That's all I've been doing is pushing myself too hard. PT three times a day to the point of agony for four weeks now. It gets tiring.

So you've only your machismo to blame.

No. I have my physical therapist to blame.

And your manly, virile determination.

She's the one who sets the goals.

Right?

Everything I do is manly and virile. Not just the determination.

So it is surely not because your PT is demanding and you are used to being henpecked.

Well, when women set challenges ...

That's funny.

Back when I used to play basketball, a couple of women who played ball for UMass Amherst got into one of our pickup games. It fell to my lot to guard the shorter one. I was 40 and she was, like, 21, but I totally couldn't let her beat me. And she didn't. But I was almost puking from the exertion.

Hahaha.

The new story I started begins "She wasn't the type of woman who backed down from a challenge..."

Full disclosure: hand-checking a female basketball player is sort of erotic, in an exhausted, desperate kind of way.

chuckles

You poor man.

I have never had to resort to such tomfoolery. coughs, averts eyes

What tomfoolery? Basketball?

The first time I put my shoulder out of joint, I was wrestling a woman I was interested in, just so I could cop a cheap feel.

I don't play basketball. I am miserable at sports, except for baseball. I am a decent baseball player.

Aww, hell, I've been copping cheap feels since I was about 11. You can get away with them when you're 11. Not so much after puberty.

'Accidental' groping is more believable when a woman does it anyway.

You men have a tough lot in life.

Well, we get by.

I suppose it's not all bad.

Thank God for porn, though. Porn never says, "Not tonight, dear, I have a headache."

Thank God for porn.

Porn never wonders if maybe it should report that to someone.

Porn doesn't care if you take it seriously or not.

Porn doesn't take you out on a date, talk about its ex the whole time, then refuse to sleep with you and yet kind of creepy stalk you for a few months.

Better. Still a little sore if I am not careful.

Laters, my peeps! I am out.

hi all

so, anyone who works for a company: how common is it, do you think, for EVERYTHING at the company to be monitored by IT? I mean your HTTP connections, your HTTPS connections, and your mobile phone communications?

yeah

i'm seriously thinking of quitting, for that amongst other reasons

@Jez it's pretty typical for HTTP interactions to be monitored. i wouldn't think twice about it.

no, i mean that they seem to jam the normal network signal and offer a network that allows data roaming

but how exactly are they monitoring your cell phone conversations?

js: http, but https?

@Jez are they actually cracking the keys?

@JSBձոգչ No. They surreptitiously install their own certs into the root CAs in the IE certificates store. It took Firefox to realize this. I also learned that Chrome moronically uses IE's cert store too, so it doesn't note that you're being subjected to a MITM attack

@Jez what industry is this? something security-sensitive?

b/c that is paranoid

@JSBձոգչ They then have some Cisco middleware that generates certs for these CAs on-the-fly when you visit any HTTPS site

@JSBձոգչ i wouldn't say so, really.

Cisco "Ironport"

That sounds paranoid and outrageous. Still, I'm sure you can evade their snooping.

proxyadvices.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/…

> If you decide to terminate SSL on your proxy (such as Cisco Ironport, for instance) to check your traffic for viruses and/or DLP puposes (which I highly recommend otherwise you do leave a huge hole in your security perimeter)

"I highly recommend" that you utterly violate users' privacy and undermine the entire point of HTTPS

that's the attitude

It may even be illegal to snoop on mobile conversations and SSL.

Especially without your written permission. But even then?

@JasperLoy @Kit knew what I was talking about. For the benefit of all the pineapples playing along at home, "Not tonight, dear, I have a headache" is the cliché excuse a woman gives for not wanting to have sex.

i doubt it, in the UK, if they say they will in the policy (guess whether they do)

although there probably ought to be a law against them snooping on online banking and transactions

@Robusto Thank you, but women have headaches all over the world.

It is a well known phenomenon.

@JasperLoy I dunno. Something about the way you fail to communicate your understanding of things, I guess.

@Cerberus But it's a clichéd excuse in English.

@JasperLoy Yes. But it is stereotypical of women!

@JasperLoy I'm thinking of a different word. But never mind.

@Robusto As it is in many other cultures, including any European culture I know.

@Cerberus Heute Nacht nicht, Liebchen, ich habe Kopfweh?

@Robusto Something like that! Dutch women always have hoofdpijn.

@RegDwight: I'm trying to think of a German idiom for "one by one" or "one after another" but my brain keeps giving me an der Reihe, which is not what I want. Is there a good, well understood idiom for "one by one" that you can think of offhand?

In Dutch, it is een voor een.

@Cerberus Dutch women have hoof pain? Are you sure they're women?

Hoef = hoof; hoofd = head.

You're making this up. I knew it.

@Robusto They are devils.

@Robusto dict.tu-chemnitz.de/…

@Cerberus I thought there was a cleverer one than that. I may be wrong.

Ein x nach dem anderen sounds appropriate.

Stück für Stück is more like piece by piece.

@JasperLoy It's just QED.

AFK

> During the Phanerozoic several ice ages occurred, characterized by a complete glaciation of the polar caps. From a geological point of view, today we live in an ice age as well. However, this is not at all the "normal" climate condition of the earth, on the contrary, during the last 550 mio. years acryogenic warm periods prevailed for around 80% of the time, with the polar caps completely free of ice.

so i learned something today

I don't understand sexless women. And hello.

Hello again.

waves bonjour @Mahnax

Sometimes, it just isn't worth it to read the transcript.

Ah, I am in English class right now.

@JSB FWIW, I saved your Big Book of Turkish Grammar.

@JasperLoy :D

rescinds bonjour and holds up fist @Mahnax for fist bump

fistbumps

:D

@JasperLoy I wish! You saw my 'type in the wild' entry?

We are doing poetry... stomps on awful poetry

lol @Mahnax

@JasperLoy it's my best friend!

@JasperLoy I'm my own grandma.

Gotta run!

Don't run in the halls!

@JasperLoy I fixed it.

cries

waves through tears @Mahnax

Wait. Hold the phone.

rubbish == trash || rubbish == garbage

one man's rubbish is another man's treasure?

Gaaah; I must call goToBracesDoctor()

Hiya!

I'm trying to think how much I can get done in an hour that remains, and not feeling ambitious.

Strangely, I am less than enthusiastic about going out to play board games tonight.

Maybe it's the pressure of doing it right after work or this offal hoofdpijn or the stoopid allergy weather grrr

stomps

It's because Monday is grrrreat!

Just kidding. Grrrumpy is more like it.

My places so far are a couple of game stores that have gaming nights.

I guess they also allow open gaming anytime they're open, but it makes it easier when you know other people are planning to be there and you'll have enough to try a 4 or 6 player game.

It's not so much bored, as not wanting to do anything I'm supposed to be doing.

I don't like dealing with e-mail crises at the end of the day, and I feel like writing back, "solve your own problems like I have to all the time kthxbye" but of course I can't cause uhh some reason like it's my job or something.

I really am having coffee, albeit lukewarm coffee, and tryyyying to get to work.

hulloo

there are plenty of people, they're just not regularly in chat, or at all in chat. If he wanted, he could call the pineapples on the main site pineapples

Or he could run out to the grocery store and shout randomly at the fruit

maybe he like to wind you up?

@aediaλ lol. that would be a sight :D

well a pineapple wouldn't eat other pineapples!

!!

Oh.

You changed it.

edit'd

I'm still going to have nightmares about cannibal pineapples.

it's OK! you're a unicorn. they won't eat you!

But they get so brown and spotty and yucky and too sweet!

plus you could skewer them on your horn

The bananas, not the plants.

Haha! Mmm.

@MattЭллен licks chops, daydreams

mmmm, pineapple juice

I hope my eyebrows are the right contour so the rings' juice runs into my eyes. I mean not my eyes. Mouth. That's the thing.

Smoothie?

mmmm. Yes, not the eyes, that would sting

wrinkles nose at mashed banana

l'essence de banane

it's a new perfume

makes you smell bananalicious

eeew!

it would be more usual to say something like the inception of the Android project

yes, I saw

I'm too tired to stay awake. Good night!

Hi @JasperLoy !

hi @JasperLoy

@Mahnax: I can invite you to Duolingo if you want.

guys,, why do people love to downvote too much in English.SE... more than nay other SE site?

because we get questions which are poor fits

of course it will sound poor for someone whose mother tongue is English..

but for the OP, its like the best question in the world..

@HaLaBi No, we get questions which are off topic per the FAQ, or very poorly written to the point that nobody can understand them

ok, valid point..

but still, sometimes some questions are just poor because the OP is simply poor in English and he is trying to get an answer... I think people should go little easy.. specially on new users.. they will leave with a one way ticket and never come back.. an SE is community driven.. no community.. no SE

just something in my head I wanted to share :)

there's a tradeoff though

because ELU is not for ESL per se

ha?

English please ;)

this site isn't to teach English

I know..

so the level of English expected is quite high

it is to improve English...etc

no

not really

> The English Language and Usage Stack Exchange is for linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English language enthusiasts

So, someone should change the name to "Professional English.SE"

The FAQ says its purpose in the top line

ok, I am just chatting.. most likely I am wrong..

I don't mean to make you feel like you're wrong or unwanted, @HaLaBi

Just trying to defend your assertion that people here are downvote happy

I know @simchona

What I meant is, I am sure you know better since you are here before me.. in English.SE i mean

well, since you mention downvote happy I think they are, because if they really meant it then they would comment the reason behind their downvote, I believe SE pops up a comment saying something like that when you downvote..

so, I think there are 'downvote happy' people.. not all ofcourse.. but for sure there are.

I think people don't comment because other people often take good intentions the wrong way

No good deed goes unpunished

again, valid point..

And the downvoter--by identifying themselves, which is counter to the point of anonymity--often get retaliated against

people who don't downvote but try to explain it often get reatliated against for a down vote.

so SE should remove the comment that ask people to write the reason behind their downvote.. either you believe in SE concept fully or never.. you are being partially believer in SE concept..

good, now we are talking...

no, you -should- explain your downvote. The retaliation (or really the heated response) is what should be reduced.

Partial believer? No. The belief is in anonymous voting

I don't believe (yet) taht there are more down votes here. Has any one done actual statistics?

I won't explain a downvote knowing that users will often take it the wrong way

so the comment being shown by SE is against SE believe???

It's also a pain.

yes it is a pain...

Also, I prefer to flag to close.

@Mitch There's a topic in Meta about this, but in general I think Reg found that there's no significant difference

or say nothing.

and, to be fair, it is more pain to the OP!

@simchona: that's what I remember.

so, your pain --> more pain to OP...

yes, people get downvoted for weird reasons.

like the question might be good, but the wording is presumptuous, or arrogant or ...

bad grammar can be toplerated to some extent.

@Mitch I prefer bottomlerating it

define bottomlerating ?

but too short a question with no content is easily downvotable. do some homework, help us help you. this ain't yahoo answers.

I agree with you on that.. 100%

@JasperLoy yeah..word of the week.

@JasperLoy er..yeah...cast a close vote.

but frankly also if it's that questionable a flag.

@Mitch You might want to check that spelling

which can be for obscenity....or for being not an answer (but very useful comment)

so very different directions.

fixed

Sorry, just didn't want that in the transcript (I know what you meant)

guys, off to bed.. Sleepy to the point my head kept falling like a baby...

ooooooooh

yeah, if some are offended, however much you might not get the offense, it's offending

good night

late

r

sorry if i bother any of you guys... :)

well, if by hitting the keyboard in an unexpected manner creates it, then yes, at least for the on instance.

until it changes back.

qn for discussion.

What about it?

not really the ostensible question (another word for the week), but -how- it is said.

it's somewhat irrelevant that the OP misunderstands the two (they're both somewhat negative).

"In the USA we're rational"

"Why do people in the UK hate biscuits"

From network profile of OP: "I AM AWESOME"

Exactly.

also OPs website: evancarroll.com

Ha ha..yes.

That was a long time ago.

What'd be even funnier is if ..no it's not that funny.

if I had given identical answers.

I think both my answers are right, but they were both low scores. Neil's answer is better said (even though it is essentially the same as mine).

excellent..thanks.

@Gigili Please do!

for this one I guess there are many.'

@JasperLoy Thank you.