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15:06
That book is how I learned that vagina rhymes with Carolina.
lol
all the more reason to ban it
rhyming is the devils work
Also, that sexual relations is a lot like jumping rope: it's fun, but you get really tired, so you can't do it all the time.
ah. most enlightening
I think the jumping rope analogy is a good way to explain sex to kids.
Not confusing at all.
what irks me most about religious so-called education is that they can't even bother to be consistent. if you are going to indoctrinate children with some religious rubbish, why don't you also teach one of the original Ancient Near East cosmogonies:
but no, they'll cherry-pick their BS
15:12
@Vitaly Because that's not my religious rubbish? That belongs to someone else.
well, that's like asking why don't you believe all the disproved hypotheses? I mean they were there first!
really? isn't that what the Book of Genesis describes?
I have no idea. It's still not mine.
yeah well if, ceteris paribus, humans were consistent there wouldn't have been any religion in the first place
Hmm.
I disagree.
15:19
Elaborate
Hold on. I have to get my strop.
So let's see.
sharpens razor
Vitaly, the book of Genesis is not pursuing the goal of fully presenting an account of creation of the world. It has a totally a different purpose. The book of Job, in my opinion, says way more about the creation.
First let's define consistency.
Hey, hey! I'm just getting warmed up here!
Well, if you are going to chime in, I suppose I shall get more coffee.
@KitFox Heh, I'd not heard of this before! All I'd known is in BrE "get a strop on", "have a strop", "in a strop" or "throw a strop" all indicate someone is in a bad mood, probably having a tantrum.
@Vitaly I don't remember "heaven of heavens" mentioned anywhere in the book of Genesis. As far as I can recall, Ephesians mentions that. Also, pillars of the earth is absolutely not one of the concepts found in Genesis.
15:28
@MattЭллен Really? I've never heard of those. I was being literal. Well, figuratively literal.
I don't actually have a strop in my office.
Although, I can guarantee you that if I were a man, I would shave with a straight razor. Because that is bad-ass.
Come to think of it, if I were a man, I would probably scare the hell out of most women.
@KitFox it is indeed.
Hmm. Interesting. That seems to have caused a glimmer of sexual interest. makes notes
@brilliant if you get to claim that the Book of Genesis is allegorical, I get to claim that any other part of the Bible is allegorical, and so Yahweh is an allegory for a tree standing on the bank of the Tigris
@Vitaly What a lovely allegory. Thanks for that thought.
@Vitaly I don't claim it to be allegorical. In fact, I tend to take it more literally than allegorically - except for those places where the allegory is inevitable - for example, Jesus' parables. Yahweh is never used in the Bible as an allegory.
15:35
> No creatio ex nihilo here. God does what other deities of the time are reported as doing - he divides what already exists into sky and land, and God's spirit flutters like a bird over it. Then the magical words are spoken - "let there be light!" and God creates (bara, which I am given to understand means, etymologically, to cut or slash) a division between light and dark.
@brilliant So you believe that God created the Earth in seven days? Well, six really.
So you are not saying that Yahweh's dividing the light and dark is allegorical?
awesome, I step away from the keyboard and when I come back it's creationism again!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah, but a new one! This one might know something.
I'd have done it in four, but then gone back a month or so later and added in the bit I missed because I was in a rush
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15:36
A friend of mine asked "What are you giving up for lent?" And I replied "Religion"
@MattЭллен Did you see Eddie Izzard's bit on it?
@KitFox probably, but it was a while ago! what was his bit?
I think this is it.
> On the first day he created light and air and fish and jam and soup, potatoes and haircuts and arguments and small things and rabbits and people with noses and jam...more jam perhaps, and soot and flies and tobogoning and showers and toasters and Grandmothers...and, urm...Belgium.
lol, yeah, this is good :D
@KitFox Yes, I do. Except, those may not be the days that are equal in time to one turn of the Earth around its axis - remember that the moon and the sun was not there yet when the light was created and there was "evening and morning" of the first day.
15:39
@brilliant Hmm, yes, I see.
why take days at all? If you're omnipotent why not just do it in an instant, all at once?
@Vitaly Of course not.
@brilliant sorry, but in Ancient Hebrew those are literal days, which you can check in an interlinear Ancient Hebrew Bible even if you don't speak Ancient Hebrew
Oop. It was this one:
I'll never understand this religion stuff
15:41
@MattЭллен Because it is a lot of work, and he was figuring it out as he went along.
so, again, if you interpret those quite literal “days” as allegories, I get to interpret Yahweh as a tree
@KitFox ah yes, like the best of us
Speaking of figuring things out, I should probably pay attention to this user request.
and I should probably get back to themeing
Maybe when I come back, I can have a more fun discussion with Vit.
15:43
theming?
themming?
Hrm. Not sure.
The me ing?
The Ming?
oh well, it's a neologism anyway
Entheming.
yes! I shall get back to The Ming!
When did I interpret "days" as allegory? Just as I just said: the sun and the moon were not there yet. Therefore, it is correct to say that the concept of those days is different from the concept of the days we have today. Yahweh, however, is said to be in the Bible existing eternally.
15:44
gets popcorn
rubs hands together
grabs popcorn from MrShiny
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Your turn.
sits next to MrShiny Vit on the comfy couch
@Vitaly Hey don't be grabby, I made enough for everyone
15:46
ahem So he's made the very good point that measuring a literal day would be different if you didn't have a sun yet.
@KitFox It would, in fact, be meaningless
Right, but you might say "day" to get as close as you could to expressing that concept.
@Vitaly I think you are confusing the concept of "allegory" with the concept of "different meaning" - these are two different things. You see if I go to see a doctor because I am not feeling well, he may still not be a doctor of, say, philosophy, however, in either case the word "doctor" is not used allegorically.
what about The Doctor? Is he an allegorical doctor?
@brilliant OK. So you are saying that those who have written the Bible would have said that now, if they were somehow transported forward in time to the present moment and occupied your physical body?
15:50
@MattЭллен shh
pulls Matt down onto comfy couch
Sit and listen.
sits down and bes quiet
stifles giggles
@Vitaly I don't quite understand what you mean here. Those who wrote the Bible were people in their own physical bodies living in their own time after the world had been created. I don't quite get your point.
@KitFox That's right.
@brilliant He is intimating that you are interpreting the text in a modern day context, I think.
taps foot
Well, this is disappointing.
yeah this flame-war sucks
16:04
If Vitaly can treat god as an allegory for a tree, I can treat him as an allegory for that time I stubbed my toe on the way up the stairs. <- how's that for a flame?
So I was about to argue a different point with @Vit, but I can't remember now.
@MattЭллен He's totally like Max from Pi.
Except I don't like flaming Vit. It's not much fun. I'd much rather argue with him.
@KitFox I think you were going to argue about how consistency in humanity would still produce religion?
Meh. I think I'll go and read some book or something. AFK.
I love it when he makes me look like a fool.
@Vitaly awww :(
16:06
@MattЭллен Oh that was it!
Damn it.
luvs ya really @Vit
Now who will I argue with?
@KitFox you misspelled “I love it when I make him look like a fool”
@Vitaly Flatterer. You know I never win when I go toe-to-toe with you.
Children. Listen. You can't just say God was a tree. For you were created in His image, and you are not trees.
16:08
I find it refreshing.
See, that has sent brilliant off.
This is how you do it.
@RegDwightѬſ道 but if we don't know what trees think, maybe they think they look like us!
If I were a tree, I would be a larch, because it is the only deciduous conifer.
And that is so like me.
If you were a deciduous conifer, you'd go OMG does it suck to be a tree.
Fuck those bitches who say shit like "a mighty oak" or "a bendy willow" or "is cannabis a tree?"
Larch are cool.
16:12
stop all that larching about!
Thus spoke the Larchbishop of Canterbury.
I'd probably a bush that everyone confuses for a tree
or vice versa
Hmm...
Sumac.
Sumac ( or ; also spelled sumach) is any one of approximately 250 species of flowering plants in the genus Rhus and related genera, in the family Anacardiaceae. Sumacs grow in subtropical and temperate regions throughout the world, especially in Africa and North America. Sumacs are shrubs and small trees that can reach a height of . The leaves are spirally arranged; they are usually pinnately compound, though some species have trifoliate or simple leaves. The flowers are in dense panicles or spikes long, each flower very small, greenish, creamy white or red, with five petals. The fruit...
That suits you.
it's odd that the excerpt misses out the height. i would have thought that would be plain text
16:18
Feb 25 '11 at 11:53, by RegDwight
"It is currently estimated to be up to deep. The trench is about long but has a mean width of only."
Feb 25 '11 at 11:53, by RegDwight
Feb 7 at 15:17, by RegDwight
The Mariana Trench is the deepest part of the world's oceans, and the lowest elevation of the surface of the Earth's crust. It is currently estimated to be up to deep. It is located in the western Pacific Ocean, to the east of the Mariana Islands. The trench is about long but has a mean width of only . It reaches a maximum-known depth of about at the Vityaz-1 Deep and about at the Challenger Deep, a small slot-shaped valley in its floor, at its southern end. If Mount Everest, the highest mountain on Earth at , were set in the deepest part of the Mariana Trench, there would be of ...
Must be because of the en-dash?
It's a template.
I guess so
I see.
I like all the funny words in the article
16:19
So what kind of tree would you be, @Reg?
A treebuchet.
I wrote a story once where the trees were animate and the animals were inanimate (like plants)
@RegDwightѬſ道 Hehe. A man after mine own heart.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 How confusing. Did the trees eat the animals?
@KitFox No, not exactly.
It was a sort of romeo-and-juliette story about two kinds of trees that were on opposite sides of the forests-vs-grasslands wars
Wow. Shakespearean to boot.
16:24
To grass or not to grass.
But not many trees in the grasslands?
Well, I'm sure Shakespeare would have been rolling over in his grave if he'd known of the branch-to-branch combat scenes.
@KitFox not many, but non-zero
snurkel
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Q: What's the character encoding used?

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wholly frock!
16:29
@RegDwightѬſ道 because i'm cool and also a linguist, i recognized those characters without ever having to click through to the answer
Pfft. Everyone can recognize Thai.
@RegDwightѬſ道 not the OP
Haha wait, the answer actually says just that, Thai?
Lulz.
Right. I was going to learn how to make pho. I completely forgot.
16:31
And look, I'm neither cool nor a linguist.
So @JSB, if you were a kind of tree, what kind of tree would you be?
@KitFox you should get right on that. it's delicious
I actually thought it would be more complicated than that. Like an actual encoding that turns normal characters into Thai.
I made a yummy peanut ginger dish yesterday.
You have that with Russian all the time.
16:32
Stir-fried vegetables and tofu.
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Then I realized that it was essentially my spicy peanut curry recipe.
Except without the curry and coconut milk.
@KitFox i'm considering my answer...
i think i'm gonna go with Sitka Spruce
Why do we have to consider being trees?
Picea sitchensis, the Sitka Spruce, is a large coniferous evergreen tree growing up to 80 m tall, and with a trunk diameter of up to 5 m, exceptionally to 6–7 m diameter . It is by far the largest species of spruce; the fifth largest conifer in the world (behind Giant Sequoia, Coast Redwood, Kauri and Western Red Cedar); and the third tallest conifer species (after Coast Redwood and Coast Douglas-fir). The Sitka Spruce is one of only five species documented to reach 300 feet in height. It acquires its name from the community of Sitka, Alaska. The Carmanah Giant, towers 95 metres (315 ft) ...
16:33
hey so I'm allergic to peanuts, but I discovered soy butter, which is supposedly indistinguishable from peanut butter. What should I do with it? besides put it on bread
@RegDwightѬſ道 because god is a tree and he made us in his image
were you not following, earlier?
@MattЭллен God is a JPEG.
@JSBᾶngs Oh pretty! I have seen the wood, but not the tree.
Very versatile and highly prized.
@RegDwightѬſ道 which is why humans have so many artefacts
@RegDwightѬſ道 heresy. the Holy Fathers state that God is a PNG
16:35
@MattЭллен An artifact is still a fact.
@JSBᾶngs the Holy Fathers are just envious. God is omnipotent. He can be a PBM if he so chooses.
giggles
pfft. God is an animated Gif, and that's that.
You can be anything at zombo.com. Anything at all!
giggles harder
joins in the giggling
16:37
God can be a PB&J if he wants.
Peter, Baptist & Jesus
a holy law firm?
You're thinking of Peter, Paul, and Mary.
Hey, my son was reading words all over the place a couple of days ago.
16:41
@KitFox ace!
Makes me feel like an awesome parent.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Rofl.
Is that God?
I'm not sure if my search for God is over
Slinky!
!! perpetual motion!
@MattЭллен Hey you know the government has perpetual motion machines, right?
My mom's boyfriend was telling me about how he saw them on YouTube.
16:44
I did not. that explains why fuel prices are so high
snicker
You know, I was wondering today why we don't handle petroleum like a public utility.
hmmm
because that's socialist!
next thing you'll be telling me is that we should share and share alike!
I mean, it's a good idea
I was just thinking that I don't want to pay $5 a gallon for gas this summer because "speculation is high."
I might start rioting.
Or working from home.
I think i pay something like £1.13 per litre at the moment
Ugh. Conversions.
16:47
this is why I cycle to work
hmmm
Well, it's 8 miles and there's no shoulder.
Plus, no bikes on the interstate.
So it would be more like 12 miles.
And I work 4 10s, so that would really suck.
Maybe I could bike to the bus station though.
ah, yeah, we have the "no bikes on the motorway law" but it's more encompassing "no vehicle with an engine size less than 50cc on the motorway"
That's about two miles with no shoulder.
plus rule 64 of the highway code "bicycles must not be ridden on pavements"
so it's road all the way for me
Yes, we shouldn't bike on the sidewalk either.
16:49
but bicycles can be ridden on dual carriage ways
it's a scary though
but it is legal
Do you not have the term "shoulder" there? The wide part of the road where cars can pull off?
oh! yeah, we have that
Some places even have bike lanes.
it is a shoulder
I was just being retarded
Oh.
16:50
Shoulder stay or shoulder go?
But you've caught up now?
0.219969157 gallons in a litre
@KitFox yeah :D
£5.13 per gallon
That's over 9000 hogs to a head.
Holy crap!
How is that possible?
$8.04 per gallon
16:52
Ain't that still like 1/4 of the price you pay in Germany?
I guess you have a smaller, more manageable country.
it's European pricing
I'm paying $1.28/L right now
@KitFox true
It's nearly impossible to not use petro around here.
We are so rural and dispersed.
At least in my state.
16:54
aye
When gas got to $3 a gallon, people started talking about working from home more because it wasn't practical to pay so much to go to work.
But there aren't many other options.
My boss carpools 45 minutes one way.
That's in Euro Cent per liter.
for some reason diesel is more expensive than unleaded here
16:55
@MattЭллен That's true here as well.
@RegDwightѬſ道 jeez
Well, more expensive than regular.
I think it is cheaper than super plus.
you know what's funny? In Toronto, EVERY SINGLE GAS STATION has the exact same price.
They even announce tomorrow's price on the radio the day before.
that's surprising
That doesn't surprise me.
16:57
@MrShinyandNew安宇 They have that for books in Germany.
And yet: the gas companies haven't been investigated for collusion!
I wish it were like that here. although price fixing ftl
@MattЭллен Well, like a utility, right?
no more hunting for the cheapest price
@KitFox right :D
Germany used to have price fixing for everything, like tooth brushes and soap.
16:58
I do work for a petroleum company, so I used to know when the price changes were going to occur.
But that was like fifty years ago. Nowadays it's mostly just books.
So I could fill my tank.
The price is ridiculously volatile.
That's something we ought to be protesting, right along with the "rich people suck" stuff.
Speculators are making everyone suffer.
And suffer badly.
They should be dragged out into the street and shot.
@KitFox is that like the futures markets?
@MattЭллен Yes.
17:00
I feel rather strongly about it.
@KitFox That's fixing the symptom, not the malady. Other people will eagerly fill their spots.
In the northeast, most people burn oil for home heat. Every year, we have people who freeze to death because they can't afford to heat their homes.
Well, OK, most people actually use wood stoves.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Even if they get shot for it?
Sure.
Look at the history. People got decapitated a zillion times. Did that teach anybody to be nice?
see all you dissenters later!
Right! I must be running, too!
Over and out.
17:03
Bye!
17:18
Sweet! I just found a 20 dollar bill in my bag!
17:31
@KitFox It's mine... I must have lost it when I borrowed your bag
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Q: What does "sales play" mean?

Lior KoganI've seen the phrase "sales play" on IBM site (see link). What does it mean?

18:10
might be fighting a losing battle here:
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Q: What part of the FAQ does this question violate?

mplungjanIn the next two weeks or next two weeks

user19161
@MattЭллен I was OK with the question so did not vote to close it.
Nor did I, but I see Reg's point.
user19161
@MattЭллен But I think I will vote to reopen it. The question is specific enough for it not to be considered proofreading.
user19161
18:34
They should have a way to turn this site blue instead of red. I prefer blue. :-)
you can do it!
you just need to apply your own style sheet
firefox lets you do that right?
I haven't tried, but I think you can
Hail!
user19161
Boo!
How fare ye?
Hmm what would be the 2nd person plural of fare to go with plural you?
18:40
fareth? I have no idea :D
I'm pretty good. dinner will be ready soon. How fareth you?
user19161
I had some Indian tosai just now before watching Slumdog Millionaire.
@MattЭллен Hmm that goes with thou...
I should look it up but I'm too lazy.
how fareth thou?
18:46
Ack, I mean, that goes with he. I'm stupid. Thou goest with farest.
user19161
@MattЭллен What food?
Or something on -st.
@JasperLoy food is what ones eats
@Cerberus I see. what goes with you?
@JasperLoy steak pie and vegetables
I don't know!
user19161
@MattЭллен Your answer is neither grammatical nor logical.
18:47
and I just had some garlic bread
Yay!
user19161
@MattЭллен Goes well with soup.
user19161
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Q: What's the difference between simulation and emulation

crucified soulI frequently encounter two terms Simulation and Emulation. They seem synonymous to me. Is there any difference between them?

user19161
Closed! But I agree it is general reference.
@JasperLoy Then why are you bringing it up?
user19161
18:52
@simchona Just for fun.
user19161
Also a bit surprised that Reg closed it instantaneously.
So what is the difference?
@MattЭллен I am craving garlic.
I'm having some on my salad.
I would use these words in different contexts, but it's hard to pin down.,
You ought to be able to parse them based on their roots.
user19161
18:56
@Cerberus That's why I was a bit surprised.
@KitFox yummy
Oh? Do they even need parsing?
Mmmm, red pepper humus. Delicious.
@JasperLoy Yeah, well, you know.
user19161
You emulate something good and simulate something real.
18:57
Sort of.
But software often emulates something else, like hardware.
Which is not necessarily good.
Emulation means to pretend to be something else, neh?
Whereas simulation is a model of something?
Or am I confused?
Emulation can also be a model of something else.
They don't seem remotely synonymous to me.
They do to me.
Oh, yummy artichoke hearts.
user19161
18:59
There is copying in both.

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