English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

4:00 AM

@tchrist I read a statistic that said 1/3 of all American women had been molested as children. It's appalling to contemplate that.

tchrist

And 1/5 of all American men.

Here's the thing.

Even that 1/3 number is misleading.

Færd

The figures are comparable when it comes to children.

tchrist

Because show me a woman who hasn't been made uncomfortable because of sex.

Robusto

Well, true.

tchrist

I think too much. That stuff gives me nightmares.

Robusto

4:02 AM

I hope the outing of all these men as abusers is not going to blow away.

tchrist

So many of them get away with it for so long. That's its own crime.

Robusto

You know, growing up male you take a lot of shit for granted that only later do you realize how awful it is.

tchrist

Yes, I've been embarrassed by that realization.

I hate to say this, but you can probably s/male/white/ and say the same thing.

Robusto

My wife and I watched the Robert Altman movie MASH a couple months ago, and we were both knocked out by how misogynistic it is. It played sexism for laughs.

tchrist

It's been a while since I last saw it.

Robusto

4:05 AM

And when I saw it back in the day those thoughts never occurred to me.

tchrist

But yeah, women were treated like dirt.

Robusto

So here you have a movie in which the men are heroes and the women are either bitches or servants.

tchrist

Men like writing stories like that.

Robusto

Yes.

But that film, when I first saw it I thought it quite funny, and hip in a Playboy kind of way. I thought it was on the right side of things.

tchrist

yeah

Robusto

4:08 AM

The "cool kids" fighting stupid authority.

Yet perpetuating the oppression of women at the same time.

tchrist

One point of view says that real progress against old mindsets requires letting the generations pass so that the bad memes literally die off.

Robusto

Honestly, I think it is thrilling that women are coming into their own. Have we taken leave of our senses to suppose that we can suppress the contribution to our society that half of the species can make?

tchrist

Men who were raised to be sexual bigots may not be curable. They may have to simply die off for those attitudes to go away.

People who were raised to be racial bigots may not be curable. They may have to simply die off for those attitudes to go away.

Robusto

Maybe. But then so will an awful lot of women, too. Because 53% of white women voted for Trump.

tchrist

I don't think racial prejudice is likely to disappear in two generations.

Færd

4:11 AM

@tchrist That's too harsh.

And the previous one, too.

tchrist

I don't know if it's true. Some evidence suggests it may be.

Swap in whatever kind of bigotry you can think of. Religion. Nation.

The reason there are laws in some places against some of this is precisely because it's so hard to get rid of.

@Robusto Democracy is dreadfully sick here.

Robusto

Ayup.

Færd

As someone who has lived in a rather strict section of their society, I am delighted to see many of the bigots that I thought would never change are showing signs of enlightenment. Albeit most of those changes happened before middle age.

tchrist

The men are going to let the women share their world? Really?

Færd

Not all men, to be sure.

tchrist

4:17 AM

What happens if those women have the wrong religion? Or if they're lesbians?

Færd

But there are exceptions to the general rule of people never change.

@tchrist Some of those bigots who yesterday would never bat an eye at killing a homosexual are now against violence against those minorities on a moral basis.

tchrist

Easier to start with age 0 and train him for 20 years than to start at age 40 and ever hope for them to change.

Færd

Word.

tchrist

@Færd Really?

Færd

Yeah. But they didn't start selling out at 40.

tchrist

4:20 AM

I mean, of course being against violence shouldn't matter who the recipient is. Anything else is immoral to the point of being evil.

Tolerating violence against any group is intolerable.

Or any other sort of institutionalized mistreatment.

Færd

But I would agree with you that if its deep-rooted in you, it's likely to stay with you.

I dunno. It's easy to sit down and damn and condemn violence.

tchrist

We used to persecute the crippled.

Say bad things about them, to them. Do bad things.

That isn't violence.

But it's still horrible.

Robusto

People are, for lack of a better word, horrible.

Færd

> Broken sticks and broken stones
Will turn to dust just like our bones
It's words that hurt the most, now isn't it.

Robusto

In Louis XIV's court they used to build a bonfire and lower a net full of cats onto it as a party diversion. For amusement.

Feeds

4:27 AM

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Q: make drug to be in patient’s body

What the words (verb and noun) are used in medicine to describe the process as a result of which drug appears in the patient's body? I need the word that describes the process in general, without specifying the way (drug can be syringed into or eaten by patient, etc; it is not specified).

single-word-requests

Færd

Aren't there rodeos where they do things of the same degree to cows?

Robusto

Trumps kids like hunting prairie dogs with an assault rifle, because they enjoy the way the animals explode.

@Færd You're thinking of bullfights.

Færd

Ah, OK.

tchrist

@Robusto You know what they say about children who torture animals.

Robusto

Man is a cruel animal. The cruelest, in fact.

@tchrist That they were tortured themselves?

tchrist

4:29 AM

They grow up to be psychopaths.

Robusto

Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Færd

I chalk the horrid doings of humans to blindness. Not to evil essence.

At the end of the day, everyone does what they deem right and just deep down in their heart.

Robusto

@Færd Indifference to suffering is evil.

@Færd That doesn't explain psychopaths.

Færd

It looks evil to you because you empathize with the sufferer.

But when you lack that understanding and are blind to the sufferings of beings other than your own, it's not evil.

It's darkness. Blindess.

Robusto

@Færd That doesn't explain a mother whoring out her 10-year-old daughter to her boyfriend after he injected the girl with meth, then killing her and burning and dismemembering her body.

How do you understand that?

Oh, different strokes for different folks?

Færd

4:33 AM

I'm not justifying anything.

Robusto

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4104776/…

Færd

And I'm not sayign those people don't need to be trialed and punished for what they did.

Robusto

In case you think I'm making this up.

Færd

But I can't accept that there's there's anyone who's pure evil.

Robusto

How about the stoning in Afghanistan of women who are raped?

Færd

4:34 AM

@Robusto I could imagine worse things.

Robusto

So is that to diminish the crime? Because you can imagine something worse?

I'm getting upset.

Færd

@Robusto That one in particular, because I lived with those who believed in those practices.

@Robusto I'm not diminishing anything.

I don't know where from you get that out of my words.

And I was just telling tchrist how some of the bigots who would stone a woman to death have reflected and changed through the years.

Now, could pure evil ever change for the better?

Robusto

Some.

Færd

Sure.

Robusto

Not enough for me to change my opinion of humankind.

Anyway, I have to go now.

Færd

4:40 AM

But that some is enough for me to raises the possibility that everyone could improve.

@Robusto Take care.

I hope I didn't come off to you as someone who OK'd heinous crimes.

Or objected to proportionate punishments for those crimes.

Færd

5:01 AM

@Robusto Have you watched The Sopranos?

If yes, I would like to know your opinion of Tony Soprano, if you felt inclined to express it.

If no, I strongly recommend the series.

CowperKettle

5:50 AM

Which is the better title for a document?
1. Creation of producer cell banks and control of their quality
2. Creation and quality control of producer cell banks

Feeds

8:07 AM

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Q: Word for "doing something and forgetting it soon after"

As mentioned in the title I am looking for a word to describe someone who does an action and forgets soon after. I do not mean that one's simply being forgetful but rather that they have a psychological problem, for instance: A man wakes up at 8:00 a.m. and goes to work. At noon, halfway through...

single-word-requests

Feeds

8:23 AM

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Q: Are "mmm" and "hmm" the only words in the English language without vowels?

Somebody told me that "hmm" and "mmm" are the only words in the English language without a vowel. Is that true? If not, please provide counterexamples. No acronyms please. I am not looking for words that sound as if they have no vowels (that's already answered here), but whole words that have ...

single-word-requests

M.A.R.

9:28 AM

@CowperKettle second one?

It seems much much better than the first one

CowperKettle

10:01 AM

@M.A.R. Thanks! I'll edit the document then

Feeds

12:18 PM

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Q: Is "epidemiology" an appropriate word for the study of invasive species in an ecosystem?

I'm looking for a technical term to describe the study of infestations of invasive species. It seems that "epidemiology" is defined (by WHO) as the study of the distribution and determinants of health-related states or events (including disease), and the application of this study to the contr...

single-word-requests technical science

Feeds

3:15 PM

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Q: Seeking word to describe a psychological affliction for strange behavior of someone

My mother in law must have others in the world around her view her & think of her as a good person who does no wrong & has a perfect home life. She is very opinionated about our own life which she manipulates into something that sounds worse than it actually is. So she tries to make us look worse...

single-word-requests

Feeds

4:35 PM

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Q: A word for "the quality of being temperamental" i.e. *temperamentalness*

Temperamentalness not being a word in the English Language as such, what quality might you say someone who is temperamental possesses? Temperamentality has a bit of a "made up" ring to it too.

single-word-requests

Feeds

4:53 PM

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Q: Is there a word that means too much?

For example, my sentence is "Even a mechanical pencil, which doesn't necessitate traditional sharpening, still requires ___________ clicking." Is there a word that fits in the blank that means far too much to be convenient? I'd like to use a stronger word than excessive.

single-word-requests

Robusto

5:06 PM

@Færd Yes, I've seen the entire series. Quite an achievement, probably at its best in the way it handles dramatic irony, and somehow gets us rooting for Tony at the same time that our gorge rises at who he really is. And similarly, as for Tony himself, his lack of self-awareness is by turns funny and horrifying. He only seems truly self-aware while indulging his dark parts, yet it is his small kernel of humanity that provides the essential conflict of the series.

I could go on, but the chat format doesn't really lend itself to deep critical exegesis.

Matt E. Эллен

I'm not going to click back to the reference and assume you're talking about Tony the Tiger

Feeds

0

Q: Developmental biology term for step-wise

I am looking for a word to describe a step-wise process. I want to use the word in a developmental biology context to describe a process where success of one event depends on successful completion of previous events. Thanks

single-word-requests

Feeds

5:25 PM

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Q: What is a word for extreme type of criticism?

The type of criticism that is intended to destroy a person's reputation and self-esteem. A kind of criticism where a person's name is dragged through the mud. Is there a specific word(s) for it?

single-word-requests vocabulary

Sayros

5:59 PM

Hi All

MetaEd

Mornin.

Sayros

I would like your validation about my CV resume

A software engineer with more than 3 years of experience specializing in backend/infrastructure, web development and performance tuning.
Super nerd who loves open source projects, embedded systems and to customize all of the development environment.
Interested in live events, conferences, workshops and learning new technologies.

@MetaEd oh morning and here is 7:03 pm (Tunisia) :p

we are far and away in time zone

MetaEd

@Sayros Do you have specific questions or doubts about what you have now?

Sayros

I just would like your approval about my resume and as you know we should not send CV within wrong grammar,conjugation,etc

if you suggest other sentence I would appreciate that

MetaEd

The grammar seems unobjectionable.

Sayros

6:10 PM

Oh thats nice ^^ at least I can send my CV and be releive about what I wrote :D

Thanks you ;)

Sayros

8:00 PM

@M.A.R. Hi

M.A.R.

Hi!

Sayros

long time no see :D

M.A.R.

No kidding

How're you doin?

Sayros

good and you and Iran everything is okay ?

M.A.R.

Yep

Sayros

8:05 PM

good then

M.A.R.

As usual, they like to exaggerate everything

Foreign media, I mean

Sayros

yes usually...

havta go now see you tomorrow and give a news in what happened here in Tunisia ;)

good night

M.A.R.

@Sayros g'night

Feeds

9:51 PM

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Q: what is a word for a guy who is so kind but he's dangerous inside?

Please what is a word for a guy who is so kind with an innocent face but he's dangerous inside and can be even a serial killer? Thank you for answering

single-word-requests

Mitch

11:02 PM

Ya know, sometimes things change, and sometimes they stay the same, and sometimes it is in your favor and others times not. But in the whole are things getting better?

But also it's fun to complain.

That is all.

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