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Sha Vuklia

18:00

I love physics more than math

Jason Bourne

I only studied math long ago. I gave up on physics.

Sha Vuklia

but I love physics so much, that I want to understand the math behind it :P

Jason Bourne

But advanced physics is mostly advanced math.

Sha Vuklia

haha true!

funny to see you here :P

Jason Bourne

In fact, most advanced math came from physics, lol.

Sha Vuklia

18:00

sorry I haven't pinged waiting yet, but I'll do that asa i see her

Jason Bourne

Maybe she did not accidentally do that, but purposely, who knows? =)

Sha Vuklia

what really? i thought it was the other way around

Jason Bourne

Maybe I pissed her off...

Sha Vuklia

hahaha, i hope not :P

i thought parts of math were invented first, and then physicists were like; hey we could use that

Jason Bourne

The mathematical concepts were invented to formulate the physics!

Sha Vuklia

18:02

LOL

don't tell that to a mathematician :P

Jason Bourne

After that, the math had a life of its own.

Sha Vuklia

yea but there's also been math that wasn't used in physics

Jason Bourne

And that's how physics give rise to math, and math gives rise to more physics.

Sha Vuklia

and physicists "discovered" its use only much later on

at last, that's what i was told some time ago

haha yea, i do agree with that

they're like a marriage

Jason Bourne

In the same way, life imitates art, and art imitates life.

Sha Vuklia

18:04

well obviously

think of newton's third law :P

it makes sense that interactions come in pairs, i think

even if they're a bit more abstract

Jason Bourne

Newton was sitting under the apple tree. But I don't eat apples. I prefer bananas, lol.

Sha Vuklia

hahah:P

anyhow, see ya later!

Mitch

18:29

@JasonBourne art imitates art over and over and over

@JasonBourne And Siddartha was sitting under the Bodhi tree

what fruit does the Bodhi tree have?

Jason Bourne

@Mitch Phew, not the apple tree.

Mitch

dead leaves

writes Zen Koan incorporating dead leaves

no enlightenment attained, from stingy publisher no profit either

lettuce is just dead leaves

grape leaves are just dead leaves

to make them palatable you have to wrap then round stuff, but strangely you you call the leaves themselves stuffed.

Jason Bourne

Sounds deep.

@Mitch Anyway my mum did go to lots of temples today and brought back a lot of free food. =)

Færd

19:16

@Cerberus I mistakenly said sedimentary instead of sedentary, and you used sedentary in your response. I took it as some kind of indirect error correction.

Mitch

@JasonBourne excellent. what's your favorite Vesak food (that she brought back)?

@Færd that's a very sedulous observation

Færd

20:05

@Mitch You sound so seductive!

(Sorry, I don't know very many sed- words.)

Mitch

@Færd I just came up with one that I really can't ever remember what it means

tchrist

@Færd Which ones would you like? OED has a 151 of them.

Færd

@Mitch Delighted to hear that.

@tchrist You just have too many words.

Onelook gives 200.

Albeit some of them are expressions, not words.

I put my foot in my mouth. It actually gives 1734 of them.

tchrist

20:31

Does it have seˌdecimarˈticulate?

Or sedilia or sedoheptulose?

Is the adjective ˈsedal still there?

What about sederunt-day?

Færd

@tchrist All but the first and the last are thee.

Are we still talking in English now?

tchrist

We're talking headwords in the OED.

Presumably those are in English.

Færd

I suppose so.

Some of them have no records in COCA or COHA.

Which makes them a special kind of English.

tchrist

Here are some of the aliens and the dead:

> † ˈsedal [adj.]
† seˈdan’d [pa. pple.] ← sedan
† seˈdanful ← sedan
† ˈsedant [adj.]
† sedany [n.]
† seˈdating [vbl. n.] ← seˈdate
† sede [n.]
† seˈdecuple [n.]
‖ se defendendo [n.]
† sedeful [adj.]
‖ sedekah [n.]
‖ Seder [n.]
† sederunt-day ← sederunt
‖ sedes [n. pl.] ← ‖ ˈsedes [n.]
‖ ˈsedes [n.]
† sedge [n.2]
† sedge-boat ← sedge
† sedge-hill ← sedge
† sedge reek ← sedge
† sedge-rug ← sedge
† sedge-worm ← sedge
‖ sedile [n.]
‖ sedilia [n. pl.] ← ‖ sedile [n.]
‖ sedimen [n.]
† seˈditiary [n.]

Færd

And there are those who read OED from start to finish.

From cover to cover ... to cover to cover.

Not all of those are aliens or dead.

Mitch

21:06

@tchrist where is seductress?

Wondering out of curiosity

Maybe with Neil Sedekeh

Jason Bourne

@Mitch Red bean ice cream.

tchrist

@Mitch Neither alien nor sepulchred.

Jason Bourne

Alien: Covenant is showing in the cinemas now.

Tonepoet

21:54

Eh, that doesn't have a d in it.

tchrist

tchrist@mac: oed sed | tail -1
 × sedyr → cedar

Cerberus

22:29

@Færd Oh, huh!

That was certainly not intentional!

I don't think I realised you had used sedimentary, I just read it as a logical word in context without noticing.

I was certainly trying to correct you; it may have been some subconscious thing.

Mitch

23:25

@JasonBourne That sounds like everyday ice cream (in Antarctica). Is it special for Vesak day?

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