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Cerberus

00:04

I don't really remember, but a m. of snow would seem too deep for anything that goes fast.

And you can't see obstacles, so I wouldn't cycle through that.

But wouldn't they clean the roads and bicycle lanes?

They do here.

But we seldom get that much snow.

Robusto

00:19

You can’t clear snow enough for safe cycling. At least not the kind you get in Chicago or Boston.

Mitch

When I was a kid it was terrible. It would snow once a winter, maybe 1 to two inches. The city would shut down. Shut down. I'd get up early to listen to the super long list of school closings only to realize that my school was the only one out of all of them that was still open. So I couldn't even enjoy the little snow that was there.

Cerberus

@Robusto What do you mean?

I imagine you would clean when it's stopped falling.

@Mitch So you lived in a warm climate?

Mitch

Also when I went out for Halloween and all the other kids got really good candy, I, on the other hand, got a rock.

Cerberus

I think schools here close sooner than when I was young, because there is less snow now (changing climate).

So they can afford to do so.

Mitch

@Cerberus Virginia. North enough to get snow every winter, south enough that it melted by the next day.

Cerberus

00:26

They used to get "ice free", which I think was for ice-skating, not because cycling on icy roads was deemed too difficult (we had to do that each winter).

@Mitch Oh, I thought you had colder winters there. Hmm.

Tomorrow, the second real snowfall of the season is expected.

Mitch

I think schools and other official institutions close more often and earlier because they actually have knowledge well ahead of time, and are doing it more just in case (the weather pattern is expected to be bad but may move in a slightly different direction before it arrives).

Cerberus

Hmm.

Possibly.

But I also think they close an x number of days, and the x cannot change too much; so they close on whatever days are among the winter's x worst days.

Sort of.

Mitch

@Cerberus Medium/mild winters where I grew up. Now, I'm in New England where they have -real- weather. All the varieties, none too extreme, but at least substantive.

@Cerberus there's some of that strategy.

Cerberus

@Mitch Quite extreme to our standards, I suspect.

Although last summer almost reached 40 degrees Celsius.

Mitch

@Cerberus oh sure. maybe just extremer

40 Celsius? Pfft.

oh but you don't have AC. That's hard

Cerberus

00:31

Yeah.

And we cycle.

Mitch

in the snow.

that seems crazy

Cerberus

And use public transport.

@Mitch Well, we don't get that much snow.

Mitch

people here do it.

they're crazy

Cerberus

And the roads and bicycle lanes are generally cleaned / sprayed with salt.

Mitch

By crazy I mean mentally deranged

Cerberus

00:32

Oh, is that what you mean.

Mitch

Distorted reality plus poor judgement

maybe even stupid

Cerberus

gasp

Mitch

like a motorcycle in the rain

but worse

Do your parents ride bikes in the snow?

tchrist

@Cerberus Do you really want to bike on ice? How do you stop?

Let me tell you something about salt, my sweet summer child. It mixes with water to create something we call brine. By definition, brine freezes at zero degrees.

Now what are you going to do below that? Your ice remains.

Cerberus

We ride bikes in the snow if we have to, but it will be like a few cm of snow, and usually only a small part of the journey, for the roads and bicycle lanes are usually cleaned. So it will be more like slush.

Mitch

00:36

@Cerberus Madness

I bet you smoke your cigarettes past the filter

I bet you don't keep your eggs in the refrigerator

Cerberus

@tchrist Well, that is the problem. You can't really break, so you need to take curves very slowly. So a downwards slope ending in a curve means you have to walk that bit, or fall.

Mitch

I bet you let your pets drive your cars.

tchrist

Molten salt would melt ice at 20 or 30 below, but then again so would molten anything. Lava. Chocolate. Gruyère. Just not mercury.

Cerberus

@tchrist I don't think our roads ever get that cold. Even when the air is -21, the ground will still be somewhat warmer.

Mitch

@tchrist Speaking of molten chocolate, SNACK TIME?

tchrist

00:38

@Cerberus I'm talking Fahrenheit, so you're comparing apples to armadillos.

Cerberus

I remember cycling to school when it was -17. It had dropped to -21 that night.

tchrist

@Mitch Right, biab.

Cerberus

@tchrist I am talking Celsius, and comparing temperatures correctly.

tchrist

Salt water = brine = freezes at 0F.

Mitch

@tchrist If you must compare, armadillos are not as good.

@Cerberus I was going to say something good about your parents, but now I can't.

Cerberus

00:39

@tchrist This is what they teach twelve-year-olds. We know.

@Mitch Well, it was OK.

We wore some extra layers.

Mitch

@Cerberus I didn't know. I grew up in the US where brine is for pickles, not for roads.

Actually...

Cerberus

The ride was about 45 minutes to school.

Mitch

they just started using brine in my town prophylactically instead of salt crystals

Cerberus

@Mitch But you know that very salty water freezes around -17, or 0 F.

Mitch

because the tires kick the grains of salt off the road, but brine seeps into the surface of the road.

Cerberus

00:41

@Mitch Here they salt crystals with a little bit of water to make them sticky.

Mitch

Something something science

Cerberus

Yes, same here.

Mitch

@Cerberus I do now.

tchrist

If you have not passed beneath and beyond the cold beyond five and twenty of Herr Fahrenheit’s degrees south of his zero point and returned to tell the tale, then you have no concept of what that cold is like. It is crippling on a good day and murderous on most.

Mitch

Because I trust you mostly

Cerberus

00:42

But how liquid is brine? It shouldn't stream or flow off the road.

Mitch

@Cerberus really they should just use dirt

Cerberus

@Mitch I think they use that in some places. Maybe where it's too cold for salt.

tchrist

I go now for molten snacks. I leave you with this puzzle: At what temperature does your pee freeze before it hits the ground?

Cerberus

@tchrist I'm sure the people on the cold side of Mercury are laughing at you.

Mitch could have said that.

Mitch

Brine is for pickles, not snow covered roads.

Let that be my epitaph

Cerberus

00:44

Hmm.

How culinary.

Mitch

@tchrist Ima let others do the experiment while I get me some snacks

@Cerberus yeah. also useful advice. you don't want your streets smelling like pickles after a snow.

Cerberus

Don't you?

Mitch

Depends on the pickle

But point taken. It might be nice

It might not be a popular opinion, but grilled onions would be better.

maybe with some garlic

mmm

but maybe that would be weird for snow.

maybe cinnamon and nutmeg

pumpkin spice road grit.

with chocolate sprinkles

Cerberus

Brine is often used to praeserve fish.

So I say pickled fish.

Mitch

so fishy though

how close are you to... wait, are there fish in the canals out your window?

so maybe it wouldn't make a difference

Did you grow up in the big city? I'm sure we've been over this before but I can barely remember what I... well, that's the point, I can't.

Cerberus

01:04

@Mitch Probably.

Thought I don't know how many or what kind.

@Mitch No, I grew up about 20 km from here.

In a town of about 60,000 inhabitants.

I went to school in a nearby town of ca. 90,000.

In your country, these might be considered suburbs of the big city, but here we only call the central city a city, and nearby towns are separate and have each its own history.

So the core city is smaller than your big cities.

tchrist

@Cerberus You call those TOWNS?

Hard to see how anything with tens of thousands of people isn't a city.

We always considered 50,000 or above a big city.

Towns have a few thousand, often just a few hundred.

@Cerberus Are there forest and fields between there and yonder, or just concrete? If it's just cityscape run together under different names, it's well, something else.

Robusto

01:30

@Cerberus: See, eventually there gets to be no place to put it. That is a mound cleared from the road, but after a while the road narrows and there's still ice all over the place.

I'm a person who likes to ride a bike, but even I wouldn't ride unless the streets were ice-free and not subject to daily melt and refreeze.

Cerberus

@tchrist Hmm then what do you call a village?

It also has to do with history and function, I'd say?

I'm never sure where people lay the boundaries between the terms.

@tchrist There would be just buildings and roads if not for policy requiring green zones in between towns/villages/cities.

Otherwise, everything would be one very large built-up area.

And there are many small natural reserves that are protected anyway.

There is practically no place where you're allowed to build anything within 50 km from here.

Only small nooks and crannies where you can eke out a small block of houses.

Well, I exaggerate, but we don't have a huge shortage in housing for no reason.

Only deep in the country are there enough houses for those who wish to live there.

tchrist

@Cerberus lacrossetribune.com/town-village-city-what-s-the-difference/…

Cerberus

Look like that website is spying on people...

tchrist

Yeah, I figured.

In Walworth County, places like Abell's Corners, Springfield, Lyons, and Allen's Grove are probably what I think of as villages. They have only a few hundred people in them.

They have no government.

Springfield, Walworth County, Wisconsin

For other places named Springfield, see Springfield, Wisconsin. Springfield is an unincorporated census-designated place in the town of Lyons, in Walworth County, Wisconsin, United States. As of the 2010 census, its population is 158. Located just northeast of Lake Geneva, it contains a mere eight streets. Springfield has an area of 0.673 square miles (1.74 km2), all of it land. == History == The community has a long history, dating back nearly two hundred years. Many of its early settlers are buried at nearby Union Cemetery. Some fought in the American Civil War. It was the home town of ...

You can't get lost there.

Here's a similar one in Colorado, above Nederland:

Eldora, Colorado

Eldora (pronounced el-DOH-ruh), previously known as "Eldorado" then "El-Dora", then Eldora or Camp Eldorado, and is still called Happy Valley, is a census-designated place (CDP) in Southwest Boulder County, Colorado. The population was 142 at the 2010 census. The CDP of Eldora is more commonly referred to as a small town or village.Eldora is located within the Roosevelt National Forest, and is primarily a rural, densely forested, and sparsely populated area. Eldora is tucked into the valley carved by Middle Boulder Creek, from which there are views up toward the alpine ski runs of Eldora Mountain...

Compared with Jamestown and Ward, which have a general store, it isn't much.

Jamestown, Colorado

The historic Town of Jamestown is a Statutory Town in Boulder County, Colorado, United States. The population was 274 at the 2010 United States Census. It was named for James Smith, an early discoverer of gold. Jamestown was hit hard by the September 2013 Colorado floods when the town was isolated due to road damage from the rains and the flooding of James Creek. Under a mandatory evacuation order, most residents were airlifted to safety under the direction of the Colorado National Guard to nearby Boulder. == Geography == Jamestown is in central Boulder County at 40°6′56″N 105°23′15″W (40.115485...

Ward, Colorado

Ward (elevation 9,450 feet (2,880 m)) is a Home Rule Municipality in Boulder County, Colorado, United States. The population was 150 at the 2010 census. The town is a former mining settlement founded in 1860 in the wake of the discovery of gold at nearby Gold Hill. Once one of the richest towns in the state during the Colorado Gold Rush, it is located on a mountainside at the top of Left Hand Canyon, near the Peak to Peak Highway (State Highway 72) northwest of Boulder. == History == The town was named for Calvin Ward, who prospected a claim in 1860 on the site known as Miser's Dream. The town...

These are what I think of as little towns.

A village, if you would. They may or may not have a store or a gas station. They won't have a traffic light.

They're often hundreds of years old.

Robusto

01:54

Here's a small town:

google.com/maps/place/Spink,+SD+57025/…

tchrist

Oh my, they've sold Buford!

PhinDeli Town Buford, Wyoming

PhinDeli Town Buford, originally known as Buford, is an unincorporated community in Albany County, Wyoming, United States of America. It is located between Laramie and Cheyenne on Interstate 80. At 8,000 feet (2,400 m) of elevation, it is the highest populated settlement along the First Transcontinental Railroad (today's Overland Route), and on the transcontinental Interstate 80. The town was originally named Buford (in honor of Major General John Buford), a Union cavalry officer during the American Civil War. In 2013, the town was sold to a Vietnamese owner, who re-branded it as "PhinDeli Town...

Robusto

So it looks like the Netherlands is about the size of Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island put together.

It is significantly smaller than Illinois or Wisconsin.

And it would rattle around in one of the western states.

tchrist

And it has billions and billions of people.

Robusto

Yes. The term "cheek by jowl" was invented for them.

When I first went to France I was surprised how big it is. Roughly the size of Texas.

You really have to take a plane to get from Paris to, say, Toulouse.

Even Bordeaux.

tchrist

Massachusetts is crazily overpopulated at 840/mi². Wisconsin is still dense at 105/mi². Colorado is more livable at around half that, 52 mi², and New Mexico is much more livable at 17/mi². Now consider Cerb's home nation: the Netherlands is over 1,000/mi². I rest my case.

It's just one big city.

Robusto

02:09

@tchrist It's even worse than that in Amsterdam itself: 5,135/km2 (13,300/sq mi)

tchrist

And Illinois is twice as dense as Wisconsin. No thanks.

@Robusto Bet it smells like armpits. :)

Robusto

Amsterdam is denser than Sao Paolo and almost that of Tokyo.

@tchrist Well, big cities have their odors. One reason I left Boston, even though I didn't live in the city proper.

Mitch

??

tchrist

I've been in Amsterdam for every possible season. It seemed kind of nice, actually.

Mitch

What did it smell like?

Boston that is

tchrist

02:11

I like the canals everywhere, and the great blue herons that live there.

Robusto

@Mitch Depends on the season.

Mitch

summer?

tchrist

But I've never skated its canals, alas. Winter just isn't what it used to be.

Robusto

Mainly what you smell is car exhaust.

Mitch

oh

winter?

Robusto

02:12

Same.

Mitch

oh

Robusto

But in winter you do smell armpits because you're probably on the T.

Mitch

warm car exhaust, cold car exhaust

Robusto

And you're all packed in and everyone is sweating in their parkas (or, in summer, their tank tops). Tank tops are terrible on the Green Line, say, where there's nothing between you and the armpits of straphangers.

Mitch

ew

Robusto

02:14

@Mitch What state did you live in where you had only an inch of snow at a time?

Mitch

Virginia

Robusto

D.C. area?

Mitch

Central VA

tchrist

I've lived in places that only get an inch of snow at a time. Then five minutes later, they get another. Repeat until buried.

Robusto

If spiders and insects didn't give me the creeps I'd consider Costa Rica. Seems like a progressive place.

Mitch

02:17

jaguars

flesh eating capybaras

Robusto

They have Jaguars in London.

Mitch

stay out of London then

Robusto

But I like theater.

We're probably going to spend a week there next fall. If there's anything left after Brexit.

Mitch

it's overpriced. and the food is horrible.

almost as bad as food in the Netherlands

Robusto

You can get great food in London. It's just not British.

And truth to tell, I kinda like a lot of English food. Meat pie and a pint, I'm settled.

Mitch

02:22

breakfast is ok

Robusto

I draw the line at boiled beef and carrots.

Cerberus

02:52

@Robusto Bordeaux is only, what, three hours or so by train?

From Paris.

Took the train from Amsterdam to Bordeaux last summer. It was about six hours, one of which was occupied by traversing Paris by metro.

(Most trains stop outside the inner city of Paris and don't go 'round nor through it.)

@tchrist Oh, you don't have herons emptying your ponds and trash cans?

@Robusto It depends on how you count, though. If you count the municipality, the legal borders, there is a lot of arbitrariness.

tchrist

@Cerberus Our ponds and lakes and reservoirs, yes. But trash cans? Have you ever seen a heron win a fight with a bear?

Also, herons don't go downtown.

Cerberus

@tchrist Bears are kind of hard not to see coming.

@tchrist They go everywhere here, even in busy streets.

tchrist

@Cerberus Nevermore.

Sounds like pesky corvids to me.

Cerberus

@tchrist Wouldn't you say a town or a city need to have special functions in addition to a different kind of buildings, more densely packed?

@tchrist Oh, really?

Our corvids do not pester us, nor do our herons, in fact.

tchrist

Crows we have, but mightier still, and crafty, are the ravens who leave no box of donuts unplundered.

Cerberus

02:59

It's the seagulls and pigeons that we'd love to kill.

tchrist

Squab?

Cerberus

They poop on everyone and everything, damaging monuments.

tchrist

Then there are the geese.

Cerberus

Ah, geese don't venture into the city.

tchrist

We have too many geese and too many homeless.

Cerberus

03:01

Hmm.

We don't have many homeless people.

Lots of geese outside the city, especially near accessible water.

Lots of swans in the city, though, but only in the canals.

tchrist

So does Chicago, but I presume tonight and tomorrow will do a lot to cull the latter.

Cerberus

It's not uncommon to suddenly see like a hundred swans swimming in a random canal, amazing the tourists.

Cold and snow?

tchrist

That's incredible. To see more than just a few at a time is breathtaking.

Wait, swans. I was thinking pelicans.

Still.

Cerberus

No pelicans here, except those that occasionally escape from the zoo to fly across the city and land places.

tchrist

Oh they are not native?

Cerberus

03:04

Lots of green parakeets, though.

Pelicans aren't native here, no.

I don't know where they live?

The parakeets aren't native either, but many have escaped, and they breed in the wild everywhere around the city now.

tchrist

> Only two breeding colonies are located in the Mediterranean basin, one having 250 to 400 pairs in Turkey and the other having 50 to 100 pairs in northern Greece.

Huh.

We have pelicans.

Cerberus

Cute.

tchrist

It's immense. It has six-foot wingspreads.

I'm wrong. That's the length not the wings. The wings are um 10 feet?

Ours are erythrorhynchos.

Yours are onocrotalus.

Am I swearing?

Wait, Pelecanus onocrotalus is redoubled, each meaning the same thing?

At least P. erythrorhynchos means something different.

Cerberus

@tchrist Apparently so.

tchrist

Why did the Greeks need two words for a pelican? Pelican wasn't good enough for them?

Cerberus

03:15

I...had no idea.

But I need to go for a bit.

tchrist

Keep warm and dry.

SmokeDetector

03:45

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Robusto

04:46

@Cerberus Yeah, but French TGV goes 300 kph, so ... we're edging toward 1000 km distance?

CowperKettle

07:47

> Neurologic manifestations include developmental delay, hypotonia and ataxia, mental retardation, dyskinesias (athetosis), frequently seizures, peripheral neuropathy and basal ganglia calcifications [12,13].

I wonder if this word frequently covers all the subsequent symptoms or only seizures

@Tonepoet I don't understand.. how do I change graph to chart, and where to add .png?

Tonepoet

Hmm, dang, the way chat handles bare U.R.Ls. prevents me from demonstrating that how I wanted to explain it.

@CowperKettle If you look at a Google ngrams U.R.L. you should see that it has a portion that has "/ngrams/graph?" You replace the word graph with chart. The .png is added to the very end.

CowperKettle

08:03

@Tonepoet It works! Thank you!

Tonepoet

@CowperKettle Actually, you should thank fumblefingers mostly. Fumblefingers is the one who noticed that you could change graph to chart. Without that I would not have even thought of hacking the U.R.L. to add .png at the end, which allows you to onebox or embed the image into a webpage with the appropriate markup language.

SmokeDetector

10:18

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Matt E. Эллен

10:47

@Robusto I started tying bits of ribbon to my hand, but I don't know which means what and all I have now is an uncomfortable glove.

RegDwigнt

12:27

@Mitch yeah. See. That's the difference between us. I actually do know what CostCo is. And Walmart. And Seven-Eleven. And Barnes & Noble. And Starbucks. And McDonalds. I know all of these. But you, if I named a dozen Russian chains at you, you wouldn't know a single one. So yeah. I'm the idiot here, clearly.

@Robusto I'm not even equidistant to myself, and certainly not to any of you filthy Americans.

But yeah. One day I'll be as old as you. But you'll never be as old as me. Which is not to say that I win. Frankly that sounds like we both lose.

Still more alive than Churchill tho. Screw that loser lol.

Also, how come Tchrist is not on Wiki. I wanted to look up how old he is.

Matt E. Эллен

His age is twice from the middle to one end

RegDwigнt

Oh wait he actually is. That Norwegian ski jumper got in the way.

Damn those ski jumpers always getting in the way.

Well the jumper Tchrist is 8 years older than the proper Tchrist.

Not sure who that makes equidistant to whom.

Especially seeing how the jumper keeps jumping all over the place.

Matt E. Эллен

their difference is equidistant to an eight year old

RegDwigнt

Yeah. Sucks to be that eight-year old.

Or any eight-year old really.

Matt E. Эллен

I don't really remember being 8, so yeah it must have been terrible

Or so good that I'm too depressed to remember it

RegDwigнt

12:37

Well you were in Cardiff or Surrey or whatever so of course it sucked.

Fact: you can name yourself "Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty", but that still won't make you not Surrey.

Matt E. Эллен

I shall rename myself Surrey. People will understand

RegDwigнt

They surrey will.

Abcd

13:15

what would be one word for someone "who is in a mode of recollection"?

Cerberus

@Robusto The average speed of the entire trip is much lower, because the Dutch part of the journey is slower, and then there is the metro trip from northern to southern Paris, too.

But the journey from Paris to Bordeaux is about 585 km, which takes 2:03 hours by TGV.

So almost 300 km/h on average.

Bordeaux–Toulouse is another 2 hours or so.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Get your epithets right. I called you a weirdo.

@Abcd ??

Can you reword ... entirely?

Someone who is currently trying to remember something?

What do you mean by 'recollection'? 'I recollect' is a very rural way of saying 'I remember', no one says that anymore. It sounds like 'collecting again' which sounds weird.

@Cerberus Hardly enough time to read a book. They should really slow that down.

@Cerberus The whole 'What... you mean I have to have an entire journey just to make a transfer from one train to the next?' goes against traveler logic. The whole point to going to a centralized hub is to minimize things like that.

At least all the airports and trains in Paris are connected by something.

in NYC, with a famous subway system and airports, they aren't connected. (Newark Airport is on a commuter train line, so it is actually more convenient sometimes)

Matt E. Эллен

13:35

@Abcd a reminiscer

Abcd

@MattE.Эллен Thanks.

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto calling M&S budget is inaccurate. I believe Walmart own ASDA, which we have, but we don't have the Walmart chain.

or was the M&S comment ironic? In which case :D

RegDwigнt

14:17

@Mitch yes so? And I called myself an idiot. Who are you that you are the only person in here who can call people things.

@MattE.Эллен you may as well have suggested garage or mathematics for all the good that it would've done.

I'm with Mitch on this one. There is no word for "someone who is in a mode of recollection" because someone who is in a mode of recollection is not a thing that exists in the real world.

In sci-fi maybe.

But I wouldn't call a robot a reminiscer.

Abcd

@RegDwigнt What do you mean here?

RegDwigнt

I mean what I say. Reminiscer is about as good a word as car is. Or gumboots.

Though gumboots is actually a word that people say

Anyway I'll be back in a couple hours to post a list of more words that would work just as well.

But I have to be off to violin lessons now.

Robusto

@MattE.Эллен I should have said M&S and Selfridges to make the joke more obvious. ^_^

Zebrafish

Hey Robusto, do you know how to add spaces in your text, either in a question or answer?

for example if I to 1 2 3, all those spaces aren't seen, it's there like a html style < > tag of something?

ooooh, i just noticed spaces aren't retained here either. space space

Robusto

You can try   as many times as you like.

Zebrafish

14:28

thank you, will try

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp boo

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Actually, they say gumbo far more often, especially in Louisiana.

Zebrafish

<&nbsp><&nbsp><&nbsp><&nbsp><&nbsp><&nbsp> boo

ok maybe it doesn't work here

Robusto

@Zebrafish It won't work in chat, and you NEED the semicolon:  .

Zebrafish

i c

Robusto

Might work on the main site, but I dunno.

They support some markup. Not sure where they draw the line.

Zebrafish

14:30

It's annoying, I wants me space when I type space

Robusto

You can also try the <pre></pre> element, which exists for that purpose.

Zebrafish

beautiful, I now wield the power of spacing my text, thanks

Robusto

So it works on the site?

Zebrafish

yeah the nbsp works, at least where I tried, trying to make to a primitive table, so need spaces

yeah, well, on the medicine SE it does

which is where I'm asking a question

I feel so excluded, because many of these SE sites say it's for professionals and students. I'm neither, I just a schmoe wanting to ask a question

Robusto

Hmm, <pre> also works, and additionally honors carriage returns and line feeds.

Zebrafish

14:34

cool, I'll put in my formal discrimination complaint afterwards

Robusto

And you can                              do spaces here as well
and carriage returns                with fixed fonts.

Soft return plus hit the fixed font button.

Zebrafish

I do say <pre><pre><pre><pre><pre> spaces

Robusto

> Let's see ... does this work?

Zebrafish

<pre></pre><pre></pre><pre></pre><pre></pre><pre></pre> boo

Robusto

@Zebrafish No, you have to use it as an HTML element, an it must be closed: <pre>Your text </pre>.

That is on questions and answer on the main site, not in chat.

Zebrafish

14:36

how did you make those spaces in chat?

Robusto

I told you.

1 min ago, by Robusto

Soft return plus hit the fixed font button.

Zebrafish

ok

That's cool, I don't need in chat, this is good enough for my question, thanks.

Robusto

De nada.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt a la mode du recollectioner is something they don't say in French, either

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен But that says more about the French than anything

Robusto

14:44

@MattE.Эллен Proust probably thought it, though.

Matt E. Эллен

there's no stopping him

Robusto

Although the difference between his thought and his writing is not spacious. If he thought it, he wrote it.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Are you calling yourself a people-thing-caller? I should have guessed someone like you would be like that.

@MattE.Эллен I think his death slowed him down a bit.

With all due recollection modes to his family.

Who are probably dead too.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt: Put down the violin and get back to EL&U. This question cries out for your attention:

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Q: Translate Russian "ненаглядный" to English

How can you translate the Russian word "ненаглядный" preserving its meaning and semantics? It is usually translated as dear or beloved but these words does not have the original meaning of the Russian word. It can be translated as "the one who cannot be looked enough at". But this phrase is too ...

I was going to suggest "ottoman" or "bibulous" but I don't really know much about Russian.

@Mitch Not in lit classes, it hasn't.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I guess I can forgive that

Robusto

14:52

The present tense of woke (adj) is wok (n).

Mitch

Nice

Matt E. Эллен

the future tense of wok (n) is wo- (prefix).

Robusto

So ... woman is future man?

That makes sense, actually.

Matt E. Эллен

:-o what a revelation!

Robusto

That's why we go over this stuff.

Mitch

15:01

@MattE.Эллен 'I won't forget this' = 'I'm not cooking tonight'?

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch Meals of future past(a)

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