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RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:00 PM

But can words hurt fish? Or fish hurt words? Questions, questions.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, that's a really useful comment.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Yeah right, I'll go search for that video.

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A: 'I don't like fish.' 'Me, too.' Is this natural?

"neither do I" sounds more academic, however I've heard a lot of people saying "me neither" in the states

Matt Эллен

me do neither

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

This just a couple hours after that other question about "me, too" in negative contexts got asked.

I've been noticing this often, lately.

Matt Эллен

yeah

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:05 PM

And I don't think it's the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

I swear people are trolling me.

Matt Эллен

maybe they're trolling someone else on the site

maybe they're trolling in the hopes that Jeff will come along and close their question

this is dupe, yes?

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Q: Dependent is to Employee as [blank] is to Employer

I'm trying to find a word that is similar to "dependent", but means the one who the dependent replies upon. It came about in a discussion with some coworkers and none of us could find an answer and now it's really bothering me. I tried searching for it on Google, but I could only find results r...

antonyms

KitFox

Yes.

Robusto

These words are hurtful.

Matt Эллен

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Q: A depends on B, is A dependant, or is B dependant?

If A is dependant, what does one call B?

meaning

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's not very satisfying.

Matt Эллен

2:10 PM

no

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен and that guy's last paragraph is just utterly confusing and completely uncalled for.

We get what you're asking for. Don't try to explain. It will only make the matters worse.

Matt Эллен

:D

overruled, @Robusto! Hellion changed your change

oh, it was unrelated

Robusto

Hellion! scowls

Cerberus

Superior?

Governing?

Robusto

Provider?

Cerberus

2:13 PM

It all depends on context, as usual.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I overruled all your changes.

Matt Эллен

we heard you like change, so we put change in your change so you can change while you change

Robusto

@Cerberus A dependent relies upon a context? Interesting.

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен your gravatar violates the rules of heraldry.

Matt Эллен

2:17 PM

how so?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Stuff must look to the left.

So it looks to the right as seen from yourself when it's on the shield you're holding.

Matt Эллен

it's looking to the left from its perspective

Robusto

That's too sinister for Matt.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Robusto

2:18 PM

Matt's gravatar righteously exhibits dexterousness.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Matt Эллен

You're gonna try and make an orc do what you say? Ha! good luck

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You get the idea.

Matt Эллен

plus, getting gravatar to update the avatar takes days

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Not now that you know how to do it right[TM].

Matt Эллен

2:20 PM

meh, I'm not certain I do. it could just have been a coincidence

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Here's your chance to find out.

Matt Эллен

well, your owl is looking forwards!

that's perpendicular to heraldic rules

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Communists always do.

Because the present and the past they just can't bear.

Matt Эллен

The Russian Bear?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

What the heck. The chat's all broken. Relog.

Robusto

2:21 PM

There, that's better.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

AUA! AUA! AUA! BITTE NICHT!!!!

Robusto

Too late.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus, what are you doing in the frying pan?

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Frying.

Matt Эллен

staying out of the fire

Cerberus

2:23 PM

And panning.

What are you doing posting coats of arms?

Matt Эллен

do you pan left to right, or right to left?

Cerberus

Be careful, or I will post mine!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus teaching Matt the correct direction to look in.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus do it!

Cerberus

But it has a bull.

Robusto

2:24 PM

@Cerberus Uh, I think it's a cow.

Cerberus

All righty, one sec, I need to Google it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

As long as it looks in the right direction, which would be the left direction, it will be fine.

Matt Эллен

:D

Cerberus

@Robusto Is it? Have I posted it before?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Besides I think you've posted it before.

Jinx

Matt Эллен

2:24 PM

I haven't seen it

Robusto

Matt Эллен

lol

Robusto

See. Looking to the right.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That is just wrong.

Robusto

No, it's right. QED.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:25 PM

It also has itself in its ears.

There!

Matt Эллен

nice

Robusto

@Cerberus That is the laughing Gorgon-zola.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

This is how you look on a coat of arms.

Cerberus

Haha.

The colours on the whaddayacallem are nonessential.

Good luck finding my last name.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

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Q: "Employee" is to "employer" as "dependent" is to what?

I'm trying to find a word that is the counterpart to "dependent", i.e. refers to the one who the dependent relies upon. It came about in a discussion with some coworkers and none of us could find an answer and now it's really bothering me. I tried searching for it on Google, but I could only fi...

single-word-requests nouns antonyms analogy

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:26 PM

It's cows all the way in the earings.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Voted to close as dupe

Robusto's answer is even already in the dupe

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus but I know your last name! Hades

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MrShinyandNew安宇 we figured as much, but we also figured the answer on the original sucked.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 And you are wise beyond your ears.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен That's just my Lord's name!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:27 PM

@Robusto no, I am dirty beyond my ears.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 What, I answered in the original? Funny if true.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

No not u

You're answer is in their. Your not.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The original accepted answer sucks. But a better answer is right underneath.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus oh, is it The Three Headed Dog, then?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MrShinyandNew安宇 we can make an exception and merge the original into the dupe.

Cerberus

2:28 PM

@MattЭллен Nope.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Does Cerberus have a last name?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Well, either way.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

FFS, why did he add that edit?

Gahhhhh.

Cerberus

Boo Matt is silly.

Robusto

Here's my family's crest.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:29 PM

runs around like Mcaulay culkin or whatever he's spelled

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Edited, so you look silly :Þ

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

We got your question alright. Stop explaining it to us. We got it. Really.

Cerberus

A crest is only the bit on top of the shield.

@MattЭллен Edited as well.

Matt Эллен

gah! foiled by my own petard

Robusto

See? Corporations are people too.

Cerberus

2:33 PM

What are you doing?

Robusto

Who, me?

Cerberus

Yes.

Robusto

I am lampooning the right wing of American politics.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto Oh noes! You put Mr Gyllenhaal in there! Now it will tank.

Cerberus

@Robusto Ohh I get it.

Robusto

2:36 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Relax. I could have put Joaquin Phoenix in there.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Joaquin Phoenix starred in some great shit. At least one of which won over several Oscars.

Cerberus

This was about PACs, wasn't it?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

No, make that two.

Gladiator and Walk the Line.

Robusto

@Cerberus Yes. PACs Americana.

waits

keeps waiting

...

more ellipsis

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I didn't reply to a man in Rhino just to watch him die.

Cerberus

2:37 PM

Heh.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 He died of Reno failure.

Cerberus

More like Bellum Americanum.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: Difference between native speakers and non-native speakers

Can native speakers differ papers written by other native speakers from non-native speakers just by skimming through?

non-native-english

22 minutes and still open?

A new record.

Robusto

@Cerberus My joke stands as written.

Cerberus

Noted.

Robusto

2:39 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Hey, we're asleep at the wheel here. Leave us alone.

Asleep at the Wheel

Asleep at the Wheel is a American country music group that was formed in Paw Paw, West Virginia, but based in Austin, Texas. Altogether, they have won nine Grammy Awards since their 1970 inception. In their career, they have released more than twenty studio albums, and have charted more than twenty singles on the Billboard country charts. Their highest-charting single, "The Letter That Johnny Walker Read", peaked at No. 10 in 1975. Band history Beginnings to Austin In 1969, Ray Benson and Lucky Oceans (Reuben Gosfield) co-founded Asleep at the Wheel in Paw Paw, West Virginia, and so...

Matt Эллен

there are nany pedestrians to worry about

user19161

@MattЭллен many

Robusto

@ClarkKent Late to the superhero party again, I see.

user19161

@Robusto Yes, I remember you are the Twisted Carrot.

Cerberus

Robusto

2:42 PM

@ClarkKent I am The Dream. I will haunt you when you are most vulnerable.

Cerberus

Watch out, cars, Nanny pedestrian crossing the zebra!

Robusto

@Cerberus Aww, you didn't have to dress up for us.

But we do appreciate it.

Cerberus

But you do it all the time!

Robusto

True, if by "do it" you mean "joke about it" and by "all the time" you mean "once in a while."

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent nay, nany

Robusto

2:44 PM

Also, why have rounded corners if you're going to show the white space filler that completes the rectangle anyway?

user19161

@MattЭллен Yes, I was late to the party of hero and villains. Note the singular and plural.

Matt Эллен

2 hours ago, by Matt Эллен

this is where the word nany come in useful

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus late jinx.

2 hours ago, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

She had style! She had flair! She was there! That's how she became the nany!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus those look like the most uncomfortable shoes ever

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I was a dwarf standing on your shoulders.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:47 PM

Apr 18 '11 at 10:27, by RegDwight

First Habermas, now Oasis. It isn't getting better.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Knowing Fran, they no doubt were!

Matt Эллен

Who is Fran?

Cerberus

We have a Jehova's Witness in the cooking room.

@MattЭллен Fran = the Nanny.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto at first I thought your "white space filler" was supposed to refer to Fran Drescher. But then I still thought so.

Matt Эллен

oh, Fran Drescher, wikipedia tells me

Cerberus

2:49 PM

He says he would be bothered too if people came knocking on his door, and yet he does it.

@MattЭллен AKA Fran Fine.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен this is where any kind of dub is superior to the original.

Cerberus

Her name in the series.

Matt Эллен

there is a girl with her head being eaten by a lettuce

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus I see that after Sex and the City, you are adding The Nanny to your impressive collection of stuff you have seen despite not having a TV.

Way to go.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Haha.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That was one of the few comedy shows that were broadcast on public television.

And rehearsed again and again and again.

Matt Эллен

2:51 PM

repeated?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Pineapple alarm.

@MattЭллен she's got some damn thick arms there.

Matt Эллен

from carrying all those children, I suppose

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It was amazing how a TV show could get away with having so many hideous children.

Even the ones on Married with Children were sexier. And they were not sexy at all.

Matt Эллен

I don't think I watched it. I know of it, but I don't recall any episodes

Robusto

There. The true pineapple in his natural environment.

Matt Эллен

2:55 PM

I did watch that one about a governess in some rich American house

with two girls

and stuff

Robusto

@MattЭллен You don't have stuff in England? We have lots of it in America. Also space.

Matt Эллен

oh, I'll never remember the name of it

@Robusto no, we're restricted to things, by a law passed in 1612

it's not been overturned, lest there be a stuff crisis

user19161

@MattЭллен The anti gay sex law is still in force here, sad panda.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

The butler, Niles, was played by an Englishman. The main character, Mr Sheffield, was played by an American. Both roles were supposed to be Brits. People wouldn't stop calling and complaining how Niles' accent was fake and tell him to take lessons from the actor playing Mr Sheffield's role.

Robusto

@MattЭллен I thought Cromwell did away with all that Stuart nonsense.

Matt Эллен

2:57 PM

@ClarkKent well, you'll have to ship all your gay pandas to Japan

Robusto

Hmm, but maybe that's what the Restoration was about. Bring back things and getting rid of stuff.

Matt Эллен

Well, royalty did love its stuff too much

user19161

@MattЭллен Yet there is no law against adultery even though that is one of the ten commandments. People use religion to justify whatever they dislike, sick world.

Robusto

@MattЭллен But Roundheads didn't like things. Only stuff.

Matt Эллен

then we are at an impasse, although I see it's only 1559 here

so maybe we still have stuff

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