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Robusto
Robusto
01:19
@RegDwigнt Nah, this guy did that:
Martin Shkreli
Martin Shkreli (; born March 17, 1983) is an American businessman, former hedge fund manager, and convicted felon. He was the co-founder of the hedge funds Elea Capital, MSMB Capital Management, and MSMB Healthcare; co-founder and former chief executive officer (CEO) of the biotechnology firm Retrophin; and founder and former CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals. Shkreli is the former CEO of start-up software company Gödel Systems, which he founded in August 2016.In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim...
He calls himself "Pharma Bro" ...
> In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by a factor of 56 (from US$13.5 to $750 per pill), leading him to be referred to by the media as "the most hated man in America" and "Pharma Bro".[11][12][13]
Cerberus
Cerberus
01:39
Schrecklich.
 
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Lemma Prism
Lemma Prism
02:49
Hey, thanks for replying. My question is about AI but I fear it's too distant from the subject to meaningfully be posted under its header. "Examples of low hanging fruit that took a long time to find?"
It's meant to help me get an idea of the ways in which human rationality is bounded. That, in turn, is to help me get a sense for "bounded rationality" in general which is meant to help me reason about AI and its limitations.
Robusto
Robusto
03:36
@RegDwigнt: BTW, forgot to mention, don't take the plugs out all at once. Do it one a day, over the course of a few days. It really only matters about finger posture, but that becomes important as you improve. Remember how your piano teacher told you your hands should feel like you're palming an egg? Well, that's the same kind of curve you need on the flute.
 
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RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:20
@Robusto I see. I guess I'll start with the A key, then. Missed it on two different occasions yesterday when I wasn't looking. Put the second finger on the pad between 1 and 2 instead.
Færd
Færd
10:36
@Mitch That's great!
@Mitch By that token, the violin would be the "worst" instrument ever then? I don't think art is exactly a matter of that kind of objective evaluation.
But if you still do want to compare instruments from such a perspective, you need to take into account all the other variations that is at your disposal with the guitar: vibration, bending, same notes on different strings, the variety of ways that you can pluck at the strings (with your fingertip or your nail etc) and the timbre variety that ensues, etc etc.
@RegDwigнt Umm, yeah, I think I can read Farsi.
 
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Mitch
Mitch
12:43
@Færd In the context of transcribing one instrument to another with the objective (and objective criterion) being accuracy in capturing the original, yes, the violin is the absolute worst. Harmony and counterpoint are virtually impossible to mimic (and two notes at a time or arpeggiated chords are difficult).
Yes, the guitar has a lot more 'special effects' available to it than the piano. But just number of notes playable at one time easily on a piano over such a broad range makes it infinitely easier to transcribe a multi-instrument piece to piano and get close to the original sound.
@LemmaPrism depending on your question, it might work over at philosophy.SE or even economics.SE. But really Stackexchange is for answering questions in objective form, not for discussing issues with vague goals of exploring research topics. Chat is a better medium for it but here for example it is not, let's say, disciplined enough to really follow a train of thought unless you yourself are discplined about it.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
Us! Undisciplined?! How dare you?
What were we talking about?
Mitch
Mitch
Oh, I dare.
@LemmaPrism There are a number of 'soft' questions in mathematics about mathematical problems that sound similar to yours about low hanging fruit.
like, geometry was axiomatized way back by the Greeks >2000 years ago, but arithmetic, which is much easier, wasn't axiomatized until the 1880's (by Peano)
And math has lots of technical results on how to fully specify what 'bounded rationality' really means (what kinds of things you can prove with what kinds of axioms)
@MattE.Эллен I didn't want to come out and say "That topic probably won't get very far here unless some particular individual really takes you on"
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:03
that's true
Mitch
Mitch
Like android vs iPhone. I think a quarter of all chat message here is about that. Because people cared.
Only two people
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
but boy do they care
Mitch
Mitch
even then maybe that's too many
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
there was a prolonged period of people caring about @Cerberus updating his computer
Mitch
Mitch
That's still going
there's lego
and now flutes
nobody really picked up on cannibalism though
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:05
I think there's been talk about English, too
Mitch
Mitch
and cats
I mean, the cats aren't gonna do it themselves
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
cats pervade the internet like cigarette butts on the pavement
Mitch
Mitch
deleted so the cats won't hear it
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
I have pet rats :D no cats for me!
Mitch
Mitch
@MattE.Эллен Cheezits! Don't say that out loud!
Are you some kind of monster?
Oh. Yeah. Yeah, you are.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:08
I'm the boy who lived (through a cat allergy) i don't fear them
Mitch
Mitch
My bad.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
well, I suppose I do fear them, in so far as I don't want them anywhere near me
@Mitch that's alright. it's not monster awareness month yet
Mitch
Mitch
That's not fear, that's rational behavioral control.
Wait. That is exactly what fear is.
@MattE.Эллен I was not aware of that month.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
I see we need to do more work on our brand awareness
Mitch
Mitch
It's probably the same as international gaslighting month
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:10
I thought that had already happened
Mitch
Mitch
You mean I missed it?
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
Well, your memory's not as good as it could be
Mitch
Mitch
What else am I missing out on?
Like what does FOMO mean? I feel like I need to know.
Like YOLASY?
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
what is YOLASY?
Mitch
Mitch
@MattE.Эллен I'm pretty sure everybody walks around without saying anything but being constantly concerned about monsters. But like the weather, no one does anything about it.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:13
@Mitch it's raining here, and not one person has tried to stop it
Mitch
Mitch
@MattE.Эллен "You Don't Want To Know Why This Acronym Is Misspelled"
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
lol
Mitch
Mitch
@MattE.Эллен Most people complain about it, but there are some people who actually like it.
Those people are monsters
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
don't lump them in with us!
Mitch
Mitch
It's like those people who say they like seasons other than spring. I mean, I can see benefits or fun special things about those other seasons, but no one says "Oh my god yes it's finally shitty weather"
Or... there was some quote I saw recently about this, Oscar Wilde or George Orwell or some other quote writer, that said something like "There's always that one guy that wants to play the robber in Cops and Robbers"
I have a hard time imagining Wilde ever playing that game though.
Maybe "Cops and Robbers and Dinner and a Show"
Now if @LemmaPrism had wanted a discussion about gaslighting monsters, this would have totally been the place for it.
Both kinds
how to gaslight monsters, and the monsters that do the gaslighting (who tend to be 'that' guy)
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
13:31
now that most houses run on electricity there's no call for gaslights
Mitch
Mitch
13:47
wow. problem solved.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
all thanks to Thomas Edison
who gaslit Tesla about a/c vs d/c
Mitch
Mitch
14:04
Tesla played the husband (opposite Ingrid Bergman) in the movie 'Gaslight'
I've just had a conversation with a dolphin. We just clicked.
Tweeted by DadsPuns on March 10, 2019 at 5:09 PM
Robusto
Robusto
14:20
@RegDwigнt It's not really all that important at this point, but you might as well learn correctly. Just understand that if you do improve and start playing the real repertoire, finger technique is going to demand that you have an inline, open-hole flute.
Your offset G/G# keys are making things easier now, but will hold you back later on.
Still, I learned on a crappy, closed-key, offset G/G# model for over a year, and the switch-over took me about a week to get comfortable with.
But if there were a chance for you to return that model and get an inline model, you'd be doing yourself a favor. I mean, as a violin student you're used to stretching the left hand's small fingers, aren't you? This should not be beyond you in any way.
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@MattE.Эллен people were just making their own entertainment.
You call that caring, I call it being bored.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
they could have made entertainment out of anything, but they chose Cerb's update status. They cared.
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
14:36
@Robusto my hands are huge as we discussed. And as you had a chance to see on YouTube in the mean time. I can play an octave without even really opening the hand. Still palming the egg.
So that is not an issue.
I am not here to learn to play the après-midi, though. I do not have time for that.
By the time I will have mastered the basics, I will have three more instruments that I need to master the basics of. In addition to half a dozen instruments I must not forget the basics of.
I do not care for playing pieces. That's what musicians are there for.
Robusto
Robusto
15:39
@RegDwigнt Small point: L'après midi is not about finger technique, but about breath control.
And I would add that the basics are fine. But being around musicians who do play way beyond that will inform your knowledge of orchestration perhaps even more.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
16:38
I'll have no talk of orc castration in here, tyvm
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Cerberus
Cerberus
16:52
@MattE.Эллен There was, wasn't there?
I'm surprised people aren't continually telling me to allow auto-updates or something...
@MattE.Эллен Yay!
Jasper
Jasper
Hello @KitZ.Fox I see you again. Have a nice lunch. =)
Kit Z. Fox
Kit Z. Fox
Hi Jasper.
How are you?
Jasper
Jasper
Hmm, I will update you in an email in a few days. I am not good.
Kit Z. Fox
Kit Z. Fox
Oh I see.
OK.
Jasper
Jasper
I wonder if the Brexit deal will pass parliament today.
If it fails again, it will be interesting to see what happens next.
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
17:36
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer (75): One word that can mean both teacher or student by Francis Borgia on english.SE
 
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KannE
KannE
18:51
@Mitch And that's perfectly acceptable...from little old ladies...and geniuses, too, of course; they're minds are too busy to pick out pants...but this jibber-jabber whatever; I can't take it. I formally apologize for ever commenting on anything while I was hormonally, mentally, or physically challenged in any way. It's exhausting to read... No, no link for you, just a complaint as usual.
Færd
Færd
@Mitch Okay, in that context, yes.
(That wasn't the reason I didn't expect Clair de lune to be a guitar piece, tho.)
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
19:25
@Robusto well yes, as discussed. I only picked it as the usual go-to example. But actually that only adds to my point. If I can't find time for finger technique, which for me should be the easy part, I'll only find even less time for breath control, which for me should be utterly impossible.
@Robusto precisely right. I let others do the hard work for me.
Worked for Brahms. What am I, better?
Mitch
Mitch
@Færd What was your reason (or rather explanation) then?
@Cerberus You should continually allow auto-updates ... or something.
Mitch
Mitch
20:07
@Jasper argh. the worst part of all this is that nothing gets resolved. I don't want to keep watching the same story over and over, I would like to see a new story. Wait... not the story which is 'because the deal fell through, these tragedies are now occurring'. Can I take that back? I don't want a new story then.
Educ
Educ
20:19
Hi

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