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12:36 AM
@Robusto Such an honour!
 
 
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6:14 AM
@Robusto It's a family major, and my father says the best and the worst things about medical majors are they're always high on demand
 
 
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8:46 AM
@Cerberus right that's a different infinitive
 
8:59 AM
My cat Behemoth
 
 
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11:23 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (61): A code or some code? by ledgerbench on english.SE
 
12:02 PM
@Robusto I can'd be doing absolutely nothing on two sites. I am barely finding the time to do absolutely nothing on one.
Maybe I could go look for more time behind the sofa, but who's got time for that.
 
12:52 PM
Hello.
How does 'brightness' relate to 'cold'? Does anyone know?
Coldness*
 
@DecapitatedSoul Is this a riddle? If not, you should give a lot more context.
 
@DecapitatedSoul they're both sharp at extremes. imagine a bright light in your eyes when you're hungover, or having to hold a lump of ice in your bear hands
 
@DecapitatedSoul 'Cold' is the abstract noun for the adjective 'cold'.
 
Here's my answer about phonesthesia: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/532061/why-do-some-words-with-similar-meanings-sound-similar-as-well/532065#532065
I got a comment on my answer saying: Are you kidding me, gelidus has nothing to do with brightness? have you ever seen snow? I mean, of course it's rare in Italy, but if we say that words are arbitrary, that also means that the connections are arbitrary, and non-connection is not the null-hypotheses.
The intense, at times malicious, satisfaction implied in gloating is in some vague way also akin to brilliance, whereas globe and gland are round or spherical and hence slippery. Some of the words listed above are related, for example, glass and glare; gleam, glimmer, and glimpse. But glacier, like German Gletscher, goes back to Latin gelidus (frost) (compare Engl. con-geal and jelly). Neither gelidus nor its English cognate cold has anything to do with radiance.
The comment was on this part of the answer.
 
Cool.
haha
anyway
So that's the context.
But what is it you want to know?
 
1:03 PM
I don't understand the point the commentor is making.
:/
 
Are you asking if cognates of gelidus in English also cognates of the group of glisten/glean (ie 'light') words?
@DecapitatedSoul Before the content, a side note. That commentor has... interesting things to say.
Not always connected with the mainstream.
And presents in a ... interesting manner.
That aside...
 
by looking at etymonline...
the 'cold;frozen' words are cognate with IE gel-
 
The citation I've quoted says 'Neither gelidus nor its English cognate cold has anything to do with radiance.' and the commentor says otherwise.
ah
 
and the 'light;bright' words are cognate with IE ghel
 
1:08 PM
Should I remove that citation from my answer? @Mitch
I think I understand but cannot explain...
 
In your answer you have cut and pasted quite a bit.
 
You should present as much as is illuminating.
I think for a question like this it would be best to show the nuance, ie that the mapping is not one-to-one.
ie that 'gl-' in English may have multiple sources.
or that any particular pattern you see may not be universal.
"'gl-' = aomething to do with light" surely happens, but not every 'gl-' is associated with 'light'
 
@DecapitatedSoul There is a large part of your answer that is not quoted. But it looks like quoted material.
I suspet that you should quote it and give a link to where you quoted it from.
 
1:13 PM
I've messed up... it was a very long answer. Some of them were made by me... like the 'y-' ones.
 
Also you should give a short summary at the beginning.
 
Also it seems you haven't read your own cut and pastings.
Here's a piece directly from that answer:
> Neither gelidus nor its English cognate cold has anything to do with radiance.
 
I've got that from Google Books: books.google.com.pk/…
 
Also, instead of saying 'Source', you should give the name and author of the book in your answer (in addition to the link). It's good (= expected) bibliographic practice and also links tend to change over time.
 
1:18 PM
glue and glob come to mind
 
@DecapitatedSoul That would have answered your first question here on chat.
I'm surprised such heavy weather is made over the very particular consonant clusters of English (a stop followed by a liquid). Just say it is a subword cognate and be done.
That is, 'mVt' and variants should have something to do with mothers
 
John Lawler said he's done a bit of research on the topic... He gave me his research papers. I've quoted the 'pr' from one of his papers.
The papers were extensive and I did not read all.
 
Also, "phone aesthemes"? That is a bit too poetic.
 
Phone + aesthetics
Yes
 
@DecapitatedSoul Yes, he has done some clear headed research on it.
 
Lawler has been on ELU for a while.
Also, phonosemantics is not some new thing.
 
Yes, it has existed for centuries
 
@DecapitatedSoul So in summary, brightness (in the root ghel-) does not relate to coldness (in the root gel-).
 
Thank you so much, Mitch. :) I've just edited my answer.
Brilliant
 
@DecapitatedSoul Nice, thanks. A summary sentence or two at the top would be even better!
 
1:31 PM
Like?
I read many things and racked my brain... so I don't know what to write.. :/ Should it be 'although they share the same PIE root 'ghel-' but the phenomena is called phonesthetics'??
 
@DecapitatedSoul What do you mean? A super long article of cut and paste like you wrote needs a summary. Answers here aren't just lists of example.
 
@DecapitatedSoul Your answer isn't about 'ghel-' it's about phonosemantics (or better 'sound symbolism'). Say something about how some consonant clusters smaller than classic phonemes in English show some association with meaning. And that this is called phonosemantics or sound symbolism and here are a whole slew of examples.
 
Thanks again. :)))
 
@DecapitatedSoul Oh. Brilliant, bright, brisk.
@DecapitatedSoul NP
I notice that you've been actively answering recently with good content. I'm just offering unsolicited advice so you can up your game.
 
1:42 PM
👀
I'm all ears!!!
I will admit that I have not studied linguistics/ English in college or uni.
I have very little knowledge
Just searching things up and learn
 
2:00 PM
> Pray pity Peter Oliver
He pined the wherewithal of her
Whose hand he’ll petty brawl over
This day he’ll heed the call of her
Pay pretty Penny Talioferro
 
 
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3:13 PM
@CowperKettle "hey, Blondie, you know what you are? Just a dirty son of a"
 
 
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5:12 PM
I must say I'm quite impressed with how things are getting handled in Germany.
Schools are open again, but only for the older students, who are disciplined enough to keep distance and wear a mask. Enabling them to take their final exams and move on to the university.
Smaller businesses have re-opened as well. Everyone providing disinfectant, even masks, and limiting the number of customers in the shop as they see fit.
Businesses that are still closed get money from the state. You just fill out an online form and two days later you have the money.
Select healthy major airlines are getting bailed out.
Starting today everyone must wear a mask in shops and on public transport, and starting today absolutely everyone does. Just two days ago some people did and some didn't, but now literally everyone does. Even though it goes against every fiber of the local soul, and is indeed at odds with the very Constitution.
Earlier today on the bus one lady and her child didn't have masks, they had lost theirs somewhere. Immediately some other lady reprimanded them, asking them to at least use their scarves.
The Germans are very disciplined, and have absolutely no quibbles confronting anyone who isn't.
Every resident of this state I'm in gets five masks for free. You just walk to your local town hall and show your ID, and that's it. And if you have children, you'll find your masks in the post and don't even have to leave the house.
Country-wide, some 15k intensive care beds are still free as of right now. You don't feel well, you call up 911 and that's it. They'll take care of the rest, and you don't have to pay a dime.
Of course every interest group is still quarrelling for their own cause. No matter what gets done, someone will be strictly against it, and someone else will complain it's nowhere enough.
Democracy.
 
👍👍👍
 
As the German saying goes, "it's complaining on a very high level".
Overall, you always feel in safe hands.
I'll be having my next violin lesson tomorrow via Skype, and the day after our first Web-based choir rehearsal via Zoom or some such.
Everyone is absolutely enjoying the free time, but absolutely no one is sitting on their hands.
 
6:24 PM
> Je suis seul ce soir (I am alone tonight) - 🎧LIVE AUDIO!🎧 [👇READ DESCRIPTION👇]
Why do people keep naming their pieces in French only to then go and translate it right back into English again.
Just name it in English.
Or French.
Or Kabardino-Balkarian.
Whatever.
But do make your snodding mind up.
They will name it "three waltzes" in French, with five typos, and then translate it into English, with seven.
Vom.
 
@RegDwigнt, You seem to be very bored.
 
Do I? I have not been bored in thirty years.
Boredom is for people with no skill or purpose.
 
Dunno... Just saw you rambling so thought you'd be bored.
 
Also I'm playing Animal Crossing all this time, 25/8, so I can't be bored by definition.
 
6:30 PM
@DecapitatedSoul rambling is my default modus operandi in this room. And everyone else's, mind.
It's not meant as a manifestation of being bored yourself, it is meant as an instance of entertaining others.
 
I misinterpreted then XD
 
In plain English, just post your shit here.
(Can't be actual shit, though — that's what the main site is there for.)
 
Haha
Gotcha
Woah... I just clicked something and it led me to stackexchange.com/leagues/97/month/english/…
And it says I'm on top :///
Trying to figure it out
 
For me it says I'm on top. And right above me on top, at the very top it says "Physical fitness".
Fake news.
Lesson learned: never click on something.
3
 
Lol
'Physical Fitness SE'
I ain't got an account in that SE
Yet it says I'm on top
Noice
Decapitated Soul - Month rank: #1
Meh
 
6:39 PM
 
See? You're not on top. I'm on top. Must be because my monthly rank is much higher than yours.
 
Your rank is 57
 
Yes and I have worked very unhard on that one.
You've changed 16 times, too. I don't do my laundry that often, I've only changed thrice.
 
What does 'change' mean here?
Can't get my head round that
 
7:30 PM
@RegDwigнt Except Jasper
 
 
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9:06 PM
@Færd Perhaps. I'm not sure.
 
 
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11:50 PM
@Cerberus You're welcome.
 

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