA

And our grandchildren will have been born into a world of extreme weather, so they'll just shrug it off as normal.

Matt Эллен

18:39

yay for assimilation

RegDwight АΑA

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skullpatrol

Why would anyone compete at 8 months pregnant? I don't get it...

Matt Эллен

to speed up labour

RegDwight АΑA

Compete in what?

skullpatrol

Olympics

RegDwight АΑA

18:40

But what discipline?

Matt Эллен

do they have a giving birth event?

RegDwight АΑA

Perhaps she's competing in getting her child born first.

skullpatrol

10m air rifle

RegDwight АΑA

That is a long rifle!

Matt Эллен

I imagine people at 8 months would have trouble placing

RegDwight АΑA

18:41

@MattЭллен hey, no sneaky jinxae's!

skullpatrol

She failed to qualify today anyway.

RegDwight АΑA

Participation is everything.

skullpatrol

(see link above)

RegDwight АΑA

Ah. That. Was directed at Jasper, so I didn't click.

Hm. How is 10m even a distance? I mean, it's air rifle, not darts.

Matt Эллен

she had an advantage of a thing to rest the gun on

user19161

18:43

Finished with the poo. Phew!

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Exactly. I was thinking if it might be a typo.

RegDwight АΑA

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xanjh/…

Funnehs via another room.

skullpatrol

10 metre air rifle

10 metre air rifle is an International Shooting Sports Federation (ISSF) shooting event, shot over a distance of from a standing position with a calibre air rifle with a maximum weight of . The use of specialised clothing is allowed to improve the stability of the shooting position and prevent chronic back injury which can be caused by the asymmetric offset load on the spine when the rifle is held in position. It is one of the ISSF-governed shooting events included in the Olympic games. The course of fire is an unlimited number of sighter shots followed by 60 competition shots for ...

RegDwight АΑA

Oh, and one more thing about @skullpatrol's link before I forget: was the pun in the headline intentional?

skullpatrol

"fails to deliver " what did they want?

RegDwight АΑA

18:51

My point exactly. Intentional or not, would get thwacked by Martha.

Well I wonder if I should go watch Dexter.

skullpatrol

I think its the result of an overly competitive society.

RegDwight АΑA

I think I shall.

skullpatrol

Enjoy.

RegDwight АΑA

Thanks.

Now where do I even switch this thing on?

Haven't watched a DVD in years.

skullpatrol

I can't even remember what "DVD" stands for.

RegDwight АΑA

18:55

Deedledoo versatile drag.

skullpatrol

That works.

RegDwight АΑA

I think I'll just press this big button over t

Matt Эллен

the red button. When in doubt, press that one

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