English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Færd

04:31

> I was to have done my homework yesterday.

I thought it could mean I was supposed to have finished it before yesterday.

But, apparently, it means I was supposed to do it yesterday. So it's equivalent to

> I was to do my homework yesterday.

So what is the point of the perfect infinitive in the first sentence?

Maybe they're basically the same, but the first one bears the suggestion that I didn't do my homework yesterday.

tchrist

04:53

@Mitch There is no sequence of three successive seven-digit numbers which are all prime, since one will be a multiple of two and another one of three.

Færd

05:19

You can be asked about three random things in temporal succession; ie, one immediately after another.

user227867

05:43

@Mitch Oh I went to sleep already, lol.

Anonymous

07:15

@Færd That would be the meaning if you moved done over a bit: I was to have my homework done yesterday. (Although I don't imagine this exact sentence is uttered very often.)

Anonymous

Well, maybe not before yesterday.

Tonepoet

07:36

@WillHunting How 'bout getting some blue music?

Kind of Blue

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user227867

@Tonepoet I just logged in, lol.

user227867

@Tonepoet Oxford replied, but nothing really helpful. I contacted a seller on Amazon Canada marketplace. Somehow it ships here but I wanted to confirm some details before buying cos it is really expensive, but no reply, so I am forgetting that one too. I might just get the European version of the same dictionary, the green colour version on Amazon for a huge sum, lol

Dysanix Official

11:05

@WillHunting Hey yes! I am here :-)

Alenanno

@tchrist Here?

Dysanix Official

Here!

Alenanno

@Cerberus cc @Mitch Oh, not cream! D: I often see debates of bacon vs cheek lard (not sure what it's called), but cream on carbonara is a sacrilege! :P

Færd

@snailplane I think that turns it into another construction: have in the original sentence is an auxiliary, while the one in your version is not. Cf: Where do you normally have your hair done?

Better example: I should have the car ready by Monday.

@snailplane Yes, this one doesn't mean before, as far as I can tell.

terdon

11:54

@Alenanno Yes! Exactly! Makes it horrible and just not a carbonara at all! I've only had the "real", Rome style one with the guanciale once but mmmmmmmm, cheek bacon!

user227867

12:08

Although I like carbonara, I don't know how it is made at all. =P

terdon

One of the simplest and easiest dishes out there.

There are little tricks that make a difference, but the basic idea is i) fry bacon (ideally, fry guanciale, but bacon will do); ii) mix the bacon with egg yolk (as many eggs as there will be people), a little parmesan and a little water from the pasta you're boiling; iii) pour over pasta -> enjoy

Alenanno

12:24

@terdon Yeah many Italians will battle between pancetta (bacon) and guanciale (cheek bacon) but that's not as important as NOT using cream lol

@terdon Here we do that a bit differently. :P

I mean, not sure if someone taught you that recipe, but you're not supposed to mix bacon and egg like that.

Mitch

13:02

@tchrist By successive I intended one question after another.

@Cerberus hm...look man I just eat the stuff, I don't name it.

I feel like how they sell jars of carbonara in the US is as a cream sauce.

Cerberus

@Alenanno I'm glad you shewed up!

@Mitch An important stage in the lifecycle of carbonara.

Mitch

For the record, I don't care for cream sauces...I grew up with tomato/meat sauce so white is always shocking

@WillHunting You were supposed to say that it is Wednesday.

Cerberus

Bertolli, oh, dear....

Mitch

@Alenanno I think there's cases to be made for either bacon or cheek (guanciale is the word I see), but both together would confuse the palate, an abomination.

Alenanno

@terdon No, not both together. I meant either one.

Mitch

13:11

@Cerberus How much more italian can you get than some factory in... the Netherlands?

Cerberus

Haha, is it Dutch? I wouldn't be surprised...

Just because Holland doesn't have a decent 'cuisine', it can be hard to be avoid...

Mitch

@Cerberus If you make a carbonara in the kitchen and no one eats it, does it still taste as good?

Cerberus

If it tastes good, people will eat it.

Therefore, Socrates is not a man.

If he resists it.

Mitch

@Cerberus wiki says Mr. Bertolli founded a company in Lucca, but now the brand is owned by Unilever, based in a stack of containers in the port in Rotterdam.

Cerberus

Right.

I didn't know it was actually originally Italian, I thought someone non-Italian had just invented the name in recent times.

After all, it is like the cheapest oil you can buy.

Mitch

13:17

@Alenanno I avoid the mixing by just taking noodles and sprinkling vinegar and pepper on it, maybe if I'm feeling decadent some oil. In the meantime I take the bowl of bacon (not pancetta) and eat that separately.

@Cerberus That's what I thought about Barilla, but they're still in Italy.

Tonepoet

13:46

@WillHunting You mean the one I showed you earlier on ebay that you didn't want to buy? XP

It's too late to get the $25 copy now. 'tis gone.

Alenanno

@Mitch Separately?

@Cerberus Companies delocalize all the time, I guess lol

Mitch

@Alenanno yes, separately. But that's just me. I wouldn't serve that to anybody.

Alenanno

@Cerberus Did you mean "showed up" earlier?

tchrist

@Alenanno Seldom at 4 in the morning during this season of the short sun.

looks for charred remains in the carbonara

terdon

14:03

@Alenanno You're not? Why not?

@Alenanno both?

Alenanno

@tchrist Do you want this one? linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/20363/…

tchrist

@Alenanno Sure.

Alenanno

@terdon Basically, egg must be prepared separately first (beaten? I don't remember how you say it), then you put some parsley in it and then mix parmesan until it gets less liquid.

tchrist

@Alenanno The debate about which Latinate designation to apply to this or that -ing word in any given sentence is one that to the best of my knowledge exists only in the English-speaking community.

terdon

@Alenanno Yes, that's what I do, I just also mix in the bacon. It makes it easier to pour over the pasta.

Is there any reason I shouldn't mix the bacon?

Mitch

14:07

Wait, is the egg cooked before pouring on the pasta?

Alenanno

@terdon The bacon is the last thing you mix in, usually. :D

@Mitch It's not cooked at all. You pour some eggs in a recipient, then mix them, etc.

Mitch

when does the egg get cooked?

by the hot pasta (after the egg poured on)?

tchrist

It might be that it’s a duplicate, insofar as we already have so many questions related to that matter, but that’s insufficient reason to forego migration. Even if it’s later dup-closed, it won’t count as a rejected migration.

Alenanno

Well, by that point it's basically invisible. But you don't cook it.

terdon

@Alenanno Yes. I put it in just before pouring the egg, cheese and bacon mix over the pasta. How else would you do it? More importantly, what difference can it possibly make?

Alenanno

14:08

@tchrist OK :D

Mitch

@Alenanno questionable health practices.

pasta alla salmonella

terdon

@Mitch it gets lightly cooked by the heat of the pasta and pot, yes. But not properly.

Mitch

oh...with the pasta in the cooking pot

but...

Alenanno

@Mitch No, don't you ever eat fried eggs without breaking the top?

Mitch

you've poured off al the water used to boil the pasta?

Parth Maske

14:10

Can someone tell me the past tense and the past participle of 'spit.' Is it spat or spitted?

Alenanno

@Mitch No, you keep a lot of the water and as soon as you pour it in the recipient with the eggs, you must mix immediately.

@ParthMaske spat.

Mitch

@Alenanno I thought it was scrambled eggs put on the pasta. Are you saying just break the egg shell releasing the egg over the pasta?

Parth Maske

@Alenanno Is 'spitted' not a word?

Mitch

@Alenanno OK. I'll stick to eating rather than cooking.

Alenanno

@Mitch ahah :D

Parth Maske

14:12

@Alenanno I like your name btw

tchrist

@Alenanno I believe it has at its root cause the confusion of applying Latin terms to English grammar, compounded by the fusion of two once-disparate inflections into just one in Modern English. Certainly the use of the gerundio in Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese to form adverbial phrases and progressives but not substantives largely conflicts with the Anglophonic designation of gerund.

Færd

@ParthMaske Did you check any dictionaries?

Alenanno

@ParthMaske Thanks lol

Parth Maske

I checked. Some say that 'spitted' is the past and part participle

Alenanno

@ParthMaske It should be: spit, spat, spat

terdon

14:14

@ParthMaske it is, but as far as I know it has nothing to do with spit in the sense of ejecting something from your mouth. It is the past participle of the verb spit which means impaling something, usually food, sometimes people, on a sharp stick for roasting.

Alenanno

Maybe spitted is a recent addition?

tchrist

And Catalan uses -ant/ent not -ando/endo for its “gerunds”, which more closely corresponding to the Latin present participle than it does to its gerund-ish forms.

terdon

Oddly enough, I also found some dictionaries that claim it's the past participle of spit (mouth), but all were collaborative online things.

Matt E. Эллен

@terdon as in lamb on a stick?

terdon

CTMOTD!

Matt E. Эллен

14:15

???

terdon

That's Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler, in case you missed the reference.

Matt E. Эллен

oh :D

I haven't seen that abbrv for a while

terdon

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spit

@MattE.Эллен :)

Færd

@ParthMaske You need to check dictionaries that tell you the regional differences to some extent, or check American and British dictionaries both.

terdon

The MW link I pasted above has spitted only with respect to roasting on a spit.

Parth Maske

14:17

@terdon Oh! I get it. Thanks

tchrist

What's this about mango throat warblers now?

Alenanno

@Mitch You should travel to Italy and try it here at least once in your life! :P

terdon

Yes, Italy would be worth visiting even just for the food.

That it's also pretty and historically fascinating is just an added bonus.

Alenanno

@terdon I think Firenze is a must. I haven't been to Venezia yet, sadly.

terdon

Where are you from?

tchrist

14:19

@terdon As I recall there are several verbs in English that act like strong verbs normally (vowel change for the preterite) but weak verbs (dental suffix or change) in certain cases.

Alenanno

@terdon Sardinia.

terdon

North, south?

Mitch

@terdon maybe it's like hung and hanged

terdon

@Alenanno Ah, that's hardly Italy at all! :P

Alenanno

@terdon lmao

terdon

14:19

@Mitch I guess. Which is also probably an example of what @tchrist mentioned.

Matt E. Эллен

winged and wang

terdon

@Alenanno which island is it whose dialecto is a dialect of Catalan? Was it Sardinia?

Alenanno

@terdon I guess we are very separated yes, but that has positive aspects. For one, we have a very conservative language very similar to Latin (sometimes identical). Yeah, in Alghero.

Mitch

@Alenanno I have and I have eaten there. I was not impressed with the McDonald's in Venice.

Alenanno

@Mitch lol dude.

tchrist

14:21

@Alenanno Being Sardinian, are you by chance also a native speaker of Sard or Corse or even Catalan, or “only” of Italian?

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен ying or yang

Alenanno

@tchrist Sardinian and Italian, yep!

terdon

@Alenanno Bloody hell! I just visited ciutatdelalguer.it/comune_alghero.htm and I can read it perfectly well! At first glance, it looks about 95% Catalan. Wow, I was expecting more differences.

tchrist

Hurray!!! I have occasionally had cause to check with someone who knows Sardinian first-hand.

Mitch

@Alenanno To actually talk about reality, yes, food in general was always excellent. Except...

tchrist

14:23

Alenanno

@terdon Are you from Catalonia?

@tchrist :D eheh Home <3

Mitch

except bread from a grocery store. That stuff was all stale.

Alenanno

@Mitch Ah, maybe the store wasn't good?

terdon

@Alenanno No, I'm half Greek, half American (native speaker of both) but spent 7 years living in Barcelona so I also speak Spanish and some Catalan.

Alenanno

@terdon Nice!

tchrist

14:24

I think we have two mods from the Baleares.

Alenanno

@terdon I envy you about Greek, by the way.

Færd

@terdon Aren't some people lucky.

Mitch

@Alenanno possibly. traveling is weird because you only see one thing once and you expect it to be representative. and randomness will often throw things at you that are weird for 'them'.

Or not.

Alenanno

@terdon Did you know "Una faccia, una razza"? :P

terdon

@tchrist That is fascinating. I should look into the history that built that. And the Catalan obsession with language never ceases to amaze me. I can only imagine what kind of nationalistic pressure they must have exerted to keep that tiny piece of land linguistically pure.

@Alenanno Yep :)

@Alenanno You would, you're a linguist :P

@Færd Yeah. Getting 2 languages for free is one hell of a gift.

Alenanno

14:25

@Mitch I agree with that. Visiting is a bit of a random experience sometimes.

terdon

@tchrist Two? Fedorqui and?

Alenanno

@terdon I really like its sound. I plan on learning it.

terdon

Heh, that's how I feel about Italian.

Alenanno

@terdon Feel free to ask me for any doubts!

terdon

It's really frustrating because I can get about 30% of it or so between French, Spanish and Catalan so I feel as though I should speak it.

Alenanno

14:27

Ahah I get what you mean.

Mitch

@Alenanno Any non-IndoEuropean langs that you like?

tchrist

@terdon Éste.

Færd

Italian sounds like music.

If it were a more popular language I would attempt learning it.

Mitch

There's the whistling language in Turkey. Does that count?

terdon

@tchrist Huh. Hadn't seen that one before.

Færd

14:29

@Mitch My grandpa speaks that too. In his sleep.

Mitch

@Færd haha...old people make funny noises when they sleep.

Alenanno

@Mitch Tons! Finnish, Turkish, Mandarin, Japanese, Ancient Egyptian (I'm fascinated), etc.

Mitch

@Alenanno Quecha, Guarani, Nahuatl

Alenanno

I discovered Turkish by accident once, while eavesdropping on two users in a game chat room (with microphones). The sound was very nice, I had no idea Turkish sounded like that.

Mitch

Tagalog, Walpiri, Maori

Alenanno

14:32

@Mitch I'm not interested in learning those (to speak), maybe except Maori. But I have other items in my to-do list first. :P

Mitch

Mayalayam, Khmer, Chukchi

I'm just spouting random obscure languages.

Alenanno

@Mitch Ah Malayalam! I started learning that one. It's very hard. The pronunciation at least.

Eh, you got one by coincidence that I was going to learn.

Færd

fast-forwards to a thousand years later, when people speak only a few languages

Mitch

modern media is killing so many minor languages, but is also preserving a lot of mid-level languages

Alenanno

@Færd Horrible times. I pity the fools. (P.S. if someone is reading this from the future, I was kind of joking. Much love)

Mitch

14:35

also language preservation politics.

terdon

@Alenanno Wait, what? Turkish isn't IE?

Mitch

@terdon nope. turkic. closer (as 'close' goes) to finnish/hungarian.

Alenanno

@terdon Nope :P

terdon

Well, I'll be damned!

I had no idea. I'd never thought about it before, I'd just assumed it was by default.

Mitch

@Alenanno Notice to timetravelers: let's meet last week at 7.

Færd

14:36

@Alenanno We don't speak English, sorry. (from the future)

terdon

I knew it wasn't derived from Arabic but that's as far as it went.

Færd

@Mitch That's just politics.

Alenanno

@Mitch :D "Let's meet!" - "When?" - "Doesn't matter!"

Mitch

@Færd well, it depends on the strength of the movement. Irish got reintroduced pretty successfully (they have news broadcasts). Hebrew the most successful. But Provençal is just a class at school that you forget the next semester.

Færd

@Mitch Last week with respect to whose watch?

Mitch

14:39

@Alenanno You're from the future! You'll know!

@Færd Yes.

Alenanno

@Mitch Ahah exactly.

Mitch

Now the question is, is Mongolian Turkic or Sino-Tibetan?

wiki says the vague 'altaic' which is that vague catch-all for northern asian languages from turkish to japanese.

so at worst not Sino-Tibetan.

Matt E. Эллен

alterranaic for those languages that aren't from around here

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен There's a Duolingo for Klingon

Matt E. Эллен

but not for Greek

that's an injustice

Mitch

14:45

there's not?

They have -something for greek (maybe English for Greek speakers)

Matt E. Эллен

there's plenty that teach Greek people other languages, but none for English to Greek

Færd

And none for English to Arabic. With hundreds of frigging millions of speakers.

Mitch

@Færd more politics. also typesetting problems.

except unicode. Why doesn't unicode solve all that?

Færd

There are lots of languages to learn on Duo from Arabic. Why is there no problem?

Mitch

@Færd But arabic is weird. there's MSA which no one actually speaks (maybe educated in educated circumstances?) and then all the different local colloquialisms.

Færd

14:48

Modern Standard Arabic is the official language in every Arab state, I suspect.

Mitch

@Færd There's always the advice I hear there of doing the 'reverse tree'. Once you learn a language Y, you take the course for learning your own language starting from Y

Færd

Textbooks, news, official documents, etc.

Mitch

@Færd from what I read, that is almost like learning Latin for visiting Spain.

Færd

@Mitch That's exactly what I'm doing there. I'm learning English from Arabic to learn modern Arabic.

Mitch

@Færd Oh

@Færd how hard is that?

Færd

14:50

@Mitch Yeah, it's more popular than that, but still, it's kind of obscure.

Mitch

If the duolingo scripts are done well, I 'd guess not too different from E->A.

Matt E. Эллен

efghijklmnopqrstuvwxyza

Færd

Easy actually. I was familiar with the language from an early age. I wasn't familiar with Modern Arabic, was the problem.

Mitch

@Færd how about like when Assad or Sisi give speeches? Do they speak MSA or syrian/Egyptian Arabic?

Færd

@Mitch Yeah, it recognizes different keyboards, to some extent.

Mitch

14:52

@MattE.Эллен that doesn't look like arabic at all

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch it goes from e to a

Mitch

@Færd which variety were you familiar with?

Færd

@Mitch I tend to understand those kind of speeches. Some have difficult accents though.

@Mitch Classical Arabic.

Which is basically almost the same as MSA.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен go jump in a body of hijklmno

@Færd Oh. right.

Færd

Has many obsolete words, and lacks many modern ones.

The grammar is the same.

Matt E. Эллен

14:58

@Mitch I'll have you know some hijklmno are good friends of mine

Parth Maske

Please refer #57. I think that B is correct, but the answer is C

Matt E. Эллен

ok, so duolingo do do English to Greek now

Færd

@ParthMaske Ever means always there.

Parth Maske

@Færd Ok. But, what's wrong with B

Færd

Maybe the definite article the ("who is the perfectionist").

Normally it would be a.

Is there a reference to a perfectionist before in that text?

Matt E. Эллен

15:07

the answer is C

Færd

B could work given the right context though, no?

Matt E. Эллен

"who is" would require an article, as "perfectionist" is a countable noun

Parth Maske

no, but there reference to Bates who is a perfectionist

@Færd

Mitch

@Færd a strange context, but the test specifies the context already, and it does not support B

Matt E. Эллен

@Færd oh, I missed that there is an article. yes, B is also fine

Mitch

15:08

B sounds strange.

C does not.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch it does, but it also sounds grammatical

Færd

@Mitch It looks like a scrap from a larger text.

Matt E. Эллен

like "Mitch, who is the perfectionist of the group"

Mitch

@ParthMaske at some point in taking tests like these, they get harder and harder, and they don't just ask which one is the correct one out of many that are wrong, but they ask for the better one out of many that might work.

Færd

> My teacher, who is a/the perfectionist, gave me a D.

What do you think about this one? ^ I think it's probably the same as your question.

Mitch

15:10

@MattE.Эллен but that would require 'the group' to sound right. And this doesn't include that or an implied context of that.

Parth Maske

@Mitch Alright. I chose B as I didn

didn't know that ever=always*

terdon

@MattE.Эллен Hardly. That would mean there is but one perfectionist in the world and Bates is he.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch well, it works without, but it sounds weird

Mitch

@ParthMaske It's 'educated' speech. Sounds a bit old-fashioned.

Matt E. Эллен

@terdon grammar and semantics. it's fine grammatically

terdon

15:12

Ah, true.

Færd

Screw Exam English.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен and that was my point. many word choices could be interpreted to be grammatical with all the right contextual clues, but there is a better and more natural choice which is C.

Matt E. Эллен

Matt, ever the dilettante, teaches English to passers by

Parth Maske

If I encountered a similar question, how should I approach it?

Mitch

@Færd Yeah, it's test driven English, obscure points.

Matt E. Эллен

15:14

@Mitch yes

Mitch

Matt, who is the dilettante, pilfers that designation from many worthy opponents.

purloins?

swipes?

Færd

In order to answer this one, you should know 1) what particle (a or the) should be used there, and 2) what ever means.

Mitch

@ParthMaske pick the best one, not just the first plausibly correct one.

Færd

@Mitch Not just because of that.

Mitch

You know what the worst thing is?

Shoveling snow, because it's going to melt eventually, and you're just moving frozen water around just for the moment.

I think similar reasoning about making your bed, you're just going to mess it up again the next night.

I'll have to consult my local forensic analyst to confirm.

Færd

15:17

I don't make my bed, because I don't sleep in one.

Mitch

Chuck Norris can have your cake and eat it, too.

@Færd Very Zen

Færd

But in the past if people hadn't shovel the snow on their roofs it would've destroyed their houses.

@Mitch No, I'm pretty comfortable on the carpet.

Mitch

@Færd That's how roof pitch evolved in lazy non-roof shoveling societies. Higher pitched rooves, lazier people.

Which end do you shovel it off of, the front or the back? Or the sides?

Færd

It's been more than 20 years since the last time I shoveled snow.

The front, in the yard, I think. There was a house behind us.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен lmnop is an entertaining book

Matt E. Эллен

15:29

σοθνδσ ψραζυ

sounds crazy

that's some heavy rot13

Færd

Just occurred to me: why didn't anyone object to the use of the in ever the perfectionist (C), but everyone was uncomfortable with the in who is the perfectionist (B)?

34 mins ago, by Parth Maske

Matt E. Эллен

I wasn't uncomfortable with it. I forgot it was there, and wanted it

Færd

So you think B works just as well?

Matt E. Эллен

I agree that C is more natural. I said B is grammatical

terdon

@Færd Because it is needed there. You need an article. It could be the or a but one is needed. Ever the perfectionist is common and natural. Like always the asshole.

Færd

15:40

Ever a perfectionist could do as well.

What I meant was that the definite article means the same in both phrases.

If it's unnatural in one, why is it natural in the other?

Always the asshole means the only asshole on the face of the earth, or the asshole among a known group.

B can have either one of these interpretations too. So can C.

terdon

@Færd No. I guess it's idiomatic, but always/ever the something is very common.

Færd

I suppose you're right about that the use of the is (more) idiomatic after that ever.

But ever a something works perfectly fine too, I think.

So there should be a difference in meaning between a and the after ever, which is what I established above.

terdon

@Færd It does indeed. I would guess, however, that the is more common. There is actually a subtle difference in meaning. I don't know if I can put it into words though.

Færd

Never mind. The fact that C is idiomatically more probable than B is enough to choose C.

Matt E. Эллен

Google Ngrams suggests both "ever a" and "ever the" are converging on insignificance...

terdon

15:54

@MattE.Эллен Hmm. But the the variant was clearly more popular in its heyday.

Matt E. Эллен

yes

Færd

It's hard to deduce nuances of meaning from such graphs.

Matt E. Эллен

oh, yes, nothing about meaning, just about usage

Færd

OK.

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16:07

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user227867

17:29

@Tonepoet Well, I buy all my books new, as you know. =) Or at least "like new" on Amazon Marketplace.

user227867

Hello @MattE.Эллен welcome home.

Matt E. Эллен

hi

Justyna Nogala

"To the extent that a computer fools interrogators, it can be said to think."

user227867

Grammatical.

Justyna Nogala

it can be said to think ? how do you understnad this sentence?

"it is not sure"?

user227867

17:35

You can say that the computer thinks.

Justyna Nogala

ahhh

ok

;)

Now I see the relation. (computer- it).

Shafizadeh

17:49

when someone give you the link of a image, you say him: "I will take a look at it" .. what about music? "I will take a hear to it" is right?

Matt E. Эллен

@Shafizadeh "I will have a listen to it"

Shafizadeh

ah I see, thx

Cerberus

18:40

@Alenanno It is an old-fashioned form of showed.

Meanwhile, I'm listening to Mina.

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MetaEd

19:03

@Cerberus Don't do it. Mina is under the influence of the Master.

Cerberus

@MetaEd Qui?

Cerberus

19:16

I think she is too old to be in a cult?

Mitch

19:46

@Cerberus I think it'd be age appropriate to lead a cult. Or be the unintended chosen messiah. "Water, wine, whatever". I think somebody just mixed up the jugs of water with the wine.

Cerberus

19:59

You mean her song Acqua e Sale?

user227867

20:24

I am not used to seeing a president in this chat.

user227867

I think I should buy some chocolate from the Dutchman I saw soon.

user227867

@Cerberus How is your life these days?

user227867

@sumelic I see that you have not only changed your pic but also your username to remove the schwa.

sumelic

21:01

@WillHunting Ah, yes. It was temporary, and I thought I might as well take it out at the same time as changing the profile picture.

Mitch

@Cerberus I youtube'd it and found... not what I was expecting. Like a cross between Dead Kennedy's and Manita de Plata. But slower.

@WillHunting How did you know I was president?

Cerberus

@WillHunting Nothing's changed, you?

@Mitch Yeah I didn't say I liked the song...

Mitch

@Cerberus Yeah. I've had to explain when recommending a song that it might be good It's not necessarily my thing and the recommendation is for ...

for example:

Kylie Minogue - Come Into My World

►

Mitch

21:24

That's not a terrible song.

Johan Larsson

21:40

is this the first song you have posted here?

first I've seen I think

it is not terrible

Cerberus

22:12

A very Swedish compliment.

Johan Larsson

22:27

:)

what is the dutch way?

Cerberus

22:50

A grunt.

Or silence.

Johan Larsson

23:09

a grunt of silence

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