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12:47 AM
@Cerberus They do that there. It's sad.
> This series wearies theories, dearies.
I'm musing how that first schwa of theoretical [ˌθi.jəˈɹɛ.tɪ.kəl] disappears in theory [ˈθi.ɹi].
 
@tchrist : Hmm, you know, this is probably silly but I can't make sense of what that sentence should be taken to mean. Can weary used in a tropic sense? Granted, if it was "This series' theories wearies dearies", I could make sense of that, so I think the source of confusion regards how weariness applies to the object 'theory'.
 
@Tonepoet Yours is better.
> I could go on for many more pages in a systematic dissection of this recent work but, it will only weary the reader.
> The bloated, flabby, obfuscatory writing has wearied readers for two decades.
 
1:04 AM
@tchrist I take that to mean that as it is written, it's just literary nonsense meant to emphasize the rhyme. Oh well... Also, thanks for the reply.
 
Nonsense verse is a form of nonsense literature usually employing strong prosodic elements like rhythm and rhyme. It is whimsical and humorous in tone and employs some of the techniques of nonsense literature. Limericks are probably the best known form of nonsense verse, although they tend nowadays to be used for bawdy or straightforwardly humorous, rather than nonsensical, effect. Among writers in English noted for nonsense verse are Edward Lear, Lewis Carroll, Mervyn Peake, Sukumar Ray, Edward Gorey, Colin West, Dr. Seuss, and Spike Milligan. The Martian Poets and Ivor Cutler are considered by...
 
@tchrist I vote to close that Wikipedia article as a duplicate:
Literary nonsense (or nonsense literature) is a broad categorization of literature that balances elements that make sense with some that do not, with the effect of subverting language conventions or logical reasoning. Even though the most well-known form of literary nonsense is nonsense verse, the genre is present in many forms of literature. The effect of nonsense is often caused by an excess of meaning, rather than a lack of it. Its humor is derived from its nonsensical nature, rather than wit or the "joke" of a punchline. == History == Literary nonsense, as recognized since the ninete...
Oh wait, Wikipedia isn't Stack Exchange! =P
 
 
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10:14 AM
How does this sound to you? "The two numbers differ only in the second decimal place"
 
 
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11:56 AM
Sounds ok, if you mean the second decimal place digit.
3.1415
3.1215
Depending on context; there could be other interpretations.
 
 
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2:22 PM
Pi = 22/7
 
2:35 PM
~ 22/7
 
3:10 PM
! 22/7
 
3:38 PM
I'm reading a junior novel, Gulliver. I could not understand following sentence though.

Original: "The Liliputians are so small, I had to walk very carefully, so as not to step on anyone."

The original sentence has "as" around the end of it. What's difference if I wrote like this:

"The Liliputians are so small, I had to walk very carefully, so not to step on anyone."
 
3:49 PM
@popopome your version is unnatural, if not wrong
The way the author phrased it was the 'standard' way to say "I had to walk carefully so I wouldn't step on anyone"
 
4:01 PM
@M.A.R. Thanks for the comments. I'm learning English. Still I could not accurately
understand the use of "as" in there. :P
 
Sure
I'm learning English too
 
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4:57 PM
@Tonepoet By the way, what's the highest level rank/belt there in judo? Is it brown or black? And what about dan levels?
 
user288256
Just curious.
 
@Ghalib Black
 
@Ghalib Just because I took a judo class doesn't mean I became any good at it, or know much about it. However, the highest belt is black, and there are ten degrees of blackbelt. If I recall correctly, the seventh degree of "black belt" actually has a red and white belt, with the colors arranged in horizontal stripes, since that's what the head instructor wore. That's all I know about the matter of ranks.
 
user288256
I see, neat.
 
user288256
Yeah I know. I was just asking.
 
user288256
5:05 PM
Judo is great but not for a real life encounter (I think) because you can't always grapple a person in real life. Judo is basically grappling and throwing etc.
 
Oh, and there was a brown belt rank too.
 
user288256
Yeah, I knew about this brown belt thing. Is that highest too in some places?
 
I don't think so. I think it's an additional rank between other belts.
 
user288256
In real life "boxing" or something as efficient as "krav maga" works, because you have to strike first, strike fast and strike repeatedly (which is ugly but works).
 
user288256
I see
 
5:11 PM
@Ghalib The only thing I know about krav maga is that it was featured on an episode of The Simpsons once.
 
user288256
Heh okay.
 
5:22 PM
@Ghalib I heard that the original belt colors went from white to brown to black with levels in between simply by the process of dipping the belt into the same dye, white at first, one dip is yellowish, 2 is light brown, 3 is brown and so on until it becomes black.
 
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@Mitch Hah. Yeah makes sense.
 
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Q: What if you were a scientist and you secretly made a discovery? who would you tell?

user50190What if you were an aspiring scientist and you secretly made a discovery which can help the nation very much. The discovery has to do with chemicals. You are the only one who knows this secret, and it is a secret which can be shown and proven. But, you have been warned in a dream, if you share it...

 
5:50 PM
@M.A.R. Should be migrated to workplace.SE or interpersonal.SE
 
@Mitch or Worldbuilding.
Nothing is off-topic on WB
 
or food.SE
It had me at "warned in a dream"
 
6:14 PM
Ugh. There's a recent recession here and a big part of industries are dysfunctional
So as usual, the only thing officials do is to encourage using Iran-made products on TV
And you get commercials about Iranian products you know are really crappy but we should buy them out of a sense of patriotism and supporting national industries
No matter how crappy they are
And some of them are really cheaply made
 
I seem to have at least one of Harold Lamb's books.
Well, their translations
"Tamerlane the world's conqueuer" or whatever
Sounds like a nice book
I know so little about that time
Pre-Islam history of Iran, I'm a God of.
But the medieval era is like a gap in my mind. I don't know anything
 
6:35 PM
Sorry to interrupt.. is semantics the real meaning behind all words and expressions? or is it pragmatics?
 
@marcellothearcane Semantics is the meaning you get from the elements present in the utterance
As opposed to pragmatics, which is what you get from the surroundings, the context.
 
@M.A.R. so the semantics of a simile for example is the actual meaning? like, in 'fat as a pig' the semantics is 'very fat'?
 
@marcellothearcane those things have both semantic and pragmatic sides IIRC
@marcellothearcane okay
 
@M.A.R. thanks, I think I'm getting out of my depth! - don't want to mislead anyone...
 
To be frank, this guy looks like someone trying to make us do their albeit odd homework
 
6:45 PM
@M.A.R. When studying Semantic meaning - yeah, I reckon!
 
I.e. they can both be semantical and pragmatical
 
@M.A.R. I'll check it out, thanks!
 
7:04 PM
Wait, hmm, I think I got the wrong article
@Marcello everything in your answer is correct as far as I can tell
So is the first comment
But the second comment gets weird
 
@M.A.R. :S
@M.A.R. how exactly?
 
They were asking a pointless question though in their comment
 
I think I was trying to answer about 3 things at once...
Note to self: multiple comments!
 
It's like "I didn't understand your answer and I don't want to and I want you to know it"
@marcellothearcane yeah, pretty dangerous on language sites
@marcellothearcane well, embedded is both kinda pragmatical and semantical
(Now one of those adjectives doesn't exist but I can't be bothered to check)
It doesn't bear any meaningful . . . meaning
 
@M.A.R. Okay. I wasn't too sure what 'embedded meaning' actually was...
 
7:14 PM
Something can have meaning embedded into it, and it can have meaning embedded into the context around it
 
@M.A.R. got the gist :P
@M.A.R. ...right. So like a poem would have meaning embedded in it, but a deictic conversation would have meaning embedded in the context?
or something..
 
@marcellothearcane no, I mean the word "embedded" doesn't add anything to it
 
oh, okay.
 
Either an invention of the author of the textbook of that guy, or an invention of that guy himself
 
they have both?
 
7:19 PM
But hey, I guess you answered it best
 
@M.A.R. lol..
 
It'd either get no other activity, or get mod-hammered by Tchrist as a dupe of something
 
or both
 
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Q: Commutative, or "semantically palindromic" sentences

icurays1Being a mathematician with mathematician friends, my friends and I occasionally like to joke about the peculiarities of the English language. This one came up recently: Obviously, most English sentences and phrases cannot be read backwards and forwards and maintain the same meaning. For insta...

 
@M.A.R. that's why I love stackexchange...
 
7:33 PM
@marcellothearcane Have you checked wikipedia for both of those first? If you have no idea at first, wikipedia is really great for giving an intro. Then afterwards you will be able to ask intelligently for confusing overlap between them.
 
@Mitch No, I hadn't actually (as you can tell). thanks for the tip :)
 
Also (now noting the question in question) the OP should check there too. But then the OP may still have a reasonable question about how a simile fits in.
Semantics isn't just word meanings (that is the sub-study called 'lexical semantics')
 
Confusing @Mitch with the overlap between overlapping things
 
Semantics includes a lot of logic, plus how different syntax contributes to differences in meaning.
 
For example my leg on my other leg
@Mitch yeah, that stuff is always sickening
 
7:38 PM
@M.A.R. That is confusing. I mean, which leg is it?
 
@Mitch one of my legs on my other leg
Hint: the one not on top is on the bottom
 
If we have to amputate you better specify, otherwise both will have to come off
 
No you got the wrong guy
 
looks for other guy
 
slowly backing off
 
7:43 PM
Hey!
Where is this other guy?
 
He went that way!
Points as a poisonous lake
 
@M.A.R. that escalated quickly...
 
@marcellothearcane don't worry, Mitch is poison-resistant
That'd just distract him a bit so I'd be able to run away
 
What?
 
while you still have two legs
 
7:49 PM
@Mitch you should be in a poisonous lake right now
You'd miss the other guy!
Make haste
 
Here, I'm in a lake. Take some of this water. It might relieve your head of its itch
 
@Mitch wait what? why's my hair dying?
 
I don't know. You should ask that other guy.
The one with one leg over the other leg.
 
which guy? that one over there? or this one over here?
 
8:02 PM
@Mitch are you insulting my legacy?
Haha you can't make a worse pun than that.
 
quietly dies
not sure if that's from the poison or the pun - probably both...
 
8:44 PM
What is the verb that means to get somebody's gender wrong?
I find that missex seems like it should be mrssex.
Very confusing.
 
8:57 PM
I just heard someone on the radio say lahst to mean lost not last.
Truly we are the lahst generation.
 
9:39 PM
@tchrist Did you check a thesaurus? =P
I've seen misgender used to mean something like that at any rate.
 
10:06 PM
@Tonepoet I find dinosaurs hard to sex.
 
@tchrist The only response I can think of for that is in far too poor of a taste to actually write here, so I'll leave it to your imagination to guess at what it might be, which is probably even worse but still...
 
missex, mrsex, mrssex, misssex
missussex
Too snaky.
 
 
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11:33 PM
 
Everybody left and I'm the only one left.
 

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