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RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

10:00

@MattЭллен well I need some cash, too, and I am not making another Die Hard.

Gigili

I'll stop learning German.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 maybe you should make an Easy Kill

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен you should sit on an Iouea and sing an euouae. Aeriously.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 that's some eunoia

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Matt Эллен

10:07

a vs an

Die bart, die!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

If you liked Die Simpsons, check out the Bad Design over at the Bad Art Shop.

Gigili

Aren't Barrie England and 3I the same person?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

If they are, I don't care.

Gigili

I don't care that you don't care.

I even read that sentence as "die Bart, die" (can you hear me?), like an angry teacher getting tired of his student who keeps saying "der Bart" or something.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

How do you know 3I, anyway? That was way before your time. Are you 3I?

user19161

10:13

My Firefox address bar often turns black on Linux.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Welcome to the world of tomorrow!

Gigili

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 If I am, I don't care.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Obviously someone like me told her.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Now that I have turned off history in youtube, I may click on all youtube links!

Matt Эллен

10:16

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user19161

@Gigili They are quite the opposite. Barrie England is an expert at giving good answers. 3I is an expert at giving bad answers.

Gigili

At giving quick answers or answers in general, you meant.

user19161

I mean what I wrote, as usual.

Gigili

You don't really know what you mean. We can help you.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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user19161

10:19

@Gigili Thanks, but I only need my three miracles which nobody can help me with.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Is that a mantra for healing?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well if it works then it is.

user19161

Well said. Just use whatever works.

user19161

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Q: Use of lone apostrophe for plural?

I've been reading William Manchester's book "American Caesar", which is about Douglas MacArthur, and I found that he uses a strange convention for pluralizing the family name. When talking about the MacArthurs as a whole, he writes MacArthur' with an apostrophe, as in "After the war, the MacArthu...

user19161

Wow this question has so many upvotes in such a short time!

user19161

10:23

But I prefer Ryan's looks when he had the short hair.

David Wallace

@ClarkKent I'm sure he'll come here (or THERE), see that, and adjust his appearance accordingly.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Many votes but not, um, favoritings.

Strange.

user19161

Favouritings are strange. I don't favourite any question, though I favourite rooms.

user19161

I simply favourite the main room for X if and only if I have an account for X.

David Wallace

May I ask the obvious stupid question?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

10:27

My personal record is 18 favoritings for 46 votes. So four stars for every ten upvotes. A one-time thing.

user19161

@DavidWallace Yes, ask.

David Wallace

Nope, don't want to any more. Sorry.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Awwww.

David Wallace

It was enough to know that I may.

user19161

Now I am curious what he wanted to ask.

Gigili

10:28

@MattЭллен Huh. What does the woman say at the end?

David Wallace

@Gigili Do you mind if I smoke?

Matt Эллен

@Gigili sorry, I've no sound at work. I can't tell you what she says

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@DavidWallace Do you smoke if I mind?

Gigili

@MattЭллен I can wait.

@DavidWallace Ekskioozmi?

user19161

I know. @David probably wanted to ask how to favourite a room.

Matt Эллен

10:30

@Gigili I'm guessing @David's right, though.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I think Anthony Quinn holds the record, with 31 favoritings per 79 votes. That's a slightly higher ratio than mine. 0.392 vs 0.391.

user19161

Just click on the star at the top right of the room.

Gigili

No?

I'm so confused.

David smokes or the woman in the video or what?

David Wallace

@MattЭллен It wasn't a serious answer.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I have 4 favouritings for 11 votes

David Wallace

10:30

I don't know what Gigili was referring to the end of.

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace oh :D

David Wallace

@Gigili Which video? I shall listen and tell you.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен that's 0.364. Noob.

user19161

Amazing that I got 8 stars in the past 24 hours. Miracles are about to happen.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 well, I'll favourite it myself, then I'll have 5 for 11

user19161

10:32

Also, note that one can favourite his own question.

Gigili

No one speaks German could be roman?

WTH?

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Matt Эллен

except it's not a favourite of mine, so I don't want to favourite it

user19161

I think it should be changed so that one cannot favourite his own question.

David Wallace

She says "No-one who speaks German could be an evil man".

user19161

Also, is janochen trying to look like Bieber?

user19161

10:34

Simpsons is such a terrible show, not funny at all.

David Wallace

It has a funny moment, about once per three episodes.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Thank you, also what on your chest?

David Wallace

You mean my chest? I was going to ask you there.

Gigili

Jeepers.

user19161

@Gigili I have two breasts on my chest.

David Wallace

10:36

@Gigili are you asking about the very first line?

user19161

Some people think that men do not have breasts, it's true.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Yes, yes.

David Wallace

What about that tattoo on your chest?

Gigili

@ClarkKent I love it when you to talk to the wall.

@DavidWallace Thank you.

David Wallace

@ClarkKent Can any of us be sure you're a man?

user19161

10:38

@Gigili Not again.

David Wallace

The last time you used a photo as an avatar, it looked decidedly female.

user19161

@Gigili I talk to myself all the time, it's true.

Gigili

@DavidWallace I still think the woman says something like could be any roman instead of what you said.

@ClarkKent So you're wall. QED.

user19161

@Gigili No, I am Wallpaper.

Gigili

Good for you.

Matt Эллен

10:40

Upon the wall in pall mall there is scrawl

Gigili

in the opposite hall

Matt Эллен

next to the stall

user19161

@MattЭллен Now you are tempting me to post my banana sentence.

Matt Эллен

I'm doing no such thing!

user19161

Taniyama from Canada ate the banana in the papaya in the iguana in the zenana in Panama.

David Wallace

10:41

@Gigili I had to listen twice to be sure she said "could" not "can". But I'm certain I heard it correctly.

@MattЭллен Only a British person would know that that doesn't rhyme.

@ClarkKent Now you're just making stuff up.

user19161

@DavidWallace I always find two adjacent thats very fascinating.

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace it's true. I am a bit devious

user19161

@DavidWallace Though it is possible. Imagine an iguana with its mouth wide open. Stuff part of an open papaya into it, and then stuff part of a banana into it. After that remove the banana and put it into his mouth.

David Wallace

@Gigili How does "an evil man" sound like "Roman"?

@MattЭллен OK, a British person or I.

Matt Эллен

:D

Gigili

10:45

@DavidWallace I'm not sure about the "how", but it sounds so to my ears.

user19161

I think that the browser could have underlined all my correct spellings yesterday because the keyboard map was chosen wrongly.

Gigili

Go upvote my recent answer. All of you.

I was faster than others and yet no upvote.

user19161

@Gigili Where?

Gigili

MSE.

user19161

I thought you were talking about here.

Gigili

10:48

You were wrong.

user19161

Anyway, it will be time to change my username again next Wed.

David Wallace

If you remove the (u)' from your answer, I will upvote it.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent will you be taking a sponsor? you could be paid to be "Jasper 'Coca Cola' Loy"

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user19161

@MattЭллен Haha, I prefer Pepsi!

user19161

I am glad KFC comes with Pepsi.

Matt Эллен

10:50

Well, there you go! write to pepsi co :D

Gigili

@DavidWallace I will not.

is in a real huff

user19161

@MattЭллен The strangest things are starred.

Gigili

Are you saying my answer is not correct?

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent indeed

David Wallace

@Gigili Umm, I think I'm saying that, yeah.

user19161

10:51

Have any of you watched Journey to the West in any language?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Gigili I don't see any answers of yours.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 She refers to MSE, not ELU.

David Wallace

math.stackexchange.com/questions/151956/differentiation-using-chain-rule/

Matt Эллен

I won't upvote something I can't understand. Too little calculus in my diet

Gigili

@MattЭллен I thought you trusted me.

Very disappointing.

Matt Эллен

10:55

well, you could explain to me how you are right, then I can agree with you

Gigili

I deleted my answer.

Matt Эллен

:(

Gigili

End of story.

David Wallace

Actually, Gigili, I take it back. I won't upvote you if you remove the (u)'. It seems to me that Brian's answer is the only correct one so far.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Okay.

user19161

10:57

@Gigili QED.

David Wallace

Sorry, I started typing that before you said you deleted it.

But I can upvote a different answer of yours if you'd like me to.

user19161

I am currently the top voter on ELU, yay!

Matt Эллен

(0_0)

Gigili

@DavidWallace No, thanks.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent phew, at least I'm on the first page

David Wallace

11:00

@Gigili You can't stop me.

Gigili

@DavidWallace I can.

Matt Эллен

Gigili is a long range sniping expert

David Wallace

With semicircle-trajectory bullets.

user19161

I score perfect in day time shooting in the army.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I still have no idea what answer we are talking about.

David Wallace

11:02

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 It's gone.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 She deleted it on MSE.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh great.

I want those five minutes of my life back.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Welcome to the world of tomorrow!

user19161

I love to parrot others.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You mean you can also parrot yourself?

Matt Эллен

11:04

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Imagine if you got all those five minutes you've wanted back at once! would you go back in time, or would you get younger?

David Wallace

If he could go back in time, could it be different? Or would it just be an action replay?

user19161

@MattЭллен I would like to return to 1996. That was the best year of my life.

David Wallace

sings In the summer of 96!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен why would I want to go back in time? To lose the five minutes yet again?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 it would be different as the five minutes would be spent doing something else

user19161

11:06

Things could be worse if we went back in time and tried to improve things.

Matt Эллен

they'd be cut out of the past and pasted onto the present, maybe

user19161

Watch The Butterfly Effect.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I have a weird feeling I am wasting another five minutes yet again...

Matt Эллен

lol

one man's waste is another man's island

user19161

There is a Barrie England but still no Captain America.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

11:07

One man's waste is another man's chest.

David Wallace

I wonder if Barrie knows that he gets discussed here.

user19161

Well, he comes here now and then.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I wonder if he cares.

user19161

Like once a year.

David Wallace

I hope he appreciates the esteem that we all hold him in.

Gigili

11:08

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Five minutes. Here, be my guest.

user19161

FumbleFingers also comes here once in a while.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: The history of softcore

Over lunch recently, my colleagues and I were discussing the term "hardcore," and speculating on its origin. Our speculations evolved into "What has either a hard or soft core, where the hard cored thing would be used by professionals and the soft cored one by amateurs?" because this is where we ...

etymology history

This is one of those cases where use vs mention totally matters.

David Wallace

I respect Barrie more than Fumbley.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You hear me, @Kit? Quotation marks, please.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Ah, I was about to say that.

user19161

11:10

Better late than never.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well it's Kit.

David Wallace

I've never heard the word softcore qualifying any noun other than pornography.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You never know.

@DavidWallace where it makes the least sense.

user19161

However hardcore can refer to more things it seems.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Softcore is not pornography.

David Wallace

11:11

No, it's an adjective.

Isn't it?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Everything is everything in English.

My point is a different one.

Softcore pornography is like striptease underneath a burka.

Xblast time! BBL

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 except articles

user19161

We can say "This site is about hardcore English!"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен I can a you any time. I aed a great many people already.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I mean you can't replace an article with anything, only another article

softcoring pornographic readies apples the drawing

user19161

11:14

I guess we could say "ELU Lite is about softcore English!"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен um, you can't do that with other POSes, either.

Matt Эллен

yay!

so some things can be some other things

David Wallace

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 imagines striptease under a burka - I assure you it isn't.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

11:49

Haha. I beat Em1 by 14 seconds.

But it's his that got accepted.

shakes fist

Matt Эллен

But yours is more correct.

because it uses the past tense

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It also extra does not the second time round.

And it fixes the "first" thingamajig.

Oh wowie not it got accepted.

Matt Эллен

and it's the accepted answer

Hugo

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yours is now accepted.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Jinx

Matt Эллен

11:53

jinxae

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Jinxae's all around.

Damnit, I don't even get a chance to bitch.

The Bitch Is Back

"The Bitch Is Back" is a rock song by Elton John, written with Bernie Taupin. It was the second single released from his 1974 album Caribou, and reached number 1 in Canada (his sixth in that country), number 4 in the United States and number 15 in the United Kingdom. The song has been identified as is one of Elton John's best hard rock cuts. In the U.S., it was certified Gold on 13 September 1995 by the RIAA. The song was twice recorded by Tina Turner: once for her Rough album in 1978, and again for the John/Taupin tribute album Two Rooms in 1991. Turner also performed the song in her ...

@MattЭллен BTW, that sentence is so Jasper.

Matt Эллен

Feb 22 at 20:41, by Cerberus

You're all fake Jaspers.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well I object to the fake part.

Every single letter of that sentence is pure, distilled, Genuine[TM] Jasper.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It doesn't even need a QED at the end. Dig that.

Matt Эллен

11:57

does anyone digg anymore? or is it all about the reddit?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I never dugg. Not once.

Matt Эллен

I did digg, but mostly my own stuff

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Digg was pure crap right from the onset, but it got purer still with every day that passed.

Then they got caught in the act, and the unwashed masses highjacked Reddit.

This is when I stopped using Reddigg as well.

Matt Эллен

I can't see a difference between the front pages of digg or reddit

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Though I did check the LEGO subreddit last week.

@MattЭллен QED

Matt Эллен

12:00

My blog entries that get the most hits are the ones I've posted about on SO and the one with useful information

digg and reddit don't seem to factor in

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I made some promo for getting a badge on ELU.

Matt Эллен

how do you mean? You promoted yourself getting a badge on EL&U?

is this better off at writers?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I linked to some ELU questions. In the Grammar subreddit, IIRC.

Matt Эллен

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Q: The most natural paragraph

Could you choose the most natural paragraph, please? I will come to your place as soon as I am done with the selling of the/our house. Don’t get bored without me. It’s a/the beginning of /a/the/ our new life. I have to finish all big deals with the selling of the/our house. Dont be bored witho...

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@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 ah, so got the announcer badge?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Yeah couldn't remember the name.

@MattЭллен I suppose it is, seeing how the sentences are completely different.

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Q: Is "youths" always used negatively?

The word "youths" always seems to be used in a negative sense (e.g. "Drunken youths", "Disaffected youths"), and our church has now adopted the more politically-correct sounding phrase "young people". Does the word "youths" have an inherently negative connotation?

meaning

I blame youths in Asia.

Matt Эллен

12:05

the youth of today! They don't know they're born.

o, that's a different word

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Slippy.

The born slippy supremacy.

Matt Эллен

lol

that might have been a better film

> My friend George Bernard Shaw has said once...

Speedy Gonzales is friends with George Bernard Shaw. Wonders never cease.

Gigili

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 What about Asia again? Pah.

Matt Эллен

are you a youthful Asian, @Gigili?

Gigili

@MattЭллен I leave it to you to judge.

Matt Эллен

12:12

quietly judges

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Gigili it's a pun. Try pronouncing "youth in Asia".

Matt Эллен

oh! lol you wooshed me too

David Wallace

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Does she look stupid to you? Don't be so fucking condescending, please!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Um. What?

Gigili

Who looks stupid?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

12:24

It would appear David thinks I think you do.

I'm not following.

David Wallace

Reg, please accept my apologies for my last remark. I'm kind of in the middle of a slightly unhappy argument with somebody; and I unfairly took it out on you. I shall try to control myself in future.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Happens.

No prob on my part.

David Wallace

OK, cool.

And, truth be told, Gigili does look pretty stupid, with happy faces drawn on her thumb! :-)

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well it was an extremely sophisticated joke, seeing how it even whooshed my sockpuppet.

Who'd have thunk.

David Wallace

Reg, you are nothing if not sophisticated.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

12:34

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Q: PIE query for last digit

I came to know that PIE is a number and its value has yet to be found as to where it ends Can anyone tell me upto what extend the computers have been able to find the end digit

irrational-numbers pi computer-algebra-systems

So PIE is a number now?

Gigili

@DavidWallace Don't get me started.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Gigili I thought Simply Red got disbanded, no?

Gigili

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No, not simply.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Complicatedly Red?

Gigili

Fits better. Weirdly Red.

David Wallace

12:36

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That question is wrong in so many ways!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

What was the name of that computer program that pretended to be a human? And prepended "Why do you say" to your lines?

David Wallace

Eliza?

Gigili?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Ah!

Thanks.

David Wallace

Shrdlu?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

For some reason I always remember it as Alice.

David Wallace

12:39

There have been a whole lot of them.

She might have been called something different in German and/or Russian; but the English version was Eliza.

Gigili

Alice always comes with Bob.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 there is a chat bot called Alice, on the web, there was an easter egg where you could harass her into lifting her shirt

Gigili

Since there's no Bob, you fail.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Youth is youth, no more, no less. Voted as NARQ.

Gigili

Eve is the one who listens to other people's conversations without permission.

And I am Gigili.

Nice to meet you.

user19161

12:41

@MattЭллен There is an Ubuntu package where a woman will do a striptease or something. The higher your CPU usage, the more she strips.

user19161

@Gigili Nice to meet you too.

David Wallace

Good night all. It's that time again.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

CU!

user19161

@DavidWallace Good night!

Matt Эллен

CU @DavidWallace

talk to captain kirk

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

12:46

> Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om
James T. Kirk: om
Lieutenant: om

WTF

Matt Эллен

yeah, it eats the log, so it looks like it says the same for me

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Those eyes

Matt Эллен

except if you scroll down, then you see what you've actually said

matt: Hello, I'm matt
James T. Kirk: Greetings.. Do you mean your name is matt?
matt: Yes
James T. Kirk: Welcome to the Enterprise, matt.
matt: Thanks
James T. Kirk: You're very welcome, matt. But no human can look at Kollos, even with a visor, without going mad. How do you manage?
matt: What are Kollos?
James T. Kirk: How long have you been on the Enterprise, matt?
matt: about a hundred years
James T. Kirk: matt, how bad is it?
matt: fairly bad
James T. Kirk: Good. matt.
matt: how bad are you?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:31

abstrusegoose.com/467

Matt Эллен

matt: Hi
James T. Kirk: Hello to you my friend.
matt: What is last thing you remember?
James T. Kirk: They're celebrating.
matt: Who are celebrating?
James T. Kirk: Too much recursion in AIML.
matt: That doesn't sound like a group of people.
James T. Kirk: It's only the wind and the thunder.
matt: So the wind and the thunder are celebrating?
James T. Kirk: Well? Kirk here.
matt: What? Why did you ignore my question?
James T. Kirk: It's all right. It's all right. I panicked.
matt: Huh. Well calm down. Who is celebrating?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 lol

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

13:49

Lieutenant: Hi there
James T. Kirk: Greetings.
Lieutenant: Who are you?
James T. Kirk: I am Captain Kirk of the starship Enterprise.
Lieutenant: I only know Starship Troopers.
James T. Kirk: That movie was more like a Web site than a movie.
Lieutenant: What's with your eyes?
James T. Kirk: it came with my personality.
Lieutenant: Them's freaking me out big time.
James T. Kirk: Will you take me there?
Lieutenant: Where, now?
James T. Kirk: Ten feet away from me.
Lieutenant: Can't you fly there with your ship?

Matt Эллен

lol

Ilya

quite a fixed contingent here

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