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00:03
I socialised well! we might have a gig on the 9th May!
00:17
@MattЭллен Cool!
this internet connection is unstable. I am disappoint.
I know! I'll have to rent a van.
Ooh, cool.
Vans.
well, either that or strap my drum kit to my back and walk it into town
Go for it.
Good exercise, yes?
:D if by good you mean potentially lethal, then yes. Very, Very good exercise!
00:24
Ahaha, sure.
@Mahnax nice :) I haven't heard this in a while
@MattЭллен I had pretty much ignored most of Toxicity for a good amount of time. The other day, I went back, and I loved it.
all the world I've seen before me passing by
(Different song).
@Mahnax It is a grood album. If only I were as talented as John Dolmayan
@MattЭллен Someday!
00:54
I don't understand people who can drink tea before bed. The caffeine would keep me awake. Although having something full of carbs, like a scone, might help me sleep.
do you drink tea before bed @Kit?
anyway, time for me to get some sleep. good night
Good night.
 
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03:21
@RegDwightѬſ道 Not all of us have the power to vote to close. But absolutely. I get annoyed with people who provide answers despite not having understood the question.
03:38
If anyone knows how to make the close-parenthesis part of the link, in my answer to english.stackexchange.com/questions/64204/…, please either edit my answer accordingly, or tell me how to do it.
@DavidWallace %28, IIRC
Huh?
@DavidWallace I can't seem to find edit link on your answer. Seems like someone else (you) is editing it right now.
@DavidWallace Also, instead of encoding it as %28, you can just try [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copula_(linguistics)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wik‌​i/Copula_(linguistics)) — this leaves the parenthesis intact as part of the URL
Sorry, %29 :)
04:48
@MeysamѬſ道 No, it's not me. Gigili has proposed an edit. I'm ambivalent about her edit (sorry Giggles), but because it's pending, I can't get in there and correct the ).
@Vitaly Yeah, I was looking for the instructions on how to make the text on the link different from the URL (since I'm already a connoisseur of URL encoding). I'm just not very good at finding things on SE.
Noöne is.
So I have to wait for a mod to get in there and either accept or reject Gigili's edit. Then make an edit of my own. More trouble that it's worth, now that the OP has already inexplicably accepted a different answer.
But thank you (@Vitaly) for providing the editing instructions.
@DavidWallace Rejecting my edit?
It's been known to happen, hasn't it?
No?
04:56
But as I am not a mod, it is completely beyond my powers.
Don't you dare reject my edit.
What will you do to me, if I do? (if I could)
@DavidWallace You are welcome. english.stackexchange.com/editing-help
Ooh, I can! But I didn't. I think I might have hit the wrong button.
I corrected that close-parenthesis for you. You're welcome.
04:57
but you changed the words!!
Anyways, I'm off.
All right, Gigili, thank you for editing my answer.
@DavidWallace Edit it as you want.
OK, see you later.
For some reason, the English.SE markdown FAQ is different from some other SE's markdown FAQs.
04:58
@Gigili Where on earth did you learn that American regionalism from?
I think it's odd that wikipedia has so many pages with parentheses in the URLs. I mean, why couldn't it just have been Copula_linguistics?
@Vitaly Never mind.
I'm going to miss Carlo.
@DavidWallace Because underscores are equivalent to spaces.
05:25
So?
So it would be impossible to distinguish categories from phrases.
Frankly I don't see an alternative except possibly a dash.
But brackets are clearer.
 
2 hours later…
07:02
@Cerberus Can you think of any case in which there would be a phrase entry, and an entry with a category, but made up of exactly the same words?
Hello.
@DavidWallace The point is that you need to see the difference between the two.
Hi.
Not in the URL you don't. Page title, sure, but that's not what we're discussing.
Hello, M.
@DavidWallace The things is that the two are identical on Wiki.
But they don't have to be. I consider this poor design.
07:06
How are you all at this late hour?
In any case, there's your explanation.
@Mahnax You're only one for whom this is late.
It's just after 7pm here.
See?
It's 9 am here.
@Cerberus I know.
It's 01:00 here.
Did anyone else find Carlo's reply to chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4205372#4205372 very funny? It seemed that simchona didn't realise that he had misunderstood her question.
07:12
I find Carlo in general both amusing and angering.
I LOLed out loud.
Oh hahah!
I only get it now.
At the time I just thought it was odd, like Sim.
Oh, I see too.
I wasn't there and had only glanced through that bit of the transcript before.
You do mean his misinterpretation of the word badly in that context, right?
Yes.
Quite funny.
Ah, yes.
Poor Carlo.
07:17
@Mahnax the fact that he thought it qualified "talk", rather than "want", yes. Hysterical IMO.
@DavidWallace Quite. If I laugh, I shall wake someone and be yelled at.
I'm at a friend's house. His parents are very strict about bedtimes.
Ah, childhood sleepovers! '80s flashback
Heh.
I went to the store and got two grocery bags full of decent-quality Easter chocolate for $22.
But before that, we went to McDonald's.
Mmm…
I'm off to sleep, bye.
08:03
'night
08:38
@DavidWallace the funny thing is, I'm gonna close that question. :P
It's been asked before.
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Q: What's the difference between "don't be afraid" and "don't afraid"?

TomWhat is the difference between don't be afraid and don't afraid?

08:51
@RegDwightѬſ道 You're shitting me! No way!
The newer question has better answers, though.
Well, naturally.
BTW, will you do something about the one I commented on 96 minutes ago in this room? It irks me.
Ugh.
Now I have to count to 96.
You're out of your gorram mind!
Right after Mahnax said "Poor Carlo".
I see.
Well, NARQ is too mild.
It's off-topic, plain and simple.
08:56
It's not even an imaginary question.
'Ello, G.
I do wonder, does he also say hístory-an and mathemátics-ian?
In fact I'll take the time to comment just that.
What's 'G'?
M no.
M mor dan a 'G'.
@RegDwightѬſ道 It's worth noting that the only other contribution that this user has made is to answer an identical question, that was in fact worded as a question.
09:01
You're overusing "that".
Yeah that one I saw.
@Gigili igili.
Happy now?
We will start pronouncing lawyer as "law-yer" the day you will start pronouncing historian as "hístory-an", mathematician as "mathemátics-ian", and politician as "pólitics-ian". — RegDwight Ѭſ道 7 secs ago
@Gigili Oh, a holdover from Bosnian, where just about every sentence has "da" (meaning "that") about six times.
Nöone will ever see that comment now that the question is at -6, but it felt good.
09:03
@RegDwightѬſ道 I was so angry that I forgot to downvote the question when I first saw it.
@RegDwightѬſ道 There is a perverse element here that looks at all the questions with the most downvotes first.
People will always peeve about just that one illogical word and totally forget to peeve about all the rest of this illogical universe. I'm no exception, of course.
@DavidWallace The element better be quick, then, because there's another element that does the same thing except followed by deleting them.
@DavidWallace Such unworthy things can't make me happy.
The element finds ones with enough downvotes to satisfy his perversity.
Our worstestershirestest questions are very, very hard to find even for 10kers.
Are you trying to pun on Worcestershire?
@Gigili Sorry, I gave up trying to make you happy months ago.
09:06
"Trying", "trying"... hm... let me look that one up.
14 hours ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
I don't try. I succeed. Much like Chuck Norris doesn't sleep.
It just seemed a bit lame for your normal standards.
Mar 16 '11 at 3:37, by RegDwight
My rules are unclear and flexible.
@RegDwightѬſ道 He doesn't sleep because he's old. I've memorized you.
Anyway, the perverse element gets the same pleasure on Mathematics, Programmers and StackOverflow. And sometimes Christianity.
Hm. But surely on Christianity the downvoted questions are actually good?
09:09
The downvoted answers certainly are.
@Gigili "I've memorized you" reminds me of a Soviet animated film for children, in which a little goat was learning to count, so whenever he'd meet other animals he would start counting, and they would run away in fear, crying and complaining to their moms, "He has counted me!"
That reminds me a wee bit of the bit at the end of the "Vivamus mea Lesbia" poem.
That reminds me of a movie that I wouldn't mention its name.
aut ne quis malus inuidere possit,
cum tantum sciat esse basiorum.
Of course eventually the little goat became their hero. Somehow they all end up on a boat which will only carry ten, but they don't know how many they are, so someone has to count, and only the little goat knows how to do that. And it turns out they are exactly ten, and everything is fine.
09:14
@RegDwightѬſ道 Was it a long film, then?
20 minutes or some such?
Perhaps less.
I suppose I could find it on YouTube.
8:53, in point of fact.
My goodness, there is Latin in two chat rooms right now.
I am confused. I did not post then delete a message.
wow, chat needed a refresh
Who says you have, then have?
that was all kinds of weird
alas I didn't take a screen grab
there were no starred messages, I had allegedly deleted a message and the message I did send went back in time
09:21
Check the flux capacitor.
ah, yes. that'll teach me for buying a flux capacitor from Ikea
Right, sorry Matt, I didn't see it. I was otherwise occupied for, err, 8 minute and 53 seconds.
Chicken on a raft?
@MattЭллен flåks kapasitor?
lol
it's also a handy bedside lamp
I wonder if handy only means mobile phone in German, or in Swedish, too.
Does the lamp look like this?
09:28
ooo, stylish
Actually I went looking for that lamp plus magnifying glass for the original Game Boy, but couldn't find a nice image.
Game Boy kind of predated the Internet. Also, images.
It looks like something aliens would use for sucking out the brains of humans.
@RegDwightѬſ道 The internet predated Game Boy by about 20 years. I would have expected a Russian to know that.
Seriously, GIS does have a couple previews, but whenever I click on one, it 404s.
@DavidWallace I knew you would say that.
Yes, I remember King Louis XIV's Gameboy on auction at Southerby's
Of course, I had not factored in your precognitive powers.
09:31
I absolutely do remember browsing images on the Internet in 1970.
The Internet predates the World Wide Web. Please don't confuse the two.
I knew you would say that.
Hey this is fun.
apparently the king was something of an otaku
From the profile of someone in this room.
age
32
Actually I just went to check if that was me.
I have no idea how old I am.
09:33
lol
I always have to do the math.
Well you laugh but it's true.
Jez
Jez
hey @RegDwight. You good for traduction today?
The file is sitting on my desktop.
Jez
Jez
okey....
Oh man.
Damn it., man.
The memories.
Jez
Jez
09:35
i never really got the popularity of the game boy. at the time sage had a handheld console out with a COLOUR screen
frankly, the game boy's graphics and sound were downright pathetic
even for its time
@Jez Yeah and Gamegear was expensive and blurry and it had columns but no tetris.
Jez
Jez
hmm
what's the difference between columns and tetris
Look, Dreamcast was the best console of its time, too. So what. SEGA just never got it.
@RegDwightѬſ道 such good times
Jez
Jez
didnt they? lots of people mourn Dreamcast's demise
i think consulers didnt get it :-)
09:38
@Jez there were like ten games. Eight of which sucked.
Jez
Jez
i did prefer the SNES to the Master System though. it is so replete with excellent games I still play them today
@RegDwight had the best version of DOA2 around i hear
Very much so.
I actually worked at a large department store at that time, selling gaming consoles and video games. Good times.
Game Boy Color... PSone...
Jez
Jez
or, as they called it, PS
I actually mean the revamped version. It was the size of a CD player and white.
Ah yes, and crash was the most famous game.
Jez
Jez
09:41
crush?
Oh don't get me started on all the games.
Jez
Jez
I won't.
I still remember Tekken. The first one. And Wipeout.
which was your favourite, @Reg?
Jez
Jez
I didn't.
09:41
@MattЭллен Ocarina of Time.
Jez
Jez
bah
i was disappointed with that
put me off Zelda forever
Crash Bandicoot is a series of platform video games published by Activision after first being developed by Naughty Dog and published by Sony Computer Entertainment. Initially created by Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin, the series was developed for its first four years by the video game company Naughty Dog. Since then, the series has been given to numerous developers. The series spans 18 games as of 2010. The games are mostly set on the fictitious Wumpa Islands, an archipelago situated to the south of Australia, although other locations are common. The main games in the series are largely pla...
I haven't played it. was that a N64 game?
Jez
Jez
i remember the N64 for Mario + idem Kart 64
09:43
Mario Kart 64 was pure awesum.
Mario64 was amazing
Jez
Jez
pretty piss easy compared to SMK though
Goldeneye was great fun too
Jez
Jez
Goldeneye was meh. The N64 wasnt powerful enough to run it
Everything Rareware was good.
In fact most of my N64 games are from Rare.
I even have Blast Corps.
That was like what, the second N64 game ever made?
It was fcking hard.
09:51
That took me back!
How many years? 45?
@DavidWallace Is it Matt?
no, just something like 15 or 16
15.9?
I remember playing wave race with a friend for about 24 hours, trying to get all the best times
@Gigili No.
10:02
@DavidWallace Me?
@MeysamѬſ道 No.
@DavidWallace Biglibigli?
Jez
Jez
why is it that when a quote ends in eg. a period, we don't put a period after the quote to keep the sentence parsing correctly?
could it be that human language is not completely logical?
Orthography is 99% tradition. How many traditions can you name that are not nonsensical?
Jez
Jez
10:15
With tradition, our brains have all the sense of the Teletubbies shouting, "again! again again again!!!"
@DavidWallace Cerberus?
DW?
Me?
Oh, Reg?
Vit?
All of the above?
None?
Look, all I was doing was countering Reg's argument that he was using the Internet in 1970. The Internet existed then, but Reg didn't.
@Jez well that's the traditions' whole point, innit. To do stuff the way it was done a thousand years ago, for reasons that might have made sense in their day and time, but obviously no longer apply, by definition, or else we wouldn't need the tradition card in the first place, but go with the Nike card and just do it.
@DavidWallace I never said I used the Internet in 1970.
@DavidWallace Umm, hum? Okay.
Who is 32 anyway?
Though I do remember the time before Google. Or NN.
10:27
56 mins ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
I absolutely do remember browsing images on the Internet in 1970.
55 mins ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
I knew you would say that.
Let me introduce you to a wonderful new site.
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt", usually conveyed through irony or understatement. Most authorities distinguish sarcasm from irony; however, others argue that sarcasm may or often does involve irony or employs ambivalence. Origin of the term The word comes from the Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmos) which is taken from the word σαρκάζειν meaning "to tear flesh, gnash the teeth, speak bitterly". It is first recorded in English in 1579, in an annotation to The Shepheardes Calender: October: Usage Dictionary.com describes the use of sarcas...
and it always comes across so well in electronic media.
Well who told you to use a PC to browse this chat. Use a brick or a piece of wood.
Jez
Jez
My piece of wood gives me quite good latency, actually.
11:01
is this question too localised?
2
Q: Are "rode" and "rowed" pronounced the same?

Anthony FaullIs there an English accent which would distinguish these two sentences? He rode from the bridge to the pier. He rowed from the bridge to the pier.

i'm stuggling to see what problem it solves
worst esters hires test... What is the worst esters?
It's the esters who is not good really.
@MattЭллен Maybe he/she is doing some kind of study on sentences that can be interpreted in more than one way.
Something like the whole The male kiwi eats roots, shoots and leaves business. But with things that sound the same, rather than focussing on punctuation.
@DavidWallace perhaps. That would be interesting.
Maybe you can find a "Hee Road", somewhere in the world, that goes from a pier to a bridge.
11:13
:D that would be the icing on the cake!
There's a Hee Road in Hawaii, but it just goes to the beach.
Actually, that would work just fine, since "He rode to the beach" and "He rowed to the beach" both make sense too.
Very true
Also, any person's name
He rode down Hee Road then He rowed.
He rode Herod?
also, row is verb meaning argue, so there are times when "rowed along the river" doesn't sound like "rode along the river"
11:26
@MattЭллен Yeah, but it's clear the OP meant the sort of rowing you do with oars, not what you do by sticking your oar in.
heh, nice :)
Damn! I wish people wouldn't post answers that I feel compelled to downvote. It costs real reputation points.
it does sting a little, but it makes SE a better place
This guy tried to support his point, by posting a link to a Wikipedia page that actually refuted his point. Duh!
You got to give a little, take a little, let your poor heart break a little.
11:31
@DavidWallace lol internet arguments FTW
@RegDwightѬſ道 that's the glory of EL&U
user19161
Boo!
user19161
Oh dear, Carlo has been suspended.
7 hours ago, by David Wallace
I'm going to miss Carlo.
In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm Syndrome.G. Dwayne Fuselier, “Placing the Stockholm Syndrome in Perspective,” FBI Law...
@Vitaly Keep that up, and I shall have to use the fifth Russian expression that I know.
11:46
hi @JasperLoy!
Huh, "to cool down".
@RegDwightѬſ道 haha! and when I call him on it, he writes "Maybe Wikipedia is wrong". Double duh!
12:05
Luckily, I don't write down everything that pops into my mind.
@Gigili pity!
Errands. Laters!
Bye!
TTFN dude!
12:20
@Reg Thanks for the reprieve from the overly enthusiastic ELL.
Good morning!
hiya @Kit!
Also, later, alligators!
12:35
@Vitaly Hey, I was reading an article in The New Yorker this morning, where they talked about a Russian stove called a pech (I'm writing from memory, so that might not be the word), which is/was a multi-purpose appliance. In the article, the author states that the family would load up the stove with a cord of wood in the morning and let it burn all day. Now, a cord is a lot of wood: "cord 3 a measure of cut wood, usually 128 cubic feet (3.62 cu m)."
The stove would have to be gigantic even to house such an amount of wood. Did the famous fact-checking apparatus of The New Yorker fail-boat this term?
Is there a picture of one cord of wood compared to a human somewhere?
Thank you, YouTube.
That's really too much, yes.
It's hard to see in the video, but the the depth is deceiving. From front to back it's about 25% longer than the man is tall.
It would seem profligate to burn that much wood at one time. Not to mention that it would deforest the planet in short order to provide so much wood on a daily basis to so many families.
12:44
That's about the amount that would be used?
I've lived in a house with a genuine Russian stove once, and the amount of wood I highlighted in the picture was enough to keep the house warm all night.
Is there a Russian term for that amount of wood, something that might have been mistranslated as cord?
The stove might have been more efficient than in the 19th century, but still not enough to cover for that huge difference between the highlighted amount and the whole cord.
No idea.
@Vitaly I second that, albeit with Dutch weather.
I think we use less. We have only wood stoves in the cottage.
In a proper wood-burning stove, a few of those pieces of wood would warm a room all night.
12:47
I suppose it would be different with a large, draughty house and -40 °C.
Let's say a hut made of twigs with an opening in the roof for lack of chimney.
Yeah, but I can't imagine burning that much wood in a day. Your house would have to be Versailles.
Or an open tent.
A giant open tent in ugly colours.
I can't imagine putting a cord of wood into a Russian stove.
An adult human can fit in the stove, but not a cord.
Does it have to go in all at once?
> In the article, the author states that the family would load up the stove with a cord of wood in the morning and let it burn all day
12:50
Ah I see.
Odd.
But then if it's winter and you are allowed to add some wood during the day, then perhaps half a cord could easily be used up.
Right.

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