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16:00
I think the nun will.
Nuns are overrated
Overratings are nunny
Good evening
Shab behair
My Shab can't be hair
Usually they romanize that with a "kh", not an "h"
With a leak like that I'd suppose so!
@M.A.R. that's funny because I'm not Roman
16:06
Norman?
Viking?
Bad TV signal?
Not enough coffee
I never get enough coffee
Ok, business idea - you know how soylent is for people who don't want to waste time cooking?
Not that much of a tea guy either
16:09
(Just say yes)
Argh
Partially
Anyway...
16:09
I can see a package of Joylent from where I'm sat
You know how they have nicotine patches and even caffeine patches?
sounds blasphemous, but I'm listening
Make nutrient and vitamin patches
There. That's it
It's like they sell themselves
I don't think you can absorb vitamins though the skin, can you?
They're virtually leaping off future shelves already
16:11
otherwise I'd try it out. soylent is too much effort for not enough enjoyment
steaks are better than soylent
@MattE.Эллен I don't see why not. It depends on how they're delivered. But that's not really relevant. You seem to be assuming that cosmetic/health products do what it says on the bottle.
You don't even have to waste your precious time swallowing liquids.
I'll never forget the time I saw an add for a "DNA repair cream" and that is in fact completely impossible.
Oh wed make a 'steak' patch
@terdon maybe it was CRiSPR cream
16:13
@terdon Au contraire mon ami
Easy crispr bake oven!
I want to make a doughnut joke, but I can't, so you'll have to think of your own
What is it with CRiSPR? How come that's become so famous?
I don't know. I heard about it in new scientist a couple of years ago, but yeah, it's become a hot topic recently. something to do with designer babies
Just 3D print your block chain supported crispr driven quantum minecraft simulator and you'll get it right away
@terdon Fancy bio blabber about the hot topic of DNA. Why wouldn't it be?
16:14
Why not PCR?
You gotta find out why restriction enzymes aren't so famous.
Or those.
It's just weird. I keep seeing crispr mentioned everywhere.
Crispr
CRISPR is meant to be cheap, fast and accurate. some sort of wunderkind
Crispier
16:15
crispier than thou
Crunchy.
@MattE.Эллен It is. It's just odd that that particular technique has gotten so much press. Why not next generation sequencing? That's at least as important. Or PCR which is far more important. Dunno. Just odd is all.
also it's easier to remember than PCR or the other one
CRISPR was used to make a blind person see, I think. that might be what triggered it
People tend to over look ULU (universal love and understanding)
isn't that a type of glue?
16:17
Probably just fell out of style
UHU is glue
Uluru is a big rock in Australia
Me, who is glue?
I asked you who is glue
...
Ellipsis can't be glue
Exactly
I refuse to answer on the grounds that all the other school kids will laugh at me for falling for this blatant attempt at glue shaming
Ok. You're glue
glue should stick to what it knows
16:22
shamed
Wait..what if glue knows a lot?
Aren't there rules that cover that?
If glue knows a lot, it would know better than to stick things together
Because once it does that, it becomes useless
And starts questioning the meaning of life.
That would not end up well
It would become a terrorist?
Or just nihilistic?
nihilunstuck
@MattE.Эллен The nunchucks of annihilation?
16:35
hidden in a secret Tibetan monastery for centuries, wielded by the Shaolin of the apocalypse
17:03
@Cerberus @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 @MattE.Эллен I've posted a meta question regarding the matter:
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Q: Is this question about Boners too simple for E.L.U. or not, and if it is, should it be migrated to E.L.L?

TonepoetWe were just having a little debate about the question What does it mean to give someone boners? in chat, and it strikes me as a rather borderline case. The matter under consideration was whether or not enough research had been conducted, and how obvious that research is too obvious for considera...

I'm also going to go to E.L.L. chat and show it to them to see what they think.
@Tonepoet Good question.
My issue was with "unclear what you're asking", though.
@Cerberus It has been reopened with my edit, so that's no longer a matter under consideration though.
Also, it seems to me as if we were debating both gen. ref. and unclear simultaneously.
17:48

 Contact

For playing the game Contact, where one person tries to "defend"...
fun word game
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Q: An emerging pattern of "research" close votes

M.A.R.Recently, and by recently, I mean during the past month or so, we've had an emerging pattern of voting to close questions because they lacked research. More precisely, questions used to be closed with this reason only for lacking context: This question should include more details than have ...

Maybe would also link to our discussion here
But meh
18:03
@M.A.R. Can you get me a more popular link showing that E.L.L. is frustrated with our tendency to migrate too much? Maybe something with 10 or more votes? I'd include a post like that in the body of my question., but right now it doesn't seem to be representative of what E.L.L. thinks overall.
@Tone what I'm implying is, when we get five different dictionaries telling us what a boner means by typing "boner meaning" into people's favorite search engine, we would close a question on ELL that ends in "What does boner mean?"
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Q: A friendly reminder: ELL is not EL&U's trash can

snailplaneWe've been getting a lot of migrations to ELL lately. That's actually fine by me – I think a lot of them are okay on ELL, even if they're not suitable for EL&U. The two sites have different standards, and that's okay. But we've also been getting migrations like this: When someone wanna tal...

@M.A.R. I meant from the E.L.L. E.L.U meta posts don't quite represent E.L.L. either.
@Tonepoet Snailplane is a moderator on ELL. Would you have expected a complaint about faulty migrations on ELL meta? O.o
@M.A.R. Good point regarding modship.
@M.A.R. Also, I'm perfectly well aware of that. I'm just saying that in order to do that, you need to know that the word boner is the one to isolate. If we suppose you're looking for a search term and the entry is under B, and you're looking under G under the assumption that you're looking for a phrasal verb like "give boner" instead of just the word "boner" then the research effort will be futile no matter how many times you look.
18:20
@Tonepoet Surely everyone looks up "boner" before "give boner"
and if not, being told "your question is too basic, look up boner" in a close reason is the right answer
18:33
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 touché
I mean...
I didn't mean that
Frankly I'm surprised it took this long for the jokes to start
haha
'give boner' hur hur hur
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You're welcome
... and we are still discussing boner
that's nothing. one time, every starred message on the star wall was about penises.
well, I bought up the discussion really
18:38
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because it took this long for Mitch to return to chat
@LeakyNun It keeps getting bigger and bigger
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 good times
literally
@Mitch What happened to Rome?
@M.A.R. I represent that remark
#NotAMalapropism
for a giggle, do a search for "penises" in the chat history. then read all those messages without context. Then read them with context. It's no better.
@M.A.R. That's how good it was! Had to be rebuilt from scratch
Happy days are here again. The time is right for makin' friends
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Message to the future
Everything I write here is intended as one-liner inputs to a chatbot creator
Even that
Even that
But not that
I have my limits
18:44
[chatbot] But not that I have my limits
all I found was:
8 mins ago, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
that's nothing. one time, every starred message on the star wall was about penises.
@MattE.Эллен [Chatbot 2] So what do you really think of your mother?
Mar 27 '12 at 19:09, by user19161
Now the whole transcript is full of penises.
Also, I am not a chatbot
By saying that I am not confirming or denying that I'm a chatbot
Mar 27 '12 at 19:40, by JSBᾶngs
the surest way to get on the starred message list is to mention penises
@Mitch [chatbot] I should call my mother
18:45
or confirming or denying the possibility that I'm a chatbot
Mar 28 '12 at 9:48, by Robusto
Geezis, I leave here for 8 hours and the room fills up with penises.
Just 3 of the starred messages from that penisy day
@MattE.Эллен and my job is done here. Talk to you soon, son!
@Mitch [chatbot] son iguales
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What everyone does is something that will be more accurately determined by the answers on meta and the votes accumulated on them, than anything either of us might suppose, hence the meta-question.
@MattE.Эллен We must put an end to this stress and strife
18:49
gonads and strife?
I think I want to live the sporting life
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 bubbles and squeak
the new bubble bath for English kids. eat your dinner!
Am I going to automate a script that will take the first search result from your last word and posts that? hmmmm
@MattE.Эллен Yes, yes I do believe you consternation ...
wait, where is the murdered truck stop prostitute?
Good point friendo. I suck at parsing sometimes, so at first I thought it was something like "(truck) stop prostitute" or "truck (stop prostitute)" which doesn't make sense of course. Yeah a hyphen will help.
18:52
Left: calling bushtit. Right: calling bullshit. (via @Ibycter , @callin_bull) https://t.co/8heGbLjWwZ
lol. that's a funny looking birb
There's no rule about people outside of fight club talking about it.
@Tonepoet Sure, but: ('Cause you can't chat while asleep, you know, unless you're me.)
17 hours ago, by Færd
@Cerberus OK. So let's say you're normally awake in the gray areas and sleep sometime during the white areas.
@MattE.Эллен "WTH is that"
18:56
@M.A.R. looks like some sort of finch, but I don't know :D
@Mitch Thanks Mitch! What's the occasion?
There we go. Sherbet
Oh. Sweet!
We don't call that sherbet though.
Do you?
@Færd Sure, but...
I call it ice cream
Or maybe a digital picture
Or a link
Or a onebox
Man my vocab is extensive
18:58
I call it mphlurgmpmh
@Mitch Is that German?
@M.A.R. It may not comprise any dairy products.
Gesundheit
@Færd mashed potatoes then?
Or potato juice.
18:59
A rumor has it that it's getting late
Nah, probably only early afternoon in the US
Unless you mean too late to eat breakfast
Clams on the half shell and roller skates
@M.A.R. Whoa dude. Any time is the best time for breakfast
Chocolate chip pancakes for dinner? Hell yeah!
What else would I expect from TV signal noise?
but a ham and cheese sandwich for breakfast seems weird
Or is it a DVD?
19:02
They still use DVDs? I thought those were discontinued in the early 2020's
@Mitch You insensitive first world clods
We still use pine trees to brush our teeth here.
@M.A.R. Pfft. Outlawed in 2039 (under United Nations Health Protocols) because it was found that it made some people's teeth more equal than others'
@Mitch they replaced CDs as the cheapest drinks coasters in early 2021 and have been mass produced for bars and restaurants ever since
@MattE.Эллен Wow. they finally caught up with the early 1990's
AOL amirite!
and Compuserve
19:07
Of all the things I'm glad I'm not today, being in a British doctor's waiting room is one of them.
Also British doctor
What's happening in British doctors' waiting rooms?
We haven't got the plague again, have we?
also goes without saying 3 yr old child of pregnant mother waiting to get a coal mining job in West Virginia
dang it, I said it.
Nov 22 '15 at 22:58, by Cerberus
@Mitch I think that's the penis-shaped border between India and Bngladesh.
You insensitive clod! It goes without saying, my mother was killed by stating the obvious
@MattE.Эллен Worse. some NHS software has been ransomwared
19:09
LOL "Bngladesh"
@Mitch what? well f---
I haven't read the details because that just ruins the suspense
@MattE.Эллен "Holy shit that bus is gonna...!"
You silly fool, you can't change your fate
@Mitch That bus is gonna be on-time?
19:11
In one Bond movie there was a riddle about a five-letter word, something you cannot take with you but that you sit on. The answer was chair but I thought it was penis.
@M.A.R. I remember once visiting Switzerland (or was it Germany? no insult intended...yet) and watching buses slowdown considerably before they reach the stop...
in order to be exactly on time according to schedule
@MattE.Эллен Do you know what happened to Kit? I have not heard from her for a very long time.
@Mitch We're talking about watchmakers. I'm not surprised.
@JasonBourne She's fine, AFAIK. probably just busy with life
@JasonBourne "L'essential est invisible pour les yeux."
pretty obvious if you ask me
19:14
OK, that's pretty effing impressive. I am astonished.
Merely.
@MattE.Эллен pfft life
Slightly.
gets in the way of havin fun
Only very slightly.
@Mitch all the time
19:14
@M.A.R. OK it was Germany
I don't know if it's a reconstructed memory or not, ut I feel like I remember some Swiss people cleaning up all the leaves in a forest.
True reconstructed memory
OK that was a lie.
@Mitch I actually remember something like it
@MattE.Эллен I see. I really miss talking to her. I know she reads my emails though, even though she doesn't say anything.
Damn automated neat Europeans
I made up that reconstructed memory because I thought it would be funny. And I bet somebody there tries to do some small part to clean up that ol' messy nature.
@M.A.R. You just remember me saying it
True false reconstructed memory
19:20
@M.A.R. Neatness is OK. It's just presumptuous to think nature would want that too.
@MattE.Эллен There is drowning and boat chases and hugging the dead girl in many Bond movies, re our previous comment, lol.
Maybe it does. I'm just sayin'
@Mitch IKR, what do bacteria get to eat?
@JasonBourne ew
Murderers.
19:21
goldfinger?
@JasonBourne wait...didn't Vesper Lynd and Bond get married in Craig #1? Or just love?
@M.A.R. I read recently (and this is a faithful recalling of that whether it is in fact true or not)...
@Mitch I don't think they got married. There was no ceremony. Maybe I am totally wrong.
that bacteria evolved to metabolize cellulose (or is it ceullulite) and that's why there is a carboniferous period where lots of ancient forests turned into coal, but..
...but once the bacteria evolved to do that metabloization, no more coal (from the Permian onwards).
Does that sound plausible?
@JasonBourne You would know better having seen it much more recently
Plosion, implosion, explosion, interesting.
@Mitch Not really, my mind is very messed up, and one day I might even get hallucinations.
'Is there such a thing as "inverse unrequited love" '
@Mitch they didn't get married, she betrayed him because her husband was being held by the bad guys /spoiler-alert
19:25
@JasonBourne suffers from insomnia.
I know it because movies said so.
OK we need to create penisbros.stackexchange.com for all the dating advice thinly veiled as academic word mongering
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, I don't know but maybe that was her boyfriend too and not her husband.
Treadstone ruined your life.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and then Bond accidentally shoots her in the face
Just like in Hamlet
@Mitch I think Parenting, Workplace, Academia has the worst questions. All questions there are answered subjectively and not objectively. I feel that it's just bad advice given there, with the occasional good one thrown in.
19:27
@M.A.R. Before treadstone he was going out with ... uh oh.. almost gave it all away
@Mitch It must be Maria, LOL.
@JasonBourne But those sites are almost inherently culture bound and opinionated. I think there's a place for it (as long as multiple PoV are given)
How do you solve a problem like Treadstone?
@JasonBourne Close.
@Mitch Yeah, I just thought SE was completely you know, cite your sources, etc.
19:29
@MattE.Эллен How do you keep a wave from crashing on the beach, tracking you down, shotgunning you in the face and then driving your car backwards off the top floor of a parking deck?
I am very sad because recently, my mental problems got worse, after it got very well, so this is very painful. I would like some words of comfort and encouragement, please.
@JasonBourne yeah in principle. I'm just giving my opinion that sometimes all there is is opinion.
@JasonBourne It's not your fault.
2
Really.
The pets SE is completely bite your horses, etc.
You still have to try, but it's not your fault.
it's just like an infection or an inherited disease. no one chooses these things.
19:31
@Mitch I totally forgot about that, but that was a very good thing to say.
@JasonBourne It's like when you get a cold even. You feel bad, wondering what you could have done to prevent it. I mean, you shouldn't go around licking bus windows (that apparently is a thing)
@Mitch Do people lick windows?
I cannot understand why Trump fired FBI director. This looks very bad and I think he should be impeached now.
It's like how people talk about cancer (pardon anybody if this is a bother). They say "cancer survivor" and "lost the battle with cancer" as though you personally were responsible for the outcome (I know it is not intended that way, but it is one consequence of the metaphor)
19:36
@Mitch A word that comes to mind now is determinism.
so that makes you feel even that much worse "I'm not winning this fight -and- it's my fault!"
And it just isn't (well sure, now we know that smoking isn't a good idea, but that's not a fair counterargument).
@Mitch What is the atmosphere like in America? Are there calls to impeach Trump?
@JasonBourne yes, that does come up here. but that's a bit more philsophicl. I'm just addressing how people think bad of themselves for being sick, and it's just not the case that it's their fault. Unless of course you see someone sneeze over their soup and you ask to have some.
because extra flavor.
@JasonBourne haha. I have to sit back to address that. one moment...
ahhh... nice.
wait... adjusts 'things'
better
@Mitch It is also absurd that recently, America granted asylum to a joker, shan't mention who, when he is not even being tortured.
Short answer: "I can't tell"
19:41
@Mitch I see. You are from the super secret org that can't tell the secrets...
Oh wait.. yeah I see some people in the news reporting other people saying 'impeach' or on twitter.
but twitter is a funhouse mirror of nonreality already.
even when the tweets are from respectable people (very few on Twitter)
@JasonBourne haha no it's just hard to know what everybody is thinking
to have a good idea of what the trend really is.
@JasonBourne ?? I dont know about this.
@Mitch The person granted asylum is from Antarctica. I think if America grants a joker asylum so easily, I should be given citizenship immediately...
@JasonBourne if only. I think if you have $500k you can get fast-tracked
america isn't that great
@Mitch Antarctica is much worse, hence...
it's pretty good. But their forests aren't as clean as the Swiss's
@JasonBourne Does antarctica have monsoons (or a super heavy rainy season)?
I'm sure I've asked this before.
19:45
@Mitch I still wanna go to grad school and work in academia there, eventually.
@Mitch There are rainy seasons, but it can rain at any time on any day, and I don't care about these seasons.
@Mitch If I can solve the Riemann hypothesis, certainly any university in the world will hire me. =) But I don't think that will happen. =)
May 23 '12 at 22:40, by Cerberus
I think I asked you before.
@JasonBourne Do all the penguins carry around umbrellas with them just in case?
@Mitch Many penguins are armed with umbrellas. But not all, not even most.
@JasonBourne unlike the English or Japanese where to go out without umbrella is a sign of a lack of sense or enjoyment of drizzle which is mostly the same thing.
@JasonBourne academia is similar every where (in the sense that real life out of academia is way different everywhere but all schools are kind of alike
some slight differences in details but mostly the same
@Mitch The math department I studied at was terrible.
@JasonBourne I don't think that's a sign of anything.
To be frank, RH doesn't really catch my attention.
19:55
The courses totally lacked breadth and depth, and I would only pay ten per cent of the fees I paid for tuition.
I feel like asking them for a refund now...
It does catch my attention when someone shows that RH is equivlaent to let's say some problem within the Collatz conjecture.
Because I can relate to that.
I can't relate to RH.
It's like saying "Do you like peppermint?"
It's not only a millennium problem but also on the list of Hilbert's 23 problems, and 23 is my favourite number.
There's no accounting for taste, especially those crazy people who like peppermint.
@JasonBourne are here any other of the 23 that are left?
@Mitch I think many, but they don't get as much press coverage as the 7.
@JasonBourne some dude about 17 years ago (Smale?) was asked to make up a new list.
Nobody cares now
right, the 7 are a big deal because money
and because becausing nouns verbing
19:59
I think I will go eat something now. Didn't expect Rathony to delete his account on ELU.
@JasonBourne not a terrible loss. too ...
...stirring up things?
there's a word for that.
@Mitch No, not all of them. However an umbrella is as much as a part of the customary regalia for the King of the Penguins, as a scepter is for any king of men:
@Tonepoet haha I almost posted the youtube for that.
But I didn't
Not a pretty picture.
I think more of the happy feet characters or the Penguins of Madagascar characters with zebra striped Umbrellas
OK...4pm Friday..time to start the weeks work...
later
@Mitch At 4pm like partying Mitchy? Because... or do you start your work in the evening?
@Mitch I love Penguins of Madagascar.
Or loved. I don't watch them anymore.
I meant "liked".
@Tonepoet Fair enough. Thanks for the reply.
20:30
@Tonepoet Who is that in the picture? Is that you?
There is a song that goes like this Eat, sleep, rave, repeat. Eat, sleep, rave, repeat. Eat, sleep, rave, repeat...
@JasonBourne That's Danny DeVito playing The Penguin in Batman Returns, which is the first sequel to that other Batman movie I mentioned to you.
@JasonBourne Danny's most famous for his role as Louie Depalma in the late 70s sitcom, Taxi, where he plays the role of a greedy dispatcher who's second in command. The actual manager of the company isn't seen on-screen to my recollection.
@Tonepoet I like old movies, and it seems you watched many old movies as well.
@JasonBourne Television shows, more-so than movies actually.
@Tonepoet Is that even written as more-so?
20:39
@JasonBourne It is there. =P
@Tonepoet I noticed that you write many words differently from me, but I can't recall the list now.
@JasonBourne I hadn't noticed honestly. I do recollect that you try to model your English after the British though, so that might be part of why. Another reason is that I model myself after older forms of Am. English, so Doughnut rather than Donut.
Hello @Robusto I hope you are having a good time.
mmmm doughnuts
Anisakis larvae range in length from 5 to 20 millimeters (about a fifth of an inch to about an eighth of an inch). You know, I see misinformation like this all the time. Does it never occur to anyone to check their math?
20:45
@Tonepoet I use a mixture or AmE and BrE when it comes to spellings.
Can't help it.
They thought they were doing the math and then translated "0.8 inches" into "an eighth of an inch" ...
@JasonBourne How not?
Gotta go, Windows wants to install updates.
@MattE.Эллен Are you still taking Greek lessons?
not at the moment. I might in autumn
@englishstudent Maybe you can help yourself by reading The Elementary Spelling Book by Noah Webster. It was the gold standard of American spelling for well over a hundred years, and sold approximately 100 million copies! It's one of the best selling books in U.S. history.
Merriam-Webster hasn't updated their blog for Unabridged for over a year. Does this mean they are rushing out a new edition?
20:52
@JasonBourne I think it's more likely that they've given up. I don't even see their unabridged dictionary in new bookstores when I check the dictionaries section.
@Tonepoet Well, the online subscription still exists.
@JasonBourne Yes, that's put together piecemeal though, so the concept of editions doesn't really apply to it I don't think.
@Tonepoet Also, bookstores contain only a small fraction of books. Only Amazon contains many, many books!
@Tonepoet Nice link, gracias. But I like BrE spellings too, so I will have to decide.
@Tonepoet When I emailed them about new editions of the printed Collegiate and Unabridged, there was no reply. I hope they did not think I was being sarcastic, because I asked a genuine question.
20:56
@JasonBourne I doubt it, or in clearer terms, I doubt they detected any hint of irony in your e-mail.
@Tonepoet It's strange that MW Collegiate has the word longanimity in printed form but not ODE in printed form. I wonder how ODE chooses words for inclusion. It really isn't that great, pronunciation missing aside.
@Tonepoet I sometimes write things in strange ways so it is not surprising people misunderstand me. I think it's because my mind works in strange ways, ways I don't even understand.

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