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Mahnax

20:00

@Cerberus Aha, well: reuters.com/article/2012/03/30/…

KitFox

@RegDwightѬſ道 It's not to catch them, so much as to prevent them squashing people below.

Mahnax

Apple has sort of agreed to boost workplace quality.

KitFox

@DavidWallace No, but empty.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@KitFox How nice of them.

Vitaly

@Reg, play 2 Blood Grunts and switch to Auto in mid-battle to get 45 points almost every time. Don't forget to turn Auto off for the next battle. (Case in point: 445/0 10/0)

RegDwight Ѭſ道

20:00

I've heard of dozens of suicides, but exactly zero passersby getting squashed.

David Wallace

@KitFox We Westerners have a cultural taboo against reusing anything that's been in a zone designated for rubbish.

KitFox

@RegDwightѬſ道 because of the nets

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@KitFox the stone is working!

KitFox

@DavidWallace You're a Westerner? Where do we draw that line?

OK, must run. Later.

Gigili

Bye.

Mahnax

20:03

Bye.

David Wallace

I'm west of you, @KitFox!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Vitaly that is some crazy bug, then. Because I always play two or more Grunts first.

Vitaly

@RegDwightѬſ道 the switching to Auto when you have 2 Grunts played does the job.

You don't get 45 points (as often?) on Manual.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I understand. But why?

Especially given how if you go Auto from the start, you actually get less points.

Cerberus

@KitFox Don't you think suicides are bad publicity?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

20:05

@Cerberus look at their numbers.

The suicides are now even paying off in hard cash for the shareholders.

Cerberus

Huh?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

They announced they'd be paying dividends.

For the first time in decades.

Cerberus

And? Workers hold shares?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

You must have misparsed my sentence. Try again.

Cerberus

I only came up with that because I saw no other way for suicides to be profitable for Foxconn.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

20:08

Workers unsuicidal, nobody cares about Apple. Workers start killing themselves, shareholders get cash.

Cerberus

I mean, if there are fewer shareholders, the remaining ones will get more dividend.

Why cash?

I don't get it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Well you can choose to get your dividend in iPods I guess.

All the better for them.

Cerberus

I think you are withholding a crucial step in your reasoning from me that prevents me from understanding.

As I see it, suicides are bad for Foxconn's image and efficiency, so less profit.

The current reforms being a case in point.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

God you really try hard to ruin every last bit of every joke, sarcastic, or unfunny remark you come across!

Cerberus

Sorry, I totally don't get your joke, then. I didn't even notice that you were making one, or where.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

20:11

@Cerberus That's the exact opposite of what I actually meant, but yeah, you got me absolutely right.

Cerberus

complete confusion

RegDwight Ѭſ道

No suicides -> nobody buys Apple products; no dividends. Suicides -> everyone buys Apple products, lots of monies for shareholders.

And now you gotta excuse me, I'm out of spelling outs for today.

Cerberus

Righttt...I appreciate your attempt.

Meysam

Hi @DavidWallace

David Wallace

Hey @Meysam. You've got a lot older since I saw you last.

Meysam

20:24

@DavidWallace Yup! I've been under a lot of pressure lately

I even got a little bald

Gigili

@Cerberus You misspelled "right".

Cerberus

No, no, it was spelled as intended.

David Wallace

hyankov.wordpress.com/2008/09

Cerberus

While I am all for protocol, I do not identify with it.

Meysam

@DavidWallace Is Kerberos something like OAuth?

Mahnax

20:31

@Meysam Kerberos = Cerberus in Greek.

Gigili

He looks nice in that picture.

Cerberus

Thanks.

Meysam

Every dog with three heads is called kerberos?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus it's a joke about coincidence

the share prices went up after the suicides. Correlation == causation

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Oh, I didn't know there was a sudden rise in share prices.

Nor a sudden rise in suicides.

Those were the missing links, then.

Robusto

20:41

Who keeps summoning me in the context of Poland?

Cerberus

What?

Not I.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto Otto Von Bismarck

Robusto

1 hour ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Mahnax stop quoting @Robusto. Or continue quoting him in exchange for royalties.

Yet another German confection.

Think how many potentates and cities have given their names to foodstuffs: Bismarck, Napoleon, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Wien, Linz, etc., etc.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yeah, several suicides at Foxxcon

Cerberus

@MattЭллен More than usual?

I thought there had been suicides for decades.

Matt Эллен

20:45

@Cerberus I guess. there was a lot of press surrounding the suicides, so certainly more high profile than normal

Cerberus

Hmm.

Robusto

Mar 2 '11 at 13:47, by Robusto

I will say this about ABBA, though. They are the best band out of Sweden whose name is a palindrome.

Matt Эллен

the initial one was regarding an employee who misplaced an iPhone before it got released, so the press got hold of it before they should have (was he pushed?)

@Robusto and the best band from Sweden who sues me for every one thing I do

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Stole?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus possibly

Cerberus

20:47

OK.

Matt Эллен

Foxconn employee commits suicide over lost iPhone prototype

Foxconn suicides

The Foxconn suicides occurred between January and November 2010, when eighteen Foxconn is a major manufacturer catering to companies such as Apple, Dell, HP, Motorola, Nintendo, Sony and Nokia. The suicides prompted 20 Chinese universities to compile a report on Foxconn, which they decried as a labour camp. Other experts have claimed that employees are treated comparatively well at Foxconn, but news reports have been critical. Long working hours, and a lack of working relationships have all been cited as potential causes. The suicide rate at Foxconn during the suicide spate remained lower...

this is why you should never drink

RegDwight Ѭſ道

"between January and November 2010, when eighteen Foxconn is a major manufacturer catering to companies"???

What kind of template is that, that swallows two and a half sentences?

Oh I see. Not a template. <ref>s

@MattЭллен what exactly was he arrested for?

Matt Эллен

21:03

@RegDwightѬſ道 on suspicion of being drunk in public

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yes. Let me rephrase. Why exactly was he arrested for being drunk in public?

I am drunk in public all the time. It's not even a suspicion.

Matt Эллен

because that's illegal in Sacramento, I suppose.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

A city with an idiot name must have idiot rules I suppose.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightѬſ道 you hide your disorderly behaviour

in the UK it's illegal to be drunk and disorderly, maybe the paper missed that bit of info out

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Wikipedia makes me feel so powerful. "Editing Foxconn suicides".

Matt Эллен

21:07

(0_0) the things you could make into truth!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Apple no good, Windows mo betta lol peas out.

Matt Эллен

lol peas

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Wait, you said you didn't drink?

Which I didn't believe, but anyway.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I never said such nonsense.

David Wallace

Does anyone know what Microsoft have done with the "Draw Opaque" option that used to be in Paint? I can't find it in the Windows 7 version, and I need it.

Matt Эллен

21:20

what does it do? is it different to drawing a shape with a fill that's not transparent?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I haven't used Paint in ages.

I think @Vit is the Paint pro in this room.

David Wallace

You can switch on and off having the background come with you when you copy and paste stuff. I want to switch it off.

Matt Эллен

oh! that. I remember that in original paint

RegDwight Ѭſ道

0

Q: Word that means 'any unnamed phenomenon or concept'

What is a word that means 'any unnamed phenomenon or concept'? Is it really referred whit the one letter word 'X'?

single-word-requests

Was ist das?

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace the select button has a drop down that allows you to turn "transparent selection" on and off.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

21:23

How about anything? Anything at all? Zombo.com?

Matt Эллен

thing

it's been invented forever

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Well, arguably a thing is different from a phenomenon or concept.

Matt Эллен

arguably, but not in a winnable fashion

RegDwight Ѭſ道

*Any*thing, on the other hand...

Gigili

Space please.

Matt Эллен

21:24

phenomena are things that...

concepts are things that...

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Gigili nah, not space please. Proper parsing of my formatting, please.

David Wallace

@MattЭллен Thank you, you're a lifesaver. That's exactly what I sought.

Matt Эллен

you're welcome :)

Gigili

No, he's David Wallace.

Matt Эллен

I think I'd know if he were David Walla- oh, so it is!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

21:27

As long as he's not Marcia.

David Wallace

@RegDwightѬſ道 Damn, my secret identity has been revealed.

Cerberus

@DavidWallace Quid? Quis revelavit naturam tuam?

David Wallace

@Cerberus Marcia sum.

Cerberus

Quae est Marcia?

Matt Эллен

how do you solve a problem like Marcia?

Mahnax

21:43

According to the thingy over there, I'm not even here.

Oh, never mind.

Bye!

Matt Эллен

you're on my thingy over there

oh

now you're not

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus

21:59

@RegDwightѬſ道 Ehm ahah.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Vitaly very strange indeed. I have tried this four times now, for 45, 40, 45, and 45 points. Makes no sense to me, but so be it.

And now for something completely different.

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Q: Why does "orange" rhyme with (almost) nothing in English?

commented: That depends on who you ask. Even I wouldn't accept purple and people as rhymes, and I'm more liberal than most I know.

You can now link to individual comments, and they will get inlined in chat.

8

Matt Эллен

oooo! sexy

David Wallace

@MattЭллен Stop pinging me please

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8

A: Add chat oneboxing support for comment links

Done and done (including some last-minute fixes for some different url constructions)

Matt Эллен

22:16

I am calling this right here a night.

Gigili

Good night.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

CU

I suppose I will be leaving rather soon as well.

Matt Эллен

just saw this

3

rillee gawn

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I liked the litotes part best.

Mahnax

22:39

10

A: Add chat oneboxing support for comment links

commented: FYI, it works for me (question and answer comments): chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/922854#922854

Ayup!

Cerberus

@MattЭллен I like!

Mahnax

10 mins ago, by Mahnax

10

A: Add chat oneboxing support for comment links

commented: FYI, it works for me (question and answer comments): chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/922854#922854

Yep, it works.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

23:03

Well I'm off to da land of da dreams.

CU tomorrow.

Mahnax

Bye!

Gigili

Night.

Mahnax

Work time, I'm out too.

flies away

Gigili

Bye!

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