@tchrist - Stay safe, too. Colorado is starting to take off... I'd say PA is as bad or worse, but since we don't test anyone, who knows?

My health-care kids... the ER doctor is given one N95 mask per day, that's all. They are expected to use it all day.

The nurse gets no masks at all. For some reason, they failed the fitting test for N95, so they're not wasting any on him. O_o.

Reading about Italy makes me want to cry. I can't imagine that happening here, but it most probably will.

I'm making masks, using MERV 14 mesh between two layers of tightly woven and shrunk cotton. I don't know how effective they are, but they are better than nothing, and knowing how ill fitting OR masks are, mine fit without "holes". They're good. I might try to make them out of HEPA filter mesh. I just wish I knew what I was doing, that I could maximize their effectiveness.

worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/…

I'm starting to feel better about this, knowing that 20% of Italy's healthcare providers have tested positive for coronavirus, but they're still on their feet taking care of other coronavirus patients. It's still the only pathogen I have truly been worried about, but I'm not as worried as I was. Time will tell.

My kids aren't taking it well, though, and who can blame them? They've never seen anything like this, and they are stuck in the middle. One lost their job as well.

Oh, dear.

I heard from a national guardsman claiming inside info - he was called to active duty last week - that our country will be on lockdown and we will need to shelter in place, like very soon.

Here, the state is funding wages of temporarily superfluous employees during crises.

I'm doing it anyway; my leg doesn't want to take me anywhere.

Shelter in place Chinese style, or Korean/European style, where you can still go to the doctor or to supermarkets?

What's a caveat to a caveat?

@Cerberus Yeah, we're supposed to have something similar, but it's not going through very quickly. The individual states are doing better than the centralized government.

@adamaero A limitation to a limitation.

exception to an exception

@anongoodnurse Ah, OK.

...but in a word.

@adamaero Yes.

@Cerberus Italian style. In the house except for one person per family to buy meds or food.

Ah, OK.

With the guardsmen to enforce it.

Non-essential shops are still open here, but they get few customers anyway, and people seem to be quite careful inside. So I wonder how much of a difference it would make to close them.

sub-caveat, anti-caveat, double-caveat, or walla-walla-bing-bang

This is something our children will remember, but not the government (I fear), unfortunately.

I have heard that supermarkets aren't a big factor in infections either (but I could be wrong).

However, people are flocking to parks and beaches here, walking too close together.

Some towns have blocked all roads to their beaches.

@Cerberus Meh. I go around midnight when there's no one there.

Wise.

duple-caveat!

@Cerberus Craziness which will soon be regretted.

Mine closes at 22.00, but I suppose I could try going around 21.45.

Everyone stay safe please. You too, Cerberus.

@anongoodnurse Yeah. The government has sent all citizens a special message on their phone telling them to keep the required distance in parks and beaches, or else they may proceed to a lock-down.

@anongoodnurse I'm doing my best!

I'm fairly young and healthy, though that is no guarantee.

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Myth busters

@CowperKettle true

If employees are being trained on the job, what do we call the person doing the training? Tutor? Teacher? Coach? Trainer? The training in question is a pharmacovigilance training for employees of a pharma company.

What do I call an "immediate supperior of an employee" briefly in a form?

This is a general form template about employee training.

The employee undergoes training, after which he signs on the form, and his immediate superior also puts a signature.

But this superior can be coming from any tier of the corporation.

In Russian, the generic is ФИО руководителя:

Which stands for Superior's Full Name

But I'm unsure whether Superior will be understood in English

Maybe Superior is too quaint for use in English

@CowperKettle usually "line manager"

@MattE.Эллен Thank you!

np

I know that Another Qualified Person: is correct, because Person is singular, but still it feels like Other can be used. An odd feeling.

I'm having a mild headache but I don't feel like going to the doc. I don't want to be penned for 14 days in State City Hospital No. 40, no Sir.)))

@Robusto that's a gem. Where do you find those things.

@CowperKettle superior can be used, but the most common "official" term for the person an employee reports to is manager.

@RegDwigнt I read a lot, look at a lot of videos, etc. That particular composer I learned about from an article in The New York Times. So I had to listen to a lot of videos right away, and YouTube was most obliging.

Here's the Times article: nytimes.com/2020/03/20/arts/music/heinrich-schutz.html

An excerpt:

> What grabbed me was the importance Schütz gave to making the German text clear. In faithfully rendering the clipped rhythms and natural cadences of the language, the music taps into the deeper meaning of the words. Schütz drives home the emotions through deliberate repetitions of overlapping phrases. As a devotee of musical theater, I was struck by how Schütz seemed to anticipate the word-setting techniques of Broadway songsmiths.

So I kinda had to check that mofo out.

Hi all

I have a question

Consider this sentence:

<<Two of Fanny’s cousins, July and Maria, are both in love with Henry Crawford, a rich noble who has moved Mansfield Park with his sister Mary>>

Should I use "has moved" or "had moved"?

I'm using historic present

I would use nobleman.

Since you use are, I'd probably use has moved.

Many thanks!

By the way, what you write is that Crawford has moved the park, not moved to the park.

Oh

I missed "to"

OK.

thanks again

Good luck.

In an official form template, can one write Date of Plan: _______ to be filled in to indicate the date when the plan was produced (in this form, the plan in question is a training plan for a particular employee, for which the form would be filled)?

or.. Date of drafting of the Plan?

Date of production of the Plan..

@CowperKettle Better to be more specific. Plan Drafting Date or Plan Production Date or Plan Starting Date or Plan Inception Date, etc.

@Cerberus: How are things in Amsterdam. Are you quarantined or "sheltering in place" yet?

@Robusto Hello.

Shops are still allowed to stay open, although most are very quiet, empty, or closed.

All cafés, restaurants, parties, and events, etc. have been closed or cancelled.

And all those who can work at home, must do so.

All schools are closed.

Looks like you had a downtick in new cases. Hope that lasts.

virusncov.com/covid-statistics/netherlands

Well, the number of cases says little here: they only test people working in healthcare, and the weak/old.

The numbers of people in hospital and in IC have been rising steadily.

How are things near you?

We're doing all right, but NOTHING is going on. My cycling club even cancelled rides. You can still shop in stores, however, but a lot of food and staples are cleared out.

Yeah, it's boring.

Can't your club still ride as long as people keep a distance of 1,5 m?

The food should probably return soon?

@Cerberus You would think so. But last week the Board got all excited and cancelled all rides. I voted against that, but was overruled.

Feels like a slow-moving blizzard here, only the weather is nice.

When the measures were announced, loo paper was sold out. But it has miraculously made a come-back.

Yeah. I expect it will here as well.

Do you still ride on your own?

Yeah, but I've been a bit under the weather so not a lot right now.

Every time I ride my symptoms get worse, so I've been walking for exercise. It's not as good.

I'm going to keep it light till next week, when the weather is supposed to be above 20 °C every day.

The thing I miss in rides now, though, is stopping for coffee.

Well at least someone is putting the corona downtime to good use.

And now so can you by watching that video.

A whopping 42 minutes of your time. Yay.

@Robusto The most important thing, one could say.

@RegDwigнt I'm not watching that now, but he's probably right.

Still only 65 cases reported in my state. No telling how many there really are.

Yeah.

Almost a thousand in my province

@RegDwigнt don't be so dolorous

@CowperKettle What's with the violet background

@RegDwigнt I only watched 12 minutes before I remembered that I don't have a dog in this fight. Very well done, of course, but this sort of thing cuts into my music pleasure.

@M.A.R. I've never been dolorous in my entire life.

@Robusto well I don't have a dog in the fight, either. Indeed, most of the time watching it I spent wanting to leave a comment saying "easy solution: just post original content".

Like, duh.

So I'm being asked to pass judgment on whether this is flaggable or not: "@Alexandr_TT Тесно общались, как мне казалось в дружественной атмосфере, обменивались комментариями, отвечали порою в одних топиках - западная культура во всей красе (лицемерие у них и правда сильно распространено). А потом аааааааааа эта обезьяна меня обворовывает :3"

@Robusto depends on context...who is the monkey?

looks like Brady fought the law and the law won @Robusto

The emoji at the end looks obscene.

.

Why is there so much nonsense in social and political theory?

@Robusto It looks like all three messages were flagged simply for being off-topic in the SO.ru room.

Those guys will often do that for whatever reason.

Seeing how all three messages have been moved to their special place for everything off-topic, the flags can now be marked as having been dealt with.

@Færd because social and political studies are disproportionately populated by the severely unqualified to do anything of value.

If you can't play the cello, everyone can hear that you can't play the cello.

If you can't steer an excavator, you'll be sued out of existence for the very first house that you knock over.

But if you don't know anything about society, you can still write a paper or fifty on how it functions.

And nobody will sue you, and many might listen.

There's no repercussions for not knowing the first thing about society or politics. Indeed, you may even get elected mayor, senator, president.

@CowperKettle Yes, I can see it lasting until October. But not this next one.

2021 or 2022.

the numbers coming out of NYC appear to agree

They should turn all drive-thru restaurants into testing stations, immediately.

Pipe dream^

@skullpatrol and you get some fries with that too.

@Mitch heat consumes cold preserves

starve a cold feed a fever

Other way around pal

feed a fever starve a cold

lol

Covid has a nasty fever

I think unless you have a perforated bowel, some kind of food is always good. But for a flu, nutritive liquids?

@skullpatrol I haven't been able to get a good comparison. I've seen all sorts of comparisons, but the ones with a column for covid-19 all say something like 'sometimes has {sniffles, sore throat, diarrhea, etc etc}'

Infections have fevers

What makes my blood boil, if that's really what you're saying a fever is, is when...

when people spell it "ya'll".

also "woah"

special place in hell, putting-your-contacts-in-after-chopping-serrano-peppers hell.

sprinkling-lemon-juice-on-paper-cuts hell.

GI-trouble-sitting-in-the-middle-seat-during-Wagner hell

hell^

So has Italy.

It's coming.

It doesn't have to be, but it is.

How else will we keep the stock market running? Some people just have to understand that this is more important.

Business are people by legal definition. And if they outlive their employees, then the country comes out ahead.

Win win. Except for all those dead people. But honestly, the economy must go on.

It's just going to cost some lives, but most of those lives aren't working anymore so don't count. Doctors and nurses excepted.

Sorry, I made the mistake of listening to the daily propaganda report from $$Pravda$$.

You are forgiven pal.

Can't believe this one isn't closed yet.

@Robusto well good thing we kept it open, because your guess was wrong! The answer is Ken!

I thought it was Barbie!

That is why we go over these things.

At first you didn't know the answer, but then you Ken it.