English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Kosmonaut

17:00

Just decided to stop by and say hello yesterday and, I guess, today too.

Mitch

@JasperLoy what do you mean 'answers should be posted in answers'?

user19161

@Kosmonaut Your two shades of blue are very beautiful; one will do for myself.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 C'est toi?

user19161

@Mitch I mean I see many answers being posted in the comments instead. That just messes up the universe.

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Were you moving in a circle, and now you ended up where you began again?

user19161

17:02

@Cerberus If you believe in the theory of rebirth, that is what happens.

Cerberus

Judging by your picture, that means that you will continue to end up here every cycle.

@JasperLoy I do when it suits me!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Kosmonaut OMG

Kosmonaut

And if you believe in the theory of rebath, then, well... I dunno

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Kosmonaut is your God?

Kosmonaut

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yo

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

17:03

@JasperLoy he isn't yours???

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I certainly don't believe in Astronauts.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No, I worship myself.

Cerberus

Hah. In what dialect do they pronounce birth as bath?

Mitch

@JasperLoy I do that all the time. THere's a meta-question about it, and I agree with all the answers, namely 1) I don't have time to do a real answer (an answer that I would myself flag as 'not an answer' or 'low quality'.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You believe the moon video was a fake too?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus what you call a video? My Game Boy makes better fake videos than that.

Kosmonaut

17:04

@Cerberus The video was real. But the moon itself is fake.

Mitch

2) it's a Gen ref or duplicate, but I want to not send the OP away mad, so I give a quick summary answer.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Agreed. Their "gravity" even looked fake.

I mean, who can't even get gravity?

user19161

@Mitch I know, but I see many great quality comments that should be in the answers. I don't mind my answer or the question being closed or deleted, but I still like to post a simple complete answer as an answer, and I still hate a simple answer being downvoted.

Kosmonaut

Actually, I still can't BELIEVE they actually lost the originals of the moon landing.

Jez

Is it a law of nature or something that companies always discontinue their best products?

Cerberus

17:05

@Kosmonaut Oh, I didn't know. Is it made of fake cheese?

Jez

ah, Kos is back

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut They did? Huh.

@Jez Yes, because, if their product breaks easily, they will sell more of it.

Kosmonaut

Apollo 11 missing tapes

The Apollo 11 missing tapes are missing slow-scan television (SSTV) recordings of the lunar transmissions broadcast during the Apollo 11 moonwalk, which was the first time human beings walked on the Moon. The tapes carried SSTV and telemetry data recorded onto analog data recording tape. The SSTV data was recorded as a backup against any failure of the live television broadcasts. To allow broadcast of the SSTV transmission on standard television, a real-time conversion from SSTV format was done. The converted video of the moonwalk was broadcast live around the world on July 21, 1969 (UTC). ...

Vitaly

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No idea, sorry. I can't get it above a stable 40 with a guaranteed win. (Emanuel + Rancor)

Jez

@Cerberus :-(

I have a Bic Rondo pen

damn great thing

bought it a few years ago, doesnt break, not made out of cheapo plastic but it's rubberized so comfortable to hold

they discontinued it the bastards

Vitaly

17:07

@Cerberus Hm, OK. How large a file are we talking about?

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Huh that's weird.

@Vitaly I don't know, 500 MB?

Vitaly

Let's see.

Cerberus

Just a random file?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

0

Q: Where does the word "tablet" come from?

I don't know where does "tablet" come from. Does anybody know?

it

Cerberus

@Vitaly I will clean up my HD in the future, and then I will be able to store more data for you.

user19161

17:09

@Jez It is also common for companies with great products to close down completely. That happened to a number of places I frequent.

Vitaly

@Cerberus Yes, for privacy reasons.

Cerberus

@Vitaly Oh, is that so?

user19161

@Cerberus What do you mean by cleaning there?

Cerberus

I thought it was direct.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 It comes from the six letters. See, I said etymology should vanish.

Vitaly

17:09

@Cerberus Torrent is direct.

Cerberus

Still, I get much better speeds from other torrents than yours.

No offence.

Jez

@JasperLoy how come?

Vitaly

Haha.

OK anyway, I'll send you an email once I set it up

user19161

@Jez Because people don't appreciate them and they don't make enough.

Cerberus

OK.

@Kosmonaut Is that a microwave?

Kosmonaut

17:12

@Cerberus The moon? Perhaps. Nobody knows for sure because we've never been there.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Vitaly well then I'm sticking to Malort/LoT, Blood Grunt and two Asyla. 43 points every single time. Tried three Asyla, didn't work. Blood Grunt has to be played first.

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Q: "Would" construction for talking about the past

so I've heard peolpe using would+infinitive when talking about past events. Example: "It was a great time. We would just sit there and play games all day." My question is, is this a proper way to talk the past? If so, when do you use it? Thanks

grammar

This is a dupe. Someone help me find the original kthx.

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Oh, of course. Stupid of me. So nobody has ever seen the moon?

Vitaly

@Cerberus Done.

Cerberus

They hung a fake silver disk in the sky?

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus You might have thought you did, but it was actually just a street lamp or something.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

17:15

Never mind. Killed as gen-ref.

Gigili

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 The one that you answered? I read it just today.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

BBL cooking.

Gigili

Oh.

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Q: When should I use "Would", "Would have", "Will", and "Will have"?

I hope someone, once and for all, can clarify (with examples) the difference in usage of will vs. would vs. would have vs. will have.

verbs

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut So what is this?

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus The letter C and a star.

Mitch

17:19

a sideways parachuting star-man?

over a sea of strawberry juice?

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Okay, fair enough. And the stars are real?

@Mitch You get points for originality.

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus Nobody knows.

Vitaly

@Cerberus 350 KB/s?

Cerberus

@Vitaly I see 230ish.

Vitaly

I made a guess based on how the number of bytes changed in the connection settings.

Cerberus

17:23

Perhaps the configuration of the stars is a language of very slow-moving aliens.

NinjaTurtle

Heyleo.

Cerberus

@Vitaly Nice. But it's still 230, so what shall we do? Continue to download?

Vitaly

@Cerberus OK, I know for a fact that someone from the U.S. whose connection speed is 10 Mbps downloaded off me at 1.2 MB/s.

Cerberus

Hello reptilian!

@Vitaly Though OU or torrents?

Vitaly

Through OU.

Cerberus

17:24

Oh.

user19161

I think I use only 400kbps, but it is good enough for me.

NinjaTurtle

Me reptilian?

Cerberus

Weird.

@Vitaly Then every single we try is a combination of factors.

So many things to consider.

But I know my max speed is higher.

There's also bandwidth throttling as an option.

Vitaly

Yeah, well, I know my max upload speed is 100 Mbps. :P

user19161

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Q: What is meant by et.al.?

what is the meaning of et. al., what does it convey ? Recently I was going through a thesis work citing this term quite a many times.

terminology abbreviations

NinjaTurtle

17:25

Speed of Car?

user19161

GR

Cerberus

This may be prime time.

@Vitaly I know, dear.

@NinjaTurtle Who else?

NinjaTurtle

May be Cerberus :) hehehe.

Cerberus

I'm a mammal!

Even though I lack mammae.

user19161

@Cerberus You are a ghost, not a mammal.

NinjaTurtle

17:26

yeah! Let me check.

Cerberus

@Vit: So do you want me to continue?

@JasperLoy Why a ghost?

user19161

@Cerberus Aren't you from Hades?

NinjaTurtle

Yes, you are three face dog's ghost :D

Vitaly

@Cerberus Doesn't matter really.

Cerberus

From, I don't know. I just live around those parts.

Vitaly

17:27

I mostly wanted to see if that issue solved itself.

It didn't.

NinjaTurtle

Are they Camels or Dogs in your profile pic?

Cerberus

I am a dog.

Robusto

Camels? Camels?

NinjaTurtle

I thought you are Man :)

skullpatrol

Who let the dogs out?

NinjaTurtle

17:29

bow bow :D

Vitaly

@Cerberus from me to a Speedtest server in Amsterdam (“Networking4all”-something): i.imgur.com/DfToN.png

NinjaTurtle

72.88 Mbps?

Cerberus

@Vitaly Yeah, it's weird.

We can't pinpoint it on a single factor yet.

NinjaTurtle

Why is it weird?

Cerberus

If only we knew!

Vitaly

17:35

@Cerberus Is it possible to upload stuff to someone else's DB (without sharing the password)?

Cerberus

@Vitaly Yes, but I think that always goes through DB's servers first. I can only download it once it has been fully uploaded.

Unlike OU.

Vitaly

@Cerberus But your speed is maxed out when you download from DB, right?

Cerberus

Yes. Because my upload speed is tiny.

It is maxed out with everything I do.

80 KB/s.

Vitaly

> when you download from DB

Cerberus

Oh, I have no idea. I don't think so.

Vitaly

17:38

Well, damn.

Cerberus

A 1-MB file doesn't take 1 second as with a strong torrent, I think.

I don't think I've ever downloaded a large file with DB, not consciously.

Vitaly

Hahaha.

Cerberus

I mean it happens rarely, and I don't look at the speed.

And it never happens on my main computer I think.

Robusto

@Vitaly: I saw an excerpt from old manuscript that was reportedly in High Church Slavonic (?), whatever that is. It looked like Russian to me, with some differences. I recognized the word слово, for example, which was repeated at the beginning of several lines. Is HCS just modified Russian, or is it a complete dialect in and of itself?

Monica

Hello everyone!

Vitaly

17:46

@Robusto It's a different language, but the alphabets and vocabularies are similar enough, I guess.

Robusto

Also the word for "word."

Ha, a tween edit. Well played, my friend.

Mitch

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I removed the 'it' tag (presumably for 'IT') from this one and onaother question. So now there are no 'it's. Can you delete that tag now?

Vitaly

@Monica Hi. Did you see the Google Books link I posted about those causatives?

Monica

No, I didn't

Could you post it again?

Vitaly

24 hours ago, by Vitaly

@Mitch However, Corpus, Cognition and Causative Constructions in Studies of Corpus Linguistics has a full chapter devoted to the syntax and semantics of English causatives (viz. have, get, make, cause). (They use corpora and elicitation tests as sources of their data.)

Monica

17:50

I found just general rules of using causatives

Vitaly

24 hours ago, by Vitaly

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Monica

Thank you

Mitch

I'm guessing that will be somewhat technical.

Monica

Hmmm, but it can't be read online

Vitaly

You are welcome. You can preview considerable portions of the book. They should suffice, I imagine.

@Monica Click “Preview this book »”.

Mitch

17:51

But will have lots of examples of the cases you care about.

Gigili

Why your avatars are so similar? I always think it's Mitch when it's Monica.

What's the equation with x of degree four called?

Quadratic?

Umm, no. That's two.

Quartics.

Thank you for your attention.

Monica

I can't find the preview button

Gigili

@Monica Click on the image.

Monica

Ah, here it is

Thank you Gigili

Vitaly

Oh boy. OK, @Monica, how about this: хттп://онлайндиск.ру/файл/890475/ (sub the English words in)

Monica

17:55

I can read it now

I was playing chess today online and was about to win when I suddenly lost connection

aedia λ

@Kosmonaut Congratulations!!!

Monica

:(

Robusto

@Vitaly: Speaking of chess, what did you think of the championship? I thought Gelfand did pretty much as expected. He showed a little spunk from time to time, but was pretty much outclassed.

Vitaly

@Robusto Well, that seemed a close battle. Anand isn't quite the highest-ranked chess player now, even though a champion.

Robusto

Yeah, the World Championship is getting to be irrelevant.

These days, anything that doesn't have Magnus in it seems kind of suspect.

skullpatrol

18:04

Whatever happened to "Deep Blue"?

NinjaTurtle

yawning.

skullpatrol

@NinjaTurtle Am I putting you to sleep?

Turtle boy ... @NinjaTurtle

Vitaly

@Monica The part I think you need is Chapter 5, The syntax and semantics of causative constructions. You can get the PDF from the other link I posted (the онлайндиск one).

NinjaTurtle

@skullpatrol No not as such.

Monica

I am afraid I can't

It says; Ваш поиск не дал результатов

Vitaly

18:10

Huh? Just sub the English words in. Replace the файл with file and so on.

Monica

I did it but it still says it can't be found

:)

Thank you

Vitaly

No problem.

Monica

Oh, this book must be helpful

Vitaly

@Monica you might want to check page 50, they list the hypotheses underlying exercise A of their elicitation test there

Monica

18:27

I will check it.

I am googling now the safest states in the US

California is not included

:(

user19161

18:45

@aediaλ Yours will come soon too!

user19161

@Gigili Linear, quadratic, cubic, quartic, quintic.

user19161

Speaking of chess, I think all gambits are silly.

user19161

@Monica There are things that are worse than guns and knives.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: Why does 'be' have more than three forms?

I was just wondering, unlike many other normal verbs why does be have more than three forms? These are, am, are, is, was, were, be, been, being.

verbs verb-forms

Two answers, eight comments, and nobody has mentioned suppletion so far? I am disappoint.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Waiting for you to do it.

user19161

18:55

There are many downvote trolls recently.

user19161

I am trying to divine their vital statistics.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@JasperLoy well guess what I did.

The term for this is suppletion, and be is but one example (go—went is another classic). In fact suppletion is not limited to verbs (good—better, bad—worse), and not limited to English (vais—allons, хорошо—лучше). — RegDwight ΒВBẞ8 31 secs ago

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You might as well post it as an answer.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

We have other questions on suppletion already.

My only problem is that my comment is 6th, so it's hidden. Someone go upvote it. I have cookies.

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