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00:23
@M.A.R. We certainly have them here. But we call them "Titans of Industry" whose minions are "lobbyists."
Others just call them by their generic name, thieves.
 
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08:22
So bid, bade/bid, bidden/bid (as in he bade them farewell) is cognate with German bieten; whereas bid, bid, bid (as in she bade $100 for the antique) is cognate with German bitten, and the two come from different PIE roots.
 
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13:37
@Færd Different roots, really?
@CowperKettle Hehe.
How very EU.
@Færd Ditionary.com suggests they are from the same root.
14:12
@CowperKettle Hmm is this about oil prices?
Neftx = nafta, oil?
And po = at?
OK.
Poor Putin.
@Færd The Oxford English Dictionary seems to agree with you, by the way.
@CowperKettle Yeah, I have seen that one.
i think i found a mistake in the OED
14:14
Oh, dear!
under the definition of "virus" they call it an "organism"
but their definition of "organism" involves "living" which viruses are not
unless, "living" means reproducing only
Hmm.
> Viruses are considered by some to be a life form, because they carry genetic material, reproduce, and evolve through natural selection, although they lack key characteristics (such as cell structure) that are generally considered necessary to count as life. Because they possess some but not all such qualities, viruses have been described as "organisms at the edge of life",[8] and as replicators.[9]
Wikipaedia.
It seems the issue is debatable.
yeah, I agree
one of the lies we tell children is that they are not "living"
Mar 14 at 11:53, by skillpatrol
Noun: virus (countable and uncountable, plural viruses or (proscribed) viri or (proscribed) virii)
  1. Wikispecies
  2. (archaic) Venom, as produced by a poisonous animal etc.
  3. A submicroscopic, non-cellular structure consisting of a core of DNA or RNA surrounded by a protein coat, that requires a living host cell to replicate, and often causes disease in the host organism.
  4. 2001, Leslie Iversen, Drugs: A Very Short Introduction (Oxford 2001, p. 64)
  5. Viruses are the smallest and most simplified forms of life.
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Viruses are the smallest and most simplified forms of life.
Mar 14 at 11:55, by skillpatrol
Noun: life (usually uncountable, plural lives)
  1. (uncountable) The state of organisms preceding their death, characterized by biological processes such as metabolism and reproduction and distinguishing them from inanimate objects; the state of being alive and living.
  2. (biology) The status possessed by any of a number of entities, including animals, plants, fungi, bacteria, and sometimes viruses, which have the properties of replication and metabolism.
  3. The animating principle or force that keeps an inorganic thing or concept metaphorically...
viruses, which have the properties of replication and metabolism.
@Cerberus plural viruses or (proscribed) viri or (proscribed) virii)
is that Latin^
viri or virii?
14:41
> Compliance with personal data storage terms
Would this be understood as "duration of data storage"?
I mean, specified lenghths of time for which each set of personal data must be stored.
"Terms" has different meanings so I'm unsure of using it.
@skillpatrol There is no plural in Latin: it is a mass noun "slime".
So use viruses in English.
@CowperKettle I would read it as "conditions" first.
So no.
@Cerberus why do they say "proscribed"?
@skillpatrol Proscribed means forbidden.
Thank you.
If there is no plural in Latin, it would be wrong to invent a Latin plural.
And "virii" would never ever be correct even if it did have a plural.
Only words with a singular on -ius could ever have a plural on -ii.
14:51
ok
There you go!
15:07
> This information letter signed by an authorized person of the Company should be submitted in hard copy to the territorial body of Russia's Federal Communications Authority corresponding to the place of registration of the Company.
I wonder if this will be understood rightly. The Federal Authority has an office in each Russian region, and a company registered in the Siberian Federal Region should only submit its petitions to the office of the Authority in that particular region.
To which office a letter should be submitted it governed by the registration address of the company's office.
Sometimes there might be several official offices of an authority per a large city. And each company should only submit petitions to a particular office by place of registration (по месту регистрации)
15:36
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in title (25): ```Will``` or ```Going to``` by Stacy on english.SE
 
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17:31
@Cerberus Yeah I cannot judge between those sources. I took the German cognates from ODO and the PIE roots from Wiktionary: bʰewdʰ for bieten and gʷʰedʰ- for bitten.
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I guess not many people in here watched the latest Dem debate between Sanders and Biden a couple nights ago.
It was a bitter reminder to see Biden lie so brazenly. And it's a shame to watch him (instead of a decent person who his opponent is) coast to the general election to face off with the liar in chief.
To be clear tho, and to repeat myself, if that happens, I think any responsible person who has a say in the election must vote for Biden. But it's a shame nevertheless.
Here's a good analysis of the debate: BERNIE VERSUS BIDEN: WHO WON THE DEBATE?.
17:47
An example:
> Sanders: One more time. Were you on the floor, time and time again, for whatever reason, talking about the need to cut Social Security and Medicare and veterans’ programs?
Biden: No, I did not talk about the need to cut any of those programs.
Another:
> Biden: You get rid of the nine Super PACs you have?
Sanders: I don’t ... nine ... I don’t have any Super PACs.
Biden: You have nine. Do you want me to list them?
Sanders: Yeah. You go ahead and list them.
Biden: OK. Come on. Give me a break. Come on.
And yes, in fact he has none, you compulsive liar.

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