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Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt Your violin has pedals?
Færd
Færd
01:09
@MetaEd So it has to be a period of twelve full months that has just passed. Hmm.
@Cerberus In all your interpretations too it's a period of 12 (almost) full months.
But I guess it'd depend on what you meant by month. If you mean calendar months, then an unfinished month is still a month. So l'm leaning more towards @TRiG's opinion.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Færd But I think his and mine are the same.
Færd
Færd
He wouldn't mind counting the unfinished current month as the twelfth one.
(Which can only be construed as the current calendar month)
Cerberus
Cerberus
Where did he say that?
Okay, I see how you're reading that line of his.
But I'm not sure whether he intended it that way.
Of course in a loose context, anything is possible.
Færd
Færd
I tried it to be explicitly clear what I meant.
@Cerberus Yeah.
Do you think there could be any difference between the last twelve months and the past twelve months?
Other than the fact that the former could point out the last months of a period in the past.
OK so that's one difference.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Maybe the last twelve months could suggest a bit more temporal distance between that period and now?
Færd
Færd
01:22
Yes, I suppose.
Cerberus
Cerberus
I think I would say past.
Færd
Færd
Where?
Cerberus
Cerberus
I would say, the past twelve months have been rough.
Or, rather, the past year.
I would use last year with a different meaning and without the article.
Færd
Færd
Umm, that's not my sentence, but OK.
@Cerberus I guess the last year would be possible too, in the same sense?
Cerberus
Cerberus
7 hours ago, by Færd
Does "for the past twelve months" include the unfinished current month as the twelfth one?
@Færd Maybe, but I don't think I would say that.
Færd
Færd
01:26
OK.
Cerberus
Cerberus
What induced this question?
Færd
Færd
I was just checking past in the dictionary.
Wondering about its possible constructions.
Cerberus
Cerberus
It is indeed versatile.
Færd
Færd
Incidentally, partway is not an uncommon word, don't you think?
Like partway through the term.
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Cerberus
Cerberus
01:33
@Færd Indeed, I do not.
Færd
Færd
But it's not used that often in this room: chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=partway&room=95
As a matter of fact, it has only been used by native speaking participants in this room.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Maybe spelled with a space.
Færd
Færd
chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=part+way&user=&room=95
Good point.
My point still holds, though. Almost.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Heh.
Færd
Færd
I bet there are a hundred "less common" words that are more frequently used here.
Cerberus
Cerberus
01:35
And how about part of the way?
Yes, no doubt.
Færd
Færd
@Cerberus Is it relevant to partway?
Cerberus
Cerberus
I think I would probably prefer part of the way wherever possible.
Færd
Færd
This is one of the things that fascinates me about nativeness. The frequency distribution of the vocab a non-native speaker uses will be invariably different.
> He resigned part way through the two-year contract.
> He resigned part of the way through the contract. (?)
Cerberus
Cerberus
Maybe.
You've made me suffer from semantic satiation now!
Færd
Færd
Oh please excuse my persistence!
Am taking off now. See you when you get your appetite back.
Cerberus
Cerberus
01:42
No need to apologize!
@Færd Adieu.
Færd
Færd
02:18
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Nice.
Mitch
Mitch
02:41
@bertieb of course
@Færd this chat is not a good general representative corpus of English
Only roughly 30 common attendees with their own idiosyncratic lexica and syntagma
 
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Feeds
Feeds
06:13
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Q: one word for 'designing approaches for greater participation'

Chinmay Chhatbarwhat is the one word for "designing approaches for greater participation"? I have tried to find out synonyms for participation. I thought if I could club it with designing but still I have not been able to found or form a single word for the mentioned activity.

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
07:30
@FaheemMitha yep. Pain killers like ibuprofen, for example
 
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Educ
Educ
10:44
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Hi
I would like to find midterm and exam with solution of Modals reported speech and passive voice in website ending by .edu how can I do that someone please could help me I would like to practice some exam from university of USA
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
11:23
In the 19 century, there was a European opposition leader who selt-taught English by reading Shakespeare in prison, and went on to become a famous orator.
I forgot his name. I remember reading a Wikipedia article about him.
His speeches in English are considered masterpieces
Googling brought be nowhere. It seems that he was Hungarian, but I'm not sure about that
Maybe someone here remembers about him
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Moderately interesting fact. Tracing the Mathematical Geneology of an American mathematician back enough (for no good reason), leads to... Iran. Sometime in the 12th century. Specifically, to this gentleman - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
@Færd and @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ , thinking of you.
I'm surprised they have such detailed information, actually.
Mitch
Mitch
11:41
@FaheemMitha link for him in Mathematical Grneology? Link for the American mathematician there?
All the royalty in Europe somehow trace lineage back to Charlemagne
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch I closed those windows, but I suppose I can find it again if you really care.
Educ
Educ
12:12
please someone help me
Feeds
Feeds
0
Q: Is there a way of simplifying the phrase 'socioeconomic disadvantages'?

JidoujoeI want to simplify the phrase 'socioeconomic disadvantages' in the following sentence. 'Patient interaction brings to life how socioeconomic disadvantages can create unique health problems for local people'

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Mitch
Mitch
12:40
@FaheemMitha Yes
@Educ google search?
caub
caub
@Cerberus 'assignment' for example, there are 2 consonants after i, yet this i is aɪ
Educ
Educ
13:01
@Mitch I used but i can't find exam or midterm with solution which contains modal verbs passive voice reported speech
Could you help me please
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch So you do care?
Mitch
Mitch
@Educ My help was suggesting google search.
that's all I know
not everyone publishes exams and solutions.
There are lots of things that are not on the web
@FaheemMitha Yes
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Fine, I'll try to find it.
MacPherson
MacPherson
who knows, does "be up to" always imply to do something bad or illegal and secretly in addition? can I say "I am up to do that job task tomorrow"?
to my boss
Feeds
Feeds
0
Q: What is a word for something that once was, but will never be again?

Zaahid BondAny Ideas? I remember learning this word when I was a kid, but I have since forgotten it.

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Mitch
Mitch
13:13
@MacPherson Sure and what you say doesn't have any implication that the task is questionable.
Educ
Educ
@Mitch Yes, I agree with you, I told you so because I used to do it for mathematics for exameple :
theory number exam solution site:.edu
math.dartmouth.edu/~jvoight/Su2004-115/2004-115-F-sol.pdf
I tired to do so for Grammar English but with no luck
Mitch
Mitch
@Educ some profs put there exams and solutions out there as a service to the students, but it is totally on an individual basis and if the prof has ease in the ability to do it (has access to their own website, can program, etc)
institutions don't do it as a rule.
@Educ I'd expect language teachers not to have any easy ability to do this, even if they wanted to.
Educ
Educ
yes I see :(
Feeds
Feeds
13:30
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Q: Meaning and usage of the word "Unchainable"

angelo29I'd like to use the word "unchainable" in the context of a short novel, but I see that such a word is not popular. Plus maybe its meaning could be misunderstood, as I want it to mean "that cannot be chained", and refer it to a person. An expedient to mean "no chain can tie her up", with one only ...

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Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch The American mathematician is genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=9364
Nick Kuhn. His father was also a mathematician.
And the Iranian mathematician's MG page is genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=230926
But you could have found that yourself, by searching.
If you go back in time, you'll find some people had more than one advisor, so it isn't a simple straight line search.
But in the ancestry of Nick Kuhn is this Iranian mathematician.
Though I forget the route I took.
In the US, it's actually quite common to end up with Gauss or someone like that. Once you leave the 20th century, there are a lot fewer mathematicians.
Feeds
Feeds
13:51
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Q: Word, Phrase or Idiom for "seemingly OK, but internally bad"

JuyaThere are things that are seemingly OK but have problems within. For instance a food might seem OK but be poisonous. Or a translation might seem OK but in fact be awful since it has omitted or changed the main message. How can we describe such things? Even people might be seemingly nice but inter...

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Feeds
Feeds
14:25
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Q: Is there a more general term for "googling" that doesn't imply a particular search engine?

GuyGizmoNowadays lots of people use the word "google" as a verb, past tense "googled", which generally means to search the web using Google's search engine. When used as a gerund the word of typically "googling". (I'm not sure if these words should be capitalized, but that's not relevant to my question.)...

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Mitch
Mitch
14:50
@FaheemMitha nice
that is a fun site to explore, just by clicking
@FaheemMitha Euler is the other single point 'doktorgroßvater' for European mathematicians from 1800 on. but yes, overlap because of sometimes two advisors.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
That mathematician's father was a good friend of John Nash, apparently.
A little trivia there.
Mitch
Mitch
MG is a long long work in progress and for some areas not very well filled out. The 20thc is best, and the 21st c names are being submitted as people feel like it when they graduate. For the European renaissance and the Islamic world, MG is spotty because the historical record is spotty (only a mention in a book here or there)
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Though JN sounds like quite the weirdo, even for a math person. But I suppose even weirdos can have friends.
Mitch
Mitch
Well, mental illness often exhibits itself as 'weirdness'
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch I'm surprised they have as much information as they do. At one point I went backwards through quite a long string of Italian mathematicians, reaching into the Middle Ages, but I suppose they have a long mathematical history, and good records.
@Mitch It sounds like he was quite strange before the illness hit.
But strange is not unusual for math people. I spent quite a lot of my life in math departments. Sometimes strange would have been putting it mildly.
Mitch
Mitch
14:58
It's most likely a string of submissions by someone who found one book on 'history of Italian mathematicians in Padua and Florence' or something like that
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Perhaps.
I didn't pay attention to the locations. The MG project would make it easier if they could just automatically provide graphs pointing back.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha People really try to compensate for what they know to be out of the ordinary behavior of their own. Until the chemicals go too far and they can't compensate enough. Like depression or very differently schizophrenia. 1/2 of people walking down the street are trying hard to act like they're normal.
The other half...
not trying very hard
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch You might be right.
Then again, what's normal, anyway? Is Trump normal, for example? And half the Republican wackjobs sitting in Congress. And all the career criminals out there? Etc. etc., etc.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha They've only gone so far. They just consider themselves a non-funded fun repository of crowd sourced info. Their UI and openness could be greatly improved, moved to the 2010's, but they should just make it totally open to let people do things like you suggest
@FaheemMitha normal is not the right word. acting on natural impulses.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch They might need more software development support. Particularly on the web site.
Mitch
Mitch
15:02
other people don't like it (for good natural reasons of their own).
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
But I don't know anything about the people behind it.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha academia. no money in the math department
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Living off the grad students. I know the drill.
Mitch
Mitch
OEIS is in a similar situation.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Did you go to math grad, or undergrad?
MetaEd
MetaEd
15:19
@Færd I think it depends on context. If I were in an accounting context where monthly periods are important, it would be full months.
Mitch
Mitch
15:48
CS, both
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Ok.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha And you?
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
16:04
@Mitch My background is mostly math, but my PhD is in statistics.
Math masters.
Mitch
Mitch
nice
mine was mostly math directed, not systems
Cerberus
Cerberus
16:37
@caub Sure, there are plenty of exceptions.
Assignment is pronounced like sign.
And the g is mute in sign.
So that makes the pronunciation somewhat less unexpected, although of course something like gin (the drink) would be normal.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Math directed?
Hi @Cerberus.
Mitch
Mitch
@FaheemMitha let's say theoretical rather than implementations
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Mitch Ah. The CS, you mean?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Greetings.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Cerberus Hi is also a valid alternative.
Feeds
Feeds
16:47
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Q: Word for a network of groups/societies

Ben WileyI'm looking for a word that means a strongly or weakly connected network of groups/societies. These societies can choose to be in communication or may not. The point is that a society or group is generally understood to be a somewhat cohesive and communicative whole whereas groups in this broader...

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Cerberus
Cerberus
Barely.
And I think that's pleonastic.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Cerberus What is?
Cerberus
Cerberus
> also...alternative
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Cerberus I suppose so.
Cerberus
Cerberus
How's the weather?
Mitch
Mitch
17:01
@Cerberus How dare you.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh, is that an insult in your culture?
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus It's an insult to me at this moment.
I suppose I shouldn't be so harsh; you couldn't know.
But, good point, in my culture you can actually do something about the weather, and questioning its quality is implying that you haven't done enough to make it better.
Cerberus
Cerberus
How unfortunate for you.
Mitch
Mitch
Yes
Cerberus
Cerberus
What can you do about the weather?
Turn on the a/c?
Mitch
Mitch
17:05
But it'll get warmer and sunnier later in the day but not too hot.
So there's hope
@Cerberus That's for simpletons
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh, how cold is it?
It was about 14 here.
Exactly in between cool and comfortable.
Mitch
Mitch
looks at themometer ... 20C
so I shouldn't complain
Cerberus
Cerberus
That's nigh perfect.
Mitch
Mitch
I'm complaining about yesterday
Cerberus
Cerberus
You shouldn't, but it feels so good?
Mitch
Mitch
17:06
When it was 12 and drizzly
It's wrong for mid May
wrong as in illogical, against the natural order, an affront to all that is good
You should ask me about lunch instead. I have much nicer things to say about it.
caub
caub
@Cerberus sighs yes thanks!
12 and drizzly? is that 4 times tree-fiddy?
Cerberus
Cerberus
8 degrees is a large rise.
A high rise?
caub
caub
depends which degree
I'd hope the SI ones
yes global warming, I hate that
Soon people will live in Antarctica
we should be taxed according to our environmental impact
someone polluting a lot, should pay a lot
MetaEd
MetaEd
@caub They do now.
Mitch
Mitch
17:23
@MetaEd It's not livable until there's a Starbucks
uh...
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Cerberus
Cerberus
@caub Agreed.
It's sick how industry pays far less for energy than ordinary citizens do.
Robusto
Robusto
@caub That's not how it's done in the U.S. Corporations pollute a lot, and ordinary people pay for it. It's part of the Trump Doctrine.
Cerberus
Cerberus
And I believe ships and aeroplanes pay hardly an tax at all on the fuel they burn outside a country's territory.
Ships cause a lot more pollution than aeroplanes.
@Mitch So why is this chain so big?
It's bad coffee, right?
I don't drink coffee, but it's what I hear.
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus The oceans represent the 21st century version of the Tragedy of the Commons.
Cerberus
Cerberus
And they don't even wait on your table.
caub
caub
17:32
ah, US.., but well, it's a global problem anyway, every single individual should take care
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus It's pretty decent coffee. It's like San Francisco coffee available everywhere.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Robusto Kind of. Or they are the stage on which the tragedy is acted out, the commons being the atmosphaere.
@Robusto Hmm everyone I know here disagrees...
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus Atmosphaere? That's a novel spelling.
Cerberus
Cerberus
They say it's low quality.
@Robusto Well, how else would you expect me to spell it?
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerberus Then they're just wrong. You should see the crap that passes for coffee here. Granted Starbucks isn't the best you could get, but at least you know it will be a solid B+, not "maybe an F" ...
caub
caub
17:34
"atmosphere" is more common
Cerberus
Cerberus
Okay.
Maybe it has to do with standards.
Robusto
Robusto
Not only more common, but actually the way it's fucking spelled.
caub
caub
but that's just your latinist side showing up, it's fine!
Robusto
Robusto
@Cerb's latinist side always shows up.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Indeed.
It's just easily turned on.
Robusto
Robusto
17:37
We always knew you were easy, but thanks for the walkthrough of how to do it.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Sure.
We have a saying in Dutch, where you can characterise a man as someone who walks after his penis.
Robusto
Robusto
Anyway, the atmosphere is another commons. The two are related, but not in the sense of one merely providing a proscenium for the other.
Note I said proscenium instead of stage. [See @Cerb's latinist side, above]
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well, I would say the aerial pollution that ships exude is worse than their aquatic pollution.
Robusto
Robusto
How about when they dump a million barrels of oil into the ocean?
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Robusto Yes, very good!
Robusto
Robusto
17:40
You're easy.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Robusto I think that damage is only local, and ecosystems are usually not damaged that badly, in the long term?
Whereas the CO2 they blow out damage the global climate.
Robusto
Robusto
Well, all this is arguable. What is not arguable is that both systems are vital and, unfortunately, severely stressed by humanity.
And air pollution ultimately winds up in the oceans anyway through precipitation.
Cerberus
Cerberus
That is true, acidification.
And the climate heats up the oceans.
Which is why marine tortoises in Australia are now 99% female.
Robusto
Robusto
Each is a commons, and now each is a tragedy thereof.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Can a tortoise be marine?
But we'll be all right in the end: solar and wind energy are rapidly approaching cost parity with fossil energy.
Robusto
Robusto
17:45
No. A tortoise is a land animal. Wikipedia: "tortoise is used only in reference to terrestrial turtles or, more narrowly, only those members of Testudinidae, the family of modern land tortoises."
Cerberus
Cerberus
They will reach it in the intermediate future.
Ah, right.
So one would say 'sea turtle'?
Robusto
Robusto
Yup.
Cerberus
Cerberus
I suppose one would.
Their eggs become female if they remain above a certain temperature for a certain time.
Their species is like 150 million years old.
Robusto
Robusto
Yeah.
Cerberus
Cerberus
But there are projects under way to do something about this: covering their nests with leaves after the moms are gone is enough.
And the Australians are highly motivated.
caub
caub
17:48
I've checked stats on air pollution, people easily overestimate industries part, because residential pollution is around 35%
Robusto
Robusto
@caub Industries' or industry's.
caub
caub
right, thanks
Cerberus
Cerberus
Global warming is turning green sea turtles female | ITV News
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It depends a bit on how you count.
caub
caub
nice, I was looking for somthing similar
skull
skull
I think it should be "industry's."
caub
caub
18:03
airparif.asso.fr/etat-air/air-et-climat-quelques-chiffres I had this too
"Résidential et tertiaire"
@skull let's say industrial parts to avoid the problem:p
Robusto
Robusto
TripAdvisor says I'm first in line for their new Vatican tour. Yep, just can't get enough of Catholic pageantry and wretched excess.
skull
skull
ok, np
Robusto
Robusto
@skull You don't get a vote. The issue has already been resolved.
skull
skull
so...i'm not allowed to express an opinion? :P
(note, i did say "i think")
Robusto
Robusto
@skull Sorry. I don't make the rules.
skull
skull
18:17
industries'
yeah, yeah. you're just "doing your job;" as they say
wow, does putting a semicolon there^ look wierd?
Robusto
Robusto
Yes. That semicolon was ill-advised.
skull
skull
cool
Robusto
Robusto
Remember, a semicolon is what you have after you receive a colostomy.
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus all the land turtles and sea tortoises look at each other warily at the annual meeting of LWTTT
Land Water Trans Turtle Tortoise
or Land Water Trans Tortoise Turtle
they get really upset over that
skull
skull
colostomy
Noun: colostomy (plural colostomies)
  1. An incision into the colon to allow for drainage.
  2. The opening produced in such incision.
Mitch
Mitch
18:26
Also Mock Turtle soup
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch That sounds like a lot of fun.
Mitch
Mitch
Real Turtle soup is served in its own shell
@Cerberus The parties are great fun, but they go on forever and are a little slow
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Airbnb has a presence in Cuba. I wasn't expecting that.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Just like humanist conventions, where they serve human brain ragoût in its own shell?
Mitch
Mitch
18:46
@Cerberus Eww...ragout
That should be made not kosher
Like mixing the mothers milk with the blood of the lamb
a ham and cheese sandwich
Like any good zombie vampire that keeps kosher, you should wait at least six hours between eating brains and using the skull to drink the blood
Common sense really
Robusto
Robusto
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It's funny because it's true.
Funny and true.
@Mitch Or Israel and Palestine.
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto sigh
Robusto
Robusto
Because, you know, nothing says peace like 60 people shot to death.
Are we tired of winning yet?
That was supposed to be Genius Jared Kushner's task. One of them.
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto it's their fault really for getting in the way of the bullets
@Robusto It's not like he cares
Robusto
Robusto
It's not like he has a clue, either.
I guess that's a strength in the Trump administration, not having a clue.
Mitch
Mitch
18:58
There really should be a really long set of stairs, really long, with no landings or anything, that they should stand at the top of and accidentally fall down
And steep
like the baby carriage in the Battleship Potemkin
but no carriage
and instead of a baby, a bucket of bowling balls
made of glass
glass bowling balls
just work with me here
Robusto
Robusto
This dream is getting pretty specific.
Mitch
Mitch
it's aspirational
I mean, you want the balls to start rolling slowly and not smash right away
but you do want them to smash
a lot
as they speed up
Christ, who's gonna clean up all that mess
so many many shards
skull
skull
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Færd
Færd
19:16
@Mitch Yes, but it's still possible to extract remarkable data from it.
@MetaEd Yes. Thanks.
@FaheemMitha feels honored
Do you know what pains they took to take down those simple equations back then?
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Færd I take it you're not actually interested in Iranian mathematicians, then?
Færd
Færd
Why not? I could be.
Mitch
Mitch
@Færd sure, I'm just giving a general warning about any inferences you might make from it. it's not a representative corpus
Færd
Færd
Sure it's not.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Does anyone here have thoughts on the subject of coffee machines?
Or could they?
@Færd Dunno. Lots of people don't care about maths. Though, actually, I think you're a math student. Or were. And a teacher?
Færd
Færd
19:21
I studied physics and loved math.
Yes, I taught both at high school.
In fact I have gone over some of those historic math documents. Their algebra was excruciatingly hard, because of their primitive notation. They wrote everything down in words, and not in the straightforward way that you'd read out an equation.
So their achievements in math and geometry and whatnot are quite amazing.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Færd Yes, notation is important. As are the right concepts.
Færd
Færd
But figuring how to simplify the language was a true game-changer.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Færd What language?
Færd
Færd
The mathematical notation.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Færd ok.
Notation isn't the same as language, though.
Færd
Færd
19:31
Fill me in. What is language, technically speaking?
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Ok, so no interest in coffee machines, then.
@Færd Hmm. Hard to come up with a definition.
Færd
Færd
@FaheemMitha Sorry. Not for my part. I drink instant coffee.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I don't drink it at all, so I really have no idea.
MetaEd
MetaEd
@Mitch Heck there's one in Second Life
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
/me is now waiting for someone to ask me why I want a coffee machine when I don't drink it...
Færd
Færd
19:36
@FaheemMitha Why in heaven's name indeed? :D
.
Heard this American academic pronounce upend like YOU-PEND, not UP-END. Weird, innit?
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
19:49
@Færd I'm so glad you asked. It's for my Airbnb rental.
terdon
terdon
@FaheemMitha Yes, very much so.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@terdon Do tell. Though I just purchased a French Press.
The top hit for amazon.in/s/…
terdon
terdon
If you want to be super good, give choices: i) something decent and easy to use like a nespresso machine, ii) a little bialetti moka (probably a 3-cup) and iii) a percolator.
Ah yes, a french press could also serve, indeed.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
And here are options for a drip coffee maker - amazon.in/s/…
@terdon The question is whether I want to be super good in the context of a Aibnb rental.
terdon
terdon
I'd go for a french press and a bialetti then, and maybe a simple percolator.
But I'm a coffee freak.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
19:58
@terdon All three? After a French Press, which one would you go for?
terdon
terdon
@FaheemMitha My GF has a nespresso, a moka and instant coffee in hers.
@FaheemMitha Me? The moka.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
The French Press was pretty cheap, only Rs. 1300. Around USD 35 or so.
terdon
terdon
Yes. So's the moka.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@terdon Well, imagine you are a coffee everyman.
terdon
terdon
amazon.in/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/…
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
19:59
What would people be most likely to prefer?
terdon
terdon
These days, probably nespresso.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@terdon Those are more pricey. How tough are they?
terdon
terdon
But I'm afraid I have to go. Dinner.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I'm looking for something reasonably self-contained.
@terdon Ok, thank you for the feedback.
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MetaEd
MetaEd
20:41
@terdon Those little moka pots are great.
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20:53
@FaheemMitha I, um, I swear I'm not that old
I'm being modest here
I am older than that
Molecules such as I are stable in space
I'm currently chatting from right outside Jupiter.
The WiFi sucks down . . . Up . . . Ah whatever, directions are meaningless . . . Here
MetaEd
MetaEd
Outside Jupiter I'd think the most meaningful direction would be Down.
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