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Canadians aren't odd. They are bears.
@tchrist so what you're saying is everyone will switch from English to Chinese, because they hear it has no grammers at all.
00:40
@tchrist It always discomfited me that this word is pronounced co-hog. But I couldn't help pronouncing it to myself over and over, nevertheless. Like when you have a canker sore in your mouth, your tongue won't leave it alone.
@RegDwigнt Some of them are wolverines.
@RegDwigнt Did you consider you might be running out of faces, not palms?
 
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> Etymology: < (with loss of the initial syllable) Narragansett poquaûhock (see quot. 1643) < Proto-Eastern Algonquian *pəskw- lump + *-ēh mollusc + Narragansett -ock, animate plural ending; compare Eastern Abenaki pk8é, pek8é (i.e. /pkwe/), plural pk8éak, pek8ahak (i.e. /pkwehak/) (18th cent.).
@Robusto Apparently some people do spell it cohog.
> Forms:
α. 17 quahoag, 17 quauhog, 17– quahaug, 18 quahawg, 18– quahog, 18– quohaug, 18– quohog, 19– quauhaug.

β. 17– cohog.
> Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈkwɔːhɒɡ/, /ˈkwɑːhɒɡ/, /ˈkəʊhɒɡ/, U.S. /ˈkwɔˌhɔɡ/, /ˈkwɑˌhɑɡ/, /ˈkoʊˌhɔɡ/, /ˈkoʊˌhɑɡ/
So apparently you get to spell and pronounce it pretty much any way you please.
> Compare the following earlier occurrence of the Narragansett word in a glossary:
1643 R. Williams Key into Lang. Amer. 107* Poquaûhock..This the English call Hens, a little thick shel-fish, which the Indians wade deepe and dive for.
They should have stuck with Hens.
> In fish markets, there are specialist names for different sizes of this species of clam. The smallest legally harvestable clams are called countnecks or peanuts, next size up are littlenecks, then topnecks. Above that are the cherrystones, and the largest are called quahogs or chowder clams.
02:19
hi pal
02:29
@student Are you skullpatrol?
hiya pal
Universe Sandbox is amazing.
Available on Steam or Amazon for about $16
You can run the universe and change it if you want.
Change the time and speed of time and location and everything.
if only we could do it for real...
...looks cool, thanks for sharing
02:44
I just did a climate tutorial in which I changed the climate. The program commented at the end "Good luck fixing this situation."
probably a standard built-in response
Of course
03:28
0
Q: The body of literature, and more generally media, pertaining to some topic

jcarpenter2Sort of like "canon" but without the implication of being formally authorized by any body - the word I am looking for could conceivably include fan fiction as well. E.g. "The creature name I am looking for is not 'flesh atronach', because that name is specific to the Elder Scrolls _____." I tho...

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A: Please explain the definition of Feisty

Sven YargsTracking 'feist' and 'feisty' in Merriam-Webster dictionaries Feisty has an interesting record in English, to judge from the entries for it and for its root word feist in various editions of Merriam-Webster dictionaries. To start with, its etymology is odd, as we see in this entry for feist in M...

A feist is a small hunting dog, descended from the terriers brought over to the United States by English miners and other working-class immigrants. These terriers probably included crosses between the Smooth Fox Terrier, the Manchester Terrier, and the now extinct English White Terrier. These dogs were used as ratters, and gambling on their prowess in killing rats was a favorite hobby of their owners. Some of these dogs have been crossed with Greyhounds, Whippets or Italian Greyhounds (for speed), and Beagles or other hounds (for hunting ability) - extending the family to include a larger variety...
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04:44
> Once we get to the figurative meanings of "like a small, spirited dog," the possible meanings of the word diverge markedly. On the one hand, feisty can have a quite positive sense: frisky, spirited, exuberant, spunky. On the other, it can tend toward negative characteristics: fidgety, touchy, or quarrelsome. This split in meanings is (it seems to me) true to the mixed nature of the canine from which it is derived, whether or not that animal has the additional habit of passing gas.
 
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0
Q: Single word for the one who completes his tasks at any cost

Iqbal Ahmed SiyalMy research shows possible term for the one who completes his tasks at any cost. Stubborn - Adjective - The Cambridge Dictionary: a stubborn person is determined to do what he or she wants and refuses to do anything else. Additionally, the Urban Dictionary (UD) a stubborn person always thi...

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Q: What does "clearance fee" mean?

HKKHere's the content: What is Stock Music? Stock Music, also commonly known as Production Music, is a less expensive alternative to the use of popular or well known music in a production, since it is not necessary to obtain specific permission or pay additional clearance fees for the use of a son...

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Q: Is there a single word for without a beginning

BdyIs there a single word for: something that has no beginning or without a beginning

Leslie Feist (born 13 February 1976), known professionally as Feist, is a Canadian indie pop singer-songwriter and guitarist, performing both as a solo artist and as a member of the indie rock group Broken Social Scene. Feist launched her solo music career in 1999 with the release of Monarch. Her subsequent studio albums, Let It Die, released in 2004, and The Reminder, released in 2007, were critically acclaimed and commercially successful, selling over 2.5 million copies. The Reminder earned Feist four Grammy nominations, including a nomination for Best New Artist. She has received 11 Juno Awards...
 
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Q: What does the word "stock" mean in the word "Stock Media Product" on an agreement of 3Dmodel?

HKKThere are many meanings in the word "stock", but it's hard for me to figure out which one it is in the web dictionary. The web dictionary: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/stock And here's the definition of “Stock Media Product” in the document: “Stock Media Product” is the collection of one ...

13:07
> Touching thy letter, thou art wise inough,
I wot thou n‘ilt it deignely endite,
As make it with these arguments tough,
Ne scrivenly ne craftily thou write;
Beblood it with thy tears eke alite:
And if thou write a goodly word all soft,
Though it be good, rehearse it not too oft!
> For though the best harper upon live
Would on the best sound jolly harp
That ever was, with all his fingers five
Touch aye o string, or aye o warble harp,
Where his nails pointed never so sharp.
It should make every wight to dull,
To hear his glee, and of his strokes full.
It's hard to read Middle English verse with the proper rhyme and meter of the original, especially when we respell it closer to the spelling of Modern English and drop so many final e’s: softe, ofte, harpe, sharpe.
I'm guessing that "upon live / jolly harpe / fingers five / warble harpe" all pairs of LONG-short, LONG-short trochaic feet.
I'm guessing Chaucer wrote no "silent" e's, but only sounded ones.
 
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15:44
Civility? F... you.
16:32
Word of the day: to parlay (to carry forward the stake and winnings from a bet onto a subsequent wager)
> In creating United, Rothblatt parlayed an abandoned drug she picked up for $25,000 into a company that made her the highest-paid CEO in the biopharmaceutical industry last year—when she also set a speed record in an electric helicopter.
Beblood is a nice word
 
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17:41
Why is the word spill used to describe the fall from a bicycle?
I thought that "spill" only related to liquids.
Curious
 
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18:48
@Robusto nah I never lose a face.
19:34
@Mitch F...ærd you?
@tchrist I unsuccessfully tried to find a recording of that online to really grasp what you mean. Maybe there are not so many recordings available of the poetry of that epoch.
English poetry has been on my to-do list for so long.
I would not recommend Middle English poetry. :)
@CowperKettle I learned that word about a month ago!
@tchrist Understandable!
Shakespeare counts as modern, right?
> With some differences in vocabulary, texts from the early 17th century, such as the works of William Shakespeare and the King James Bible, are considered to be in Modern English, or more specifically, are referred to as using Early Modern English or Elizabethan English.
@CowperKettle Good question!
@Cerberus Kept me thinking. Which one do you think is the pick of the bunch and ahead in progressive regards?
Canada?
.
> It wants twenty minutes, sir, to taking the medicine.
The usage of want.
Is it dialectal? Outdated?
@Færd Yes, but it is considered "Early" Modern English, and even after normalizing its spelling is often difficult for speakers of present-day English to fully fathom. He has a great deal of poetry outside his plays. Here is one famous quatrain:
> Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date.
That's pretty approachable.
But notice how he’s rhyming temperate with short a date.
Despite the intimidation surrounding his big name, he sounds very accessible to me!
@tchrist Yes.
19:51
It’s clear he had the same vowel in temperate as in the other three lines’ last syllables, but we no longer do so in our own speech.
Well, "clear". Likely.
But Occam’s Razor says that’s the easiest explanation.
> tem·pe·rate /ˈtempərət, ˈtempərɪt/
That's Longman dictionary. A learner's dictionary, but still.
Not that I have ever heard the latter pronunciation.
Oh you may well have.
Our brains don't record exact phonetics on allophones of the same phoneme.
Sorry, I mistakenly read the latter as /tempəreɪt/.
It's reduced, but how far may vary.
Ah!
It still sounds unusual, but regarding what you just said I may well have heard it.
19:54
From fairest creatures we desire increase,
That thereby beauty’s rose might never die,
But as the riper should by time decease,
His tender heir might bear his memory:
But thou, contracted to thine own bright eyes,
Feed’st thy light’s flame with self-substantial fuel,
Making a famine where abundance lies,
Thyself thy foe, to thy sweet self too cruel.
Thou that art now the world’s fresh ornament
And only herald to the gaudy spring,
Within thine own bud buriest thy content
And, tender churl, mak’st waste in niggarding.
If you can handle that, then you'll be fine.
omg, the "n" word!
@tchrist I can wade my way through it and I'm thrilled about it!
@CupFever What, where?
"niggarding"
If I have to explain it, you’re bound to renege.
So, no. Just no.
That has nothing to do with black people.
19:58
I know pal. Just trollin ya ;-)
> Origin uncertain; probably < early Scandinavian (compare Old Icelandic hnøggr (Icelandic hnöggur ), Norwegian (Nynorsk) nøgg , Swedish njugg , Swedish regional nägg , nagg , early modern Danish nygger , adjectives, in sense ‘parsimonious, stingy’, cognate with Old English hnēaw stingy, Middle Dutch nauwe narrow, stingy (Dutch nauw narrow), Middle Low German nouwe narrow, scanty, Middle High German nou , nouwe narrow, exact, careful (German genau exact), probably ultimately related to the Indo-European base of classical Greek κνύειν to scratch (see need n.2)).
It's not even related to negro. :)
It's frowned upon in the US
Niggard?
20:00
That's ridiculous.
Strange.
Idiot fucks.
I read it in a dictionary
Are you sure you don't mean negro or nigger?
That's like shunning the word unconscionable because it contains within it a word for the female pudenda.
Or shunning renege because people are too stupid to live.
20:02
Wow. It takes a keen hearing to pick out the cunt in that.
@Færd Not if you're French, mon con. :)
Why not?
Because le con is the cunt, but nothing so strong as in English.
Chaucer: So perfect joy may no niggard have.
It means miser.
It does not mean black person.
Aha. I thought you meant because including or leaving out t's frequently makes meaningful differences in their words, so they catch it more readily.
We better cool it before the drive-by flaggers show up guys :-)
20:05
I'm pretty cool already.
> α.
c1384 Bible (Wycliffite, E.V.) (Douce 369(2)) 1 Cor. vi. 10 Neither lecchours..nether coueitouse men, or nygardis..schulen weelde the kyngdom of God.
▸ a1393 Gower Confessio Amantis (Fairf.) v. 4850 (MED) This Viola largesce hath take, And the nygard sche hath forsake.
c1400 (▸c1378) Langland Piers Plowman (Laud 581) (1869) B. xv. 136 He was a nygarde that no good myȝte aspare.
c1450 J. Capgrave Life St. Katherine (Arun. 396) (1893) i. 883 (MED) We shul fare elles as these nygardes [v.r. negardes] doo, ley vp here gold and [euyr] whil thei spare.
You should have been around last night. :)
@CupFever They're welcome to try. It's my room and I'm a site mod for the main site that this room is attached to. That means their flags aren't anonymous for me like they are for others, and I'll suspend them for sowing discord.
@tchrist But the phonetic transcription would contain a /t/ in unconscionable.
20:07
@Færd In certainly could, yes.
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Q: What's a word or phrase for a prearranged situation seeming otherwise?

BeatsMeWhat's a word or phrase for a situation in which, for example, people in authority pretend to be serious in selecting a new member, whereas they have already decided who to choose? I googled it but to no avail.

@Færd May his sonnets be a joy to you as they have to so many millions of us for the past four hundred years and counting.
> But wherefore do not you a mightier way
Make war upon this bloody tyrant, Time?
And fortify yourself in your decay
With means more blessed than my barren rhyme?
Now stand you on the top of happy hours,
And many maiden gardens, yet unset,
With virtuous wish would bear your living flowers
Much liker than your painted counterfeit:
So should the lines of life that life repair,
Which this time’s pencil, or my pupil pen,
Neither in inward worth nor outward fair,
Can make you live yourself in eyes of men.
There's really a great deal of iambic pentameter.
See the "Elizabethan sonnet".
14 lines: abab cdcd efef gg
Each of these has its own Wikipedia entry, and volume upon volume of scholarship. :)
@tchrist Thanks! This is an attractive introduction for me.
His word usage seems only slightly different from today's currency.
It's not too far, no.
Like a mightier way instead of in a mightier way.
20:19
Elizabethan English is by definition Modern English.
Howsoever flowery and long its stanzas run.
Fie! I've been caught by the amber of iambic pentameter!
@tchrist I learned the key ideas reading Mary Oliver's A Poetry Handbook, but I certainly have to brush up.
You start speaking that way after reading too much of it at once. :)
That happens to me in Farsi all the time.
After listening to it for some time, the rhythm molds your mind.
Even your thoughts dance to the rhythm.
@Færd Even this will catch you: luthien.awardspace.co.uk/leithian.html
Trochaic tetrameter.
> A king there was in days of old
ere men yet walked upon the mould.
His power was reared in caverns' shade;
his hand was over glen and glade.
His shields were shining as the moon,
his lances keen of steel were hewn.
Of silver grey his crown was wrought;
the starlight in his banners caught,
and silver thrilled his trumpets long
beneath the stars in challenge strong.
Reading won't be sufficient for me at this stage. I'm going to need to listen to every poem I study, until I get to the point where I can hear it correctly in my head.
20:26
> The world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone
When Durin woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless hills and dells;
He drank from yet untasted wells;
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,
And saw a crown of stars appear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.

The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
So that's ...
That one is short enough to memorize. Many are.
> a KING there WAS in DAYS of OLD
Right? Is that what iambic means?
Oh right, it's iambic not trochaic.
(LONG-short) x 4
Right.
20:28
> Afar then in Beleriand,
in Doriath's beleaguered land, 20
King Thingol sat on guarded throne
in many-pillared halls of stone.
There beryl, pearl and opal pale
and metal wrought like fishes' mail,
buckler and corselet, axe and sword 25
and gleaming spears were laid in hoard.
All these he had and counted small,
for dearer than all wealth in hall
and fairer than are born to Men
a daughter had he, Lúthien. 30
Tolkien wrote very little pentameter; some, but it is not well-kown.
He much preferred the four-foot line of poets anterior to the Elizabethans.
Hmm.
It's because alliterative poetry ran by different rules.
Mordred in secret   mirthless watched them
betwixt hate and envy,   hope and torment.
Thus was bred the evil,   and the black shadow
o’er the courts of Arthur   as a cloud growing
dimmed the daylight   darkling slowly.
Those rules ^^^^^
    When the siege and the assault had ceased at Troy,
    and the fortress fell in flame to firebrands and ashes,
    the traitor who the contrivance of treason there fashioned
    was tried for his treachery, the most true upon earth--
    it was Æneas the noble and his renowned kindred
    who then laid under them lands, and lords became
    of well-nigh all the wealth in the Western Isles.
    When royal Romulus to Rome his road had taken,
    in great pomp and pride. he peopled it first,
    and named it with his own name that yet now it bears;
Alliteration was more important in the earlier stages of rhyme, wasn't it?
This was formal alliteration.
Then rhyming became about the endings.
That's too simplistic probably. I know little about English verse, sorry.
20:33
It's ok.
Most people don't know how the alliterative verse of the North ran.
The Middle English Gawain poet used both the old alliterative verse and the new-style end-rhyme at the end of each set. Look at that "when the siege and assault..." stanza.
> where strange things, strife and sadness,
at whiles in the land did fare,
and each other grief and gladness
oft fast have followed there.
That managed both at once.
Mind you, that's Tolkien's translation of Sir Gawain into Modern English from Middle English, but still: it preserves the metrical devices.
I was thinking about the exact same matter, how both techniques are incorporated, especially in the last lines.
There are four "feet" in the old style, and rules about what goes where for alliteration, and how.
Strange and strife do prolly alliterate.
Oh yes.
What about grief and glad?
20:38
Yes.
Interesting. That's a weaker kind, maybe.
fast and followed?
And all vowels alliterate with each other.
Yes.
And alliteration only counts the stressed syllables.
And doesn't care about syllable count, just stress count.
@tchrist Oh good point. I wasn't aware of that.
In prosody, alliterative verse is a form of verse that uses alliteration as the principal ornamental device to help indicate the underlying metrical structure, as opposed to other devices such as rhyme. The most commonly studied traditions of alliterative verse are those found in the oldest literature of the Germanic languages, where scholars use the term 'alliterative poetry' rather broadly to indicate a tradition which not only shares alliteration as its primary ornament but also certain metrical characteristics. The Old English epic Beowulf, as well as most other Old English poetry, the Old...
@tchrist That's at total variance with how rhythm works in Faris poetry.
20:41
@Færd YES!!!
It's the syllables that set the beat there.
> From dark Dunharrow in the dim morning
with thane and captain rode Thengel's son:
to Edoras he came, the ancient halls
of the Mark-wardens mist-enshrouded;
golden timbers were in gloom mantled.
Farewell he bade to his free people,
hearth and high-seat, and the hallowed places,
where long he had feasted ere the light faded.
Forth rode the king, fear behind him,
fate before him. Fealty kept he;
oaths he had taken, all fulfilled them.
Forth rode Théoden. five nights and days
east and onward rode the Eorlingas
That's the old kind.
"oaths" alliterates with "all"
> Forth rode the king, fear behind him,
fate before him. Fealty kept he;
oaths he had taken, all fulfilled them.
It's the breathing: in and out, in and out
Nice.
"Foe" and "fire", "doom" and "dark", ...
It's getting easier to rock along.
For Turgon towering    in terrible anger
a pathway clove him    with his pale sword-blade
out of that slaughter --    yea, his swath was plain
through the hosts of Hell    like hay that lieth
all low on the lea    where the long scythe goes.
That's how all poetry in both Old English and in Old Norse always worked.
So it's how Beowulf works.
Middle English went both ways. The poets of Modern English know it not.
Alone in Shakespeare's opus can in Macbeth be found echoes of the elder poets’ devices.
There are countless instances of alliterative assonance in Macbeth.
> I saw you from that very window there,
Making the gravel leap and leap in air,
Leap up, like that, like that, and land so lightly
And roll back down the mound beside the hole.
That's Frost.
Look at the third line.
20:50
Yes, alliteration persists, but is seldom formalized.
So it doesn't have to follow strict rules.
With alliterative assonance, you match the first and last consonants in one-syllable words but vary the vowel in the middle.
"strick" rules are for elementary math :)
Like "fail" and "fall".
"beat" and "boat"
@CupFever Math has its own poetry, mind you.
20:52
true dat pal
@tchrist Do you have an example at hand in action?
I mean, used in a poem.
Assonance, as in repetition of the same vowels, could be easier to exemplify.
Alliterative assonance takes it to another level.
Mathematical beauty describes the notion that some mathematicians may derive aesthetic pleasure from their work, and from mathematics in general. They express this pleasure by describing mathematics (or, at least, some aspect of mathematics) as beautiful. Mathematicians describe mathematics as an art form or, at a minimum, as a creative activity. Comparisons are often made with music and poetry. Bertrand Russell expressed his sense of mathematical beauty in these words: Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty—a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture,...
Shame. Euler's identity is mangled on that page.
It should always be written this way:
In mathematics, Euler's identity (also known as Euler's equation) is the equality e i π + 1 = 0 {\displaystyle e^{i\pi }+1=0} where e is Euler's number, the base of natural logarithms, i is the imaginary unit, which satisfies i2 = −1, and π is pi, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. Euler's identity is named after the Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler. It is considered to be an example of mathematical beauty, perhaps a supreme example...
why "always"?
Because it's more beautiful!
By taking 1 to the other side of the equation, you'll have no 0 in it.
21:02
zero is everywhere :)
except, of course, the denominator
But it comes naturally in e^{i\pi }+1=0.
Anyway, the point is the mind could work the same way in poetry and math, making aesthetic sense of arrangements and motifs and such.
And I need to get some sleep now.
See you.
(correction: e^{i.pi }+1=0, of course)
@CupFever For our further info :)
> Euler's identity is often cited as an example of deep mathematical beauty.[3] Three of the basic arithmetic operations occur exactly once each: addition, multiplication, and exponentiation. The identity also links five fundamental mathematical constants:The number 0.
The number 1.
The number π (π = 3.141...).
The number e (e = 2.718...), which occurs widely in mathematical analysis.
The number i, the imaginary unit of the complex numbers.
> Furthermore, the equation is given in the form of an expression set equal to zero, which is common practice in several areas of mathematics.
Now really off to sleep.
21:28
@Færd a few
> I have lived long enough. My way of life
Is fall'n into the sere, the yellow leaf,
lifeleaf
> And on thy blade and dudgeon gouts of blood
> Good sir, why do you start, and seem to fear
Things that do sound so fair?
Somewhere I have a book that lists a zillion of these.
> I have lived long enough.
My way of life
Is fall'n into the sere,
the yellow leaf,
Written that way it looks like the consonants at the end of lines 1, 2, and 4 "rhyme".
> Fair is foul and fouls is fair: Hover through the fog and filthy air.
 
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22:40
@tchrist scion?
@Færd how does it work in Farsi?
@CupFever Don't live in fear of censorship if you aren't forced to.
@Færd Canada and England are probably the most progressive ones, but they, too, are often pretty rightwing compared to most other Western European countries.
Then comes New Zealand.
Then Australia, and then perhaps America.
It depends a little bit on how much importance you place on which issues, how you classify those countries.
And of course there are some issues in which e.g. Canada and England are more progressive than most other Western European countries.
And it's cyclic, politics: it depends also on which party is in power at the moment. So the current situation may diverge from the average.
Canada is quite different now than under Harper.
but England?
Because the Anglo-Saxon countries mostly copied England's winner-take-all system, they often have two highly dominant parties, which results in more political moodswings (no centre parties, nor parties that represent minority opinions).
@Mitch England is more rightwing now than under Labour, but Blair was pretty rightwing for a leftist party, and the previous Tory government (Cameron) was forced to coöperate with a centre party for the first time (in history?), so the difference was less pronounced.
Or forced to coalesce, I should probably say.
22:58
@Mitch flagged
Oh, and does Ireland count?
It's a bit schizophrenic, but I think it's becoming more progressive fairly rapidly nowadays.
From all the interviews during the recent referendum, Irish people seem very modern thinking. I dont know about the politicians
Yeah, especially the young ones are probably aequal to Britons.
Maybe it's similar to Poland and Iran in that respect.
it was interviews with older people that were surprisingly liberal
By the way, do you use the word homemaker?
@Mitch Well, there will always be some people.
(I find this word rather silly.)
(It suggests to me someone who builds houses, not a housewife.)
23:04
0
Q: What's the word for an organization that sells stuff?

extremeaxe5This is a very simple question. What is the word describing an entity that sells stuff? 'Retailer' doesn't seem to work that well, but seems to carry the connotation of selling primarily to consumers. 'Seller,' maybe works? But I'm not super stoked about it.

@Cerberus It was the word of choice in the 60's-70's as a more modern alternative at the time to housewife which sounds old fashioned
Hah.
but now homemaker sounds silly because of its literal interpretation (like you hear it).
the term used nowadays is stay at home mom or SAHM
are there similar nominal difficulties in Dutch?
I think a love of euphemisms is more typical of your culture, although we're importing some of that nowadays.
But I can't think of any alternative to huisvrouw.
which sounds really oldfashioned to me
23:10
Well, it is an old-fashioned occupation.
Far fewer people are huisvrouwen or huismannen now.
The latter does sound unusual, though.
As a word.
SAHD/stay at home dad I think is more popular now
house cat vs outdoors cat
nope, indoors cat, not house cat
Binnenkat or buitenkat.
cats
Cats, indeed.
I've petted two today.
indoors or outdoors?
hausfrau sounds so...
second sex, feminine mystique, 1950's
23:19
One outdoors, the other indoors.
One in the garden of the local branch of the Hermitage, the other in my friend's house who is holidaying in Japan.
what is the Hermitage?
The State Hermitage Museum (Russian: Госуда́рственный Эрмита́ж, tr. Gosudárstvennyj Ermitáž, IPA: [ɡəsʊˈdarstvʲɪnɨj ɪrmʲɪˈtaʂ]) is a museum of art and culture in Saint Petersburg, Russia. The second-largest museum in the world, it was founded in 1764 when Empress Catherine the Great acquired an impressive collection of paintings from the Berlin merchant Johann Ernst Gotzkowsky. The museum celebrates the anniversary of its founding each year on 7 December, Saint Catherine's Day. It has been open to the public since 1852. Its collections, of which only a small part is on permanent display, comprise...
23:44
@Cerberus They have branches? Like a bank or library?
Can't you just see the stuff on line or in a book?
23:59
@Mitch A bit like that. What term would you use?
@Mitch Perhaps, but not in 3D.

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