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Robusto

16:01

Public Enemy-Contract On The World Love Jam

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That's what got Trump elected.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist okay after reading on wikipedia and thinking about the problem, I think it's this: using the electoral college method, each state has as much say in the presidential election as it has say in congress. But for states with large slave populations, a popular vote for president would mean that most people in the state weren't counted - thus southern states would be less influential in the vote because they had fewer voters.

Robusto

Fear of a Black Planet

Fear of a Black Planet is the third studio album by American hip hop group Public Enemy, released on April 10, 1990, by Def Jam Recordings and Columbia Records. It was produced by the group's production team The Bomb Squad, who sought to expand on the dense, sample-layered sound of Public Enemy's previous album, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (1988). Having fulfilled their initial creative ambitions with that album, Public Enemy pursued a different direction and aspired to create what the group's lead rapper Chuck D called "a deep, complex album". Their songwriting was partly inspired...

RegDwigнt

@Robusto see, and already today that video is not available in my country!

Coincidence? I think not!

Robusto

That's why I provided the Wikipedia link.

tchrist

@Færd Imagine there is no counter-balancing influence against flagrant aggression and territorial encroachments, not excepting land-grabs even, leading to the principals getting so heated that any number of horrific events could occur, such as (insert country name) actually nuking (insert other-country city name).

RegDwigнt

16:03

@Robusto Oh just you wait, he'll make that one unavailable as well.

He will hide it behind a Mexican paywall.

We'll never see it, and Mexicans will pay for it.

Robusto

Trouble is, this one is also coming:

Fear of a Blank Planet

Fear of a Blank Planet is the ninth studio album by British progressive rock band Porcupine Tree and their best selling before 2009's The Incident. Released by Roadrunner on 16 April 2007 in the UK and rest of the Europe, 24 April 2007 in the United States through Atlantic, 25 April 2007 in Japan on WHD and 1 May 2007 in Canada by WEA. Steven Wilson has mentioned that the album's title is a direct reference to the 1990 Public Enemy album, Fear of a Black Planet; while the former was about race issues, the latter is about coming to terms with 21st century technology. The album was written in Tel...

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The problem with letting slaves vote is the risk that they might vote for their own interests not those of their masters.

See also, Convict Suffrage across the States.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto I for one welcome our new porcupine overlords.

Robusto

Because the right wing Republicans don't believe in climate change, or evolution, or reason, or logic, or consequences for greedy, fat-faced self-aggrandizement.

RegDwigнt

Family Guy - Republican Town Song

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Robusto

16:06

I gotta go. That bike ain't gonna ride itself. Laterz.

RegDwigнt

CU

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist Right, which is why slaves couldn't vote. But IIRC the slave-owning states felt that their large population meant they deserved more representation in congress (i.e. more overall influence) despite the fact that there were so many slaves.

tchrist

shudders

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But if the just used popular vote for pres, they'd have less influence.

Thus, the electoral college, which gave them as much influence in the presidential election as they had in congress.

tchrist

Nothing ever changes.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:08

It's a bit better than it was. Still needs work though.

tchrist

The broad trends look damningly similar.

RegDwigнt

Well to be fair it's only been like half a century since black people started to get accepted in the US.

Give it a couple more centuries and they might do away with the electoral college. But right now it's still a very new development.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I doubt they'll get rid of it. Too many states are controlled by republicans who've gerrymandered and disenfranchised voters to an enormous degree to maintain state control

tchrist

Alabama for example has like tenfold the per capita incarceration rate that Maine has.

It becomes even more wicked when you apply racial correlation.

Færd

@tchrist And the hilarious turn-of-events for the Donald will be that he'll end up nuking the wrong people, and trigger a chaos in this already unstable world.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:11

@Færd Sadly, he isn't responsible for actually aiming the nukes. Cuz otherwise, hilarity would ensue.

RegDwigнt

He isn't responsible for jack shit, which was Cerberus's original, and most apt, point.

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 At least he should know better than to drop it on Gaza strip in order to help Israel. Imagine if that happens! Haha.

RegDwigнt

And everyone knows that the "code" for the nukes is just 1111 precisely so no dumbshit can fuck up entering it correctly when them Russian nukes are already approaching.

Færd

I'm really making myself cry with all this fake laughing.

I should go take a rest from it. Bye.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Well, he does command the armies and direct the use of nukes.

tchrist

16:17

@Færd It’s the second-order affects nobody is talking about which I fear. If America gives the world the idea that it will no longer participate in the world, crazies may feel this gives them an open path to nuking whomever they hate at the time. North Korea nuking Seoul or Tokyo, Pakistan nuking India and India nuking Pakistan, Iran nuking Tel Aviv and Israel responding by nuking Baghdad and Mecca, Russia annexing the Baltics and what remains of Ukraine and Georgia, et cetera ad infernum.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 he does a lot of things on paper. But in reality all he'll do is do all things on Twitter.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So according to wikipedia, the electoral college is mostly bound to vote for whomever won the vote. So it's unlikely or impossible that the college could revolt and vote in someone other than Trump.

@RegDwigнt One can only hope.

tchrist

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 *whoever, but yeah

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 well unlike most people I actually learn from history, so I am calling it here and now. You will not have a nuclear war. You will get the Eight-Year Twitter War, though.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Just because we don't have a nuclear war doesn't mean that some non-US tinpot nutjob won't nuke something.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:22

@RegDwigнt The eight-year twitter war, and the 40 years of assholes overturning social progress via the supreme court.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Oh you'll definitely get a dozen of those Mohammeds nuking marathons and Juans being rapists. But nothing out of the ordinary. As usual if anything you should be more worried about the thousands of children you will sacrifice to the 2nd Amendment.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt You think this doesn't bother me? Have you forgotten what county I live in?

RegDwigнt

@tchrist I know a couple people from Boulder now, not just you.

You shall be fine.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 hey no hating on the US, didn't Canada outlaw slavery only in 2010?

I know that Britain did, so I assume that's about when you got the memo first.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt The point is that Boulder's electorate is one whose average education level differs most dramatically with that of the national average, and therefore we vote differently.

RegDwigнt

Yes. I keep hearing that even when I play fucken World of Tanks because you people just won't shut up about being special. And then still somehow get ruled by Trump.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:28

@RegDwigнt I don't know about that, but whatever work Canada still has to do is orthogonal to the work needed in the US, and the damage that this thin-skinned bullying cheeto and his congress and sentate will cause.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't live in the US, so as far my personal life is concerned I expect Trump to end up being responsible for less damage than Rob Ford, but for significantly more entertainment.

Mitch

What is un assisted suicide? You have to strangle yourself with your own bare hands? That's hard core.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch if you're Donald Trump, it's finally having a single thought, and dying from the sudden electrical shock.

Do give that man ideas!

Mitch

I am conflicted now about Cheetos.

I was conflicted before too

RegDwigнt

I might now buy some Cheetos on my way home, because that's how much I love Trump.

Mitch

16:34

The scientists who create and develop Cheetos are effing geniuses.

RegDwigнt

And then I will eat Cheetos and watch Twitter and play Chopin. For eight years on end. This is gonna be epic.

Mitch

They could cure cancer yesterday.

But instead they direct their intellects to making a superlative thing better.

RegDwigнt

It could use more cheese.

And a cheese crust.

Filled with cheese.

Mitch

It's like Cracktos.

Both ruin your teeth.

@RegDwigнt and that's what they do. Genius.

RegDwigнt

What ruins your teeth is the starch.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

16:36

@RegDwigнt Rob Ford wasn't responsible for all that much damage because he was so clueless at wielding what little power he had. He was just embarrassing.

Mitch

They could construct a unfied theory of physics.

RegDwigнt

Which is why potatoes, rice, and noodles are way worse for your teeth than a bottle of coke every day.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 precisely! You are taking the words out of my mouth.

Honestly, let usl meet again in four years and I will quote it right back at you.

And everyone else will quote it right back at everyone else, getting Trump elected for a second time.

Mitch

But instead they added hot-blast-spice to make something envelope-pushing gastronomy into balloon-exploding taste excellence.

RegDwigнt

Everything is better with cheese. Even politics.

Mitch

I think Cherry-Vanilla Coke and Sriracha-Blast Cheetos would melt your teeth. And you'd be happy to do it.

RegDwigнt

16:39

Hey I live in a country with good healthcare.

So fuck you all and gimme all the cheetos.

Mitch

Have Sarah Palin and Vlad Putin hook up yet? I'd like to see that.

RegDwigнt

They did on Brazzers.

Only $1 for a one-day preview.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Pfft... you call that living?

RegDwigнt

@Mitch um, you call having all the cheetos in the world not living?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Is that the knock-off Cheetos brand?

RegDwigнt

16:41

No, that's Twistys.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt All the guys they pull out of the Cheetos storage silo accidents? They're smiling because of all the noun attribute string sequence lists

suməlic

@RegDwigнt: Hmm, I don't understand why my flag on this comment was declined: english.stackexchange.com/questions/254187/… Was it wrong for me to use a moderator note rather than the "obsolete" flag? I was worried that if I used the latter, it wouldn't be clear why the comment was obsolete.

RegDwigнt

No idea, I didn't handle it, but if it's obsolete I will delete it.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Oh. Those are just wrong. Black licorice or strawberry, they're just extruded petroleum slag by-products with a chemically augmented aroma.

RegDwigнt

So. Like 100% of the food in the US?

suməlic

16:44

@RegDwigнt Thanks. I won't worry about it then

RegDwigнt

I don't even know how many mods we have now or who they are.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Soylent is entirely made from laboratory-supply companies manufacturing in Shenzhen.

@RegDwigнt You know exactly who they are, but maybe not that they're mods.

Or the other way around.

RegDwigнt

I only know and care that this site is now under jurisdiction of Donald Trump so I will say this much: cheetos are the best and if you didn't vote Trump you will be given one more chance, and it will be your last.

Mitch

I am pandering to the cheeto-loving bloc. Which should be everybody who has a mouth. (sorry non-mouth-havers)

Tonepoet

@RegDwigнt Actually, Donald Trump actually isn't the Cheeto candidate: Chester Cheetah is.

Mitch

16:48

You can't eat cheetos and breath through your mouth at the same time.

Fact of life

or death. all that cheeto dust will give you orange lung disease

RegDwigнt

trumpdonald.org

Still up and running.

Mitch

mesothelioh my god the spice loaded cheetos are like a bomb going off in my face.

my keyboard is sprinkled with gold dust

Tonepoet

Donald Trump is probably more like President Shinra from Final Fantasy VII.

Mitch

rather rust gold

I've got my Antarctican passport, a goretex/kevlar snow coat, and a years supply of freeze-dried reconstitutable Cheeto mix.

That's all I need

and a polar bear gun

RegDwigнt

@Tonepoet hey no spoilers, I'm still only one hour into that game.

terdon

16:53

@RegDwigнt Oh wow, I hadn't seen that. That's wonderfully calming.

Mitch

because when the cheetos run out and I start hallucinating polar bears, I'll need to give them guns to defend me against the cheeto zombies.

RegDwigнt

@terdon you're welcome. Use that calmness to get you through the night. And the next 2920 nights after it.

Mitch

@terdon I still haven't. I gouged out my own eyes with my own thumbs then I removed my thumbs so I couldn't undo it

THat's why I keep messing up the space bar.

@RegDwigнt 2922. You forgot leap days

RegDwigнt

@Mitch if you're gonna be all anal about it, it's way more than that because he's still not been elected, much less in office. Me, I wanted to give people hope, so I went with the smaller number.

I am kind like that.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Yeah. It's pretty obvious.

RegDwigнt

16:59

Inorite. And now as a reward for myself Ima commute.

Mitch

haha. me too. Webinar is over. Sigh of relief. Later suckers!!!

terdon

How would you say posh in AmE?

user227867

Hi.

user227867

It is 11/11 here in Antarctica.

Færd

@tchrist Exactly. That's as possible as people think it's not.

user227867

17:10

@Tonepoet I finished the whole box of hot chocolate. It's not that nice so I won't get any more.

Færd

Except that, presumably, Iran doesn't have nukes yet.

Tonepoet

@JasperLoy Okay.

user227867

@Tonepoet Did you know that OK came before okay?

Tonepoet

@JasperLoy Yes, although I prefer a word to malformed initials.

terdon

Why isn't OK a word?

user227867

17:15

I feel very calm today. I have not felt this calm for ten years. Something is happening.

user227867

DJ came before deejay, and MC came before emcee.

user227867

I can't believe people actually buy thousand-dollar shoes.

Tonepoet

@terdon Initials are never words in my opinion: They lack a set signification of their own until defined. The United Soccer Association is just as valid of a use of the U.S.A. as the United States of America in my opinion, although context would dictate it is the latter which is more commonly meant.

terdon

But if a collection of letters has been used for decades or centuries and has its own entry in dictionaries, that would seem to make it a word in my opinion. So, for example, USA only has one meaning but U. S. A. has many.

In any case, the origins of OK are not that clear and it might not even be an acronym.

What does your Webster's say about it? Does it have an entry?

Tonepoet

If I can assume the easily searchable resources are complete, Noah Webster's dictionary does not have an entry, nor does the Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia or Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary.

The most likely version of events is that it represents Oll Korrect. That's the story Oxford uses if I recall correctly.

Helmar

17:29

@Mitch no polar bears down there ;)

Tonepoet

@terdon Also, despite the fact that, I very much insist upon the periods, whether or not somebody uses the full stops usually doesn't usually change whether they mean it to be an abbreviation or not. My Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary indicates that much in the addenda. However, it is worth note that many abbreviatons become words as they become pronounceable separately from their constituent letters.

So LASER and L.A.S.E.R. are initials, but laser is an acronym, or rather a word formed from the edges from other words. (Less commonly, words like Motel, which is short for Motor Hotel, are also considered acronyms)

Granted, sometimes acronyms formed from initials are written in uppercase too but I haven't seen any guidance on how to distinguish those from initials that are spelled out.

user227867

18:07

Hmm, I think Kit must be busy with NaNoWriMo.

terdon

@Tonepoet OK, but if laser is a word why isn't OK one?

Mitch

1 hour ago, by Mitch

because when the cheetos run out and I start hallucinating polar bears, I'll need to give them guns to defend me against the cheeto zombies.

@terdon You don't. It's in the constitution

@terdon You could say posh, but it sounds a little too posh. 'fancy' is probably more idiomatic AmE. Wait...give a sentence with 'posh' in it, then we'd be better able to recommend something different if needed.

@JasperLoy Wow, that's cold. Here it is 50C.

@JasperLoy I'd buy em if they were under a hundred.

@terdon The wordness of initialisms is problematic.

unless it's an acronym and then it's totally a word.

Mitch

18:39

@terdon Okie-dokie is a word. sort of.

hokey-pokey isn't a word. It's a way of life

Tonepoet

@terdon I think that's difficult to adequately explain in this particular case because both the abbreviation and the word have the same pronunciation. It's the difference between the letters representing words, and the transcribed sound directly representing a concept.

Since learning the etymological history, I've also been contemplating if I should just use alright instead of okay, but old habits die hard...

tchrist

Hell’s Hottest Circles

Hell’s Deepest Circles

MetaEd

18:55

waits for Hell's Half Acre

tchrist

Hell’s WTFest Circles

Mitch

That wasn't that hot

@MetaEd Where is the UFP unification day avatar?

MetaEd

@Mitch Oooooh.

Mitch

That's 61 Cygni.

Ooh! I can see Epsilon Eridani from here!

And there's Barnyard's star.

haha cuz they look like they came from a barnyard!

There's Vulcan and Andor and Buh- buh- buh- Bajora

Monad

19:15

Are there very many closed-class words in English, if not, where can I find a list of all such words?

Helmar

19:37

@Monad I guess wiki will have lists on most of those.

MetaEd

@Mitch Is there a date for that?

Mitch

@Monad google for 'closed class lists English'

or lists of pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions

Monad

@Mitch I did earlier and didn't find any good and complete and opposed to exemplary resource. I'm just going category by category and sub-category by sub-category.

Are Conjunctive Adverbs closed-class?

as opposed to* /\

Mitch

@Monad what's a conjunctive adverb?

Monad

According to some website, these are instances:
however
nevertheless
nonetheless
still
conversely
instead
otherwise
rather

Mitch

19:53

that looks closed.

Monad

They are

Mitch

you can arbitrarily specify a category to make it finite.

Also, words can often fit many parts of speech, and have different meanings.

Monad

I'm making a title case converter that leaves all closed-class words/phrases as lower case, for that I'm trying to get a list of all closed-class words etc..

Mitch

and the categories can be spcified arbitrarily

Monad

ok

Mitch

19:55

so 'conversely' is a straight adverb

in a pattern that is infinite

but the other words are fairly limited

@Monad OK. Even pronouns?

Monad

yes

Mitch

OK.

If your google search didn't find anything good ... well, your search is probably as good as anybody's

Monad

Though, now that I've gotten a, somewhat better, grasp of the scope that closed-class words encompass, I think I'm better off without the converter. It was meant to be a part of my project, but something as big isn't really necessary.

Yeah...

Mitch

wikipedia isn't perfect.

but it's a start

Monad

Whenever Wikipedia hesitates to or doesn't insist that their list(s) are complete I browse through a lot of websites for said list(s).

Johan Larsson

20:00

bbc.com/news/technology-37925033

Mitch

Frankly, hardcopy books aren't going to be exhaustive either. Some of those words can be obscure.

And obscure words tend not to appear in titles

Johan Larsson

what is an obscure word?

Monad

If I told you what project I wanted this title converter for, you'd think I'm insane to need something so irrelevant. :D

Mitch

@JohanLarsson rare?

@Monad Unless you're about to... you know... do that thing where... oh my god, you're a monster!

Monad

whet? O.o

what thing?

in any case, I'm making a small text-based retro tic-tac-toe game in Python prog. lang.

and to ensure that each title for "play guides" given to functions would be in title-case

:D

Mitch

20:09

@MetaEd Sorry, no day of year. Founded in the year 2161.

@Monad Yeah. A Title Case Converter for a Finite Set of Strings Sounds like Overkill.

Monad

D:

Færd

20:25

My idea about part (of something) being countable or not is that if you consider the part as somehow interwoven and inseparable from the rest, or if it's part of a continues substance, then it's uncountable:

> Part of the day she was out of the house.

> Your love is part of me now.

But if it's not, or you choose to conceive it as separate from the rest, then it's countable:

> A part of the machine has broken.

Færd

20:43

Well, that wasn't so much an idea as a guess.

Mitch

you can have many parts of the day. morning and afternoon and evening, even if the part itself consists of something that is uncountable. "Parts of the water were murky."

Helmar

21:17

You could count the murk molecules.

The whole concept of something being uncountable is an offense to Galilei anyways.

suməlic

@Færd That sounds more-or-less right to me. But it's difficult to apply this to any particular example with certainty.

Cerberus

21:45

@Robusto True, true. But the new medical insurance thing is fairly new: things might be set back a couple of years, but that may be part of the ebb and flow of politics.

Eventually it will be reintroduced, after Trump's term.

Or it will take him so long to stop it that it won't happen until his term is up.

The Democrats may regain control of one house or the other: when are the next parliamentary elections?

Mitch

@Helmar the whole concept of something being uncountable is central to Cantor's development of set theory.

@Cerberus two years (all representatives terms are two years; senators 6years)

Cerberus

You're saying so many confusing things!

You're suggesting that senators don't represent the people?

looks it up

Oh, I see this week's elections were for both houses.

The entire lower house was elected, but only a minority of senatorial seats were up.

And the full term of the entire lower house is only two years!

That's...short.

Mitch

22:04

Yes. 'Representative' is also used for a member of the lower house (a term not used in the US) = the House of Representatives

Helmar

More importantly to confuse people who think all the Rep. Some Person are Republicans ;)

Mitch

Reps are population proportional. And not experienced usually and more likely to be stupid.

Helmar

Yeah totally different from the new guy on top^^

Mitch

Senators are more senior and mature and responsible. But exactly 2 per state no matter the population.

There's no restriction on where any of these people come from .. uh born in the US..and age restrictions

Helmar

No age limitation at all?

Mitch

22:08

The speaker of the house and other 'important' figures in the Congress are elected within (i.e. Not popular vote)

Cerberus

@Mitch This line is confusing / paradoxical.

Mitch

@Helmar 25 for HR, 30 for senate, 35 for pres

@Cerberus ok

Helmar

@Mitch Damn, was just going for a toddler joke :D

Cerberus

'Representative is used ... not used ...

Helmar

They don't say lower house

Cerberus

22:10

Oh, well, neither do we, but it's just the general name.

We say first and second chamber.

The first chamber is sometimes called the senate.

The second chamber is always called the Second Chamber.

Helmar

Actually I don't think lower house is used anywhere outside the crumbling rest of the Empire

Mitch

US: Senate, House of Representatives

Called Senator, Representative

Gerrymandering happens at Representative districts (one member of House of Representative per district)

Cerberus

@Helmar I never intended it as an official title, but as the general concept, which is common.

Lower house

A lower house is one of two chambers of a bicameral legislature, the other chamber being the upper house. Despite its official position "below" the upper house, in many legislatures worldwide, the lower house has come to wield more power. A legislature composed of only one house is described as unicameral. == Common attributes == In comparison with the upper house, lower houses frequently display certain characteristics: Powers In a parliamentary system: Much more power, usually based on restrictions against the upper house. Able to override the upper house in some ways. Can vote a motion of no...

Mitch

That popular vote goes other way from total district votes is a class voter Representative paradox

Cerberus

I'm afraid I can't parse that...

Mitch

22:15

US patterned vaguely after House of Lords/house of Commons

ab2

Some time ago, there was an article in the Washington Post about the 5 or so stupidest members of the House of Representatives. I don't remember who "won", but I do remember one of the questions he asked at a hearing on nuclear reactor safety. He asked why it wasn't possible to build a fence around a nuclear reactor to make it safe. The person testifying (Norman Rasmussen) answered "we do that; we call it the containment."

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus not even with ahk?

Cerberus

Hah!

Mitch

@Cerberus sorry, will reatate

Cerberus

AHK is not very smart. It's just omnipotent. Like the Christian God?

@Mitch I know about the winner-take-all system and the districts.

And gerrymandering.

@ab2 Hah!

Helmar

22:16

@ab2 I am voting for the guy who brought the snow ball into congress to prove there's no global warming^^

Mitch

@Cerberus what is was trying to say is the this pres election exhibited the same external properties: popular vote one direction, #of winning states/electoral college votes the other.

So it is almost like implicitly the state populations gerrymandered themselves

Helmar

@Mitch No it's because the founding fathers didn't really trusted the people.

Mitch

@Helmar I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't addressing why at all, just describing a phenomenon

Any nutcase that's popular can be voted in

But you have to pass a lot of hurdles to get into senate. Not as much president.

Obviously

Helmar

Sure, the hurdles have to be equivalent to the resulting power ;)

Mitch

I keep telling people that the US pres isn't as powerful as they think.

But then I start to think... powerful enough

quietly sobs in corner

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Helmar

22:27

60 days of war before asking parliament.

With the option to define it not war. Kosovo

Mitch

I'm...Europe had decided to do it but didn't execute. US pres just did it.

But your point is taken. US pres can kill a bunch of people w/o congress

Helmar

Well there were European air forces as well but that was not the point

Mitch

So...

How about that Rogue One? That scene where the Ewok suicide bombs the imperial storm trooper cadet graduation.

Helmar

Suicide Ewoks?

Mitch

Totally

Helmar

22:39

That will not be great for Disney's toy sales

Mitch

Aw damn...there's already a porn site for that

Helmar

Ewok suicide porn?

Mitch

Yeah. It's not that good. Bad lighting.

/rimshot

"Wicket's Secret Exploding Garden"

Cerberus

23:04

@Mitch Gerrymandering plays upon the effect of having winner-take-all districts, which the states are; but isn't gerrymandering the changing of borders?

tchrist

Shattering Ewoks on Titan - QI - Series 9 - Episode 7 - BBC Two

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Mitch

@Cerberus yes. That's why I am being profound by showing the similarity, as though the state borders themselves were changed on purpose (but they weren't).

Cerberus

23:23

Right, right.

Perhaps California could cede some territory to neighbouring Republican states.

A Gerrymandering that they cannot refuse!

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