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tchrist

03:37

@Cerberus So much for that "No, we can't do that, it's the EU" idea, eh? Italy has just gone and put sixteen million people under full lockdown à la chinoise. Remember me as much as saying that they had to do that and you didn’t believe it possible "in the EU"?

Cerberus

Did I say that?

I think I said something about locking the border between countries.

tchrist

You did.

Cerberus

That, too, can be done, but it is probably easier to lock down a province.

No need to invoke special clauses.

But, yes, it is a drastic measure.

tchrist

It's all of Lombardy and some seven surrounding provinces. Milan and Venice just got a three-week "holiday".

Cerberus

Though no doubt less drastic than in China.

People may still leave or enter when it's "urgent", or so I read.

tchrist

03:41

I don't think there are drones chasing people around telling them to put on masks.

Cerberus

Hehe.

Unlikely.

I wish we were quarantined from tourists.

The streets are still chock full.

tchrist

Who the hell hangs out in crowds in Europe now? Are they daft?

I guess that's why state-imposed draconian measures are needed; people are not taking it seriously enough to keep themselves safe.

Cerberus

Well, we have only 2 known cases in the city yet.

tchrist

> As the government met late into the night on Saturday, ministers insisted that the proposals were merely a draft. Confusion spread about whether officials would actually block travel or only recommend against it.

As soon as the draft became public on Saturday evening, shocked regional and municipal leaders in the north argued that they were caught off-guard and that implementing the rules so suddenly would be impossible.

Mr. Conte also announced early Sunday morning that the government would extend less restrictive measures previously imposed in the north, such as the closure of museums…

@Cerberus Yes, you still fall behind German and France and Spain and Austria and Switzerland.

Cerberus

Hmm.

So chances are still slight that you should catch it here.

They'll go up.

tchrist

03:46

Yes.

So they're doing to the whole country what they previously were doing to the now-locked regions only.

Cerberus

Indeed.

tchrist

No funerals.

That's clearly the secret to making sure people stop dying. :)

> Mr. Conte said that the national government’s regional partners had been consulted and that the authorities would need to approve special travel permissions in or out of the designated areas for family or work emergencies. He said the police would stop travelers to check on their reasons for leaving the locked-down areas.

The measures that the State is allowed to take in order to protect itself from harm should not be underestimated.

Here at least we've got constitutional history (read: Supreme Court cases) stretching back a full two centuries (1820) saying that severe quarantines were legal. This has been reinforced in various decisions since then, including at the end of Victoria's day.

The weirdest thing here though is that it's pretty much up to the state and local authorities to do anything needing being done. Our governor has been working on drafts of emergency resolutions conveying/authorizing various sorts of heightened powers.

At least your highschoolers didn't get stuck eating a rent-a-granny's ravioli for the next three weeks.

> People with fevers, even if they had not yet been tested for the virus, are barred from leaving their homes, Mr. Conte said.

Violating quarantine there can now apparently get you fines and up to five months in jail besides.

Italy is actually about 10% bigger than Colorado.

I'm talking area, of course. It has more than 10 times our population.

I fear this is only the beginning. They'll likely extend its geographic reach soon enough.

Cerberus

04:35

It is possible.

We have to trust the institutes.

They are our wise women and men.

Færd

11:21

Anyone familiar with guitar symbols around here?

Do you know what "L.V." means in the circled part?

I'm trying to play Quadrivial Quandary by Andrew York. Turns out I can't even read it.

BV4, I suppose, means barring strings 1-4, and harmV means playing the harmonic A on the fifth string, if I'm not mistaken. I don't get "L.V." tho. Is it something other than the open E string?

Cameron O'Connor - Quadrivial Quandary by Andrew York

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Færd

11:38

On a more successful note, I reduced the number of open Chrome tabs on my phone from 45 to 29. Yay.

Mitch

14:37

@Færd It means 'Laissez Vibrer' which conveniently is the same in English 'Let Vibrate'.

Færd

@Mitch Great! Thanks!

Do you play the guitar?

Mitch

Which is kind of silly because

1) that should already be notatable by the note length

2) everyhthing on the guitar is 'let vibrate' on open strings. You notate when to -stop- those

Færd

True.

Mitch

@Færd I -can-. Do I? I didn't have a guitar for awhile and then finally got one about 10 years ago and every time i try to play it it sucks.

Maybe it's me, maybe it's the guitar.

I could blame George Bush, or maybe go a little further back, like maybe the British.

I should probably blame the guitar store seller.

CowperKettle

Yoga Pants - Tim Hawkins Greatest Hits & Bits

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Nice song

Færd

14:44

@Mitch Haha you should trace it back to Spain or wherever they designed this faulty instrument.

I guess god doesn't work for you.

@Mitch Maybe it means let it vibrate thru the following bars as long as it's possible

Mitch

@CowperKettle +1

@Færd It's probably a Yamaha. I blame the storage conditions on transfer from the manufacturing plant, and at the store.

@Færd Why you tempt me to blasphmeme?

@Færd That's what I do for everything. More sound is always better.

When I say "That's what I do", I mean -if- I were to play which is like virtually never.

Robusto

@Mitch Well, that depends on the genre. Classical players will mute strings at the end of a note value, Other genres, like rock and folk, not necessarily.

Mitch

By 'virtually' I mean 'hardly'.

By 'hardly never', I mean 'hardly ever'

By 'I mean' I mean 'I mean'

Robusto

I used to have a guitar. Then one day my son borrowed it. Now I have none.

Mitch

@Robusto Thanks to amps, you touch the body of an electric guitar and a chord plays.

@Robusto haha. kids.

Robusto

14:53

Yep.

Mitch

It's gone through cycles for me. Get then something, they never use it, eventually I start using it, then they borrow it, I don't see it for years. Then I find it buried in a closet and I start using it again.

All my current clothes are hand-me-ups.

Except for socks and underwear.

yecchh

Robusto

The problem with being a casual guitar player (steel-string acoustic) is that you never really build up the calluses necessary to play without bleeding.

Mitch

@Robusto Look man it's hard enough getting all the notes right with the right fingering and all. You want me to keep track of how it -sounds-?

@Robusto Ow.

Robusto

@Mitch Not me. But composers can be fussy about that sort of thing.

Mitch

Composers just take a big handful of notes, throw them over their back onto staff paper and say 'hey, play this!'

Robusto

14:59

That's the lazy route. Very talented composers can make things much harder on you if they really try.

Here are some classical guitarists playing Metallica:

Rodrigo y Gabriela - Orion (Studio Version)

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Mitch

My reaction is usually 'Why would they even -do- that?" or "This guy never even picked up a kazoo!"

Robusto

See, the worst are those who know to a millimeter what is possible to play for your instrument, and they take it up to that line all the time.

I'm looking at you, Richard Strauss.

Mitch

Haha the joke's on him because he's dead.

Robusto

At that point in his life, it was a career move.

Mitch

There some people who you wish would make such a career move.

Robusto

15:05

I can think of a few. Mostly politicians.

Mitch

Like, to make this topical, you're feeling a little warmish and think "Hey, maybe I -will- accept that invitation to the White House."

But back to music, just because you're tall doesn't make you a good basketball player, but it sure is necessary.

wait...

just because you have skeletal elongated hands doesn't make you a good musician, but really, do you need all those notes?

Robusto

There is definitely an advantage to long, skinny fingers, especially on the guitar. Which is why I never pestered my son to get my guitar back.

There are some instruments which, to play well, cause you pain. Usually those are string instruments, in my experience.

Mitch

All those blowing instruments hurt my cheeks.

Robusto

I tried for a while to play the cello, and my left hand hurt so much I quietly shelved that notion.

@Mitch As the jazz musicians say, if you can't blow, you suck.

But wind instruments are generally not painful to play—except sometimes for the listener.

Mitch

This will probably sound too troglodytish, but doesn't synthesizers and midi and composing software obviate the need entirely of years of full days of painful practice?

@Robusto a poorly played clarinet or violin hurts your ears.

or opera

like stepping on mating cats.

Robusto

15:17

@Mitch No. Instruments are expressive extensions of human beings that can't be duplicated except through much, much more work on a synth. That is not to say synths can't be musical—they certainly can—but in their own idiom. To reproduce the the clarinet opening of Rhapsody in Blue it would take hours on MIDI to do what the clarinetist just ... performs. And even then it would probably sound like shit.

Look at all the shit I give @RegDwigнt when he uses MIDI instruments on his compositions. The music is good, but the performance leaves something to be desired.

A real musician on a real instrument would make all the thousands of little phrasing and expression choices effortlessly, but it would take days to replicate all those on a computer even if you could figure them out.

Mitch

@Robusto That's what all the music teachers would have you believe.

Robusto

Nah, it's just reality.

Reality has a way of creeping up on all your fantasies and, when you're not looking, lunging with tooth and claw.

Mitch

@Robusto I'm gonna predict that there's gonna be an electrical engineer that could come up with a button on the synthesizer called 'Humanize' that would do just fine.

a couple of capacitors, a transistor or two, and you got Glenn Gould.

@Robusto Reality is overrated.

Most of that music I've attempted to learn how to play, while it's awful in real life, sounds perfect in my head.

Robusto

@Mitch Sure. But it ain't here yet. I used to have a synth setup with some pretty complicated patches like "sax" which needed around eight tracks to play one note. Couple that with an aftertouch keyboard and you could approximate a good sax sound, but what a lot of work.

BRB, cat problem.

Mitch

@Robusto Oh man. Go.

Robusto

15:39

No damage. Just had to separate them.

Færd

16:34

@Robusto Nice

@Robusto The problem with being a casual player of any instrument, especially at beginner levels when the struggle is very much uphill, is that one is always out of practice and it never builds up. So it's a waste of time in that regard.

That's my story. I quit my guitar class because I cannot devote two hours a day to practicing, and yet I cannot put it away and forget about it. So I pick it up sometimes and fiddle with it, seldom leading to anything presentable. It just feels good.

RegDwigнt

17:38

@Robusto something? I believe you misspelled "everything".

@Mitch there are all kinds of AIs that do that. Like NotePerformer. Not entirely unimpressive. But only in the sense that a puppy that shits on the floor and not the carpet is not entirely unimpressive.

@Robusto I sometimes do that. Actually, I always do. At least to some extent. Sometimes I fiddle with just one individual note for half an hour. Sometimes I just quickly slap a couple hidden things over a passage here and there.

And yet you've heard them results.

Meaning to say, the shit MIDI gives me is somehow magically even worse than the shit I then pass on to you.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt I bet your arm gets tired. Chin, too.

RegDwigнt

That's why I take lessons.

For all the centuries of incessant development, all musical instruments of today are still unergonomic to a frankly psychotic degree. Designed by humans but never for humans. Elaborate torture devices.

tchrist

18:01

How goes your world?

RegDwigнt

Round and round last I checked.

Though the violin concert got called off due to the Ebola.

lol

Our choirmaster is actually in the US right now. Went there with a different choir this week, just for a couple days to give a couple concerts. Took 14 days worth of sheet music with them just in case.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Ebolero?

@RegDwigнt International touring choirs are rather less common. Must be good?

RegDwigнt

kammerchor-saarbruecken.de

tchrist

They are legion!

RegDwigнt

KammerChor Saarbrücken

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There's a couple paragraphs in English if you care for reading.

tchrist

18:13

I am thoroughly chilled.

Goosepimpled.

That's quite wonderful.

RegDwigнt

Well, we're an amateur choir. And he makes us sing Duruflé and the Mass in H minor, like. That's all you really need to know.

And that's a professional choir that he founded. So you can imagine the rest.

tchrist

And here I thought amo/amare/amavi/amatum was all an amateur need know.

This is why Rome fell, you know. It has a four-dimensional verbal citation form paradigm.

RegDwigнt

Love is a poor replacement for skill.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt I've certainly sung the Mass in many different amateur choirs. Just not in any slipshod ones.

(And I meant the same one as you specified, not a generic mass.)

Yes, it takes real work.

RegDwigнt

Yes you showed me your sheet music.

tchrist

18:20

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Q: What would be the adjective form of the word "sonata"?

Richard Wagner, it is said, looked down on "sonata form" as being too constraining. Roughly speaking, he objected to the long music passages with unchanging rhythm, with repeating cadences, that could be called algebraic. Specifically, he claimed he was not at all interested in Beethoven's pieces...

single-word-requests

RegDwigнt

Sonata form is constraining by the mere virtue of it existing.
For it does not describe anything that occurs in the real world.

tchrist

What do you mean? He seems to be talking about more than just ABA form.

RegDwigнt

It's an artificial construct invented out of boredom. That tries to fit fifty thousand very different pieces, but falls at the first hurdle of fitting even just one.

If you want to drive a musicologist to suicide, just say "sonata form".

tchrist

haha

No canonical sonata, then, nor vice versa?

RegDwigнt

I sidestep the whole nonsense by sticking with Bach. Sonata is just a cantata with not a singer in sight.

Everything else, well.

It's like people on the main site asking for a hypernym for "gangsta rap" and "a shoe filled with ketchup".

tchrist

18:35

Lots of that.

Everybody knows that Capone only peed in his dog's shoes.

Robusto

19:04

@RegDwigнt Yep, which is why it's still cheaper (or less effort) to hire a real musician to play your shit.

TIL in Colombia, amigovio is a portmanteau of amigo and novio meaning "friend with benefits."

RegDwigнt

Less effort, yes. Cheaper, well. I do value my time, but not quite that much just yet.

Exhibit A: I'm posting on ELU instead of transcribing Duruflé.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt If you had more of the one you'd need less of the other.

RegDwigнt

As the saying goes. Time, money, health, pick two.

Robusto

Yeah. What a shit choice. I want all of the above.

But back to MIDI, whenever I've put a drum track together I'm simply overwhelmed with all the shit you have to do so that it doesn't sound mechanical. Stuff that a real drummer just does with a flick of the wrist. And that includes where to place notes in time, sometimes pressing, sometimes relaxing. It all amounts to expression or expressiveness, which is what computers sorely lack.

Anybody can quantize a MIDI piece to the sixteenth-note, and you'll sound like a perfect little machine (or the latest pop record). But that ain't music.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto the bulk of the time I spend on my scores is undoing just that. Putting hidden fermatas on notes, with the value set to 1.02 here, or .98 there.

You think you don't notice. But your brain does.

Robusto

19:16

The mid-level amateur performance is so often leagues ahead of the average MIDI performance played from "the notes on the page."

RegDwigнt

Like, look at this shit.

Robusto

Even just playing a diatonic scale from I to V, a musician will make it music while a machine will not.

RegDwigнt

The things in black are for the musician. The things in gray, for the synth.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Da fuq?

RegDwigнt

Well, that's what my scores look like to me.

Those are the lengths I go to.

Robusto

19:19

It's like programming a robot to dance.

RegDwigнt

IKR

Robusto

I don't think I've ever before seen a fermata over a sixteenth.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto just from looking at professional drummers, they seem to have all kinds of muscles and tendons where I have none. All those little flicks, as you say. That you don't really so much as see; but that you do hear.

Robusto

Yeah. And more interestingly, that you miss when you don't hear them.

RegDwigнt

the piece is over at
https://musescore.com/user/27897310/scores/5980614
if you want to check what it looks like to a human.

Robusto

19:23

Ha. I got "Romance" just from seeing it in Russian. pats self on back

RegDwigнt

And here's what I was working on when you came in just now.

It's from a Miyazaki film.

Note the hidden fermatas and dynamics for individual notes.

Because otherwise, as you say. Mechanical. You can't just let a synth repeat the same note four times. You'd want to hang yourself afterwards.

And for a piano MIDI, you have to go and voice every single chord. Like you would on a real instrument.

It is a nightmare.

Robusto

Yeah. And never mind rolling chords. What a shitload of effort.

Correction: what a fuck ton of effort.

@RegDwigнt Needs more cowbell.

No, seriously, good effort.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto haha. Well, let me show you.

Here's how that sounds:

musescore.com/user/27897310/scores/5954179

Robusto

Holy fuck.

I'd rather just let my fingers fuck around with the roll. Ya know, like squishing gelatin between your fingers.

RegDwigнt

That's why people keep wondering why the fuck my scores sound so different from everyone else's. What sound font I'm using. And I tell them I'm using the default font.

The font is not what makes the difference.

Robusto

19:35

No. It's the effort.

RegDwigнt

What makes the difference is that I can actually play the fucking instrument.

Robusto

Well, there's that. But then when you play the piece into the MIDI recording you then have to go back and "fix" the score so people can read it.

RegDwigнt

Yeah that I've never once done for that reason alone.

I don't even own a MIDI keyboard.

I don't want to have to teach the fucking software how to recognize where the beat is when I'm purposefully half a millisecond behind it.

Robusto

I haven't done any MIDI for nearly 20 years. Maybe they have tools for that now, which quantize the score without quantizing the music. I dunno. Maybe not.

RegDwigнt

Well you can "snap to grid" or whatever it's called. Much like with autotune except for time not pitch.

Robusto

19:38

Yeah, but I'm talking about the score only.

RegDwigнt

Yeah. But I just might be the last person who still writes scores for people.

Just two days ago someone listened to the MIDI of my score for Bach's third motet, and then tried to give me a lengthy lesson on all the things I could do to make it sound nicer.

I was like WTF dude. This is a score to be sung by people. I print it out and sing off it.

Robusto

BTW, earlier you said "H-minor" when talking to Tom. I presume you meant either H-moll or B-minor, or were just fucking with language again.

RegDwigнt

And the default audio source is a historically-informed performance by Herreweghe. WTF do you think you're even doing listening to the MIDI instead.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Had you but world enough and time.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto more like fucking with the retarded convention that won't let Bach spell out his name.

Jan 26 at 20:28, by RegDwigнt

The Mass in H minor, of course, being the textbook example. Basically a best-of of everything he ever wrote, re-written from scratch.

Jan 4 at 23:18, by RegDwigнt

And then Mass in H minor. January 21, 2021.

Feb 29 at 15:02, by RegDwigнt

Anyway. Witness me modulate from E♭ major to H minor on a dime. I never even knew that was possible. But apparently it is. Shrug.

And so forth.

That is just another thing that I do. Like putting hidden fermatas onto everything.

Robusto

19:43

You and your crypto-fermatas ...

RegDwigнt

Nov 25 '19 at 21:59, by RegDwigнt

Nobody can just sit down and write a mass in H minor. Even Bach couldn't. You need to bang your head against the wall for 64 years first.

Robusto

My problem with H is it oughta come after G, not A.

RegDwigнt

Oh BTW, that piece from earlier, the "lonely old grand" with the hidden roll. I hid a B-A-C-H in there. In plain sight.

Measure 16-17, right where it says "this ain't Bach".

Sometimes you can tell I'm bored-.

And you don't even hear it in the piece unless you know it's there. It flies right past you.

Took me a couple tries. Tried a few different ways. This was the most in-your-face and yet miraculously also the most sneaky of them all.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Funny, the chromatic thing in the bass tweaked my ear a little but I didn't guess what was behind it.

RegDwigнt

Funny how it works sometimes.

@Robusto Inorite. Thank you.

Robusto

19:54

Gotta run to the store. TTYL.

RegDwigнt

Have fun. See you then.

Funny story, one time I transcribed a piece for clarinet and violin, and some lady from the States left a comment thanking me saying she played the violin and her husband the clarinet, so it was right up her alley, yada yada. Then two minutes later she commented, "oh I just noticed it says 'clarinet in B', I guess my man will have to transpose it by a half-step, but thankfully it's easy with MuseScore."

I had to explain to her that everything was fine, B is just another way of saying Bb.

(Of course I then did change the instrument name to prevent future confusion. But it's funny the confusion would even arise. There's no clarinet in H. If it says B, it can only mean Bb. If it says Bb, it can only mean B.)

Mitch

20:25

@RegDwigнt That's a very good puppy!

Robusto

21:01

@RegDwigнt You can avoid the ambiguity by specifying a clarinet in A. Which is, of course, the correct clarinet to use for all serious occasions.

RegDwigнt

21:50

@Robusto clarinettists beg to differ. I still use the A clarinet a lot because you're right.

Of course, an elegant solution to all problems is just to specify a clarinet in A♯.

RegDwigнt

22:07

> Outstanding. I have been watching some of Mark's reviews since finding this site......He is funny, witty, concise, and just about the best thing I have seen since Siskel and Ebert (emphasis on Roger's talents) very many years ago. I have seen these movies and am astounded at how good Mark is at describing them. What a treat. Thank you, Mr. K. Bob Shelley, Houston, Tx

Wow. How's that for a YouTube comment.

People from 1920 have found the Internet.

Abort, abort.

tchrist

23:09

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A: What are the criteria of allowing repeated bare NPs in coordinate structures?

Summary No, the repeated coördinate structure does ɴᴏᴛ have to be preceded by a coördinating marker such as neither, both, or either for bare NPs to be usable. You just haven’t done so in your examples, but yours are all failing for their own reasons. Details, Details, and More Details The...

No matter how apparently expert the pineapples, they often miss the most obvious clunkers.

He's apparently trying to auto-Lawler Lawler in his stacked annotations.

It's what Bringhurst calls theatrical typography. It’s performance art in its own right.

But so is a child's coloring-book.

RegDwigнt

A graph theoretician would probably be happy to call them both end-points or terminals, but in English, both of those sound like destination. — Scott Oct 4 '16 at 5:34

A graph theoretician would call them both nodes.

Never heard of end-points or terminals.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt There is that. Or was, seven demiyears ago.

Fugly enough for ya?

RegDwigнt

I used to run one of the biggest graph-visualization–related sites on all of the Internet.

For fifteen years, like.

tchrist

So you've said.

RegDwigнt

I probably did. I wouldn't remember because I don't have to. One only has to keep remembering his lies.

tchrist

23:18

> The script of Macbeth does not need to be bloodstained and splattered with tears; it needs to be legible. And the score of Beethoven’s Hammerklavier Sonata does not need bolder notes to mark fortissimos nor fractured notes to mark the broken chords.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist oh shit I thought you said "funny".

tchrist

WHY NOT!?!?????! THAT WOOD BE SO KEWL

RegDwigнt

Sitting here scratching my head looking for the joke.

Well the typography is a joke, but not of the funny kind.

tchrist

Exactly.

RegDwigнt

Where did you find that atrocity. Why are we looking at it.

tchrist

23:20

> The score is abstract code and not raw genture. The typeset script or musical score is also a performance in its way – but only of the text. The score is silent so the pianist can play. The script can whisper while the actors roar.

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Q: What are the criteria of allowing repeated bare NPs in coordinate structures?

The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language (Pages 409-410): 8.5 Restricted non-referential interpretations of bare NPs [...] This time, however, our concern is with bare NPs. We confine our attention to singular count nouns, which normally require a determiner. (a) Bare role NPs...

noun-phrases zero-article coordination

RegDwigнt

What is this, a poetry slam.

tchrist

I'm quoting Bringhurst, actually, both there and here.

And he has something of the poet in him.

More than something, say some.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist there was that one girl on MuseScore who'd color every note in her score in a different color. In good faith, too. To help students.

I told her what I thought of it.

I don't think she's on there anymore.

tchrist

Did you forgive her or upgrade her?

Oh sorry, my fingers thought I should not upbraid you so they upgraded my verb.

RegDwigнt

Neither. I only just remembered she used to exist and apparently no longer does.

Can't even remember her name.

But I do believe I posted a screenshot here.

tchrist

23:23

Perhaps she has switched to writing in ultaviolet.

RegDwigнt

Roses are red, violets are blue.
I've been misled, and now so shall you.

tchrist

When your cheapass cellphone pseudocamera sensor stops recording signal below 435 nm, what can you do?

Not violet.

Just blue.

RegDwigнt

For all that it helps, the search might as well not exist.

Can't find the screenshot.

tchrist

Confused.

RegDwigнt

And looking through the ELU folder on my hard drive is even worse.

tchrist

23:30

Screen shot is from the cited question above.

RegDwigнt

No I'm talking about the ultraviolet score.

tchrist

oh ah

ooh even

RegDwigнt

All kind of shit is in there, but not the kind of shit I'm after.

tchrist

Come
Saturday morning

RegDwigнt

Hah. Been looking for this one only lately. Couldn't find it. Well, here it is now.

tchrist

23:33

I'm going away
with a friend.

We'll travel for miles
in our Saturday smiles.

RegDwigнt

Okiedok.

Fifty trillion screenshots of past hat seasons.

tchrist

Sunday
sweet Sunday
with nothing
to do

Hazy and happy
We'll drift through the day
Dreaming the hours away.

It's going to rain.

RegDwigнt

The fuck is this even.

tchrist

Rainy days and mondays always get me down.

RegDwigнt

I don't

what

tchrist

23:36

Looks like she's having an unusually good time at their farewell to fleisch.

RegDwigнt

Found an MRT of my knee. Dafuq.

tchrist

Bipartite patella, eh?

RegDwigнt

tchrist

She doesn't look very Japanese
At least until you check her knees.

RegDwigнt

When did I post this. I never posted this. Well now I posted this earlier today.

But why.

tchrist

23:39

NPI

RegDwigнt

Fifty trillion screenshots of 2048.

tchrist

Lots of dead people there.

RegDwigнt

Well. What do you know. Here it is.

Drumroll please.

tchrist

In what color would you like your drumroll?

RegDwigнt

All of them.

tchrist

23:41

In Gottes name, why?

RegDwigнt

So anyway.

That we'll discuss later.

I just wanted to give you the picture to go with that point of yours from earlier.

What was it even.

Did you have one.

tchrist

Perhaps she's afflicted by synaesthesia. @Cerberus vide supra

RegDwigнt

Ah yes.

> And the score of Beethoven’s Hammerklavier Sonata does not need bolder notes to mark fortissimos nor fractured notes to mark the broken chords.

tchrist

My point is that you shouldn't distract the reader.

RegDwigнt

Well. It does not need bolder notes. I give you that.

But bolder notes are kinda nice.

tchrist

23:42

The bigger the better.

RegDwigнt

And some people go the extra mile.

I hope you do appreciate not just the colors, but also her writing the name of each note above the note. Except in the wrong order, and at times fifty miles away from it.

tchrist

That was bothering me.

Why would anyone write the name of a note they've already put on the page?

RegDwigнt

Because the notes were in the wrong order. Duh.

tchrist

The stacking is freaky. Can you read them both down and across?

RegDwigнt

See. The stupid score says BDG. But you want it to be GDB.

So what do you do.

And of course an E is an E is an E. You need a way to be able to write that down, right.

tchrist

23:47

I kept trying to figure that out.

RegDwigнt

Anyway. That is MuseScore for you.

tchrist

And I can't read the yellow.

Make it die.

RegDwigнt

Well, that's what the E is for.

tchrist

These people are disastrously demented.

RegDwigнt

Though I'm kinda upset she didn't color the letters, too.

tchrist

23:49

Um.

That's a weird B-natural.

RegDwigнt

BTW as an aside: It's "in Gottes Namen". Dative.

tchrist

Duh. That much I know, I was code switching.

Hence the lowercase.

RegDwigнt

I figured that might be the case.

The lower case, that is.

tchrist

She didn't trust us to remember the key signature?

RegDwigнt

What is that. I don't think I've heard the term before. I'm on MuseScore, remember.

tchrist

23:52

And why does she write B in black but B♮ in magenta? And aren't those the same there and why?

Blue baby, maybe. Or foetal alcohol syndrome?

Pretty sure that code won't even c0mpile.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Oh, and on the topic of synaesthesia. They cover that as well. Let me show you.

Ah here it is.

> Hey everyone,
I know there's already a group for Synesthesia, but I figured a discussion here would get a ton more feedback. I'm doing a research paper on Sound Synesthesia, so could you guys fill me in on what your experiences with sound and color are? Thanks.

Immediate reply by someone:

tchrist

Take two tabs of LSD and call me in the morning.

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